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With tighter emissions standards and stricter enforcement, the DPF and the rest emissions systems seem to be the only way to keep diesel trucks from being regulated out of existence. Will manufacturers come up with a better simpler way to reduce emissions? Or is the DPF here to stay? What do you think?

I don't believe that a majority of people delete for power. It's reliability. EGR systems clog intakes and ruin engines WAY before the rest is worn out. The DPF can clog and not burn completely (think city driving with multiple stops) and ruin the engine as well. On top of that, when these parts that are forced upon us fail, the government won't be there to replace them and it's insanely expensive to replace them. It's far more financially viable to remove the components when they fail rather than replace them. God forbid your engine is fried due to a clogged DPF, those things are over $10,000, which is the cost of a small commuter car. I see regens almost every tank. My truck is 100% bone stock. Reliability concerns drive my desire to remove the crap, but I have not done so, yet.

It's crazy that the highest quality videos on diesels are by an after-market support company. Banks, keep it up!

Great video. Although DPF and SCR technology has came such a long way producing less emissions and record power/tq, when they need replaced, parts availability and costs are crushing. Trucks sitting for extended periods at dealers waiting for parts can really put a business owner who relies on it for a living in a real bad spot. Thats when the systems are removed- wait to follow the rules or put food on the table and keep the business open. Banks understands diesels better than anyone but when this emissions technology fails , the consumer is left to wait and pay up or remove it. The government is the king of "Do as I say not as I do". The blatant disregard of EPA rules by military vehicles, ships, planes etc etc. makes me scratch my head. If costs to repair and maintain diesel emission systems were reasonable and readily available when repairs are needed, I believe there would be far less deleted late model trucks out there.

My 2017 Superduty has 300,000 miles. Zero issues with the Egr or DPF. Been running the derringer and Amsoil for 200k miles. I’m living proof this works.

Great video! I am a retired mechanic (ASE Master Tech) and I live in Northern California. I had a CA Smog (test and repair) smog license for over 30 years. Banks is a world apart from all the so called "experts" out there. Understanding how these systems work and designing components that work with and even improve the performance of these modern emissions systems is key. Gale Banks and his employees are a class act really know what they are talking about.

Makes me appreciate my 7.3 all the more.

I find my DPF and EGR work the best when unbolted and thrown in the woods.

The biggest issue i have with the emissions system is that it is extremely unreliable and is consistently the cause of down time and in the trucking industry, that costs you more than the repair itself generally

Coming up on 100k miles running the Derringer on my L5P. Reliable and powerful, I couldn’t ask for more. Thanks for the great product!

Erik,s explanation sounds like it’s coming from a very accomplished teacher. Give this guy a raise, and keep him around. Coming from a service engineer who taught 30 years.

It's amazing how well this system works... when in the trash...

Just wanted to say I'm loving this series. You guys are breaking information down to clear, easy to understand bits that are explained clearly for people of every level of knowledge to understand without being boring or condescending. Great job, and I look forward to the next installment!

Excellent video! My personal goal is to buy a taken care of pre emissions diesel truck and never have to worry about emissions checks and the issues that come with emissions equipment. Honestly if manufacturers would just warranty emissions equipment my faith would be restored. I wasn’t able to enjoy any road trips with my DPF equipped truck because I couldn’t stop thinking about it failing in the middle of nowhere and being stranded because a particulate sensor went out.

Thank you for the detailed information in non-technical jargon. I have had my Derringer tuner on my 2017 ecoDiesel from almost day 1, and it is amazing. I wish Banks made a oil catch can for it, because I know you would make sure that it didn't set any cades and include everything necessary before selling it.

What an excellent video! Eric is well versed and perfect for these explanations. I absolutely love what you guys are doing, I'm hooked! Please keep the great info coming I cant wait to learn something new that I can apply to my truck.

I'm glad you all find a happy medium between the nitty gritty technical stuff for nerds like me and entertainment for the casual enthusiast. Also, thank you for not ignoring the purpose and importance of emissions equipment, however inconvenient to some.

Excellent video guys! One of the easiest to follow and most comprehensive videos on diesel emissions I’ve seen!

Super educational video and very well scripted, explained, presented, filmed and edited. The whole team deserves a pat on the back, well done!

As the new owner of a diesel truck, I really appreciated this video. I was never planned to delete the emissions system (I like breathing too) - I'm more interested in longevity and reliabilty.

Really informative and well produced video. Eric is excellent! DEF vs. EGR use is the tightrope manufacturers have to walk while meeting emissions targets. Heavy EGR use to lower NOx creates more soot which taxes the DPF. Lighter EGR use runs hotter and cleaner soot wise, but requires more DEF to deal with the resulting NOX increase while meeting emissions targets. Less EGR is generally good for the DPF and overall emissions system reliability. It is reported by owners that GM's new 3 liter I6 diesel uses quite a bit of DEF. I wager GM is running lower levels of EGR in that engine, and the EGR it does run is filtered through the closely mounted DPF first. Recently saw a teardown video of the new 3.0 on the "I do Cars" YT channel, the engine was quite clean inside, looking more like a gas engine and not looking like a 145K mile diesel at all. Alas, that particular engine got chewed up as the idiot owner didn't keep oil in it and the pressure fed cam chain tensioners lost the plot, as did the main bearings if memory serves. Though much maligned for it's belt driven oil pump, GM's 3.0 I6 diesel is a cool engine, and the apparently by design increased DEF use is worth it. The belt looked fine in the RU-vidr's teardown video by the way. GM's problematic by the 150K mile mark torque converter will probably need replacing anyway, the belt is easy to service at that point 😆

Congratulations to Eric for his outstanding presentation on DOF, DOC, and SCR in the field of chemical and mechanical engineering! It’s impressive to deliver such a comprehensive overview you have earned your PhD. Eric’s expertise and excellent delivery certainly deserve applause. Well done, Eric! Now, I can’t wait to order ALL Banks products for my 2020 Ram 3500 just need to wait for warranty to end.

Wow, this video is amazing. It held my attention easily and answered all the questions I had on the regen system. Well done!

Fantastic video! I've always wondered why the #1 guy in trucks (Gale Banks) is trying to work with the emissions systems instead of fighting them. Sure, money talks, but with as educated as he is on the subject, he has to know something we don't. Please keep these videos coming!

All real good info. I had 2012 ford 350 diesel that went from 18 mpg stock to 24 mpg with the Def system deleted and the Edge chip only set at 50hp. The system not only increased hp and fuel economy but we tested emissions before and after the delete and although there was a slite increase from the delete it was very little. The truck ran better and more efficiently by removing all the excess.

The EPA recently decided to look at data showing how CO2 is worse than NOX emissions from diesels. Too bad diesels produce more CO2 because the EGR reduces engine efficiency and lifecycle use. Nice job EPA, you ignored all the case studies that pointed out exactly that and screwed most diesel owners and manufacturers alike. From what I've seen most people don't have dpf issues nearly as often as the scr system. If we did away with the egr and allowed engines to not choke on their own exhaust, we could improve efficiency, reduce pm, and regen far less frequently prolonging dpf life for hundreds of thousands of miles. On a side note, the ash that exits the dpf during regens is generally in the category of very small pm which stays in the atmosphere longer and has worse long term health risks. A properly tuned modern diesel with no emissions produces less CO2 while lasting longer at the expense of NOX emissions (which factoring in all diesel engines in existence produce less NOX than lightning does). Modern emissions have been improved with better air flow characteristics, improved injection cycles and pressure, but have been hamstrung by government mandates that have done more harm than good.

I enjoy these videos with Erik just as much as the videos with Gale. His knowledge and dedication to true innovation in the industry is on track to rival his grandfather's some day!

Seems like I get smarter every time I watch a banks video thanks for sharing.

thanks for video, gave a really great explanation about the system.. some old timers complain about all the new emission standards but I remember a time when you didn't want to be driving behind a big rig or sitting beside them on the road because of all the pollution coming out of their exhaust..and the truck stops were like a bad industrial park

I’m retired from the company that invented and makes the substrates for DPFs. It is pretty amazing technology and it was a challenge getting a low-cost manufacturing process to plug every other channel in the substrate.

Well done Eric , excellent presentation , the apple didn’t fall far from the tree 👌Gale should be proud Cheers Chris

If ONLY more people (Tuners) would take the time to understand this, the better off we'd all be. Well done Banks team!!

We shall now show you why you shouldn’t cut out your emissions equipment by cutting apart this emissions equipment that we got from… well never mind that part… In all seriousness thank you for explaining all of this. I have asked 3 performance shops and 2 EPA agents how all of this garbage helps the environment. You are the only people who’ve been able to speak to it intelligently so THANK YOU!

GOOD JOB!!!! That was outstanding! More videos like that are much needed!! THANK YOU!

My truck is a 2018 Ford F350 XLT cc lb drw...I have installed several Banks products: Ram air intake, 5" Monster exhaust, Derrringer set @ power level 3, Pedal Monster @ city level 10...Before Banks items my regens were happening around the 325 to 380 miles & soot levels 90% to 100% with no passive regens...after Banks items installed regens occur regularly at 497 miles & soot levels run 50% to 70% with many passive regens...also my mileage has gone from 16.2 to 16.7...I monitor things with your idash Super Gauge & idash Data Monster

I don't even have a diesel truck😢but I loved the video. Great info and the info was delivered professionally without getting overly techy. Thanks!

Great instructional video! Though it did favor the new emmissions tech on trucks, it still convinced me that my truck is better off without all of it.

We're not doing it for horsepower! It's for longevity and reliability! I run a EFI tow tune and tranny tune. Hauling RV's. Much cheaper to delete than repair. Haven't seen a 500+k miles that wasn't deleted.

Hey, if you want to know why people in the 1700s died earlier than people in the mid-1800s and later, part of it was fireplace soot; it was their only means of cooking and keeping warm. Rolling coal looks cool, but I hate thinking about breathing it in. First world perspective? Sure. But we equally have the means and technology to at least reduce - if not rid of - soot. Let's just hope that diesel emission systems - or diesel technology, as a whole - will continue to get smarter, just as the cats once did. Thank you, Gale and co., for always being pioneers in this field... and for providing us the necessary education many won't!

I had an 08 Cummins with the G56. I bought it from an old timer with 35000 miles on it. On the way home, I drove about 200 miles and got 13 mpg. I had the stuff to delete it there already and got to work. With the tune, I would consistently get 18-19 unloaded and about 14 or 15 loaded down. Now, the tune helped but every once in a while I would go to stock tune with the deletes and my boost would be super low and my EGTs would be really high. I’m guessing it had to run hot to burn the crap off. All that to say, the truck ran better and got better fuel economy. I would 100% recommend it. If nothing else, the EGR is gross. When you take it off, you see all the junk in the air horn.

Great job on the video and keep up the brilliant work, i am very proud to rock Banks on all of my diesels

All good stuff, but, I've had nothing but service engine lights from my totally stock 2017 superduty truck due to the DPF. After the 4th time at the dealer, and having the check engine light come on again on my drive home with the threat to limit speed to 80km's/hr I cut the stupid thing out and got a delete tune. My fuel mileage has gone up 100km's per tank, and I have another 200 hp. Massive HP/Torque increase over stock. I never even floor it anymore. 3/4 throttle and I'm gone.

Fascinating indeed. I’m just worried about the ash formation in the DPF.

My first good diesel truck was stock and I contacted Gale Banks Engineering about how to do something to help the fuel mileage and performance meaning torque for towing REALLY heavy loads they talked with me anytime I wanted and finally my changes were made very few actually and the thing doubled in mileage and torque. It was over the warranty and had RIDICULOUS TORQUE AND FUEL MILEAGE and I can't say enough for their help ! And no charge for telling me what's best for that particular truck ! When my new truck warranty is up I'll be doing this ay with their direction of course !!!! We're talking EXPERTS. THANKS GUYS

I'm trying to learn all I can before ordering my first diesel soon...this is exactly the primer I needed. Thanx!

I’m so happy y’all did this video. So much nonsense out there and this just makes sense of it all. Very classy of y’all… best performance for the lowest emissions.

I really appreciate the statement "taking a sawzall to your exhaust is no replacement for good engineering". Absolutely right!

You just said the magic words ! The few active regen your truck engine sees the longer it last ! So delete your engine,you’ll have cleaner oil better diesel mileage,

Great video and company. That said the level of complexity and maintenance costs are beyond ridiculous for many of these diesel trucks. The pursuit of emission control has pushed The technology to be more efficient and therefore more powerful as stated but the bizarre systems and components required to make the emissions less deadly makes it a nightmare for everybody. There's got to be a better way. When it comes I'm sure banks will be right there to support it and make it better.

You can use "Big Iron Bar" to clean out clogged dpf filters. It also works great on catalytic converters and stock Harley Davidson mufflers. Just a few strokes of Big Iron Bar will fix most exhaust problems.

Great video with excellent information! One thing to keep in mind though is that service trucks generally have wayyy higher idle times than normal. While these emission systems continue to improve, these exhaust systems are EXTREMELY expensive to repair/replace. My company has lost almost $500k so far just this year in truck downtime (not counting the cost to repair is like $3-4k per repair) due to backordered parts to fix the exhaust systems when they break...and they seem to break way more often than they should.

Epic vid brother 👌 From my experience a Turbocharger is the biggest culprit for dumping oil in the exhaust system and No1 cause for engine runaway

Wow. Eric has really become a young Gale. I guess the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Make sure they keep up these good engineering based uploads Lightning.

Cool technology, it’s a shame the epa mandated the 250 mile limp mode fault. Unfortunately that’s not practical for my use, I ended up deleting after being stranded.

Man I wish all the "roll coal" bros would learn a bit and come follow Banks / use Banks products. Great content guys.

Great video I learned a lot. Thank you for taking the time to make that video.

That was an awesome video. I learned a lot I was thinking about deleting my 2014 Duramax but now maybe not thanks great video I had to check out that Turner

The growing pain years are a decade in the mirror at this point, the future is bright, powerful and most importantly, far cleaner. Thanks for the information.

Love Banks stuff wish you made it for my Kubota tractor the intake is right over the radiator.

Particulate matter took me to my wife's carrier as a respiratory therapist! Cigarette smokers using filters did more lung damage than non-filtered ( straight) cigarette smokers !! Her schooling said filtered smokers pulled finer particles through more resistance and lodged smaller particles deeper in the the lung passageways. Non filtered smokers pulled in more tar and nicotine easier, and particles were larger which are easier to cough up. Someone will come up with a catchy response, but your facts about smaller particles getting in the brain got me responding. Oh, I must add that my eye doctor is seeing local young people that vape are going to go blind 10 years earlier that cigarette smokers. Normally drusden ( yellow spots in your colored area of your eyes) starts in your late 50's, migrates to macular degeneration in your late 60's and you are now legally blind. Now move this whole chart 10 years earlier and she said vaping people start this vicious cycle!! Her conclusion was vapers will be legally blind by 60 years old. Ouch!

Excellent explanation, I bought 3.0 duramax and is my first diesel truck

I want to see Banks doing some work with Speed of Air Technologies and Dynomite Diesel. I think that trio could make an insanely efficient engine, with the SOA pistons, Dynomite's clean and efficient injectors, and of course Banks' tuning and airflow knowledge.

Excellent video, the amount of misinformation about DPF/DEF is absolutely staggering, and the advertising part isn't too intrusive to me

Legacy: This is the Banks WAY!!!!!!! Excellent work People!

I would also like to add that the DOC also does some conversion of N2O to NO2 which goes more in-depth chemically with how the SCR works and reduces NOx emissions….another thing is the DPF is right after the DOC and the SCR last…. For a active regen there are two ways one is with an injector upstream of the DOC as the DOC reacts it gets hot and thus gets the DPF downstream after hot also, the other one is “in cylinder injection” which is where on the exhaust stroke a small amount of fuel is injected and just pushed into the exhaust…. Pretty much everything else you stated is fairly accurate when giving a base overview

They look like a really bad restriction. All I know is that the dodge trucks that were in our fleet had more engine problems and spent more time in the service center than they did on the road all because of those. They created more engines problems and threw more codes than they were worth. I’m speaking of truck with less than 50,000 miles on them. We’ve had the issues start with as little as 3000 miles.

I'm waiting for the Derringer for my 22 6.7 PSD!!

Very impressive presentation. I may well seriously consider a diesel pickup as my next vehicle. The in-line tuner sounds more than sensible.

Wow. I never knew how advanced and brilliant this engineering is. Fantastic video. I'm a better nan for this. thanks

I'm 66 years old and I've got an '04 LB7 that just turned 512,000 miles. It doesn't have any of that stuff and it still runs great. I'm hoping that given proper care it'll outlast me.

When will the Derringer be released for the 6.7 Cummins?

Thanks for a clear explanation of how this stuff actually works

Love your videos. Insanely informative. Any word on a Derringer for the 2020 and up Powerstrokes? I bracket race a 21 and am eager to get an inline tuner for it.

Great video. Got a chem 101 refresher, got supporting info about the clowns rolling coal and learned what mu DPF looks like. As always, Banks teaching as well as preaching.

Wow surprised they didn’t mention a sealed oil catch can that’s connected to the turbo intake 😮

As a person that loves power and also loves this planet I found this very refreshing. Well done!!!!!

Thanks for explaining how these systems work!

Great video and super informative but unfortunately I doubt the coal rollers will take your advice or even care. Owning multiple TDI's has proven to me you can have a clean exhaust even without a DPF and a tune.

Do private jets use dpf? 🧐

@bankspower Where we live, we don't have emission testing. We honestly don't care (Ohio). I just googled a 6.7 Powerstroke and a 6.7 Cummins delete kit from Canada shipped to my door. The average cost seems to be around $2700 with the tuner. $2700 and I never have to worry about anything after the turbo again. Now, a REMAN DPF system for a 6.7 also ranges in price across Google. Most are around $3000 for the whole system. Used are around $1500 from a junkyard all rusted. Most trucks last over 250,000 miles, normally. How many times will I have to replace anything on the aftertreatment system over the life of the truck? NOX sensors, the 7th injector, the DPF filter, DEF doser, the DEF system in general, this list goes on. It seems anything related to emissions, fails a lot sooner than anything else on the truck. That's just the physical parts. Now we get into the obnoxious price of labor to replace any faulty parts, if you don't work on your own equipment. Emissions, the EPA and the idiots "rolling coal" aside, over the life of the truck, I'm spending the $2700 upfront, deleting the DPF and I'm done. Never spending another dime on anything after the turbo. Over time, the aftertreatment systems have improved, especially on the big truck side of things but parts still fail and parts are expensive to replace after the warranty expires. This has nothing to do with "I hate the EPA" (I do but..) or "I wanna ROLL COALL!!!", this is coming from people who can't afford breakdown after breakdown and a derated truck related to the aftertreatment system. $2700 now and delete VS who knows how much $$$ over the life of the truck. This comment is also coming from an individual, not a business owner who the EPA can attack. A big difference there.....

This is a really good informative video👍 hopefully makes everyone rethink delete kits and dirty tunes. Great job banks power👍👍

If companies would just tell us that the vehicle is in regeneration mode than we may feel a little better about them. I feel like they are trying to have your truck break down so you have to take it in to get costly maintenance. That’s the quickest way to lose customers!

this video is so useful- I wanted to know what active vs passive dpf regen was, and you explained it beautifully.!

Ive had the derringer on my 18 l5p for about 3 years now and it works good. The only complaint i have is they engineered it for the higher edition trucks that have electronic 4x4 (knob/pushbutton on the dash) my truck is a w/t modle so it has the shift lever on the floor. So every time i put in 4-low it throws a code on the derringer for excessive trans/slip. But other then that it works good. Ps. When somthing on the emissions system goes out, shes definitely getting deleted

according to Cali everything causes cancer

Very informative and easy to understand, thanks for the video.

What an awesome video, learned so much. Thank you!

Banks should engineer a PVC catch can to keep the oil out of the intake so it doesn't get burned. Catch cans for turbos are not simple like on a naturally aspirated engine. Gale needs to engi ner a catch can for all diesel trucks and the Ford F150 ECO boost.

Most people delete the truck to make it louder and more efficient you can’t get a nice sounding truck with the emissions equipment. let’s not forget that the emission systems burns fuel in the exhaust in order for the exhaust to be cleaner and burn the soot out of the dpf .therefore lowering your efficiency. In the end, there’s more pros to removing the emissions than keeping it on.

Very interesting presentation, answered a lot of my questions. Thanks!

Great video guys really appreciate your informative information

My hilux went from using 12.5l/100km to 8l/100km with a dpf delete and a good tune, even if there is a small increase in particulates emitted I think the massive fuel saving is better for the environment and I no longer have to incur the cost of poor fuel economy, poor performance or poor long term reliability.

The problem I’ve have is that DEF freezes at 10 degrees F I’ve been stuck on the side of a road for hours because of a emissions system if you live where it gets below 0 regularly you should delete the emissions

What a great video and very informative 💪🏽💪🏽

Love the product reviews, but the upgrades on your truck was awesome! If you could find a way to pull of both, I would be absolutely glued to your channel (even though I practically are already 😂)

Abolish the EPA.

So if Banks makes better power and it's actually possible to do that, why doesn't it come that way from the factory? surely the engineers there have more data and resources than banks? Can you cover that question some time

This was very informative. Thank you.

Excellent explanation. The more you know 💫

THe other thing that does a great job solving this problem... Drilling a hole right through the DPF.