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GM's Super Cruise vs. Tesla's Full Self Driving *2024* 

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@jdav2507
@jdav2507 4 месяца назад
The Chevy only works on the freeway, so what are we comparing here? As a life long chevy fan, this is very disappointing. Tesla wins, it's not even close...
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
Correct. As of right now…hopefully they eventually bring it to city streets but we’ll see
@Aegisx5
@Aegisx5 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech The main problem is, that functionality that they're working on will require expensive LiDAR that most of their new vehicles will have only as an expensive option + subscription, and none of their current vehicles are capable of adding. So even if the software was ready today, they'd still be way behind.
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp 4 месяца назад
Well, I d rather have a law preventing unassisted driving in the streets. Freeway is easier and safer. Who knows what people will do if they can take a nap whenever they want.
@ProTechShawn
@ProTechShawn 3 месяца назад
It actually does activate on "some" non highway roads. On my way to work, in Jax, FL, I encounter various stints where it's available on normal streets. I choose to not have it activated though because on those roads I encounter various red lights so it's easier for me to take control. I've used various forms of semi self driving in Hyundai, Genesis, Kia, Honda, Lincoln, Nissan, Acura, and Mazda and this is BY FAR the smoothest experience; especially when a car cuts in front of you or moves out of your way and there's another car in front of them. The transition from one car to the next is unmatched in my opinion; and I drive a heavy Sierra 1500.
@blublum7916
@blublum7916 3 месяца назад
He does state this, and I do agree. 20:55
@robertuhe413
@robertuhe413 4 месяца назад
Next, please compare a rotary phone with an iPhone, lol
@danypell2517
@danypell2517 4 месяца назад
And can you believe those are like 2024 rotary phones... Building the wrong things comlpetely
@arieltccc5277
@arieltccc5277 4 месяца назад
And someone will prefer the rotary phones due to the feeling and sound of it!
@GamerBoyRobby
@GamerBoyRobby 4 месяца назад
​@arieltccc5277 not enough to stop the phone from becoming irrelivant
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
😂
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
Bad analogy. Supercruise support 750,000 miles of roads in America. On *those* *roads* it does a better/safer job than FSD.
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 месяца назад
The coming soon adaptive cruise control will include lane centering from Chevy et all
@shdmd2118
@shdmd2118 4 месяца назад
It’s like Tesla is Michael Jordan vs a child
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
Michael Jordan that makes *mistakes* in any busy big city. FSD requires 100 percent supervision. What a let down .
@fookschool
@fookschool 4 месяца назад
​@@DerekDavis213 super cruise is a joke. It literally holds the lane....that is it. Tesla is 10x better. I have a Tesla with the version 1 made by mobileye and even that blows the super cruise away.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@fookschool You are right, FSD is great 95 percent of the time. But it still makes mistakes on any challenging drive. FSD is a simple Level 2 assistant. Level 5 is years away.
@fookschool
@fookschool 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 I have 2 coworkers that use it all the time(both model y's) and never need to assist it. It takes A LOT to get above their capabilities with really any version above 12.0
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@fookschool It does not take a LOT. Just drive in any *busy* *big* *city* . During rush hour, at night, or in the rain. FSD will need human assistance, badly.
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 месяца назад
I suggest to many people to travel in an EV with Self Driving for summer holidays rather than fly. (Local airline is on strike today) As long as you are not going over water, and driving let's you experience the journey not the destination.
@chicagomanny2574
@chicagomanny2574 4 месяца назад
Tesla has the best self driving software in the game hands down
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
Yes FSD is the best, without a doubt. The problem is that FSD is nowhere even close to a human driver. FSD still needs help on any challenging drive.
@chicagomanny2574
@chicagomanny2574 4 месяца назад
Idk I've watched tons of fsd vids and they all say it drives like a human and it's just level 3 I think by the time it gets to level five.... like tony soprano would say " forget about it"
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@chicagomanny2574 Level 5 is years away. Today, FSD is a simple minded Level 2 assistant that makes *frequent* mistakes. Nothing like a human driver with human brain and *years* of experience.
@lucadellasciucca967
@lucadellasciucca967 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 Your brain is small!
@lucadellasciucca967
@lucadellasciucca967 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 Moron allert
@primecash144
@primecash144 4 месяца назад
Super Cruise is available on I.C.E vehicles. That is the Super Cruise Win.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
Can you imagine if SuperCruise or FSD were available on the Camry Hybrid? An excellent car with 630 miles of range, and self-driving too? That would be sweet.
@hwillia204
@hwillia204 23 дня назад
Im sorry super cruise is not even close to Telsa Auto Pilot and FSD technology!!! But I am sure Chevy has a nagg alert ust like Lucid and all the others, if you turn your head or eyes! Telsa FSD and Auto pilot will do lane changes without your input etc… AI machine learning not geo fenced crap like waymo (remote controlled as well). Very basic lane control, Telsa allows you to see cars, trucks and motorcycylist and more visually… auto land change did not work but you give a good story about long distance driving. You are narrating what the car is doing but we don’t see the car performing what you are speaking about… Come on man!!! See you are turning the steering well as you explaining blue thing on the steering wheel and you are doing the it again with your hands on the steering wheel … you are selling the product that does not do what you are saying… False advertising Bro!!! Supercruise is based off of old technology nothing new but blue and red lights on the steering wheel… auto lane change is not working…LOL!!! Telsa you have 3 modes chill and medium and assertive to do lane change aiutomatically so which one are you in? See you turned the damn steering wheel to hard to break it autopilot you know you can roll the volume button and speed button up to stop the nag also you are causing the nag to occure more by talking and moving your damn head around… Lol! No worries the nag will be gone soon per Elon!
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 23 дня назад
That was a rollercoaster! I’m not selling any products, my guy. Simply showing the two systems. It’s my Model 3 and I use FSD daily. No nag. Hands free. So I’m fully aware it’s the best system out there! Thanks for watching
@Aegisx5
@Aegisx5 4 месяца назад
I agree, there really is no comparison - FSD is far ahead in terms of capability.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
FSD is maybe 97 percent capable. A human driver is 99.99 percent. Do the math.
@lucadellasciucca967
@lucadellasciucca967 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 the small brain guy is telling people to do math! As if he knew what he s talking about xD
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@lucadellasciucca967 The fan boi keeps insisting that Level 2 FSD is a miracle. what a joke
@lucadellasciucca967
@lucadellasciucca967 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 You re confusing the capability of the system with the level of responsability taken by the company developing it, my smooth brained friend. If only you did any research! xD Do you even know what a neural network is? lol
@AlternativPerspectiv
@AlternativPerspectiv 4 месяца назад
So tired of people whining about Tesla having the nag and marking it down against tesla's self driving ability. the nags have 0 to do with the car's ability but are a business decision to appease regulators who made a huge case about tesla just letting ppl sit while the car drove. Even mainstream media put pressure on Tesla calling it unsafe because of not having nags. Ford and GM will switch to FSD anyway, so this debate is moot.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
You are spot on here. Super excited for 12.4 with no nagging.
@catbert7
@catbert7 Месяц назад
More importantly, making people keep their hands on the wheel is the safe approach. Other manufacturer's were wrong for going vision-only and Tesla is wrong about it now too. Reaction time matters.
@BigMeanyVids
@BigMeanyVids 4 месяца назад
Supre Cruise for $300 per year is obnoxious. Especially given how limited it is.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
You do get the first 3 years free. But that’s after paying an up charge to have it on your vehicle in the first place. People act like all GM vehicles just have it
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
But the buggy beta FSD is worth $1200 per year, with mandatory human supervision? what a bad deal.
@VoxelLoop
@VoxelLoop 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 I think it depends on where you use the system. Are you regularly taking a mapped highway to work and back each day? If so, sure, maybe GM's solution is fine for you. Are you regularly on residential streets, unmapped highways, or care more about it driving the 'last mile' as such? Then Tesla's solution will do a lot more for you. I'm limited to the older Autopilot system as I'm in the UK, but even then, I've used this for thousands of highway miles in multiple different countries, I also regularly use it on standard roads on the way to the store and back aside from a few hours I take over such as for turns or roundabouts. Unfortunately GM's solution can't do this right now. Tesla's older system is very limited in turns, as shown in this video, but at least it can be engaged at all for use on roads you know well and understand how it'll perform.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@VoxelLoop RU-vid videos show the sad state of FSD: in big cities, it makes frequent mistakes. For example: Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Toronto. FSD is nothing like a human driver. FSD is a Level 2 assistant, nothing more.
@rhuisjes02
@rhuisjes02 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213Yeah….sure. Watch the latest software version please
@halifaxstar
@halifaxstar 4 месяца назад
“We are back engaged after that bird unfortunately passed” is not something I was excepting to hear in this video 😆
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
🕊️ Fly high 🥲
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@ericgregori
@ericgregori 4 месяца назад
The difference between the HD map-based architecture and the AI architecture is night and day. Blues Cruise and SuperCruise are toys compared to FSD.
@blessguy5330
@blessguy5330 4 месяца назад
And Mercedes
@DarkAttack14
@DarkAttack14 2 месяца назад
Super cruise won't drive you into the side of a train because it thinks it's a semi truck ;)
@ericgregori
@ericgregori 2 месяца назад
@@DarkAttack14 How do you know? GM told Car and Driver it has reported to NHTSA "a handful of crashes involving Super Cruise-equipped vehicles.
@SAT1337
@SAT1337 Месяц назад
FSD struggles with lane ending on highways. Fails so often
@blessguy5330
@blessguy5330 Месяц назад
@@SAT1337 yeah no It doesn’t on 12.5
@joewilder
@joewilder 4 месяца назад
Good review. I've watched a couple of Whole Mars FSD tests. They were on the streets where I live and I was able to get where FSD had ingenious route planning. It's a very difficult area with a lot of traffic.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
FSD in busy big cities continues to require *interventions* . For example: NYC, Toronto, Chicago, Los Angeles.
@asteinmetz
@asteinmetz 4 месяца назад
This is just a weird take. The review makes accurate statements but the editorializing makes them seem very comparable except for the "little things." Meaning every road except highways. As to Tesla's camera-only approach (no ultrasonic), it remains to be seen whether it's a "con." Tesla owners lamented the removal of the ultrasonic sensors in newer models but Tesla believes they are superfluous. So far, Tesla is right. Where they might matter are in tight parking situations, but certainly not on the highway.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
What did you gather is my “take” ?
@franklong6269
@franklong6269 4 часа назад
Autosteer will take sharp curves, it will slow down the car for the sharp turns. I use it all the time, and so I am familiar with what it can or can't do
@karlo407
@karlo407 3 месяца назад
Didn’t see an auto lane change with Super Cruise. Maybe the feature was turned off in settings?? I recently got an Acadia with Super Cruise. Using it, and even on a straightaway, the steering wheel jitters back and forth. Did yours? The amount is small. When I take over and manually jitter it that little, there’s no real directional effect.
@sansinutube
@sansinutube 16 дней назад
Is yours AT4? I have seen some reviews that say that AT4 steering jitters during SuperCruising because of the beefy tires.
@franklong6269
@franklong6269 4 часа назад
There's no comparison, Supercruise is a dinosaur compared to Tesla's FSD.
@michaelshort8127
@michaelshort8127 3 месяца назад
Even though FSD has eliminated the "nag" feature, you can't drive with sunglasses. That's got to make drives in sunny weather uncomfortable. The insistence on cameras for every function, say not using infrared for face monitoring, leads to a less than optimal solution.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
Sure it definitely can. I’m not a sunglasses person, never have been, but I can see how annoying it could be for some
@michaelshort8127
@michaelshort8127 3 месяца назад
Tesla even says that you can’t wear sunglasses. There is no way you see eye behind sunglasses with visible light. That is why Super Cruise uses six infrared LED emitters mounted in equal number on either side of the light bar at the top of the steering wheel.
@officerdailey
@officerdailey 4 месяца назад
Supercruise is like an autopilot, where as FSD is like a co-pilot. Very different systems. What Supercruise does, it does very well. FSD is considerably more versatile, but it doesn't have the same level of polish. Supercruise isn't limited to highways, just mapped roads, which are mostly highways at this point, but there are a few main roads by me that are also mapped. The big comparison comes down to the vehicles as a whole though. The wife and I are big fans of Musk, SpaceX, and even the tech of Tesla, but we find Tesla vehicles to be exclusively designed for a particular consumer, which isn't us. We've no interest in making a statement. We just want a normal car, with intuitive and proven controls and layout, that is powered by electricity.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
_We just want a normal car, with intuitive and proven controls and layout_ Tesla has an excellent electric power train, and FSD has improved a lot with version 12. But Tesla does not have a nice dashboard and intuitive controls like a Honda or Toyota for example. Tesla has the iPad screen, and now they have removed the Turn Signal Stalk.
@Riverrain123
@Riverrain123 3 месяца назад
tesla for the win!
@brunoheggli2888
@brunoheggli2888 3 месяца назад
What you win?
@Jetter638
@Jetter638 4 месяца назад
With recent 50% price cuts (April '24), Tesla FSD now cost $8,000 for outright purchase or alternatively $99/mo or $1,200 yr vs Chev Cruise $2,700. So Tesla's FSD solution is nearly 3X the price. Got it. Maybe Tesla will slash the price again as they do appear to be getting desperate lately....with all of their price slashing on cars and now FSD.
@thatdude5328
@thatdude5328 4 месяца назад
What i learned from this as a tesla owner is that the nags are truly unnecessary. If a dumber car can operate without nags youd think Teslas can.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
The nags were added by Tesla to satisfy government regulators. They’re entirely unnecessary and will be removed soon
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech _They’re entirely unnecessary and will be removed soon_ In v12.4, which is already rolling out.
@teslarex
@teslarex 4 месяца назад
FSD responds appropriately to pedestrians, freeway onramp signal, construction, parking lots and soon hand gestures.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
But FSD cannot read most signs: DO NOT ENTER ROAD CLOSED CROSS TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP Just to name a few. FSD also has problems in multi-level parking structures, and avoiding potholes or broken glass in the road. FSD also does not move to the side of the road for Police or Ambulance with their sirens on.
@rambo4war
@rambo4war 4 месяца назад
I don’t even need coordinates to turn in on FSD on the city streets. No command, no guidance, just activate and it goes. Of course giving it an endpoint helps prevent being fettered endlessly until the battery is depleted.
@VoxelLoop
@VoxelLoop 4 месяца назад
I'll be honest, I kind of like you can engage it without a route. Like you said, it can just go wherever it pleases, sounds like a challenge I'd see on RU-vid, 'Where will my Tesla take me?'. :)
@vermontsownboy6957
@vermontsownboy6957 4 месяца назад
Your 2024 Model 3 has HW 4 which operates only in emulation mode. Wait till the full optimized FSD reaches HW4 Tesla EVs.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
True! 😛
@JoseHernandez-kb5rn
@JoseHernandez-kb5rn 4 месяца назад
I have the bolt euv. Great car!! I also just got the model y and I have to say. I will not be driving the bolt anymore. Software is much better on the model y. The autopilot and fsd feature are awesome.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
That was my exact experience. I had a Bolt EUV for 3 years and switched… I could not go back to the Bolt. As much as I loved it then
@andrerodriguez7603
@andrerodriguez7603 4 месяца назад
I wish you had shown FSD on city streets to, that’s where FSD really shines also. Thank you for the comparison. I now won’t believe Mary Barra of GM when she says ‘Super Cruise’ is a better system than Tesla’s.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I have quite a few other FSD videos on city streets. I didn’t want to do that in this video since super cruise can’t do it
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
You won't believe Mary Barra of GM, but you will believe Elon? Elan said in 2019: "1 million robotaxis by 2020" Elan said in 2016: "Soon FSD will drive from LA to New York, automatically" .
@andrerodriguez7603
@andrerodriguez7603 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 well, Musk’s time line is always late for his production on things they make. But Mary Barra has consistently lied about everything. She talks likes a politician, when interviewed always using double talk. There were supposed to be like thirty different EV models out by 2025, and so many promises. I trust Musk over her any day. At least when he talks it’s transparent.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@andrerodriguez7603 Yes, his talk is transparently PR and fantasy, for the most part.
@andrerodriguez7603
@andrerodriguez7603 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 I could say exactly the same thing for Mary Barra of GM. Maybe that’s why they have a working relationship together. They both spout fantasyland gibberish. Probably best to stick to buying good old gas cars with old technology. EVs don’t have much of a future unless they can make a battery break through in charging speed, and distance. Good luck with that.
@lifequest7453
@lifequest7453 20 дней назад
I think you missed something. You commented that Super cruise cannot adjust at low speeds but Toyota can. Chevy had this back in 2017, I think its called CCS. It is basically a addition to Cruise control, you still have to drive but the speed is regulated through the car. On the highway is someone pulls in front of you and is going slower, the car will slow and even brake. If that car pulls out of your way, the car will see the road clear and resume the speed it was set at. If you come to a stop I think it will cut off on CCS but Toyotas version can be reinitiated and the car will pick up speed from a stop on its own. CCS has to be brought back up to speed then put back on cruise to reinitiate it. GM's version is pretty much basic and I think it was bought from another Tech company. I really don't expect GM to catch up to Tesla, actually I expect GM to rent rights to use the Tesla version in their cars.
@R56Cooper
@R56Cooper 4 месяца назад
Looking forward to your FSD 12.4 video!🎉
@calebbarry3977
@calebbarry3977 4 месяца назад
YESS 12.4 removes the steering wheel nag and it’s coming soon! (This week)
@R56Cooper
@R56Cooper 4 месяца назад
@@calebbarry3977 that's great news! Very much looking forward to the videos review
@mrcaz9164
@mrcaz9164 Месяц назад
You really need to do this with the update (Summer 2024), huge game changer! Of course I'm talking Tesla.
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 3 месяца назад
Well I waited for the GM Equinox EV to come out, but got tired of waiting. So I own the Tesla Model Y LR and enjoy all the features - and has some features that the Equinox does not provide. I did try the FREE 30 day trial of FSD version12.3..6 and was interesting, got me to my destinations, but did do a few things I did not like. FSD accelerates too quickly from intersections to get to speed limits which I didn't care for. Also the FSD would do allot of hesitations with shadows which was unnecessary. I decided not to purchase FSD at 99 dollars a month at this time because of just the short local trips I do. I feel I do not need this premium feature. Auto Pilot or Cruise control are adequate for me and they are both FREE with the vehicle and I hardly need or use these. Still with all that said above about FSD, it is still amazing what the feature can drive on any road or highway, in any town or city. Just select the destination, enable FSD, and it will take me directly to that destination. Of the two vehicles, I will still take my Tesla Model Y over the Equinox. I like the simpler interior design. So you don't have all the knobs and buttons, I do not miss them at all. If I don't remember where something is on the Display, I just use Voice Control and does the function I request. Thanks for the video.
@rickkay9548
@rickkay9548 3 месяца назад
This is absolutely mind blowing. I can understand why Tesla has to wheel nag since it does so much more than any other system in basically any conditions in any location. I am still in shock at how insane the Model 3 is in what it can do. I thought my ultra-cruise was cool, but obviously I was wrong lol.
@John101B
@John101B 2 месяца назад
Furthermore, the version of FSD Tesla is about to release now is hands free with restriction (Sunglass, etc). Apparently, monitoring works well. What most non-Tesla fans don't get, is that Tesla is a evolving car. What they see now is probably what they are not going to see a year from now. And this applies to all EXISTING cars, not just the new ones. My Tesla is now 2.5 years old, and I'm still excited to get new software updates that make difference to my usecases.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 2 месяца назад
@John101B very true. You just don’t get that on other brands
@sansinutube
@sansinutube 16 дней назад
Did you get a chance to compare these 2 hands-free systems to the ones from Ford, BMW, MB or Nissan?
@U2B_Viewer
@U2B_Viewer 4 месяца назад
16:10 if you forget your sunglasses and it's a sunny day and your squinting your eyes, but you can safely see to drive 🚫 If you drive with your seat back anymore than in an upright position even though you can still safely drive in that position 🚫 If you don't jerk off the steering wheel enough to make it satisfied 🚫 I can keep giving more examples but I'll let the other people fill in the blanks below 👇
@BeachriderUSA
@BeachriderUSA 24 дня назад
I have used SuperCruise on congested parkways and Interstates. It works fine.
@테슬라투더문
@테슬라투더문 4 месяца назад
그냥 선만 따라가는거야...그 이외의 상황에서 아무것도 못해...오히려...맡겼다간 사람 목숨 해친다.
@catbert7
@catbert7 Месяц назад
I disagree. I don't think it's a good idea to let the user turn the wheel without disengaging. It makes it less clear when the car is in control. I also don't like that Tesla switched to camera-only. This is less safe. Drivers should always have their hands on the wheel, until it's truly robotaxi-level. Reaction-time is huge in avoiding accidents. Also, it's super easy to defeat the vision system. You can just hold your phone past the wheel and the camera can't see it...
@MetzTech
@MetzTech Месяц назад
The indicator light helps with understanding when the car is in control though
@StoneEdwards
@StoneEdwards 25 дней назад
I had a Chevy Bolt EUV with Super Cruise and it does really stink when you leave a mapped area and it just shuts off. I had a couple times where there was some minor construction that altered where exactly the highway was and I was unable to use SC on those stretches for months until they updated the mapping. Then there were times where it would just stop working with no feed back on why. Have a Tesla Model 3 now and in that regard I'm much happier.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 25 дней назад
Agreed
@pauldbeer
@pauldbeer 4 месяца назад
Well, isn't it essential to be able to use it anywhere? Thus the "super cruise" fail in principle?? Its only an assistent, not a driver. The "attention" required by FSD is legislated and required by the authorities and not a system issue, right? If not "forced" to engage then surely FSD should be able to not "bug" the driver all the time, or not?
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
Actually, FSD v12.4, which is rolling out now, *doesn't* bug the driver all the time, or ever; as long as you have the internal camera and it can see your eyes.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@BigBen621 Tell us, besides changes to the nag system, what *specifically* does 12.4 improve over the current 12.3.6 software. Thank you.
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 I have no idea. Tesla claimed a "5 to 10x improvement in miles per intervention", but that remains to be seen.
@Jetter638
@Jetter638 4 месяца назад
Is Telsa's FSD really better....I guess it depends on your definition. According to a recent analysis by The Washington Post of data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) that discovered 736 crashes since 2019 in the United States involving Teslas driven on Autopilot. Tesla vehicles driven in Autopilot or “full self-driving mode” have been involved in far more accidents - including those resulting in at least 17 deaths and many serious injuries - than previously reported.
@shdmd2118
@shdmd2118 4 месяца назад
Nice video I would like your next video to compare Porsche and a Golf Cart!!
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
And Tesla is the golf cart?
@shdmd2118
@shdmd2118 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 yes, to a moron Tesla would be the golf cart
@DeeAy09
@DeeAy09 4 месяца назад
Great non biased video
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
Agreed. Mr Metz is very honest about FSD, the good and the bad.
@bradleyelacombe
@bradleyelacombe 26 дней назад
I'm on 12.3.6 looking forward to cabin camera only FSD
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 25 дней назад
It’s the best
@테슬라투더문
@테슬라투더문 4 месяца назад
공짜로...쓰라하면 직선 도로에서는 쓰겠다.
@DisturbedBurger
@DisturbedBurger 5 дней назад
Needs chicken scanner.
@ricardonogueira6473
@ricardonogueira6473 3 месяца назад
The Model Y struggles in traffic; it is not smooth and does not maintain a close distance from the vehicles ahead of it.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
My model 3 is great in traffic, but it does stay pretty far back. Some people view that as the safe way, not my preference so I just give the accelerator a little tap to move up a bit
@chadd6858
@chadd6858 4 месяца назад
Have you been able to locate where in the equinox EV's computer module is located? In the EUV it takes up half the dpare wheel area... really curious where its at in the equinox EV.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I didn’t look for it. Next time I get my hands on one I will
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 месяца назад
You need to setup Supercruise to auto lane change
@mattl6689
@mattl6689 3 месяца назад
its surprising how many ppl make videos with basic errors. Here is a video if super cruise in stop and go traffic..... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0rusHHOUzZg.html I agree full FSD is better but at lest accurately portray the alternative. You also have to activate the auto lane changes in the settings for it to work probably should have checked that too.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
What exactly is the error?
@mattl6689
@mattl6689 3 месяца назад
@@MetzTech quote “super cruise does not work below 25 mph”
@VoxelLoop
@VoxelLoop 4 месяца назад
Totally agree on questioning how people get AP strikes! I'm in Europe so I don't have FSD Beta, but we still have the vision based monitoring and the same 'Pay attention to the road' warning, but I've never once in 5 years of ownership had a forced disengagement. The car gives you endless warnings, both visual and audible, and yet somehow people complain that it only gave them all that 3 or 5 times on different days and believe they were wrongfully suspended from using the system for a while? I have no idea what people are doing but it sounds like they're delusional.
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 месяца назад
Fsd drives like a Tesla driver, go figure
@DLuxProductions
@DLuxProductions 3 месяца назад
I just watched and commented on you "putting autopark to the test" video and wanted to see what other content you have. After watching this, it's amazing to see how far ahead Tesla is from the competition. I hate that USS has been removed but I'm hoping with enough practice, Tesla Vision becomes even better than USS was.
@DarkAttack14
@DarkAttack14 2 месяца назад
Tesla just purchases a ton of luminar lidar, so they might actually have finally realized how shitty vision only based self driving is. Luminar had 10% of it's revenue this year so far come from tesla purchases ;)
@randycarlson
@randycarlson 4 месяца назад
Why didn't you talk more about FSD's ability to navigate to a destination, including highway and city streets??
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I mentioned that, but I was trying to directly compare it to super cruise
@mutantcar
@mutantcar 2 месяца назад
Pretending not to be a fanboi
@phoneyt7224
@phoneyt7224 3 месяца назад
Tesla system is superior by 10×
@Jetter638
@Jetter638 4 месяца назад
Now remind me how much Tesla's "Full Self Driving" is vs Chevy's SuperCruise?
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I stated how much in the video! I think the extra $75/month or so is worth the added functionality
@Jetter638
@Jetter638 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech It's actually $99/mo ($1,200/year). now given the recent reduction from $199/mo. At $1,200/year it's definitely not worth it from my perspective.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I was saying super cruise is $25/month after the first few years. So paying an additional $75 a month to get to the cost of FSD is worth it for the additional functionality
@tylercampbell6365
@tylercampbell6365 2 месяца назад
Tesla are boring on the inside.. Interior sucks
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 2 месяца назад
Minimalist. A lot of people prefer it.
@teslarex
@teslarex 4 месяца назад
FSD steering wheel nag about to be gone with v12.4 as long as camera can verify driver attention.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
Correct
@mutantcar
@mutantcar 2 месяца назад
Pretty big if
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 2 месяца назад
What’s the big if?
@mutantcar
@mutantcar 2 месяца назад
​@@MetzTech'if' the camera can verify driver attention.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 2 месяца назад
My experience has been fine
@FoundingFathersUSA
@FoundingFathersUSA 3 месяца назад
Tesla FSD is in a category of its own. Regarding the next tier, I have a 2023 Subaru which has cruise control which is similar to but slightly inferior to Super Cruise because Super Cruise, where it has mapping, handles any curve but Subaru cruise control has no map at all and just fails to handle sharp turns.
@quboguo2360
@quboguo2360 3 месяца назад
Super Cruise - $2200 + $25/mo after 3 years Basic Autopilot - Free FSD - $100/mo Super Cruise is a nice supplemental tool for commute but it’s not exactly cheap. It’s a bit better than free autopilot but a lot more limited than FSD.
@medicffsc
@medicffsc 2 месяца назад
Yeah comparing a auto pilot cruise control vs Tesla's auto drive are 2 different things and not comparable at all, but you do a ok job comparing apples to oranges. It's a super cruise for when you would normally use your cruise control that's all.
@AlternativPerspectiv
@AlternativPerspectiv 4 месяца назад
So when it disengages to let you change lanes, Blue Cruise lets you manouvre and then you let go... that means for a second or 2 the car has no one in control during the transition? The blue light clearly show Cruise is off for that duration AND your hands are not on the wheel.
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp 4 месяца назад
Yeah exactly…🤫
@tslaryrad
@tslaryrad 3 месяца назад
All you need to do with Tesla vs GM is signal to change lanes, signal back over with just basic autopilot. Easier and better than guessing is GM driving or us looking at a color lol. Apples to oranges comparison here Tesla autopilot already way better than GM, FSD next level
@Minuslife1
@Minuslife1 2 месяца назад
GM doesn't have the technology. I created the FSD through a conversation with Adrian😂. No one's going to beat Tesla😊
@Booleanzero
@Booleanzero 3 месяца назад
Now that Tesla is hands free, this is embarrassing. No wonder GM can't stay in business without tax payer support that should be going to education and healthcare.
@dvoglavaazdaja
@dvoglavaazdaja 3 месяца назад
Tesla rules!
@martinboucher6225
@martinboucher6225 12 дней назад
Wich one is the most quiet on the road?(sound)
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 11 дней назад
Model 3 easily
@martinboucher6225
@martinboucher6225 11 дней назад
@@MetzTech ok! Thank you
@Jetter638
@Jetter638 4 месяца назад
It seemed like the first time you used SuperCruise, it wouldn't change lanes because there was traffic coming up on your left side and also it's possible that it won't make the change lane change immediately by itself or even when you click the blinker to initiate the change.
@Aphos-yw9wx
@Aphos-yw9wx 3 месяца назад
Trash
@paulphillips3783
@paulphillips3783 4 месяца назад
FSD 12.4 vs Xiaomi SU7 self drive next please :D (Don't forget the fire extinguisher for the latter) Great video -cheers
@LR-je1wx
@LR-je1wx 4 месяца назад
very cool FSD W
@alexanderbeck5998
@alexanderbeck5998 3 месяца назад
Well now FSDS is now hands free as well
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
Yes it is now!
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 4 месяца назад
~4:40 Knows to stay back 200 feet from trucks and ~? Does Tesla do that? Betting it does.
@Lonestar101
@Lonestar101 2 месяца назад
Great review. You are the first reviewer that I've found who answered the question, does Super Cruise read and adjust to speed limit signs? (It does not read signs, unfortunately). Maybe that's something that will come in future versions.
@Zripas
@Zripas 2 месяца назад
Which is weird as even my cheap Ford Focus does it which isn't even promotes its system that much, yet it basically does everything this magical super cruise does, and little bit better.
@johnlong6329
@johnlong6329 4 месяца назад
Considering that super cruise uses premapped highways, it makes me wonder if it will perform better than tesla fsd in suboptimal conditions like snow/night. Would be interesting to see how it performs after this winter.
@CanisoGaming
@CanisoGaming 4 месяца назад
Spoiler alert, it will never perform not even at 10% of what Tesla FSD can do. Premapped roads autonomous driving is NOT the optimal approach, Tesla has it very much right with their vision approach
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@CanisoGaming Spoiler Alert Part 2: FSD requires *100* *percent* human supervision. It cannot drive in busy big cities alone. FSD is a Level 2 assistant.
@DevinOlsen
@DevinOlsen 4 месяца назад
@@DerekDavis213 What are you trying to say here? FSD is 100% the best at what it does, the only thing that competes with it is Waymo, but they're a different beast entirely. For consumer products, Tesla's FSD blows everyone else out of the water. Supercruise is glorfied cruise control, and that's it. FSD is so much more than that, and it'll just keep getting better.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@DevinOlsen Nobody cares if FSD is the best out of a bunch of *incapable* self driving systems. FSD cannot be trusted, it requires 100% human supervision. That's all that matters here. The promise of Self-Driving has not been fulfilled.
@lucadellasciucca967
@lucadellasciucca967 4 месяца назад
Being smart is better then having good perception.
@tko9624
@tko9624 4 месяца назад
I don't see the point here.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
Information
@Dave_Outside
@Dave_Outside 2 месяца назад
I use FSD pretty much daily. I do Uber and I use it with Uber lol. People are continuously impressed. But it still has some issues. I don’t like the way it merges onto the highway. Accelerates too fast after making a turn. Breaks too hard sometimes at a yellow light. Sometimes definitely gets confused as to what lane to be in. But it’s 90% good you just have to watch it.
@Zripas
@Zripas 2 месяца назад
I think most issues you mentioned here should be resolved with 12.4.2 version
@guy7622
@guy7622 3 месяца назад
I've used FSD on the hwy and it worked well. It's new to me and I struggled to trust it. Honestly, it worked great. Seemed to change lanes A LOT. Sometimes it would get in the passing lane without moving back to the right lane. Great when traffic came to a stop suddenly. Also took the exit when I would have missed it. Tesla FSD was great for me.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
You can change the lane changes to minimal. Might help!
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 месяца назад
Fsd vs Ultra Cruise
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
I heard they’re just rolling that into super cruise
@davidgordon3744
@davidgordon3744 4 месяца назад
Just used FSD on a 1400 mile trip, and I think I drove for maybe 10 or less miles of it. Cant wait for the next update that tesla employees currently have, where you can stay hands off the wheel while using it.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
You and me both, David! Thanks for sharing your experience
@tyronejones1435
@tyronejones1435 4 месяца назад
You have to select lane change and auto lane change in the menu for super cruise. Then when you super cruise it will do what you have given it permission to do.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
The weird part is that it worked for me earlier in the drive and not later… I didn’t change anything
@CharityRichal
@CharityRichal 4 месяца назад
Hello, how can I contact you?
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
Instagram
@CharityRichal
@CharityRichal 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech OK, I have sent you a message.
@markfitzpatrick6692
@markfitzpatrick6692 4 месяца назад
Super cruise doesn’t fall apart it does what it was made for. I don’t want city street auto mation. Autopilot is not free you buy it with the car
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 4 месяца назад
Autopoilot comes with the car all teslas have it fsd is the one you buy or subscribe to
@andrewfranklin7087
@andrewfranklin7087 4 месяца назад
Autopilot is free. I didn’t have to pay extra for it when I got my Tesla model 3.
@markfitzpatrick6692
@markfitzpatrick6692 Месяц назад
@@andrewfranklin7087 you didn’t pay extra I never said that
@andrewfranklin7087
@andrewfranklin7087 Месяц назад
@@markfitzpatrick6692 Not sure what you mean Mark? When I bought the car, Autopilot came enabled for free.
@1nteract1ve
@1nteract1ve Месяц назад
So glad I watched this video. On the surface, Super Cruise looks great, but the lack of stop-and-go functionality is a dealbreaker for me. I live in Atlanta, so stop-and-go is more valuable to me than semi-autonomous driving, solely because I would use stop-and-go every day.
@craigzellner4159
@craigzellner4159 25 дней назад
Supercruise does start and stop. Actually it is the adaptive cruise control.
@sansinutube
@sansinutube 16 дней назад
It is called Adaptive Cruise, and it is on all GM vehicles as standard feature, and it works great. SuperCruise, if available, requires Adaptive Cruise to be active.
@mbeliv3763
@mbeliv3763 3 месяца назад
What a waste of time looking at the GM garbage supercruise
@mutantcar
@mutantcar 2 месяца назад
Fanboi central here isn't it!?😂😂😂
@CanisoGaming
@CanisoGaming 4 месяца назад
Ahhh buckle up this is gonna be a funny one 😂
@tommy13965
@tommy13965 4 месяца назад
Have you tried to get that A pillar led area to sit flush with the door led it seems to be 1/4 inch off on the driver side.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
No I haven’t and it drives me crazy. It’s one of the only misalignments in the whole car 😡
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp 4 месяца назад
Do you have to plan out a trip beforehand? Can you direct the Full Driving on the fly?
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
No, and Yes, respectively. You can direct it on the fly from the screen; but if you try to do this while you're moving you'll probably get a "please pay attention to the road" warning. But you can also do it with a voice command. push the right scroll wheel, and say "Take me to Costco in Santee" and you'll be re-routed.
@YoungCEOguy
@YoungCEOguy 4 месяца назад
This is a real ridiculous video.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
Why is that
@YoungCEOguy
@YoungCEOguy 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech Your title is literally ‘comparing fsd with gm super cruise, but in your video you compare autopilot with super cruise. Tesla is on a whole other level in regards to self driving. I don’t understand why you try to compare this.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I used autopilot in the video for like 2 mins lol. The rest is FSD.
@YaseenOweis
@YaseenOweis 4 месяца назад
I hope FSD's speed limit setting improves with 12.4. Right now changing an incorrectly adjusted speed setting is my most frequent intervention with FSD.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I’ve heard that a fair amount! I have only had that happen in one specific spot but it’s pretty annoying. It thinks the speed limit drops to 5 mph when it’s really a 35… not ideal 😅
@jackknife761
@jackknife761 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech not to mention speeding through school zones where the speed limit drops based on either time, or "When children are present". hopefully they can fix those nuance situations soon
@markfitzpatrick6692
@markfitzpatrick6692 4 месяца назад
One thing you should point out is Tesla has had basic autopilot since the model s in 2013. You can’t say Tesla can do this or that better without pointing out it wasn’t always as advanced as it is now. Super cruise will ad features but the main thing is it works on the interstate and that is where most people want it. Fsd you have to pay 12000 or a 200 dollars a month.
@Aegisx5
@Aegisx5 4 месяца назад
GM also charges a subscription for supercruise, which it will be increasing for more advanced features when/if it improves.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
$99 a month
@sPo0dErMan1991
@sPo0dErMan1991 4 месяца назад
FSD is 9,000 to buy it out or 99$ per month
@lucadellasciucca967
@lucadellasciucca967 4 месяца назад
That makes no sense. First off GM is not using an end to end neural network ergo progress is limited to human heuristics. Also what matters is where we are now and how the tech progresses. Supercruise is a toy compared to FSD. Intelligence over perception.
@Haffy1952
@Haffy1952 4 месяца назад
@@sPo0dErMan1991 $8,000
@arjunshiralkar4668
@arjunshiralkar4668 4 месяца назад
Lane change is not free on Tesla
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I put a note on screen about that in my conclusion
@arjunshiralkar4668
@arjunshiralkar4668 4 месяца назад
My bad, commented too early😅
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
I appreciate you 🙏🏻
@TesIaCH
@TesIaCH 3 месяца назад
2 weeks after you uploaded this comparison, fsd is hands free.
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 3 месяца назад
I know. I will be making an update as soon as I get it!
@STEVEMUNCY
@STEVEMUNCY 4 месяца назад
I can’t comment on Super Cruise but I do subscribe to FSD and I may drop it in a few months. For ME FSD has been extremely erratic. Works ok on the Interstate highways but is awful on state highways I frequently travel and I turn it off. It frequently misses speed sign changes and I’ve had bad experiences in construction zones. I have tested it and will not use it for city driving. Speeds through school zones and ignores school busses. Does not see speed bumps reliably. Ever hit speed bumps in a 20 mph zone while the car is going 40mph? Not a pleasant experience. I’ve had it attempt to pass a car going into a blind curve. I’m sure FSD will get better in time, and I will probably test it out again in a future version, but it is definitely NOT full self driving now and requires very close supervision and I just have no need of it in town driving. Basic autopilot however meets almost all my needs and I use it a lot and like it.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
Thanks Steve for your honesty, so many comments these days are from stock pumpers and Fanclub boyz .
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
_I do subscribe to FSD and I may drop it in a few months._ I would too if I'd had your experience. It's well known and acknowledged by Tesla that FSD is better in areas with a large population of Teslas, such as the San Francisco Bay Area and greater Los Angeles. This is because there's much more training data for the NN in these areas, where hundreds of YT videos show drives with no interventions at all. So I'm guessing you're not in one of these areas. The good news is that this means that FSD is capable of this level of performance, given enough training; so all areas of the country will eventually perform at the same level as the areas with a large Tesla population.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
@@BigBen621 So you are implying that if a Tesla owner lives in an area with few other Tesla vehicles, there won't be much training, and therefore FSD won't be at peak performance in that area? And by the way, I can offer a counterexample to that. A *recent* FSD review from a man in Los Angeles said that there are so many interventions there that FSD is practically *unusable* .
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
​@@DerekDavis213 _So you are implying that if a Tesla owner lives in an area with few other Tesla vehicles, there won't be much training, and therefore FSD won't be at peak performance in that area?_ Yup, pretty much. But I'm not implying it, I'm stating it, at least until the training catches up in that area. And you don't have to take my word for it; Elon Musk has stated the exact same thing. I'm surprised you wouldn't already be aware of this. _And by the way, I can offer a counterexample to that._ There you go again with the logical fallacy of confirmation bias, AKA cherry-picking the data-I thought we'd been through this already. You've found *one* review citing numerous interventions, while ignoring 1,600 in the same area that show few if any interventions, let alone disengagements. There could be many reasons for this one bad example, but mis-calibrated cameras is one that comes to mind. In statistics, this would be called an "outlier", and outliers are most often discarded. Interesting that you didn't post a link to this video, so I could verify it for myself-but failing to disclose the data is part and parcel of confirmation bias, so that's no surprise.
@YuenanCao
@YuenanCao 4 месяца назад
Super irritating reflection from Chevy dashboard - bad design
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
At least the Chevy has a dashboard. iPad only is a bad design.
@MXPMYP
@MXPMYP 4 месяца назад
Is that what you call a comparison? 😂
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp
@MatthewThomas-dq7hp 4 месяца назад
Does the Tesla automatically speed up when merging on the freeway? Or adjust if the speed limit changes? Does it read school zones or park zones? Or pedestrian crossings?
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 4 месяца назад
_Does the Tesla automatically speed up when merging on the freeway?_ Yes. _Or adjust if the speed limit changes?_ Yes, although not perfectly. _Does it read school zones_ Yes, if a speed limit is posted. But I don't think it understands "when children are present" or similar. But there's some indication in a school zone near me that at least it doesn't slow down on weekends. _Does it read park zones?_ Not sure what those are. _Or pedestrian crossings?_ If a pedestrian is in or approaching the crossing.
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 4 месяца назад
On the topic of what FSD can *read* - FSD cannot understand signs such as DO NOT ENTER, ROAD CONSTRUCTION, or CROSS TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP. Just to name a few. FSD cannot recognize and avoid potholes, or broken glass in the road. FSD often drives over speed bumps at full speed. Plenty of RU-vid reviews show that. FSD cannot understand Police or Ambulances approaching with sirens on. FSD will not move out of the way .
@ericgregori
@ericgregori 4 месяца назад
Yes, I posted a video of FSD doing this very thing.
@George_Shonia
@George_Shonia 4 месяца назад
Tesla is superior
@Justin-Park
@Justin-Park 4 месяца назад
I saw you driving around town yesterday! Car looks great
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
Were you also in a stealth grey model 3 refresh?
@Justin-Park
@Justin-Park 4 месяца назад
@@MetzTech Haha yes that was me!
@MetzTech
@MetzTech 4 месяца назад
@@Justin-Park Love it! I gave you a little "hell yeah" when i saw you. How did you find the channel?
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