She deserved waaaaay better. She was overlooked by everyone. I hated how much she had to advocate for herself and her talents. I also hated that she did not get the role of Maria. After seeing the 2021 version of West Side Story, it convinces me that her casting would not be a big deal. While I loved Rachel’s performance, I wanted to see what Mercedes would have done with it.
Think about who wrote the show, three white men. And instead of hiring people of color as writers to help, nope, let’s just use her in the most cliche ways possible. Amber get a damn broadway show or tv show? She deserves it.
I will never get tired of her line of the band being the true artists in the choir room. They needed more love and I am still trying to figure out how to write fan fiction just around the band and side characters.
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 No because, that’s one of my favorite sue rants too. In passing she acknowledged how Will ignored the black dancer (Matt) into oblivion. It takes me out every time😂😂
@Gabrielle Duplessis The best Sue rant I always think of is when she talks about getting Schue a cat and waiting for him to fall in love with it and then sneaking into his house to.....punch him in the face 😂
She might have been the best person on the show. One of the very few that didn't do anything horrible or act horribly to anyone else. It's been a little while since I've watched the show though
As an Autistic person, I always interpreted Britney as Autistic. She thinks in a very black and white way, can often speak in monotone, doesn't always understand what's okay to say in the moment and is incredibly intellegent with numbers despite not always being the most socially intellegent. It's never brought up because she's classically pretty and popular, autism often goes Undiagnosed in girls, especially those who are able to excel socially and have special interests that are deemed socially acceptable for girls ie. Cheerleading or singing.
I had never thought of it that way, but that would make a lot of sense, perhaps at one point they may have intended, or at least wrote and acted in a way for her character to be autistic, but never did anything about it. Either that or they just wrote her to be the 'dumb blonde' character
Absolutely agree! Even the awkwardness and misunderstandings related to sexuality make sense considering how people often treat undiagnosed neurodivergent girls, especially autistic girls.
oh shit now that i think about it with that lens, the things i felt as though i had in common with her make so much more sense. i find this very compelling, and its nice to have a sweeter (pun intended) and more sincere representation of my neurotype than sugar motta
marley is honestly a real depiction of a highschooler. I loved her sm, because of how relatable she was. She was the least problematic character in this show, the only reason she’s “boring”.
She's not boring, she's realistic. Not everybody in high school is a mean cheerleader or a dumb bully jock. People like Marley is the common type of high schooler. Nerdy, shy, sweet, girl next door image.
@@MertayEfeoglu I literally said that lmaooo. I’m a marley myself, and I made the “boring” joke because people like to complain that she’s “boring” as a way to say she’s “unlikable” You clearly didn’t read my comment, and that’s okay.
@@TrentvsTheWorld I read your comment, i just added. There's too many people who dislikes Marley and calls her boring. That's why i liked your take and commented.
my problem with Marley as a character comes from that though, realistic is not always fun to watch, realistic is often boring. im glad you felt seen by her character though
On Mercedes: First she's a hardworking character who knows what she wants, then they... contradict her completely and then say she's lazy?? COME ON, she deserved to be number one
out of all the micro aggressions that one was the most egregious 😭 those writers looked at the best technical and powerhouse vocalist who fought for her spotlight and called her…lazy. interesting
They hinted at Mercedes' perceived laziness in season 2 when she told Jesse that she doesn't need to practice her singing because she feels her music (which is the antithesis of Rachel, who we are shown practicing singing and dancing on multiple occasions), and at the beginning of season 3 when she said she wasn't going to do booty camp because she saw herself as a park and bark, where she just stands in the middle of the stage while everyone else dances and sings around her.
I love this breakdown so much and I completely agree with your rant on Mercedes don’t even apologise , I hated how they pretended that she was lazy when she was able to keep up with the dancing in the show and had an amazing stage presence and voice . They just used her as the stereotypical black girl and didn’t build on her character after that don’t even get me started on how they threw away her friendship with Quinn after they lived together . I also hated how the writers treated Quinn they would write development for her and when they needed drama they would regress her character . The first season of glee was honestly the best season to me , I know a lot of people say it’s the second season which I also love and how they built on Santana but the first season in my opinion had this charm to it that they were just kids trying to build this club where they could express themselves. It’s true what they say nobody hates glee more than glee fans istg😂
Season 1 and Season 2 are my favorite seasons. It balances, some days it’s 1 other days it’s 2 hahah. For one , I look at season 1 as great tv show with great writing and it’s also a Glee that would never really come back. Season 2 for me is great teen drama, and it’s what all the other seasons (except season 6) would be modeled after - but season 2 did it best. And yeah it’s so odd that Mercedes was in the delivery room with Quinn yet they barley interacted later on 🙄😂
@@TheVhsTapeYT This💯💯💯I 100% agree with you season 1 is my favourite in terms of writing and season 2 is my other favourite in terms of it being a teen drama even though they write some characters terribly that season I will forever love how they fleshed out Santana in that season . Other than that I’m still annoyed as to how they threw away the friendship with mercedes and Quinn and barely developed Mercedes character . I feel like the reason why I didn’t like 3rd season as much is because when I first watched I didn’t like the fact that the narrative was focused around the music which just made it confusing to focus on , this narrative shift honestly started to me anyways in the power of Madonna
The more I think about glee, the more I wanted Emma as the glee teacher. Her episode where she substituted for Will at sectionals made me question why she was not. She stood up for them. She motivated them and encouraged them. In another episode, she is the one who told Will that he overlooked many members in Glee which led to more of them participating in competitions. Trebltones should have had more performances and their mashup of I will Survive and Survivor was a waste of their talents. There were so many songs that fit their iconic ranges better. I had a bog crush on Rory and he needed more screen time. Sugar had potential. She did become nicer and I loved her loyalty to the Glee club. I always wanted Blaine to be bisexual. His kiss with Rachel was not just because he was drunk. He looked like he enjoyed that kiss. I pictured him maybe not liking Rachel romantically, but she was still a bi awakening for him. I also shipped him with Tina. Their chemistry and friendship was iconic to me. People say they pictured Sam as bi and I could see why, but now after hearing how Sam was originally supposed to be Kurt’s love interest, it is making come up with more head cannons. To be honest, I did not see the issue with him doing a duet with Kurt. Girls can duet without being seen as gay. The guys did duets that weren’t romantic. Why was it gay for Sam and Kurt to do one. It felt hypocritical to me. Oh great, I am picturing a Heartstopper story with them now. Don’t at me.
I agree with most of this except for the Blaine and Tina thing. She was genuinely creepy towards him and didn't respect his boundaries or his relationship. In fact, it's a plot point (that was played as a joke) that she "vaper raped" him. Basically she assaulted him while he was asleep. It really grossed me out.
The issue was the glee guys were still new to accepting being seen as uncool, and they knew their homophobic bullies would see it as gay to sing a duet with a gay dude. They said so in the episode
@@leahdavis9434 but they contradicted it many times throughout the show which is my original argument. Also the double standards of the girls could sing duets without being gay and straight guys can sing “straight” duets with each other, but the one time (at this point in the show) Kurt wanted to duet with someone, it was gay. That is the issue I had with it.
Finally someone speaking out how on they did Mercedes DIRTY! Also I’m so tired of the sassy loud black girl stereotype. This stereotype negatively affects black women in real life. Mercedes Jones deserved better.
Blaine was a catalyst for Kurt’s growth and it’s upsetting that the writers never bothered to give Blaine a catalyst for growth. I mean they gave him layers which they could’ve delved so well into but they didn’t. Also in my opinion, Blaine was one of the most realistic characters especially after the seasons went on. I understand why people think he’s whiny and annoying but I thought his character always had a strength behind it and a kind of curiosity that should’ve been handled better. He had so much potential too, with the family drama and the depression (mentioned god knows how many times) and all his other shit. But they didn’t explore him because deep down it was Blaine’s purpose to make Kurt look better and to be this superficial happy character. Which is a bummer.
Thank you for standing up for Mercedes!!! I felt like they leaned into black stereotypes WAY too much. Thankfully that didn't overshadow her gifts as a vocalist!! Some of my favourite Mercedes songs are: "Jump" "Disco Inferno" "Rumour Has It/Someone Like You" "Spotlight" "How Will I Know" "You Make Me Feel Like A (Natural Woman)" "Aint No Way" "Shake It Out" "TRY A LITTLE TENDERNESS" "Human Nature" "I'll Stand By You
I remember hearing Michael Buckley explain during one of his gleecaps that in “The Quarterback” Santana breaking down and running out of the classroom was Naya losing it during filming it.
This also explains why out of all people Mike and Will worried the most here, two characters she's not too close with, but I think Naya was close with Harry and Matthew.
tbh out of quinn's romantic relationships, I loved her with sam alone. Yeah, they were kind of boring compared to her other relationships, but I liked how mundane they were (I mean painting coasters as a date? I love that) and I wished they were given issues that challenged quinn's personality as well as sam's in their relationship rather than cheating that seemed to be a constant in the glee club. On the other hand, I did love samcedes in season 3, tho i am a die hard quinn and sam shipper
Yes I remember Chris not wanting to go down the most predictable path. Especially since early season Kurt was known for his fashion sense so they kind of went back in that direction.
The way you described Mercedes is what I thought the entire show. Thank you!!! The stereotype of the ghetto loud black girl needs to stop. We are people just like everybody else. Give us more substance.
I remember being a 13 year old American Idol stan when Glee's pilot was CONSTANTLY being plugged on commercial breaks. I was totally captivated by it (it felt like "high school musical but juicier" lol) but my parents wouldn't let me watch it so i had to sneakily watch clips on youtube for the first couple seasons before I got a laptop and could access Netflix. 😆 This video was fantastic, this show really was a cultural touchstone for its time.
blaine's character getting ruined felt like something they did to keep him with kurt. kurt's character development feels like one of if not the most natural character development on the show, so they just kept changing blaine so they could keep klaine together. in season 2 he was confident with himself and helping kurt get to the same point, but once he did and kept gaining more and more confidence they started making blaine more and more insecure, possibly to keep their original dynamic? i dont know, either way, i hate it season 2 blaine was my favourite character and im so mad that they didnt keep him at dalton or at least send him back when they did that goofy ahh superhero episode
A couple of thoughts here: Thanks for breaking down the writing. Even though the first two seasons were cohesive, you could sometimes feel tiny shifts between episodes, and now it's connecting that "rib" had different writing styles. The seasons break down. Wow. Just Wow. People always just say "this season was good, or this season was bad" but never go into depth when they're breaking down the show. You really have an eye for detail. (I also enjoyed your Gilmore girls breakdown, especially the seasons part). I didn't notice how the color palette changed. Season 1 was so real and grainy; I don't understand why when shows get bigger budgets, they decide to make everything look so fake and plasticky. Last thing thank you for talking about the band, that part really made me chuckle. The Matt part too. BRAVA BRAVA. I'd love to see you cover One Tree Hill and older 2000s and 90's shows too.
YESSS finally seeing someone who hates beistes transition. like... she already had a trans narrative!!! being perceived as masculine when all she wanted was someone to treat her as a woman... thats a transfem narrative, even though it wasnt intentional. if anything, her being made a trans man just felt transphobic lmao, like ohhh the masculine womans actually a man⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️ then what was her introductory storyline😩
1:37:37 another will crime people don’t talk about enough: singing ‘fix you’ by coldplay to his mentally unwell fiancé who’s in the middle of an episode after a very triggering event. like bro she’s not a broken doll you can fix with your showtunes, she’s a person with issues that need to be treated by a professional. carl supremacy for life.
I absolutely love your breakdown, especially when you mention your experience in the Glee fandom and the audience reactions while it was airing. I first watched Glee in 2018, so I never got to experience it live and I didn't enter the fandom until 2020. Something I've noticed in the fandom is the difference in hate that season 4 gets depending on the viewer. A lot of the people I've spoken with who didn't like season four were people who watched the show live and didn't enjoy the sudden changes and fell off the show during the week to week airings. On the other hand, a lot of the people I know who love season four didn't watch it live and instead binged it. Obviously this doesn't apply to everybody on both sides, but I think the hate of it could have been affected by the fact that people were having to tune in weekly to watch these obvious changes rather than the other group who can just get to the next episode and not have to be annoyed that they waited a whole week for an episode they found underwhelming. I'm not sure if this is coherent or not but hopefully it makes sense. Also loved your Marley segment, I never know if somebody is going to like her to not. I know the fandom used to hate her, but at least as far as Glee twitter goes it seems like people like her for the most part.
I‘m only 25min into the video but I gotta say upfront thank you so much for actually doing a deep dive with background info and real ANALYSIS instead of just recapping each episode with no further details for 5 hrs and calling it a day
I actually just started rewatching Glee yesterday and I got recommended this video. This video is absolutely amazing and you did an amazing job breaking down all the intricacies of the show and the characters. Despite it flaws and how I don't really like the later seasons, I do love Glee and it'll always hold a special place in my heart. It really was just such a pivotal part of my growing up and I don't think it can ever be repeated, it was literally lightning in a bottle.
So happy youtube decided to recommend this video to me! I love how clear everything was and I definitely agree with you about most things. I’m glad to see someone mentioning Coach Beiste’s transition as it has also always striked me as weird. As you said their whole character development in the earlier seasons revolved around how much they struggled with people not viewing them as a woman because they didn’t present in a traditionally feminine way so having them transition really felt like backtracking. Also happy to hear someone mention how old the crackhouse debate is, like we get it one person in a show about horrible people did something horrible can we please move on 😭. Anyways, this was a lovely watch, can’t wait to check out your other videos :)
I don’t think Blaine necessarily SHOULD have been bi, but I wish they’d at least continued that conversation. It’s fine for someone to be unsure of your sexuality. Just because Blaine didn’t end up liking girls, doesn’t mean that Kurt’s biphobic comments were okay, and I feel like they could have showed that message, they just… didn’t.
I'm with ya!! The fact that Kurt was actually right about Blaine in that specific instance really served to kinda justify the biphobia in the show and honestly it kinda bothers me
And it was so out of character for Kurt imo, they needed to explore that more to show he said that out of hurt, that it wasn't right or ok, and it wasn't at all how Kurt actually felt.
I also feel like Kurt was completely out of character in that episode… well, maybe not *entirely* out of character, since I do think it’s something he might say when lashing out; but I do think him not really apologizing for it or getting called out was an issue. Kurt seems like someone who should be MOST accepting of all different sexualities due to how much stigma he faced himself, and it bothers me that his character wasn’t really awarded a chance to showcase that in this episode (they needed the drama) or to have a small arc where he could learn more about bisexuality with Blaine. For context, I’m bi myself, and Kurt is my absolute favorite character from the show. This episode kinda hurt me though. I really wish it were handled better and actually did his character (and Blaine’s) justice :(
This was a beautiful love letter to a show that impacted my life in more ways I care to admit, you are completely right in saying no one loves/hates Glee more than Gleeks. Thank you for all the time and energy this must’ve taken. This was fantastic work.
I used to think season 6 was the worst season simply cuz I didn’t care for the new kids, but they really brought the show back to what the seasons after 1 always should’ve been. Rachel got humbled and her success was more deserving. And Sue especially was a highlight, that Klaine stuff was perfect
I absolutely love this, and this video deserves all the likes. I still stand by what I said in your Tina video in that her character should have grown into being a fashion designer and that her arc should have revolved around her realizing that even though she isn't the star her role is important. I mean, wouldn't that be such a great message, that you can find a new dream after realizing your first one may not work out for you? I'm a card carrying adult and I'm still trying to figure out my dream lol Also, Blaine in my opinion eventually felt like the writer's self insert, and once you look through that lense you can't unsee it
@@0b13F4st3 the reason I thought of it was the literal thinking she displayed when answering the "what is the capital of Ohio?" question. I feel like theres probably more examples.
She's definitely gotta be some kinda neurodivergent. Generally she's not portrayed as dumb so much as kinda oblivious and not picking up on stuff so I feel like it fits
They did Mercedes so wrong throughout this show. She was super talented and honestly the strongest female vocalist next to Rachel. She did have some of the best singing moments 🙌🏽🙌🏽
in my opinion (as an autistic person) brittney shows a lot of autistic traits even if they didn’t mean to do that (i’m pretty sure they didn’t) like she’s very socially unaware, gullible, easily manipulated, blunt, no filter, often has a flat affect, gives off airhead vibes but is a mathematical genius (many autistic ppl tend to have an affinity to numbers/math) like,,, idk it makes sense to me 😭 it’s sad that ppl make autistic traits often a punchline tho without calling it autism
@@TheVhsTapeYT yeah i mean i don’t think they were writing her that way but it makes sense. she also said things seriously but ppl always thought it was funny, which is a very common autistic experience lol
Just started watching this video but the Glee pilot feels like a standalone little movie. In fact, every Ryan Murphy tv pilot feels that way, I watched many of his pilots back to back a few years ago and they all had this cinematic feel to them
Honestly it does make me wonder whether Ryan Murphy would be better suited as a film director. He’s very good at big flashy ideas and creating immersive fictional worlds, but long term consistency in characters and story telling is his weakness
As someone who comes from a small town the 2 Asian characters on the show having the same last name is pretty realistic. I just finished coaching swim club in a small town and I had 3 Asian athletes, who had no relation to each other, with the same last name. That same thing also happened a lot throughout my high school years.
This was SUCH an excellent Deep Dive!! You really did the show Justice and delved into what made it such a cultural touchstone. You highlighted both aspects that made it great as well as some of the less flattering parts.
The biggest problem for me was that the pilot made me excited for a television show about a showchoir, and more than a decade later, I'm still waiting for it. I don't think almost anyone involved in showchoir (or even who watched their friends in showchoir) could look at _Glee_ and say that *any* part of that experience was captured on the show.
Marley's character always rubbed me the wrong way. I remember when she was introduced, I thought she felt a lot like a self-insert character. The shy, nice, innocent girl who is amazingly talented and gets a lot of attention from guys. Even a love triangle! It felt very wattpad. I'm sure, at some point, some character describes her as being "different." It was very out of place for a show like glee.
i could not like her after a mean girl sewed her costume smaller 1 or 2 inches every single day to make her think she was getting fat. and she believed it. i mean, all of her other clothes fit perfect. her thing was that she was ''poor''. that makes her 'different.'
My personal favorite season is 4 and it’s funny for me to hear people be like “Everything after 3 was horrid” I honestly thought that season 4 brought back a level of chaos seasons 2 and 3 didn’t have. It felt much more satirical. Even through it’s ridiculously horrid romance plots and etc it had chaos. Season 4 was so frankly unneeded that it’s great. I didn’t love the new characters but like the chaos of even like Tinas quotes are so funny. I think it’s the fact they were scrambling so hard which makes me like s4. Also in my opinion, season four had the best covers of the entire show (maybe it’s because I love Blaine and Santana).
I feel like one of my only issues with Emma is just the way OCD is portrayed, which really rubs me the wrong way. The best example I can remember of her exhibiting an OCD symptom that wasn't the stereotype of cleaning was when she mentioned dating some guy and then 2 weeks later Versace was dead. That kind of thinking of feeling like you were responsible for a tragedy or that you should've done something to stop is something people with OCD do feel
Your rant about Mercedes was so true! Don’t apologize! But also I’m a firm believer in the idea that the writers (not just RIB) underutilized a lot of the things they wrote into the show. For example, Blaine and the familial/general mental health issues, Beistes issues (instead just making Beiste trans), Kurt having “ocd” types of issues, etc etc
This was such a perfect breakdown of both the characters and the seasons of the show!! I was a huge Gleek at the time, but season 4 and then Cory's passing made me step away from the show. I came back for season 6 because it was the final one, and I loved how it was a back to basics season. This made me so nostalgic that now I have to watch the pilot again. Congrats on such an amazing video!!
This video just proves to me once again that season 6 had the most underrated (and possibly best behind Santana, Quinn, and Britney for me) characters from the entire series. 🤣 I'm sorry but Jane, Spencer, Myron, the twins Mason and Madison were all so good. Better than most of the newer characters we got from season 3, 4 and 5. My history with Glee is I watched all the way up to around season 4 when it was airing but the storylines were a mess and chased me away unfortunately. So when I actually decided to finish this show after it had left the air I witnessed season 6 and it is probably a top tier season for me and I really wish we had gotten more time with those newer characters.
Hard agree on Sam. Like, they had whole storyline about his homelessness and having to wirk at a strip club to suolort his family, showing that he had to grow up way faster than the other members. Then season 4 he suddenly became the most childish of any of them. Not to mention it feels like any idiot could've seen a storyline popping up from his bidy image issues and modeling being linked to the aforementioned stripping. Also, honestly while Samcedes was great I actually kind of wish they'd given him an Tina a shot.
i thought how it was funny in the "wheels" episode how they didnt have money for the handicap bus but they did have money for like 10 wheelchairs for all of them lmao
Girrrrrrl you said a mouthful about Mercedes and i really wanna add on cause you hit the nail on the head but now I've gotten lazy lol so i might just have to comment later on.
Yeah, he didn’t even have to date the girls on the show. They could have just acknowledged the possibility of him being bisexual and without it being some phase or whatever
I don't think it's fair to say that the problematic stories in glee (Santana's outing, transphobia towards Unique, Finn's and Blaine's cheating, etc) are negatives to the show's writing. People are tranphobic, people out people as a way of getting revenge, people cheat in hypocritical ways, specially teens who are figuring out how relationships work do all these stuff. The show never depicted these actions as positive, so I don't get why so many people criticize the show for this. It was a good and fair representation of real world interactions, no one is a good person because they always do the right thing, people are good because they allow themselves to learn and grow. Anyway, that's the only issue I had with your analysis, I loved how specific you were with the cinematography and setlists for the seasons, not everyone talks about the impact these things have.
Yes, and only used him for diversity. Same could be said for mike, but then later on, he actually became more of a member of the show. I still don’t understand why matt, was the only glee member, who is practically an extra
I also wanted to add that i’m glad you have a way better analysis of this show then most, you didn’t just bash it and get on every little detail, you took it for what it was and didn’t blow it out of proportion. I personally love seasons 1-3 despite their flaws and I on and off enjoy 4-6. Overall this is a great video!
I’m all for trans representation, but I absolutely hated the trans story line with Shannon. It came out of nowhere and made no sense for her character. I feel like the only reason they did it was because they had a good storyline with Unique and wanted to recreate that.
i loved that Rachel was the main female character it is why I watched it. Never got how people didn't get/accept that, it was right there in the pilot. There are leads and supporting characters that is nothing new.
It's easy for Brittany for me. It's that overall innocence she displays and she always keeps hope. Where there is dark story's, Brittany was the one Ray of light.
Ohhh noooo, just the little part talking about Sue's relationship with her sister and why she she then adored Becky just did something to me and the waterworks began. It's a touching part of the show that I've always appreciated and can never get through a rewatch without crying. Especially when her sister dies.
Ok but low-key whenever the singing in the rain/ umbrella mashuo comes up in my palylist I always get confused because to me Gwyneth sounds really similar to Chris Colfer in terms of singing and it always catches me off guard when I remember that's not Kurt it's Miss holiday
I used to really admire Lea Michele, but after hearing about how she bullied several cast members on the set makes me lose the respect that I had for her. And while she is a gifted singer, everyone would constantly go on about Rachel, as though she was the only talented cast member.
The Warblers were probably the most overrated rivals, specifically the season 2 version. They were hyped up to be big competition for the New Directions but the only good competition song they sang in season 2 was Raise Your Glass.
Yeah, they’re weren’t convincing threats at all, not after Vocal Adrenaline’s Bohemian Rhapsody 😂😭. I will say though, their covers ate, like how do a bunch of prep school kids eat up a destiny’s child cover ? 💯😂👌
Carol and Burt deserve the world and are the best characters on the show. As an nonbinary person I also hate beists transition I didn’t know when they switched from film to digital but that makes SO MUCH SENSE IT LOOKS PLASTICY
I’m going to stay salty about Kurt’s NYADA rejection for the way the storyline was treated. I respect Colfer not wanting Kurt go a traditional theater route…but in that case, why have Kurt audition at all? Why have that as such an integral part of his season 3 arc? Furthermore, why have him give such an incredible audition with glowing praise only to be rejected? There are so many better ways this storyline could have been written and it wasn’t. I have a lot more qualms with it than that, I’m working on my own Glee-search project, but it’s frustrating to hand-wave criticism with “oh well the actor wanted it this way.” The way I see it, the storyline of him getting rejected isn’t the problem. It’s how the storyline was handled. That being said, your Mercedes “rant” is completely correct and you should not apologize for it. I also love how you actually addressed Puck taking advantage of (date raping) Quinn. That does not get brought up enough and it’s incredibly refreshing to hear someone state that what it is.
My guess is the storyline was handled the way it was because at the end of the day it’s all for entertainment. If TV shows resolved things in a linear and logical way, it would cut tv and film material down to 15% 😂. That being said, I do agree with you that it wasn’t handled the best (typical glee), but my mentioning it was more trying to be fair about the show because people don’t get how Rachel got in and Kurt didn’t (this was not a case of Rachel favoritism as it usually is)- RIB was notorious for making last minute changes (Heather Morrison only found out she wasn’t graduating when filming the last episode and was actually very upset about it) it may very well be that Kurt was set to get in but Chris convinced them otherwise last minute. Also him thing rejected was supposed to show that it’s not the end of it all because you got a no. He didn’t let his NYADA rejection stop him from going to New York and pursuing something he was equally inspired by. I’ve also heard from numerous theater kids that even though Kurt’s performance was stellar, his high school career as a whole wouldn’t balance well with other extremely competitive kids. He might have not gotten booted because of his performance but there may have another equally talented student like Kurt who had more to show for himself and took Kurt’s place. Idk though, I try to make sense of most of Glee just for my own piece of mind 😂😂😂😭😭😭
@@TheVhsTapeYT oh, that’s entirely understandable!! I hope I didn’t come off like I was attacking you and I apologize if that is how I came off. I’m just forever frustrated at the last-minute decisions and clumsy storytelling (as you said, typical Glee lol). Especially with everything the show was trying to accomplish, I just think we as viewers deserve better.
@@pennyraehawkins9788 oh nooo, not at all!! I totally appreciate and get your comment. As much as I love Glee, we all have aspects that infuriate us 😭😭 yours are more than valid !!!!
Wow your analysis on Mercedes proves to me that Rachel was only the “star” because she was white in a predominately white group with a white teacher. Clownery. Lea Michele is 4/10ths of the singer Amber Riley is, what was up with the show runners confronting that inequality (west side story Maria confrontation) only to do absolutely nothing about it??? Like they let her lead in another group sure but then when she came back to Glee club - it was right back to Rachel being #1. I’m sorry could they not have maybe - idk - SHARED the spotlight?? Or just let Mercedes take the wheel during competition? The nerve of the showrunners asserting that Mercedes was lazy w the dance practice and that’s why she couldn’t lead…. As if Rachel was really dancing like that up on stage 😭🤣
Re coach bieste THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. That is the SAME ARGUMENT I've been making SINCE that story line. Shannon was the ONLY masculine woman. Even sue was extremely feminine, Shannon was the only masculine woman. I loved her and loved her character after still for the same reason as you (stability) but that was doing her specifically dirty.
THANK YOU !!! I also hated that they made Shannon transition. She spent so many of the earlier seasons talking about how on the inside she's just a girl and wishes people would see that and treat her like one. all for them to randomly make her transition into a man. it was so lazy and performative!!!
"Blaine should have been bisexual" unlocked a memory of me saying the exact same thing and cringing with all the biphobia in that short storyline. I get that they didn't want to have Rachel be unhinged and ruin Klaine but my god, Blaine could 've been written as bi and still draw hard lines choosing Kurt, damn. It felt so wrong to watch back then as a bi girl.
as a trans man the beiste trans storyline makes my blood BOILLLLLL and im so glad you talked about how dumb it was too. literally contradicts EVERYTHING THAT BEISTE GOES THROUGH TO LOVE AND ACCEPT HERSELF THE WAY SHE IS. she WANTS to be percieved as a woman and it feels like they did a complete 180 with writing her as ftm!!!!
