GLEANER, Massey Ferguson, CHALLENGER Combines Harvesting 

Grew up on Gleaner. Started riding in an F, then we got an L2 and now dad is on his second R72. Very underrated machines in my opinion.

Doesn’t matter what I’am watching as soon as one of your videos come up I go to it,thanks Jason for all your hard work by getting these videos out.😎

Our family has run Massey combines since our first combine in 1949. We've had a MH 21, MH 27, MH 90 Special, MH Super 92, MF Super 92, four MF 750's, MF 760, five MF 860's, MF 8570, MF 9690, MF 9795, and a MF 9560.

If I may add some detail - the Massey Harris 20 is generally regarded as the progenitor of all self propelled combines, and around 925 units were built between 1938 and 1941 The MH model 20 was a big and costly machine to produce, and as such, not every farmer could afford one of them. It had galvanised tinwork from the get go. The MH model 21 was introduced in 1941, a machine of about 2/3rds the size of the prior model, and was cheaper to produce. It was hugely popular, and utlised an open ended table fitted with canvas belts, to feed the crop into the centre of the table from each end, being mounted transversely. Another, narrower canvas belt, this time arranged along the axis of the machine, fed the cut crop into the combine. The MH model 21A (introduced 1943) was similar in most respects to its predecessor, but had a table with closed ends and an auger that fed the cut crop to the centre of the table, like a lot of modern combines, but the auger had fixed fingers, not the retractable type, found on modern machines. Another difference between MH 21 and 21A combines, relates to the Crop Elevator - on the MH 21, the Header pivots about the lower end of the Crop Elevator, whilst the Crop Elevator itself was rigidly fixed to the rest of the combine framework. As such, the MH 21 Header didn't provide much under header clearance even in the fully raised position - essentially it just tipped back on its pivot brackets, which were attached to the front of the two main chassis base rails of the combine. The MH 21A by comparison, had a header that was rigidly attached to the Crop Elevator, which in this instance, pivoted about a point approximately level with the Operators Platform, and gave much greater clearance when raised - indeed gateways could be cleared without always having to take the Header off the machine. The MH 21 used a series of 3 large coil springs to assist the lifting of its header, via a large hand operated wheel, whereas the MH 21A Header was lifted by an electric motor, which was optional on its predecessor model. Both MH 21 & MH 21As were used during the infamous 1944 Harvest Brigade, an operation which gave rise to the Custom Cutter operations of the modern day. The vintage combine in red, near the start of the video, is a Massey Harris 21A machine, not a Clipper, as alluded to in the comnentary. The MH Clipper combine was actually a trailled combine for the most part, but a self propelled version was later developed, that unusually, featured only three wheels - two tractive members at the front, as per now accepted convention, but only a single steering tyre at the rear of the unit . This arrangement may have provided a small turning circle, but the design was unstable, like tricycle tractors, hence the move the later pretty much universally adopted 4 wheel layout. Hope this helps.

Loved the history lesson Jason. I like the looks of the Massey combines along with Case IH 7150 retro look combines. Thanks for sharing these machines with us.

Always great to see AGCO equipment and especially to see Jake Ziegler's 9700.

Awesome machines,thanks for the history lesson.

Jason, Nice history lesson on AGCO harvesting equipment! I remember our first Massey combine with no cab! Before that we had the AC combine you pulled behind the tractor. Keep up the good work sir!

The gleaner is very nice👍😉 a silver combine at work is just very cool to see😁👍

I am always fascinated on how you turned something into many kind of dishes. They are so mouth watering 🤤! And it's an honor to have you visit our channel, we can discuss more about our experiences in harvesting and building farms.

Great video as always. Liked hearing about the history of these great brands.

We use a gleaner s96 combine. We’ve been using them since the 1970’s. It’s the most underrated combine in my opinion.

Love these videos Jason. Love to see the hard working farmers doing great things to feed our country and a lot of the world. Keep up these great videos.

What a roller coaster of product lines through those years, know wonder I had lost track of it!!!

Great Video, Glad to see AGCO Brands.

Great video. I can see the design similarities to my old MF 8570 hiding under all that sheet metal. That machine platform ran for close to 40 years, pretty impressive!

The newer Massey combines are some of the best looking machines in my opinion

Best channel on RU-vid, as far as agriculture, much appreciated , always well done, great narraration, wealth of information & excellent camera work . MUCH APPRECIATED ✌️

We bought a Massey 9790 last year with 1800 rotor hrs on it and it has a 35ft 974 macdon header. We really enjoy running it,the worst thing about the machine is how easily mice get into the cabin 😠. Thanks for your videos Jason. David in South Australia 👍

Maybe Massey will make a come back!!🤞. We run a 750 and 860 Massey!!

Thanks so much for the history. Well aware of the 80’s ag economy, had to give up the farming gig and lost track of some of the companies. Used mostly Oliver back in the day which went away with the transition to White silver, which then became absorbed by Agco, etc. While I knew about the White combine technology going to MF, I had no idea the platform lasted that long! At a Farm Progress show, maybe 20 years ago, I saw a really good chart on poster board that showed the major ag equipment companies on a 20th century timeline, who they purchased or were purchased by. I’ve found it on line in the past, need to look that up again. Anyhow, there was only one straight line through the period in the whole bunch, like ‘em or not it was JD.

Thank you for your videos my combine experience MF 510,JI Case 960, MF 750, Gleaner N7, New Holland TR 70, and MF 860 then I left the farm. Harvest is my favourite time of farm life in Alberta, Canada but I cannot enjoy Canada winters.

We combine corn with a 1981 gleaner L2 and soybeans with a 1981 gleaner m2. You will be able to see us in action in a week or so if you tune into Knapp Farms on RU-vid. We were planning on starting this weekend but we’ve had a lot of rain this week here in northwest Indiana

Thank you for going over the AGCO history. This history with the combines truly cleared things up for me.

0:45 This guy is doing all the threshing with the reel

Very interesting! Thank you!👍

Just retired an R60 gleaner and replaced it with an 8780xp massey

Another Great Video. Love learning all of the history of AGCO. Thank you.

I love these video with deep corporate and production history! Hope to see more in the future. Keep up the good work.

Ran a Massey 8780 1998 model,. Upgraded 4 years ago to a 9895. Simple machine that really performs. You can see roots in these machines dating back to the 9700

Great history and information, thanks!

An excellent explanation of the market development over the years - thanks Jason, nobody knows more about than you!

@ 0.55 minutes that was some shattering reel speed, wtf?

I grew up with Gleaner combines my daddy and granddaddy had a Gleaner F awesome combine then my daddy bought a Gleaner L now that machine was a man 4 wheel drive Mudhog rear axle. Before I was born my granddaddy bought his first Gleaner A then later on they had 2 Gleaner F’s and a C2. I’m a Gleaner combine man I really love those big silver combines.

Good information about the history.

Grain cart damn near got into him there at very end of the video! So much the combine finally swerved over lol. Good video Jason thank you.

Hello! Gleaner, The Cleaner is the best value/cost relation combine.

That was very interesting; Sometimes I forget how bad the farm economy was back in the 80's.

As an old farm boy who graduated high school in '60, we farmed with a 1930 Case C and Ferguson TO 20 with a later upgrade to TO 30. Brother and I bought a 1936 JD A ~1958, adding it to the fleet on our farm. Still love seeing that old stuff working and would love to see videos showing them doing so.

Really enjoy your material - thanks

I like it when you do these style videos. From a farmer up in Ontario.

Fantastic video. Congrats on such a well worded talk on the linear heritage of these combines. You could teach a class in college on this to ag students

Ground speed on that A86 was pretty impressive

Very informative video,and I like seeing Ferguson in the field

We run a R65 with 30 ft flex head and a 6 row corn head. Hopefully the next one will be one of those S-series

Love that black fendt, real dart vader,

I run 3 Challenger 680b. Simplicity and reliability can't be beat. The White HYD drive rotor has some down side but it slick to use. Can plug the rotor and clear it without getting out of the seat.

Thanks!

I was able to glean quite a bit of interesting information from your video!

I was wondering when this footage was going to come out and I totally missed it.

Great. Well done.

Brian's Farm video just purchased a brand new Gleaner sweet looking machine

Always enjoy your videos Jason. GO BTP!!🙂💪💪

Thanks for making these videos. The flag unit was 👍

Interesting lineage. I love Gleaners, mostly because of the utilitarian and raw looking galvanized sheet metal. But I’ll still enjoy the modern ones, even with the ugly plastic panels.

That sassy Massy at the end is AWESOME!!

I worked at a machine shop in Independence Missouri from 92 to 95. About 3 blocks from the Gleaner plant. I watched alot of brand new ones being shipped out.

I grew up farming rice in Mississippi and east Arkansas and the last Gleaner I saw in person harvesting rice was an L3 in 1986. They tried the transverse rotary machines in rice when they were first introduced and they just didn’t perform well at all. When CaseIH introduced the axial flow machines they took over and dominated the rice combine market until Deere introduced their version of an axial machine. I’ve only ever seen one Gleaner transverse rotor machine with a conventional header in rice and that one was in a RU-vid video about rice farming in Australia. It had a Honeybee draper header. The modern day Gmeaners with higher horsepower engines are apparently capable in a rice field but they obviously aren’t popular.

i had no idea Gleaner had a different rotor so thank you

wow, I have never seen a physical combine but the way you have explained everything. i now know the history of the AGCO brand.

Thank you. Very good.

Be cool to see the gleaner combines from its early start to how they have improved in the grain going through and not so much loss with the improvements through the yrs as with Massey Ferguson case ih john deere claas

Thank you for the awesome video. Very sad to see the Massey combines get the axe. I have owned and operated a Massey 8590 and a Gleaner A75/Massey 9790.

Great video, very informative thanks Jason

Great video. I’m liken those combines. Once again I learned very much from you.

Dealer in IL. Is still selling new Massey Ferguson combines.

We never see Challenger combines here, or tractors for that matter. Mainly JD and some Case/IH, and actually quite a few older Gleaners still around. I wish AGCO would have kept the orange tractors and dumped the red since the machines are basically the same thing and there's enough red around already. It would have made it clear even from a distance that it was an AGCO out in a field rather than a MF or Case/IH which would be better advertising on their part. Seems it would have been a wise move, at least for sales in the USA.

You do a nice job explaining the musical chairs of ag machinery.

Great vídeo.

My family has always ran Gleaner. Grandparents started out with a K

Keep em coming Jason awesome video

You're very knowledgeable and I like that.

great video!!! good talking to you at RANTOUL love my gleaner combines and my AC tractors!!! l be watchin!!!!!

You're the man,Jason.

Nice video!

Great video very interesting what agco has done.

Have always run MF combines for 3Generations and am disappointed that they have stopped making a combine

That was really interesting learning about them and I would imagine that next year when gleaner Turns 100 Iwas going to be an awesome episode

I love running my R-62! Plenty of capacity for my operation and low hours as I only use it about 50 hours a year.

More gleaners please 😊

No better grain sample than a gleaner!

Nice video! I'm from Brazil and here we utilized MF 9690 ATR II 2011 model. This machine is equal to gleaner a65 and challenger 660 in USA

The Americans flag 9560 combine is ours it’s my grandpas but I drive it while I’m not in school! It’s a very nice machine

great video

Hi Jason, always enjoy your videos regardless of brand or machine type. Always well filmed and even better in recent times with the addition of drone footage. Also, your commentary makes for an interesting history lesson - Agco Corp in this instance. If I may correct one small error in your commentary for this particular video footage, the Massey Harris Clipper combine was not the model used on the Harvest Brigade rund but was in fact the Massey Harris 21 (and MH 21A combine models) combine. It was introduced in late 1941, after it was found that its predecessor, the Massey Harris 20 proved to be too big, heavy and expensive to manufacture to appeal to a potentially wider market. Only about 900 or so of this model were produced from 1938 to 1941. This combine sported wheels by French & Hecht. The MH 20 combine is generally recognised as the first commercially successful self propelled combine. The smaller MH 21 combine was cheaper and therefore more widely sold and as mentioned earlier, gained notoriety via the famous Harvest Brigade. Differences between the MH 21 and MH 21A - the former had canvas belts on the header, like a binder, that fed the crop to the centre of the table, where another canvas belt, orientated along the axis of the machine, fed the crop into the combine. The MH 21 combine had open ends on its table, its crop elevator was a fixed position element - the header merely pivoted about the lower rear part of the header itself. The MH 21A on the other hand, had enclosed ends on its table, and had an auger that fed the crop to the centre of the table for entry into the threshing mechanism. The central fingers did not retract unlike more modern combines, where the do. Another difference was the fact that the crop elevator was rigidly attached to the rear face of the header but it did pivot about its rear end at a point approximately level with the Operator Platform, thereby enabling greater lift range and hence clearance when entering a field, avoiding gate posts for example. As with the preceeding MH 21 model, the MH 21A could have its table removed for the purpose of transport over longer distances, as was usually the case with Custom Cutters, which the Harvest Brigade incidentally, was the progenitor. The above header and crop elevator details apart, the two machines were pretty much identical in all other respects, both sporting the round grain bin to the left of the combine main body, and situated directly behind the Operator Platform. The only other significant point of detail changes on both machines was with regard to the style of the front and rear wheel hubs which would take too long to detail here.

I love AGCO branded combines. I had no idea that Challenger quit making combines.

I don’t own a farm yet it breaks my heart to see the end of Massey Ferguson combines. Anyways thanks for all your hard work on these videos Jason we all appreciate it

I love this channel!

Under unloading boost the Ideal 9 is 647 hp and the 10 is 790 hp. same as the Claas 8900. But it takes more than HP to make a great combine.. Watch a bunch of Mike Mitchell's video's from Faith Hope Farm, I think he compiled a list of over 80 complaint"s about the 7 Ideal 9"s they had until they traded for JD X9"s. But what do you expect when you buy first year machines from any manufacturer? I think Agco has something like over 400 updates for the early Ideals. And even then, there are still some glaring errors you can see on the newer models by just walking around the machines. Bean counters at Agco hard at work trying to cheapen things by making some things substandard instead of better than the preceding MF 9505 model. That said, overall they are a much higher capacity combine in at least dry conditions, in high moisture corn the rear rotors aren't aggressive enough to separate the corn from the stalks, leaves and husks as well as other brands. Works great in dry straw conditions because it leaves the straw in bale able condition like a walker machine. Rear rotors are the same as the MF Delta 9380 in Europe which is a Hybrid like Claas rotor machines. As far as Gleaner transverse machines being so wonderful, why do you think Gleaner put their paint and decals on MF machines for about 8 years? Feeder house's and cylinders that plug easy in tough condition's with no rotor reverser like Massey had going back to the late 80's. Which ment poor sales in the south because they raise a lot of heavy rice with green stems and if it goes down like wheat can, you want a MF 9565 with a heavy duty feeder house and a rotor that reverse's with the front beater, something the 2011 and previous years did not have.

Great video. We currently run a MF 9690 but are looking at a 9545.

And the Fendt 9460R combine !

I would love to see more combines harvesting soybeans

me and my cousin bought a new white 8600 it was a good machine i believe it was in 1976

The Massey Harris 21 was the machine that started the Harvest Brigade it's the machine you started your video with. The Massey Harris Clipper was a small combine introduced in the early 50's.

We are running a Gleaner R52 in Missouri

Great video The MF axial was also available in Europe in Laverda livery and of course there was a Gleaner in MF livery in Asia(?)

Hi Jason, great video as always. We run a 2013 Massey 9540 and love it. Pretty disappointed with AGCO for killing off a great machine

Every time I see a newer Gleaner combine, I immediately hear Brian Brown of Brian's Farming Videos, forcefully say "Power Ladder"

When my dad was a kid my grandpa had a gleaner f2

I never knew that Cat had combines. I Live in Peoria,IL tha " former" home of Caterpillar.