GM issues a THIRD battery recall for the Chevy Bolt

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In this video, we will be discussing the fires and subsequent recalls on the 2017 - early 2019 Chevrolet Bolt EV.
Video Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:56 What are we Talking About?
01:56 What is the Problem?
04:20 What has GM Done So Far (1st Recall)
06:13 "The Final Remedy" (2nd Recall)
10:03 July 14, 2021 GM Statement
11:10 GM Admits a Physical Battery Fault (3rd Recall)
13:00 GM's Latest Safety Suggestions
15:27 Why is this Happening?
23:20 What to do Next
26:23 GM is buying back my Bolt / Call GM
Since 2019, there have been a little more than a dozen Chevy Bolts that have spontaneously combusted, and these fires have been linked to a fault within the high voltage battery pack. GM has released two previous safety recalls to address these fires, starting with an "interim fix" in November 2020, followed by what they said was "the final remedy" in late May - early June 2021. Unfortunately, since "the final remedy" was released, two 2019 Chevy Bolts that had "the final remedy" applied caught fire, seemingly due to the batteries spontaneously combusting. This prompted GM to announce a 3rd recall June 23, 2021.
This video will discuss what we know so far about the fires that have occurred, why I believe they have occurred based off of available information, what GM has done about this problem and has just promised to do in the future, and what they suggest doing for the time being. We will also discuss what my future plans are, given GM's relatively poor handling of a major safety risk.
It is important to note that the battery fires and recalls only apply to 2017 - early 2019 Chevy Bolt EVs and their European twin, the Ampera-E. Later production 2019 Bolts and all 2020+ Bolts are not affected by this problem.
To check and see if your vehicle is covered by this, or any other recall, have your vehicle identification number handy and go to this website:
my.chevrolet.com/recalls
If you would like to contact GM to express your concern about the Chevy Bolt and/or potentially start a buy back claim:
Call the EV Concierge team at 833-EVCHEVY (833-382-4389) between 8AM - 7PM EST.
Chat with Chevy Customer Service online by going to www.chevrolet.com/contact/cal... , scroll to the middle of the page and click the "Message Us" button.
For further information about the battery fires and the latest recall, consider following Transport Evolved on RU-vid.
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@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Hey everyone! Just wanted to apologize about the typos in the “PowerPoint” presentation. This was something that I tried to write and produce pretty quickly, and I did not proofread it as much as I normally would. Part 2 of this video will be posted next week!

@TalismanPHX 2 года назад

The 2017-2019 Bolt has batteries produced by LGChem in south Korea. All of the defective batteries are South Korean made. Part way through the 2019 Bolt model year, GM began producing their own cellpacks in Holland Michigan. None of the defective batteries are US made.

@seemaprathapan7354 2 года назад

Shut up general Motors batteries are good only lg chem batteries have deffects your dear elon musk the biggest idiot in the world also buys batteries from lg chem

@mmanjin 2 года назад

So GM has gone from internal combustion to spontaneous combustion vehicles. Now that’s progress.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Ford had them beat by a couple decades in regards to spontaneous combustion vehicles :)

@creamofbotulismsoup9900 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 They don't call them Ford Exploders for nothing. Though to be fair if your Ford Explorer didn't catch on fire, at least the older ones were super reliable.

@creolerican 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 I see you are a LOYAL "Govt' Motors" consumer of the Bolt. Do you really trust they "Gov't Motors" have resolved the issue after the 2nd or 3rd recall?.. or do you wish to continue being their Guinea Pig for their poorly produced product? #NothingAppealingAboutaBOLT

@HAASgoggles 2 года назад

@@creamofbotulismsoup9900 Ralph Nader could tell you stories about the Ford pinto

@patburnsent 2 года назад

I have installed an alarm on my wallet that will activate any time it is opened inside a GM dealership. So far it has been 100 percent effective in preventing me from buying a Chevy Bolt.

@AC-gp4gz 2 года назад

This recall is a good thing as long as GM learns from its flaws and improves the design. It’s not like Tesla never had any major issues engineering their vehicles.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Exactly. New technology = new problems. Unfortunately, it is low hanging fruit for all the Tesla fanbois and EV/GM haters.

@johnreese3762 2 года назад

That's because Tesla has real engineers and GM has bean counters. They have put many suppliers out of business with their ICE cars.

@evgrandpa365 2 года назад

I chose the buyback because i knew it was never going to get fixed. Impacted my home solar battery as well which has been pretty terrible. I won’t buy anything that has the name lg chem attached to it. They should replace all batteries. But they drag consumers through hell trying to patch fix a major problem.

@JoeLinux2000 2 года назад

My experience with their clothes dryer is that LG is quite experienced at designing defective products.

@rwdplz1 2 года назад

I don't think anyone who has bought LG products is REALLY that surprised.

@lesizmor9079 2 года назад

For all of you folks who remember the bottom of the barrel electronics company in the 80's--- Emerson --- makers of VCR's and little TV's, they changed their name in the 90's after they couldn't sell any more of their junk to the U.S.market. The new name you ask? LG. Not making this up, I worked in that industry. Thanks Chevy, for not doing the most basic background check for who's making your batteries. All this could have been avoided.

@JoeLinux2000 2 года назад

I agree, just based on the lint filter in my LG clothes dryer. It's a house fire risk too.

@NA-rs3zb 2 года назад

Keep up the good work on the videos! Very informative and thorough.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@billbrock5486 2 года назад

Thanks for the great breakdown of all this. Great Work.

@kevinwhited984 2 года назад

Thanks for that thorough explanation of the recalls.

@jen..93 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing this immensely important information.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

You're welcome, thanks for watching!

@unarchubat 2 года назад

Thank you so much for such a comprehensive explanation. I love my 2017 Bolt, but I am anxious about a potential fire. I am in contact with GM.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

You are welcome, and good luck with the process.

@Jonathon1S 2 года назад

Yes. HOLD Chevrolet or GM accountable this issue. If it's potentially causing an issue sketching a fire, they should be held 100% responsible!!!!!!!!!!!

@PaulCapps 2 года назад

Do you know if there was deference in the type of charging.If battery was always charged using legal 1 ?

@wassiswallylokhankin191 2 года назад

I'm in the same boat as you with my 2019 Bolt purchased in October 2019 (I'm not quite sure when my Bolt was produced but GM issued a recall for it - which I did). The only difference is that I am kind of in two minds about the buyback thing. On one hand, I truly love my Bolt and it would be sad to see it go. On the other, risking to lose my car, my (detached) man cave and - potentially - my house to some mysterious "manufacturing fault" is hardly an option. Anyway, I have subscribed to you channel and do look forward to learning about your buyback experience. Thank you fellow Bolter! :)

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and good luck with the buy back.

@Expressionistix 2 года назад

GM models always degrade in quality over time as cost cutting becomes the main priority in year to year updates.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

This is true for every manufacturer of anything, cars or otherwise. Why do you think Tesla just removed radar from their vehicles? I can assure that it wasn’t because it made their auto pilot systems better.

@mikescott58 2 года назад

Currently following all GM recommendations for my 2017 Bolt and have decided to go the buyback route. I plan to replace it with a 2022 Bolt EUV. Like you, I have started the process.

@mamadouaziza2536 2 года назад

Good luck and I hope you get the car you want.

@musk-eteer9898 2 года назад

uh...why?

@laxtimercom 2 года назад

The best summary I've seen so far. I hope 2020+ Bolts are not affected since I have a 2020. But I'm reluctant to trust GM when you mention that the Bolt was designed with no battery buffer. That sounds like someone who is worried more about marketing range and low cost instead of my safety or reliability.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I agree with you, but I think that with the 2022 Bolts now have at least a 1kwh buffer built in, which would explain why the battery went from an advertised 66kwh in 2021 to 65kwh in 2022. I also don’t know if the 2020+ packs have a built in buffer or not, but I kind of suspect that they may at least have a buffer on the top of the battery since they charge substantially faster at high state of charge vs the 2017-2019 (about 2x as fast over 90%). The driver could also choose to avoid charging to 100% daily, only charge that high for long trips and avoid running the battery below 10%, which I suggest anyway. The Model 3 doesn’t have a top buffer either and they don’t recommend charging past 90% unless you need it for a long road trip.

@bigmacdaddy1234 2 года назад

All Bolts are affected. Anything built by GM should be taken off the road.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

This is not verified information. There has been no issue with any 2020+ Bolts.

@bigmacdaddy1234 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 Give it time. GM just hasn't been forced to announce it yet.

@Cello69. 2 года назад

Same thoughts here. I also have a 2020. Not taking any chances. Not letting the change drop too much and definitely not charging all the way.

@TinotheTitan 2 года назад

Is this recall for only the early production of the Chevy 2019? I'm receiving one this coming week and am afraid I'm making a mistake.

@JimArnold6 2 года назад

Thanks for the comprehensive video. We own a 8/18 built Bolt (2019 Model), although you mention Oct 2018 to Feb 2019 Bolts. I assume I have to be part of the faulty pack runs. I previously requested a buyback and was denied. I live in a state with poor lemon laws and have not heard of a single Bolt own in my state approved for a buy back. We also own a Tesla and would jump at a chance to get another. I will be contacting Chevy again...

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

My comment about 9 of the 15 Bolts that are known to have had their batteries catch fire being built between Oct 2018 and Feb 2019 is strictly based off of what information is available online. As far as we know, all 2017-early 2019 Bolts are affected by these recalls. GM has not stated that there are any 2017-2019 Bolts that are more or less likely to catch fire. The only thing they have done that has even come close to indicating this is that they made the "final remedy" available to 2019 Bolts before it was available to 2017-2018 Bolts. That might be because they potentially use different software and required different updates to be made, or they may have been prioritizing 2019 Bolts because they are more problematic. I don't know, and GM isn't saying anything. It's interesting the local lemon laws are sometimes making the difference between whether or not an owner is even receiving a buy back offer for their Bolt, because in almost all of the buy back cases I've heard (including mine), the buy back laws do not apply. In my particular case, the local buy back law only comes into effect after the manufacturer has had 3 failed attempts to remedy the issue. When I initiated my buy back request, I had not taken my Bolt in for the initial interim fix, and the "final remedy" had only just become available, so they had no yet had 3 attempts to fix it. Either way, yes, I would definitely suggest contacting them again.

@mamadouaziza2536 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 They should just buy it back really.. I mean would anyone have purchased these Bolts knowing in the immediate future you can't park in a garage, you can charge overnight, you will have 10% less range and the possibility of your Bolt exploding??? No one would have touched this car.

@desiv1170 2 года назад

Great vid. Thanx. I'm holding out to see a bit what happens with my 2017. For a few reasons. 1: It's a 2017, which so far appears to be a bit safer. There have been no recent fires on the 2017s. 2: I have near 90k. Taking into account mileage, I am sure GM wouldn't give me quite as much/straight trade for my Bolt (and I see why, I have nearly 4 years on this car..) 3: I love this car. It's been the most rock solid new car I've owned. I mean, I would take a newer model if I had to, but I wouldn't necessarily be happy about that. ;-) ;-) Fingers crossed..

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I really like my Bolt as well. I would say that I actually like it more than my Model 3, although that may be an irrational feeling. Although I have had more issues (mostly build quality) with my Model 3 in 4 months and 11k miles of driving than I have in 2 years and 29k miles on my Bolt, which has been really reliable and solidly built up to this point. What ultimately pushed me to pursue a buy back, aside from the fact that the early 2019’s like mine seem to be the most likely to burn, was GM’s initial decision to try to “fix” the battery issue with a software update, which I was confident would either reduce the vehicles capabilities or merely try to detect a failing battery before it caught fire (and I was right.) I’m also concerned that GM still insists that they can diagnose failing batteries, which is something that is sort of implied in their latest recall. They haven’t said that they are replacing ALL the 2017-2019 Bolt batteries, they’ve said they are replacing “defective modules, which sounds to me as though they still believe that they can test and determine which individual modules are bad and replace only those. I guess we’ll see what happens. Ultimately for me, on paper at least, the Bolt EUV takes most of the things I like about my Bolt and improves many of the things I wanted them to improve, and with the trade deal I got, I’m getting a good price. Can’t be too unhappy about that I suppose, as long as my car doesn’t catch on fire in the meantime. Thanks for watching!

@dannygo4230 2 года назад

This is really a good video. I think the battery issues on EV will be an ongoing thing, especially since we now have enough of them, that the problems will be "caught". The nature of the beast, pumping electrons, to store electrons, and at ever higher speed and capacity for the same volume. Fortunately for the manufacturers, a good majority of the users will not be using their cars "to the limits". They may charge the battery every few days, leaving the majority in the "safe" range between say 30 to 70%. I use a lot of rechargeable batteries on flashes for my photography. They give problems when I use the fast high current chargers, have given up and now only use the slow ones, and rotate out more batteries. Even then, batches are not so consistent.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

100% agree with your comment. Even after 100+ years of mass-market use, ICE vehicles are not perfect either. There are still some that catch fire on their own, or catastrophically fail in other ways. In reality, even if you look at all the Bolts and Hyundai Konas with LG Chem, the number that have actually failed is still a very small fraction of the total number of vehicles sold. We tend to be super critical of safety defects when someone else can be blamed, yet there is still a shocking number of people who can't even be bothered to wear a seat belt. I wear my seat belt lol, but I'm still guilty of being concerned about the slightly elevated possibility that my car could catch fire while it sits in my driveway, even if the chance is very small. High current/capacity lithium cells are still a relatively new concept to the mass-market, so there are still development issues, but as EVs and other high powered devices start using lithium cells, they will improve.

@macdds 2 года назад

As far as I know, GM used lots of LG batteries from Korea, which also have been used on many Hyundai electric vehicles like Kona. I would avoid those electric cars as I can not imagine if they caught fire inside of my garage.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Many vehicles use LG batteries. The Kona is currently going through almost exactly the same issue as the Bolt (I used to own a Kona that was affected and sold it earlier this year). The Kona batteries are built by LG in China though, not the same factory, for whatever that is worth.

@sidgysoho1960 2 года назад

In spite of this dicey situation GM has been stand up in acknowledging there is a problem. I wish they had done this for the Chevy Cruz ! The power point style is a stroke of genius. What a great way to follow along. As for the transparency, do your homework on the Cruz. I stand by my statement. The other great obscurity is, " What happened to the EV1 ? " And more importantly, why ? Very good presentation and explanation. But as most people of the 21st century know, a degrading electrically charged cell is a ticking time bomb. When you try to pump electrons around the good old fashioned way, it is a recipe for disaster. Largely due to the inherent impurities and manufacturing inconsistencies of power cell production. Cheers.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

GM definitely has some significant black marks on their reputation for how they have handled widespread reliability and safety issues in the past, as have other manufacturers, but GM is possibly the most notorious. I think the hope of many Bolt owners is that they would have learned from their previous mistakes, as the CEO had promised in the past, and maybe they have, but the public response to this issue so far has been disappointing. Of course, we also have to understand that since they are relying on an effectively outside supplier to create enough battery modules to replace the bad ones, there is only so much they can do quickly. They could offer to replace all the affected 2017-2019 Bolts, but they are currently struggling to even get enough inventory right now to supply new paid orders, let alone replacing vehicles for all the existing owners. Regarding the batteries, any relatively new technology will have issues, especially as manufacturers try to push the capabilities of the existing technology. All things considered, widespread usage of lithium-based batteries is still relatively new, and using them in mass-produced vehicles is really new, especially given that there are so many different cell chemistries. On the plus side, as EVs become more common and more investment is made into the technology, the better and safer it will get. I'm glad you liked the PowerPoint presentation. I was worried it was going to remind people too much of school or work, but it was the best way I could think of to present a lot of information and keep myself on topic without a script. Thanks for watching!

@homomorphic 2 года назад

Like the Indian architecture motif you have going...

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Thank you!

@martydavis9777 2 года назад

What are your plans now for the latest bolt recalls

@oleandrummer 2 года назад

I called GMs EV concierge line two weeks ago to start the buyback process of my 2019 bolt. Provided them with all the paperwork and am waiting for their decision. They said it will take about 2-3 weeks.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Yeah, it’s not a quick process, especially since I’ll bet they are getting inundated right now. I still think that, especially for 2019 owners that are covered by the recall, this is probably the best option. For me personally, just the possibility that my car could decide to catch fire would weigh heavily on me.

@OKtunes 2 года назад

Started the same for my 2018. Hopefully they don’t stick us with the all the depreciation. I bought the car with the intention of keeping it 10 years as I anticipated slow range degradation to be the only risk.

@billrussell569 2 года назад

At least GM is notifying you (via cell phone) that your car is about to catch fire and that you should evacuate the building. GM is all about safety.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Has this been verified somewhere? The last I’d heard, there had been no software updates to the Onstar module, so there would be no way for the vehicle to communicate that.

@theheathkitshop2424 2 года назад

Looks like GM back tracked a bit on the battery replacement. Now they state that ' defective modules' will be replaced and not necessarily the entire battery pack.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

They were a bit unclear on that at first, and yes, their later statements seem to indicate that they aren’t just replacing all the batteries. A big mistake in my opinion, and it makes me even more glad that I pursued a buy back instead. I don’t want the “what ifs” running through my head for the entire time I own the car. Thanks for watching!

@cbkenison 2 года назад

The problem is related to dendritic growth piercing the separator

@TKevinBlanc 2 года назад

I don't know that this is true (although this is the common cause for Li battery fires). GM says that there are two manufacturing defects in some modules, but haven't detailed what those defects are.

@wolfgangpreier9160 2 года назад

@@TKevinBlanc Battery cells start to burn in themselves when they are shorted, melt the case and expose themselves to air while still glowing red. How does a cell short itself? By manufacturing defects of the foil - Anode or Cathode does not matter - and being charged and while being charged building dendrites that should not pierce the foils - but they may if there are enough manufacturing defects. All of this does not happen with LiFePo4.

@jeffgrave 2 года назад

Hopefully the new designed 2022 will not have any issues.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

The 2022 uses essentially same battery as the 2020+ Bolts, and so far they have had no issues that I’m aware of. I personally have not heard or experienced any other common issues with the EV drivetrain in the Bolt.

@jeffgrave 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 Thanks. Is it true the rear end suspension on all bolts is a solid axle with a tuned suspension, so NO independent ion the back?

@tnt600 2 года назад

This recall is a shame and GM needs a class action. The recall involves lowering the capacity of the battery to 83% capacity. You no longer can charge it a 100% which will decrease mileage to about 188 miles. Anyone else experience this?

@BGWenterprises 2 года назад

Interesting there now far more concerned about keeping a minimum in the battery, then a maximum. As from the beginning i was surprised they where only limiting the topend of the battery. . Makes me wonder how many of the fire cases where related to charging under 50% charge. Cinda like how some people keep next to no extra gas in a tank and it takes the fuel pump out earlier than it should. 0.01c

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I believe the concern that they have it this point is related to long charging sessions or deeply recharging the battery as opposed to keeping a certain minimum charge in the battery, or basically recharging from a low state of charge back to near full. That is a theme that has come up in some of the past battery fires. An additional recommendation that I’ve read from GM (after recording the video) is to recharge after every trip (which results in shorter charging sessions) rather than making several trips, running the battery down further and then having a longer charge session

@TKevinBlanc 2 года назад

I wonder why they didn't give percentage limits top and bottom. Also, reducing the capacity so dramatically and telling people (basically) not to charge overnight means owners will charge at L2 fast chargers more often. That seems like it might be harder on the battery, and cause more fires.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I suspect the reason they didn’t list percentage on the bottom is because there is no way to see exact battery percentage in the vehicle, aside from using the MyChevy app through Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. They may have assumed that giving a general number of remaining miles to stay above may be easier for the average person to understand. I can only assume the reason they gave a top percentage limit is because you can sort of infer percentage on the Target Charge Level graphic.

@TKevinBlanc 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 Oh, that makes sense.

@rwdplz1 2 года назад

**Bolt car alarm goes off** "SHE'S GONNA BLOW!!!"

@harolddeyoung9641 2 года назад

No mention of testing the individual cell temperature while under a load. Static cell voltage isn't enough information. Testing under a load is the best way to understand if each cell is behaving normally. You guys need me to come over there and help you understand the problem? No charge.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I don’t pretend to understand all the technical details of battery technology, but I get what you are saying, and it’s part of the reason why I doubt that their efforts to “diagnose” failing battery modules and selectively replace them. I don’t doubt that GM or LG engineers could determine a way to test the individual cells, but I doubt that they could do it with the hardware that is currently in the vehicle, and I definitely don’t trust the dealership technicians who are looking at the cars since they generally only have a very superficial understanding of how the cars even work (I say that as an auto tech myself who has worked at a Chevy dealer in the past).

@johnreese3762 2 года назад

GM: What is testing??

@ejonesss 2 года назад

a quick google research shows that gm is using the same style of battery modules that they did way back in 2014. i wonder if there isnt a faulty connection in the bms connector where one of the cells is intermittently not being connection? i should know because i have a 2014 chevy volt battery module i use to power an ebike i bought on ebay. along with the module came a crudely wired bms connector that used 2 series wired extension ribbons for breadboard/arduino/raspberry pi application through a balance board for an ev peak a9 hobby charger as the battery module is a 12s3p configured. that is 12 series of 3 parallel wired cells for a total of 36 cells. i was getting cell count errors on the 1. side of the battery module because i had to electrically split the module into 2 6s so i can charge them with a hobby charger and the 1 6s side kept giving cell count errors or would take a really long time to balance. so i rewired the balance lead to remove the 2 breadboard extension ribbons and wire 6s balance leads and i was still getting charge errors occasionally . i finally got a evpeak a9 charger witch can charge all 12s at once so i wired up a new connector and still got cell count errors and i figured ok maybe there is a problem with the bms port or cable where the connector would not fit in all the way. the ev peak charger is so good at detecting problems with the wiring it will abort and show error immediately if the wires are even bumped while charging. i have on order a new connector that is designed for atx power supply and will have to trim down the end with a dremel i hope the connector pins will be able to connect better and not lead to incomplete charge due to faulty connection. also it could be that gm is trying to charge too fast so maybe they need to reduce to 10 amps for the charge rate.

@braddarnell2498 Год назад

23 Bolt is a awesome car though.

@wrenchingfool5284 Год назад

Agreed, for the price

@festeradams3972 2 года назад

What is GM doing now with the new 2022? That would be a question for me as I'm considering moving to an EV from my trusty standard Prius. Any battery, either one cell or several thousand cells in a large pack can fail if mistreated. Do the newly introduced 2022 Bolts have software that limits maximum SOC or minimum SOC? Although my current Prius uses Nickel Metal Hydride cells the computer is very good at managing the main battery pack. In my situation, I'm now retired and my trips are usually around 25 miles or so so my preference would be only "trickle charging" with the 120v charger, and limiting max charge to 80-85% and perhaps 40% depth of discharge. The main pack would be quite happy with this and so would I.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

This hasn't been answered for sure, but for 2022 GM did reduce the advertised capacity of the Bolt batteries from 66kWh to 65kWh, and I suspect that 1kWh loss was as a result of increasing the battery buffer. The 2020+ Bolts also use a completely different battery from the affected 2017-early 2019 Bolt batteries, and so far there have not been any issues with them. I'm not sure if GM changed anything with these batteries to increase their durability, although I will say that prior to the battery fires, the 2017-2019 Bolt batteries had been shown to have very low battery degradation, even without having a top or bottom buffer. I generally do not charge my 2019 Bolt past 90% and usually try not to discharge below about 25% in daily driving, although I have quite deeply discharged it and even ran it out once (by accident!) on longer road trips.

@braddarnell2498 Год назад

23 Bolt is awesome. Bugs are worked out now

@mjsgong3943 2 года назад

I called today and they took my information they told me it will take a 1-2 weeks for someone to reach out to me to start the process of gathering my information due to lots of customers are applying for the buy back any tip and help to expidite the process t

@VIP-ry6vv 2 года назад

I personally don't mind because I purchased this car very cheaply and my use falls well within the 40-90% soc that gm recommends. I would be very upset If I had purchased the vehicle new, or needed the advertised range.

@ronpauley3225 2 года назад

Well now you can add 2020 thru 2022 Bolts that are now being recalled! Even the new Updated 2022's! Go figure!

@JoeLinux2000 2 года назад

One thing I know is that LG makes some really crappy appliances. The lint filter on the clothes dryers are absolutely pathetic. There is no good reason in the world, that LG could not design a lint trap that actually catches lint. The one on most of their machines is extremely leaky and leads to excessive build of lint inside the machine which eventually can lead to a house fire.

@jomama9203 2 года назад

So now I'm thinking about purchasing a used Bolt at a discounted price and getting a brand new battery pack from GM.

@mamadouaziza2536 2 года назад

Oh? GM has not stated they are replacing the packs. Word is that they just might buyback the affected Bolts and crash them.. Sales have stalled on the older Bolts and the prices really have not come down that much.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

As stated, GM may not be replacing all the batteries, they are still (currently) stating that they will only replace defective modules. Not sure how they intend to reliably identify which ones are defective (before they catch fire).

@jomama9203 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 Thanks for the reply. You caught me not watching the entire video... Sorry!

@JoeLinux2000 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 So a module is a defective cell or something else?

@peterallam6494 2 года назад

What happens concerning ex European GM brands now in Stellanis' (?) stable - do GM remain responsible or the new owners? Also recharging areas here are more compact - folk charge side by side then Park n' Ride or go off shopping. Potential danger for vehicles grouped together. If you recharge in an integrated garage area or any garage area ensure you have WORKING fire alarms. Would extended cables allowing recharging away from buildings? Have concerns for elderly family friend about to complete an EV deal.

@naughtysauce4323 2 года назад

I'm an early adopter of EV's. Bought the leaf when it first came out, bought a Spark EV used recently for a work vehicle since my commute is only 8 miles, and had the first gen Volt. I love EV's but I wouldn't buy a new one today. I would wait another 5-10 years when the prices have come down and the issues have been resolved fully. I was in the market for a used 17 Bolt, but my families life is not worth the benefits of an EV.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I definitely agree that the current EV pricing, as well as the trend of making luxury EVs, is not really ideal for the average consumer, but I would caution equating all current EVs as inherently unsafe or unreliable. In fact, most of the EVs currently available are very reliable, but the one's that catch fire get all the attention. Thanks for watching!

@naughtysauce4323 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 My Spark EV is nearly 8 years old and no known fires I'm aware of. Let me rephrase that, I don't trust EV's with LG batteries in them.

@seanz6586 2 года назад

I’ve used my Tesla Model S for almost 5 years. No issues. Would buy new again. This time…plaid.

@dathyr1 Год назад

Isn't this very old news - it is now Dec 2022. Supposedly they are replacing the bad batteries for free in the older models, so we should be good to go in the 2023 models. So i am not worried about the new 2023 models.

@wrenchingfool5284 Год назад

Not sure if this comment is intended for me or not, but you’re right, this is old news. The video was posted over a year ago. Much has happened since then.

@robertbennett2796 2 года назад

Should've replaced the battery

@TKevinBlanc 2 года назад

Wouldn't it be great if GM said "we're so sure of our new USA-made pack that we're going to give affected owners very deep discounts on 2021 Bolts." And then followed through.

@desiv1170 2 года назад

GM: Hey, that's a great idea ... well, other than that last part.. about following through... Other than that, let's do it!! :-) Sorry... As a 2017 Bolt owner, I am waiting to see how this plays out for me. Fingers crossed...

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

They are doing this for *some* Bolt owners, but you do have to contact them and request a buy back. However, so far, it is very much a case by case situation. I think a lot of Bolt owners would be quite happy if their 2017-2019 Bolt batteries got replaced with the current 65kwh USA made batteries. They could even software limit them to 60kwh if they really wanted to, which would allow the car to perform the same as it did when new while also substantially improving the reliability of the battery due to the additional buffer. I think the ultimate deciding factors will be 1) cost and 2) material/battery availability.

@hoosierdaddy8002 2 года назад

So LG does not bring good things to life ?

@JoeLinux2000 2 года назад

No they produce a lot of untrapped lint with their clothes dryers.

@johnwang9914 2 года назад

I believe GM actually purchases their batteries from another company which is why their 2014 SparkEV had so much more torque than later versions as the battery company they were using went out of business.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Yes, I believe the 2014 Sparks used batteries from a company called A123, and they did go out of business. I believe the Sparks after that used LG batteries, as did the Volt and the Bolt.

@rob-roybeattie8436 2 года назад

all vehicles have some form of dangerous fuel to drive them down the road. having a separate garage from your home is just a smart move.[take it from a mechanic] we dont live in a little tyke's world, you have to protect yourself.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

This is true, but I think the difference in the cases specific to lithium batteries is that they don't require any external input in order to catch fire. Gasoline is highly flammable, but it cannot start fire on its own. It requires the correct air/fuel mixture as well as a pretty significant heat source in order to ignite (i.e. an open flame or a spark). Lithium batteries pretty much contain everything they need to catch fire on their own. That being said, there is still plenty of other stuff on an ICE or electric vehicle that could burn the car and its surroundings to the ground, but aside from a few outlying cases (like the Ford brake pressure switch disaster), those issues are usually pretty well dealt with.

@juliancrooks3031 2 года назад

Just rename it the firebird as it just keeps burning

@bardrick4220 2 года назад

I still think the best solution is park&charge outside, and just stop worrying about it! . . .

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

Parking and charging outside may reduce this risk of your car burning your house down, but it does not reduce the risk of your car burning itself down and potentially damaging things around it. Lithium batteries burn quite hot, as do vehicles when they are fully engulfed in flames, so even things that are not "close" can be damaged. I do always park my car outside, but it sits in the driveway with 4 other vehicles and trees on either side. Even if I parked it in the street, it's still quite close to trees and bushes that could easily burn, especially given that it is summer and quite dry. Parking outside also creates other inconveniences, such as getting into a baking hot car every time in the summer, paint and interior damage from the sun/heat, as well as dealing with a frozen car in the winter. It's far from ideal and far from a "solution" in my opinion.

@bardrick4220 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 I don't have a garage, so all these things are daily life, and you also need to consider the statistical likelihood of a fire; IMHO it's not worth the stress of worrying about it. Just follow the precautions, keep up your fire insurance and forget about it . . .

@JoeLinux2000 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 I'm familiar with a lady who has a Volt. Parking it outside to charge would be extremely inconvenient.

@curtbecker-rockhopperbroom44 2 года назад

I'm thinking the BYD "Blade battery" will eventually become the safe choice for most EV companies. Too, bad the US government is do 'down on BYD', cuz US citizens will be the losers. (I bet even the 4680 tabless will not be immune to thermal runaway defects.)

@rgmichel 2 года назад

30 minutes!

@HAASgoggles 2 года назад

Sound like the Samsung note issue

@moebees3060 2 года назад

If you own a Tesla, why the hell would you buy a bolt?

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I bought the Bolt before the Tesla, the Bolt works just as well for my daily commute as the Tesla, and the Bolt cost over $20k less to buy than the Tesla. I can also haul more cargo in the Bolt than the Tesla.

@rickkay9548 2 года назад

Sad news, but EV fires are far less likely than ice cars. Even with this design flaw.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

In general, this is definitely true.

@CrustyCrip 2 года назад

True. But EV fires are harder to extinguish.

@nfoleg 2 года назад

Chevrolet Bolt EV is nuisance/compliance car for GM. They lose money on these cars. THIRD battery recall - no surprises here.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

The Bolt was built from scratch to be an EV. Definitely not a compliance car.

@moebees3060 2 года назад

Looks like GM is trying to kill EVs again.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

I don’t think that GM intentionally installed self-combusting batteries in the Bolt, and although their response to the problem is not as good as it could have been, it definitely doesn’t look to be an effort to kill off their EVs. They are doing just as well/poorly as other manufacturers have done in the same situation unfortunately.

@chaplieval 2 года назад

Кто б ещё перевёл, о чём ты говоришь, понятно о Болте, ну а о чём? Похоже о важном, но чём? Болты есть и России.

@michael47lamb 2 года назад

Everyone better get ready for more burning Bolts. GM's "final solution" is at best a brandade. A really cheap brandade. Typical of GM "customer support." Money first, always.

@johncahill3644 2 года назад

As people buy GM and other "Tesla killers", they're going to come to a new appreciation of Tesla. I'm curious to see how the Ford F-150 fares...in range, battery maintenance and service life. I don't personally think GM will survive much beyond this decade, I wouldn't be surprised if Ford and VW successfully transition to BEV's although I doubt they'll ever see the profit margins Tesla has. Things are starting to get exciting!

@scharkalvin 2 года назад

I would have demanded that they give me a FREE loner vehicle (any kind) until the problem was fixed.

@wrenchingfool5284 2 года назад

As I said, I did ask them for this, and they were very clear that is not an option.

@scharkalvin 2 года назад

@@wrenchingfool5284 GM SUCKS. Won't be buying any vehicles from them. Not sure about FORD, We're very happy with our Dodge Carivan, maybe Crysler will make an EV. There is also VW, but I still remember dieselgate. Tesla is my first choice, but they are getting more expensive and have a long wait list!