grip reduction is the dumbest thing that has come out of the gun modding industry/community. a grip is designed to fill your hand. barrels don't need to be more than 3.5 inches to achieve optimal velocity. ideally, you want the largest grip possible with the shortest barrel possible, hence why the glock 19x and glock 45 became so popular.
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Its your opinion and own two hands you can speak of. What works for you may not work for others. 1911s has some of the smallest and most comfortable grips, yet a long barrel. So don't consider your likes and opinion above others. We all are different. The car that one may drive may not be liked by many who prefer to be behind the wheels of something else more comfortable to them. That's the way it is and not one size fit all.
@@cagneybillingsley2165 first of all dumbshit, since you’re too short bus to understand what grip reduction does it allows people with smaller hands to get more of a “purchase” or grip to wrap your hand around it completely so you can hold it firmly, the Glock hump is fucking pointless, I love glocks but the little hump can limit a lot of people from getting a really good grip which is the most important part of shooting, if you can’t get a comfortable grip you’re just not going to be very accurate, if Glock was about “perfection” they would’ve done away with the shitty hump in the first place, so grip reduction for glocks is probably a really important aspect for a lot of people the carry glocks. Unless you have hands like Lenny Magill getting the perfect or optimal grip on a Glock is not really plausible, if I could change 1 thing about glocks it would be straight grips no hump
Very nifty product! After picking up a 43X MOS yesterday, I was considering getting rid of my 19 Gen 3 because of that hump, which is so unladylike. Using your kit seems to be a better solution than filling the void with epoxy. Once I get a holster and night sights for the 43x, it’ll be time to start modifying the 19, and hopefully I’ll fall back in love with it. Thanks for serving, Semper Fi!
Just completed cutting and gluing, waiting for the morning to shape. Used soft jaws and gentle pressure in vice, could see the piece fully set as I nudged it GENTLY with the vice, at about 17deg angle with trigger pin hole highest. My flag is at full mast. Watch the video, relax, and trust in Micah.
I just finished glueing on the backstrap on my old Gen 3 Glock 19. Your kit made this process so simple and fast. I'm looking forward to finishing it up with restippling the grip! Thank you! Next up will be reducing the grip on the 44.
Bought the kit and 3 back straps and so far done my glock 17 gen 5 Mos then my glock 26 gen 5 then my glock 19 gen 5 Mos then bought the ot defense deluxe stippling kit and I'm very happy with my work and I thought I messed up my glock 19 but took to much off but just filled it with the polymer off my piece of the original I cut off glued it and came out perfect and look awesome after I stippled it
Awesome stuff. Just wanted to express my thanks for all you've come up with. Your accessories and contraptions really put refinement into some of handgun ownership's kinks.
2023, I'm light years begin, great products with modularity, and tangible purchase. I could really use this. I've used SUGRU as an adhesive and bond. It dries to a vulcanized rubber feel.
I think i found the solution!pouring over all the vids,epoxy ect.,this looks like my answer.wispering..i have small hands and i HATE the hump.really want to enjoy my gen 5 19 and this is the ticket.saving up now.thank you for all us smaller hands guys
I just came to your website to buy a Nub Mod and bumped into this. I was cringing during the video but to be honest, Im impressed with the final product. Kuddos!
I order one a while back. Love it. Have done three 19s. I emailed you wondering if you would be willing to create an insert with a swell on the top part.
Man I just realized this will remove the ability to use a magwell since the grip shape is changing. Love magwells but hate the grip angle, I am gonna give it a shot on at least one of mine this weekend
I have become fixated on getting this device. I detest the hump so I picked up a LoneWolf frame. The GA is fantastic. Has anyone reshaped the piece that they cut off? There is limited info out there
Reshaping is possible, couple of gunsmiths I know of use the jig and reshape the factory piece. It would be a similar process to the 'candle grip reduction' method, essentially heating it up enough to flatten it before putting it back in place.
I've bought the Shadow Systems MR918 frame, and LWD g19 frame and a Nomad 9 and spent almost 500 dollars. Those 3 frames are my absolute favorites. With this jig I could reshape and modify my other 7 frames !!!!
Excellent video. We exchanged some emails over the weekend. I just ordered the kit and two Glock Gen 3, Model 26 back straps. Also ordered three different hacksaw blades from Amazon, including the one designed for composite bikes. I’ll try them out late this week when they come in, practice on some extra back straps and give you some feedback.
I have a Glock 44 that came with the 4 different back straps. I want to do the grip reduction while using the smaller (M) strap with the extended dovetail. Which flat backstrap of yours would work with that combo, the Gen 4-5 backstrap?
Possible yes, just if you cut wrong or too deep, you may make an un-fixable issue. The jig simplifies the process and makes really hard to mis-cut (you'd have to cut the metal) and makes it repeatable for doing multiple frames.
@@OTDefense which is what makes it aim high, correct? I feel I’m breaking over more with glocks, except 48 and 42 which have very little junk in the trunk at all, to line front sight up. I’d like to have this done on a few glocks, especially the 26. Great video sir1
Has anyone re-shaped their cutout to fit? I have an OD frame and would like to keep the original Glock OD. Just don't have a good idea on how to proceed. Any ideas would be great.
Lots of folks do that, have to heat up the cut off part, shape it and let it cool. Maybe repeat if needed, then epoxy it into place, by filling the entire hole. Don't let any get up into the trigger housing area-
If the frame matches up to a real Glock, yes. If not a perfect match it may take some extra work. I've done two LaserAmmo training pistols, one which was a perfect fit (recoil/airsoft), the other (non-recoil) which took some additional prep.
@@OTDefense Not sure if you're being sarcastic. Recently I bought my first gun and I love my Glock gen5. But after polishing the trigger, changing connector, sights, adding stick on grip...I discovered Shadow systems MR920 and it is beautiful. Or Walther PDP. Btw, I'm from EU (Slovenia) Where getting permit is quite a process /endeavour. Like getting aircraft private pilot licence or something. You can't use it for defence or even carry, only to gun range and back -home. In a box, rounds separately, strictly for sport. (target shooting) Unless you work security or in rare cases for defence.
@@Aleksamson Sounds like it's not as reasonable of there for sure. In the US folks can pretty easily buy a pistol and Glocks are kind of the gold standard for relatively inexpensive guns that are super simple for the user to modify. Glocks have a huge amount of aftermarket parts, and holsters are easy to find so that is a big selling point and why folks modify them.
No need to chance your Glock frame like that. There are a number of aftermarket Glock frames, with that 1911 or Sig grip angle, to choose from; they even come with a roomier trigger guard and a larger beavertail. I've been running a Timberwolf frame on my Glock19 with zero issues, it transformed the feel of the gun completely.
That is another option, however, a Timberwolf frame is $250, plus FFL fees.... Couple that with the issues of holster fitment with common duty/3G holsters (Safariland etc), and many folks prefer to keep the Glock as original as possible. The jig eliminates the 'chance' of how grip reductions were done in the past.
@@OTDefense The Timberwolf frame you are referring to comes with an upgraded trigger group, that's why it's $250. You can order just the frame, in many different flavors, for $150 and drop in your original trigger group, which that's what I did, ($150 + $30 FFL fee= $180), well worth it considering all the features that come with it, for example, a larger trigger guard opening, pronounced beaver tail, slightly better rail system, gen 5 type grip texture and of course, (the star of the show), an actual 1911 / Sig grip angle that look factory.....NO chopping required. FYI, they also make an 80% frames, with the same grip angle, delivered to your door steps for $99.95, (NO FFL fee), depending on your state law. As far as Safariland type holsters....don't know, I do not own any; the Timberwolf frame I have fits my kydex pancake holster, including all my CCW holsters just fine. According to Lonewolf, "Any holster that accommodates a Glock will fit a Timberwolf frame". Your millage may very, to each his own.
@@es9415 Correct, to each his own. This product provides the DIY guys a way to eliminate the hump on half a dozen Glocks (because who just owns one :) ) for under under the price of one aftermarket frame, that is the the intent of the jig.
I'd pick a modified OEM frame over the aftermarket frames anyday, (still have yet to play with the Zev OZ9 frame) the only one that felt real good out of the box was the Strike 80, I like being able to adjust the grip angle, remove or stipple grooves, etc. so If you're going to stipple your frame any way, might as well make it your own with the OEM. At least that's just what's comfortable to me Glock-wise
Magwells vary slightly sometimes, even in the same generation. I've run through about 20 frames of various generations and not had any significant issues making the backstraps fit. If you are a dremel and stipple person already, it shouldn't be hard.
Non currently- Need to make a secondary rear portion of the jig to fit in that small of a magwell. I'm prototyping now, and will put it online once I get it dialed in (provided the frame itself doesn't pose any issues).
ha, yeah. It's kind of like buying a 4x4 truck from the factory. Comes with pavement tires. It's the truck you want, and fix it to your liking. Glocks are great guns, minus the hump:)
Most folks tend to the 1911 grip angle, it feels better, shoots better. If Glock would have fixed it years ago we likely would not have seen the M&P becoming mainstream. Most other polymer guns mimic the 1911 as opposed to the factory Glock.
The jig will, but the backstraps will not, and the factory piece that you would cut out will not blend back in as a Glock would. Honestly the P80 already has a corrected angle as well.