@@vivacristorey4728 Don't support such fraud channel. They spread lies about Hinduism. Someday they will say British were messengers of Christ who came to save us from Hinduism.
Thank you Shefali for opening our eyes. I am a Christian and as a tribute to my ancestors, will be reverting back to Hinduism once I get back to India. Vande Mataram.
I am a konkani gsb from karkala, karnataka (udipi district). Kuldev is in zambaulim, goa and aryadurga, ankola. This story is 100%. The zambaulim temple was in madgaon ( present place where the holy Spirit church) and the ruins of the aryadurga temple is found in the anjadiv islands ( originally called aryadweep islands). Great work Shefali Ma'am.
I'm a Chitrapur saraswat brahmin our ancestors ran frm kashmir to Goa to Karnataka Mangeshi is my Kuldevta i was shocked to hear that was also destroyed 😞
@@nishiketubhayakar5870 GSB bamon and their hypocrisy at its peak. @AAA-ul8rq most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB bamon who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB bamon can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power.
I am a mangalorean konkani christristian, I wanna reconnect with my ancestors of Goa,. 99.9% of the Christian have no idea of their history.. sadly they are not interested either..
Very good talk by Ms. Vaidya. Thank you for putting the facts straight. My ancestors were from Goa. Having faced the brunt of atrocities committed by the portuguese church, they migrated down south to Karnataka for survival. Still in this day and age, we pay a visit to Goa ocaasionally and pay our respects and seek blessings of our Kuladevata. Memories can not be erased. Still awaiting for the church to offer apologies for their terrorist activities against humanity. World over, the church has committed similar atrocities in the name of religion.
@shrinivas Gadiyar can relate to you as even our family is one of them. Our deity is still in Goa Mhalshi. So much attrociries, so much hatred our ancestors had to go through just churns my stomach. And today we have forgotten it all.
What purpose will be served by the Catholic church offering fake apology if its intention is to knight its holocauster footsoldiers and lieutenants ? The Pope of the Vatican has conferred honours upon the Croatian mastermind and kingpin of the holocaust wreaked on hundreds of thousands of Indian Roma Gypsies in Croatia, Bosnia and Slovenia by fanatic Catholics at the behest of the Catholic church in the 20 th century.
Why to apologise? @AAA-ul8rq most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB bamon who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB bamon can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power
I am from Goa and this video is what I was looking for. It really hurts when fellow Indians (some) misunderstand our Goan culture and see it in an unpleasant way.
Yess myself goan I always have this question why they don't teach this things in our history book ....we learn history to learn from it ...nobody even discusses ...Christian never say anything about it because it wil bring bad name to Christianity
My ansistors escaped and settled in Kerala. What a painful ride it must have been to leave everything and migrate to protect dharma. Next generation need to know to learn lessons from history. Thank you for the elaborate work and effort put in.
Unfortunately, current situation seems to be kind of similar to what the portuguese managed to achieve in Goa. Being Hindu seems to be a reason for attracting attention and discrimination.. Ex : RTE act inherently targeting "non-minority" schools only, Interference in Temple management, taking away the offerings made to the deity and using it for all kinds of non-temple causes, Courts actively taking up PILs on matters related to Hindu traditions, festivals and encouraging reform but deferring similar movements in non-majority populations. Looks like we have not learnt from history. This talk should help all right thinking individuals to introspect and draw conclusions from the scary parallels that seem to be emerging. Thanks to Shefali Vaidya ji and Srijan foundation for organizing and sharing this.
Vinayak Gokuldas Kudva There is a tradition in kerala ..were they hurt children with hooks in their skin..after starving them for days..this happens in the pongala festival.. This ritual is a modern rendition of child sacrifice that used to take place before.. And rightfilly the state put a stop this barbaric child abuse..after doctors complained children were coming in with wounds that went septic.. Do u accept child abuse or tradition that condones it..
truthdemon more bullshit propaganda from Hindu haters . You'll do anything to bad mouth Hinduism won't you? Islam and Christianity are the worst religions and Have caused far more genocides and pain globally! Hindusim hasn't caused even one hundredth of the mayhem these two monotheistic cults have!
truthdemon and he talks about government intrusion in temple affairs and discrimination against Hindu run schools. Why did you not address that you Abrahamic ghoul? Instead you started your anti Hindu rant.
it might be part of some atrocity literature selectively compiled and documented by initial colonials.. This kind of literature was used to justify colonial rule over "barbaric natives". Like mentioned in the video, same pattern of sanitizing and eventually secularizing all festivals and rituals.
Akash Sasidharan indianexpress.com/article/india/kerala-prisons-chief-r-sreelekha-minor-boys-attukal-temple-5081667/ Google : pongala trivandrum child abuse.. As far as im concerned their are only two religions in the world .. Those who seek truth to rid ignorance and the other is idiocy.. Which one do u fall into ..considering ur reply to me...
What I don't understand if they know they are converted through these horrible practices and not through their own free will, why can't they convert back. Some of them even know their Hindu last names. What is stopping them? Why not make the bones Inquisitioners turn in their graves...
If we had no self pride, there wouldn't be Hindus in the world today. Every European country became Christian country in 15-50 years. But India is still majority Hindu. Don't yap for the sake of yapping. Give your ancestors some respect for fighting against all odds to preserve our ancient civilization.
most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB bamon who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB bamon can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power
Man it was done by Portuguese or British it is not about Christian. They used religion to conquer people and enslave them. Do u see any such things now?
Had I lived in Palestine, in the days of Jesus of Nazareth, I would have washed his feet, not with my tears, but with my heart's blood! Swami Vivekananda If I, as an Oriental have to worship Jesus of Nazareth, there is only one way, that is, to worship him as God and nothing else Swami Vivekananda BIG Difference between Jesus and politics.
@@itxmeme7143man they did it in the name of Jesus ,do I see anything now off course i studied in a convent nd I was Ill treated my whole life..those bic sisters wud be nothing less than Hitler if there was no law nd order...no bindi, Bangle, kumkum ,payal,flower,if v ever wore kumkum they called us traffic lights..hit if we put mehndi for a special occasion..Christina was a goan teacher she made sure to pick on hindu children she even broke a nose of boy..guess what she called us aaay no addressing with names... Christian children were addressed child...I can go on nd on nd on
Thank you Shefali Vaidya for this excellent talk, recounting history as experienced by Indians. This is a powerful reminder that whether it is the oppression by the Muslims or oppression by the Christians, there is no difference at all. In today's India, we have strong Muslim and Christian lobbies who have once again incentivised NOT being Hindu, and rewarded the convertees. Your talk should serve as a powerful jolt to those people still imagining some sort of secular utopia when India is dominated by these murderous cults.
Daku Potato I agree So it high time us Hindus start doing more social service for our vulnerable Hindus like the dalits who are vulnerable and dehumanized by us Hindu Think ambedkar who publically renounced and denounced HINDUISIM
Che Guevara it's worth noting if a Christian become a Hindu all it means is Christianity got 1 less and HINDUISIM got 1 more however when a Hindu becomes a Christian the difference is HINDUISIM not got 1 more enemy
Most europeans are leaving christianity. Uk 71 percent of millineals(age 16 to 29) are atheist Czech 91 percent are atheist Estonia 81 percent are atheist Sweden 75 percent are atheist Netherlands 72 percent are atheist Hungary 67 are athesit Belgium 65 percent are atheist France 64 percent are atheist Finland 60 percent are atheist Denmark 60 percent are atheist Norway 59 percent are atheist Spain 55 percent are atheist Russia 49 percent are atheist. If you look at the number of people who go to church on sundays it is less than 10 percent (of all population not just millineals) in all of these countries. Bottomline is they are selling you a philosophy that is rejected by the west. www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/christianity-non-christian-europe-young-people-survey-religion?mc_cid=78e2abfee3&mc_eid=b5f1c39cdf
Che Guevara Christianity is no less a predator religion than Islam. It has destroyed pagan cultures and caused many a genocide (Rwandan genocide is the recent one). Both are monotheistic cults. Christianity is more sophisticated at it that's all
Shefali Vaidya, thank you for sharing information. This is the first time I came across genuine account of atrocities done by foreign invaders in Bharat. My father once visited Goa and he heard about this from local people which he told me. Since then I was curious about it. Finally I got the actual account of their horrific destruction in Goa. It's chilling just by listening. We have lot of work ahead of us to repair the damage they have done.
Shefaliji.. I was made to feel inferior because I'm a hindu around the time of 1988. And i went to a convent school wich was the only school in d village. I'm a daughter of a respectable doctor in the village!!! That behaviour of the nuns still kept popping in my mind.. now I have an answer. Thankyou. Thankyou for making me more proud of my heritage.
And so you should. But be clear about what you mean by "Hindu cause". It shouldn't be the neo-xenophobia that is galloping into our society. That was never Hinduism. Don't confuse Hindutva with Hunduism.
Stanley Pinto ohh common burthurt rice bag crying.. u have already sold ur soul to congress and u ppl r still converting our tribal ppl and u r teaching us what we should do
these rice bag communities have converted and radicalized whole of nagaland to a extend that they are now demanding libration from god knows what but still they come to lecture us and call us intolerants and diverted.
@@stanleyvonne the one who can't be of their ancestors can never be of the nation!! You 2nd hand convert don't teach us..what is hindutva and Hinduism Long live hindu resistance!!
In Goa everyone knows about it but nobody speak about it openly ...evn myself been goan hindu ..I cam to know through my grand mother and other old ladies from village ....whatever she said is true ...our many temples got destroyed almost all only one ancient temple surviving and many peopl from karantaka maharashra come in Goa to pay tribute to their family diety ....including Sachin Tendulkar and Lata mageshkar
@@lifearoundwesternghatsnot at all. most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB bamon who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB bamon can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power.
Rice bag is their current modus operandi. Earlier they used to use only violence. Now since violence is out of table, they target poor people through rice bags.
As a Mangalorean, believer in Christ, it was truly shocking, chilling, unbearable and sickening to hear this undeniable truth of destruction, torture, humiliation and atrocities our ancestors faced for centuries all of it sadly in the name of Christ. No amount of apologies and compensation by the Pope of Rome, King or the countrymen of Portugal can ever help forget, forgive or wipe the slate clean.
That Biblical narrative that your referring to was for a particular people, time and place and got nothing to do with portugal or the brits or other invaders occupiers or the land of india. No Christian justifies their conquest with the Biblical history, Secondly that Biblical history is of the Jewish people of Israel not Christians.
@@Sameer-wy7cy in the new Testament, lakhs of Christians were hunted, imprisoned, persecuted, severely tortured burnt alive fed to lions, heads chopped off etc by Romans and the enemies of Christianity, then came the muslims did the same burnt and destroyed churches, killed Christians, converted some and drove out the rest of them out of their lands
@@frankly.speaking tht biblical narrative was literally followed untill 70 years back.church became smart nd left violence bec it would show the real face of xtianity .ur book nd its teachings are the reason brits nd other european nations went on to looting spree to heathen nations committing horrible crimes across the world.thy looted india nd turned this golden nation to beggar state.over 100 mill indians died in brits rule just bec of starvation.ur god burns people in hell just for not worshipping him nd tht same hate is in his followers for heathens.xtianity have completly wiped out native religions nd gods of 100 nations including tht of europe using brut force,war,torture etc,.neither ur god s peacefull nor ur religion is. Nd thts the reality
@biju joze Portuguese just didn't do some wrong... they burnt more than 16000.thousand Hindus....and your ancestors are Hindus. It is a big crime.... not just some petty theft...
@biju joze History is history. First and foremost we needn't slander anyone in any form. However an introspection is paramount. If you take world history, the Church (and hence Christian rulers) has been the most violent. It's only in context of the Indian subcontinent and Asia at large that Islam and Islamic rulers have been the most violent. So let us not shy away from that fact.
Christianity came to India, from Israel, centuries before it landed in the shores of Europe or America. St Thomas (one of 12 apostles of Jesus) himself a convert from jewism, converted Hindus in 13 AD by faith alone, not by sword. What is wrong in sharing ones best religious practices? and conversion by self-will of the person wishing to convert, isn't a crime So calling Christianity a western religion, and that it was thrust on Hindus everywhere in India isn't true.
Sigh... What you went through to be able to speak about the Goa Inquisition is not fun at all. I had to go through this for my Cherokee Native American ancestors. It was really painful, because I did not get to know that part of my family, and my choice to live as my Cherokee ancestors did was taken away from me. I would have chosen to live this way rather than *this* white mess I've found myself in today. I am having a REALLY, REALLY difficult time getting myself back to reading the history of Christian and especially Islamic conquests of Bhāratavarṣa, because the saṃskāras from my ancestors are there (epigenetics). It is really hard! Look at the angry looks on the faces in the audience. I went through the same thing in the early part of life. Your people are still alive and moving forward. Mine are largely gone. Traditionalist Cherokees are reduced to maybe under 1-2%. Even then, their knowledge system was infiltrated with Jesus coming into the picture in 1955. Our fate was sealed, and we have become "museum-ized." Period... Which is why I want to move to Bhāratavarṣa. I commend you for taking this on and sharing this.
Here is an extract from "Christianity in India: The Hindutva Perspective" by Ashok V. Chowgule: ( www.scribd.com/document/25716910/Christianity-in-India-the-Hindutva-Perspective ) [Enrique] Dussel ("A History of the Church in Latin America", Grant Rapids, Eerdmans, 1981) gives a sophisticated analysis of the clash of cultures which followed the Spanish conquest of America. Its unambiguous result was that “the Hispanic civilisation virtually annihilated the Amerindian civilisations in America. The indigenous political and military organisations were obliterated,and the Amerindian elite and their institutions of education and culture were destroyed. What was left of the Indian community after being decimated in part by epidemics, wars, and inhumane treatment was totally unhinged from the ancient context which the norms and the organisation of the Amerindian cultures provided.
Just do some Google search and see for yourself. Pope has been routinely apologizing for atrocities committed by church on indigenous people across globe. But they have never apologized to people of India
@@personaldove I'm Hindu Shudra. We were traditional Baida(doctor) and Birwa(Archer or teacher). We can be Poojary(priest) and people accepted us as priest though we were NON-VEGETARIAN. No one discriminated us as low caste. Mangalore Gokarnanatheshwara Temple one of the example. This is my perspective on the caste system
In today's India North East is a majority christian states...they don't allow Hindus to own land...in Nagaland one Hindu Bengali was shot dead when he stoop for Municipal poll election..Hindu temples, tribal customs ppl are discriminated and forced converted even today..
Singh's In southern india , muslims do the same.They don't allow hindus to own lands in muslim dominated areas.They weaken hindu businessmen and merchants by establishing their own bigger markets with the funding from mosques and outside(saudi, for instance) countries.Muslims only buy from merchants from their community, but blind hindus doesn't care . We have to stay united against this. They also multiply like jackrabbits.While the birth rate(child per woman) of hindus and christians is around 2 to 2.1, that of muslims is 3 to 3.1. Recently, these assholes went on a rampage against hindus in the fake pretext of demanding justice for asifa bano.Many hindus were injured, our institutions destroyed, and temple walls defiled with their agenda posters.Even houses of hindus were targeted, and women and children were molested.
Not really. They dont even allow other Christians to own land. This is not true of all north eastern states. The loyalties are more along tribal lines than religion. FOr example, A Hindu Bodo may get along better with a Christian Garo than a Hindu Jaintia. Moreover, nowadays most people get along.
Ms Vaidya has done an excellent job chronically exposing to those that care and have their heart in the right place - the atrocities committed by the Catholic Church and the missionaries - converting the Hindus my ancestors to the Christian faith. This period of the Inquisition has tarnished the name of the Jesuits - and leading the way to form the Inquisition and execute the atrocities - St Francisco Xavier. One Hindu remarked - why are there not more Christians - commenting on this page - the reason is simple - they have not heard the truth - and more they are not concerned about the situation in hand. A Cherokee has commented his tribe was treated the same way as Ms Vaidya explains to us - all. I lived in Goa and know a lot about what Ms Vaidya is talking about. Some Christians who have studied for their Masters and higher the History of Goa and the role of the Inquisition. The shame of this action is known to many Goan Catholics - however, after all these years - hundreds of years many of the so called converts have not be comfortable with their conversation. So many simple have abandoned the Church and more after learning about the atrocities. The ancient books recited by heart by the Brahmin priests and other commentaries written is Sanskrit - now translated reveal more - and in this digital world - as we see with the RU-vid presentation - many will now support a revolution - to stand tall and represent - more, with one's heart in the right place. A documentary must be made and distributed to all the libraries, colleges, universities, temples, discussion and forums held and light shed - where there is abject darkness. Near Ponda I met some Buddhist monks way back in 1968 and learned about these monks and how they travelled from Goa to Siri Lanka and beyond. Of interest in the make up of a Goan - in music, as teachers, as judges, as leaders, as stellar workers in Government - all over the world - they have accomplished a lot and are respected. When I lived in Goa - I gravitated to the " thali " and love to chicken xacuti prepared by the Hindus. I encouraged the Hindus to play field hockey, and cricket - noticed most loved football aka soccer - women and men. The Jesuits can be mandated to create an institution to showcase the Inquisition - let the truth be told. Of interest the DNA sample can be taken from the remains of St Francisco Xavier from Spain - a Basque - and reveal if the remain are his or that of a Buddhist monk. I would often visit the temples in Goa - the Brahmin priests would stick to the mundane - and not engage on topics - such as the forced conversation - and many were intimated that I was interested in such a topic. I have travelled all over the world - and Goans - be they from any denomination - are more united outside Goa than inside Goa. The Chief Minister of Goa the very first one - was my friend - and encouraged me to play cricket for his team. When Chief Minister Dyanda Bandodkar ( I may not have his name correctly spelled) most of Goa - was sad. His cremation took place at the Mir-a-Mar beach - a ritual that would never have happened if the Portuguese were ruling Goa. My family have a few revolutionaries who fought the Portuguese - some had to flee - and others stayed back until they passed away. I normally do not like to debate on such a topic as the Inquisition, forced conversion, torture, rape, stealing property and a host of other nefarious activities - conducted with intent by the Portuguese. Paradoxically - the President of Portugal today is a Goan - he even visited his village - and seems to be open. It is time to send him a brief - chronologically stating what Ms Vaidya has revealed - and set the record - straight. The United Nations, the Court in The Hague, many Foundations that have taken the cause of genocide up - around the world - must at least know the facts. I knew some of the facts - my parents were open to the Hindus - and we had many good Hindus friends. However, this history is one of pain, trauma, guilt, nightmares, trials nd tribulation - fleeing from one's ancestral home - to some temporary safe haven. Those that fled men and women - were willing to die - for their faith - and their culture - going back thousands of years. Today - we have educated people ready to listen and more to right the wrong. We must continue to have forums - to discuss the content - a documentary should set the standard - with vetted facts. Facts stated by Ms Vaidya. Brahmin priests, scholars, historians of repute - on the subject of Inquisition and Goa's dark history - all vetted by a team of experts. More HIndus and if an exception is made - consensus from the team of experts - taken into account for inclusion. I was told at least in Bardez - those Catholic Churches - built by the river - Moira, Aldona, Mapsa, Panjim, Margao and so on - once on those very sites stood temples. This history and a vetted curricula must be introduced in the schools - the truth told - light shed - where there is abject darkness.
We have ancient sectors of Syr & Nasarani St Thomas that should be respected, when you go from spiritual to a “path”, the sectors turn on themselves too.
Do you know who is Antonio Costa just a liar Prime Minister of Portugal. Already the Temples where rebuilt by the Portuguese in Goa since 1770 during the reigns of Marques de Pombal . Just 3 days Sudin Dhavalikar himself has clarified this about the Temples in Mangueshi , Nagueshi , Mardol and Kundaim
@Jai Bholenath जय भोलेनाथ many temples with the linga from Salcete relocated to Gokarna , Kumta , Karwar and places in Karnataka. The unfortunate thing was that the inquisition planned against Moors in Spain initially afterwards had it's effects in Portugal in 1498 and then in 1568 in Goa on religious temples.
mani champ Brother caste was imposed by British in India after revolt of 1857 by a man called Lord Riseley . He was sent from England to impose caste on India . He created a heiarchy of castes in India . Caste comes from Portugese word costos . There is no such thing as upper caste lower caste scheduled caste etc , all this was created by the British .
Siddharth Siddharth what a load of rubbish. Caste and caste based discrimination has been present in India since thousands of years. There plenty of instances of it even in the Mahabharata! We need to recognize our flaws and correct them instead of blaming everything on the Brits.
Mihir Shetty You are talking of discrimination . Why does every one confuse , caste jati Varna and discrimination . Do people understand the difference ? Caste in india was goven by british in 1872 when lord riseley did caste based census and created a heiarchy of castes in india . Social proble,s present in india today are a result of that . You need to read the book Academic Hindu Phobia . In our country the deciding factor has been the society not the authority figure .
I won't believe in histories written by Goans out of fear that glorify the Portuguese but believe in histories written by Goans who left Goa and settled in distance land in North Konkan and south Konkan as Mangalore.
Dear Shefaliji, An eye opener, heart shattering talk. I could see the pain you were going through as you delivered it. I admire your courage of conviction in bringing the shadowy era to light. We need to know the truth , even if inconvenient , if fact more so if inconvenient. Thanks.
It's not a eye open but eye wash buy this GSB Brahmin lady . most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB Brahmin who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars.and keeping lower caste people as mundakars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB Brahmin can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power
Ravi Kiran Christianity is worst then Islam. If we study the death and destruction brought upon humanity and civilization by Christians then Muslims are saints.
ferzy09 All religion can be bad but some are worst whether you put them in public or in mind. Christianity and Islam comes in worst category whether you confine it in mind or put in practice in public.
Most europeans are leaving christianity. Uk 71 percent of millineals(age 16 to 29) are atheist Czech 91 percent are atheist Estonia 81 percent are atheist Sweden 75 percent are atheist Netherlands 72 percent are atheist Hungary 67 are athesit Belgium 65 percent are atheist France 64 percent are atheist Finland 60 percent are atheist Denmark 60 percent are atheist Norway 59 percent are atheist Spain 55 percent are atheist Russia 49 percent are atheist. If you look at the number of people who go to church on sundays it is less than 10 percent (of all population not just millineals) in all of these countries. Bottomline is they are selling you a philosophy that is rejected by the west. www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/christianity-non-christian-europe-young-people-survey-religion?mc_cid=78e2abfee3&mc_eid=b5f1c39cdf
@UtechS You need the support of the Jews and the Christian nations to fight China and Pakistan. Do you think you can do it alone without America, France, Russia and Israel?
Excellent lecture. Really enjoyed. Here In Brazil there was also an inquisition, between 1560 and 1775, but there were never any "autos de fé." The Church appropriated the property of converted Jews and settlers accused of practicing sodomy and witchcraft. It generated, however, a mentality that still exists today, of whistleblowing, of gossip, the idea that power can naturally be cruel to those who do not follow its rules. Many people complain about these characteristics of Brazilian culture, but they cannot relate them to the inheritance of the Inquisition. Your talk helped me to understand this relationship better.
My ancestors faced big trouble during the inquisition they lived in and around Pernem and had to flee. Those who reached Kolhapur and settled there remain Hindus. Some of them reached and settled in Bijapur became Muslims.
This is a touching comment. Some of your ancestors, who fled Portuguese atrocities, could retain their identity. Those ancestors who settled in the Adil Shahi capital became Muslims. Those ancestors who stayed back must have been forced into Christianity. Now you find yourself a Muslim. This is the tragic story of India. Hope we can all go back to our Dharmic roots, some day.
akanksha singh Hatred has to be stopped by all. I don’t identify myself with my past history. I had no role in it. I can only be responsible for my present. I have a mind of my own and am dispassionate in my views. The issue is human activity is mostly driven by greed, power hunger and ‘ religion’ serves as a useful tool to control the masses. Very few people follow their respective religions in their true essence. They cherry pick to serve their own interests. You will just repeat history if you keep the hatred going. This was an informative talk.
Sofia M , i understand your concern , that you dont want more hatered , you want to live with peace . But christians , as now , they are doing the same thing in nagaland .and now they are demanding a seperate north east just because they are christians .
@@powervr - Why? Why would any Hindu people harm anyone? Stop trying to divert the topic away from the historical lesson that needs to be learnt. An Indian has an Indian identity that will not be washed away by religion, color or language - s/he will stay Indian until they depart this life. Anyone thinking otherwise can read Ivar's comments - that is how the world treats Indians of all hues. Stay united else be ready to be ruled by forigners for another 1000 years.
This should be shown to every christian in the world.. specially to Indian Christians and the so called European christian (who thinks they were not as bad as Muslims)
Majority of Indian Christians have got nothing to do with Portuguese Inquisition. Remember the Portuguese/Spanish had done same, similar or worser even to their own people, to fellow Europeans.
jimc ~ That's besides the point. islam & christianity are diametrically opposite to Sanatana Dharma with their dogmas and exclusivity. Their condescending & threatening activities are eating up Bharat like cancer, which is going on unabated even today. Yes, it doesn't have much to do with Portagees or Spanish, but that role has been taken over by christian NGOs, missionaries, jesuits, islamic organizations, madrassas funded by the petro-dollar rich middle-east, the powerful church institutions in the U.S and Europe.
Birendra K Jha : An emotional talk. I have great respect for the Saraswat Brahman. Every Hindu should listen this talk. Tears rolled down my cheeks. Thank you Shefali Vaidya. Excellent talk.
Awesome lecture, ma'm. I have been living in Goa for 15 years. I have been to Tambdi Surla many times. One of the most beautiful temples sites, right in the middle of the western ghats. I was always curious as to why most temples in Goa are in a small radius in and around Ponda. Also, the culture of Ponda is rich and Indic. Now, everything makes sense.
Sergio Pinto : If your teachers haven't failed you so badly would have actually understood what I was saying. I will repeat it for you here ELI5 style. Rape is a crime that happens all around the world. If you take population into account India is a safer country than many of the the Western countries. You are a special kind of looser, who thinks of himself as white yet Indian. A Perfect Slave.
@@sergiopinto4831 Sati wasn't practised in Goa in the 1500s. The practise of Sati was limited to certain pockets in North India. Don't speak bullshit if you don't know the facts. The Devadasi system that you call as Temple prostitution was a system where the Devadasis had high social regard, and their children were free to marry Brahmins and many did including India's greatest Carnatic singer M.S Subbulakshmi whose father was a Brahmin, and she married a Brahmin. Converts like you don't know real history of Hindu customs and what they resulted in. Daambar jaisa rang hai aur baatein badi badi. Sergio Pinto bc...lisbon me paida hua kya tu?
Not at all ..she is hiding facts to protect his GSB bamon community. most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB bamon who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB bamon can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power
Hi Shefali. Thank you for your detailed talk. I speak for myself and am probably a converted Christian from the past, but I am so happy that I have embraced Christianity and believe in a God who loves and cares for me and who I can hope in!
Ravi Singh , it's already in English right, I am from Goa myself , and wanted to spread it my elders and local people who should now there forefathers sacrifice, which Shefali Mam can help getting a Konkani or Marathi, so Goan people can also know
Don't apply for St Xavier colleges ..Ha ha ha ..Don't be fooled ..History is history ..Thinks moved on...In Goa we all Hindus muslim and christian lived peaceful and is still living peacefully ...Xavier college schools rather christian ran education institution have contributed much to India development ...Tell me when british ruled India there was some sort of exploitation ..So it's natural....Any religion ....God ...Etc etc is more harmful and dangerous to humanity ....Don't be too religious rather see video of Osho ..
@@hrishikeshananth8996 Liberal Hindus ,jihadis ,missionary will cook up abt brahminism, Aryan theory to divide the Hindus and politicise... Now no true Hindus found themself divided ..only librandus keep injecting such venoms among people's..
absolutely, we need to talk about this, my grandparents migrated to africa, then my mother came to the uk, and eventually had to bring my grandparents here too, all of my family are in lot's of different countries around the world, except goa. my family do not talk about the past, they never handed me a book about the inquisition, they are very strong in their catholic roots and i am the one asking these questions, buying the books and only at my age 45 am learning how ruthless the portuguese were to us and the jews. after all that was done to jesus, this is what the church did to convert? plus they hid their paedophile priests to face canon law, simply moving them from one country to another covering more crimes. there was a group in 2015 fighting for a public apology from the church for this inquisition, did this ever happen? i am so outraged, when i married, i wanted to keep my goan name because of my identity and goan culture as i married an irish and austrian person, but i cannot put my name to a religion that is responsible for mass torture or killing any more. i am already a vegan, actually, you can place blame on our current pope for that change, he was asked to go vegan for lent as he speaks up so much about climate change, a little girl asked him to do this and his response annoyed me so much, i thought ok let me go vegan if this man cannot do this for our creatures and climate change, it's now 2 years and i am still vegan, further to this a few things have led me to wanting to convert instead to jainism, i cannot pray to saints like francis xavier, having seen his letter to john iii, this is no small thing for me, my family are catholic fanatics who led me to believe the portuguese coming to goa was a good thing, for our education, our language etc..but how so? if all my family fled goa! i want to know who were we, what name did we have prior to taking a portuguese name, i will never find that out, we must encourage the truth about the portuguese catholics, doesn't matter it was long ago, just have to look at how many times the poor jewish people have been treated like this in almost every country they have tried to make a peaceful life in, it will continue unless we right the wrongs in these religious fanatics.
" *my family are catholic fanatics who led me to believe the portuguese coming to goa was a good thing, for our education, our language etc..but how so?* " Do you think your parents are not smart? They were living in Goa when the Portuguese were their not you.... why they left Goa? *WHY a good percentage of Goans including non Christians left Goa after the annexation of Goa by India?* Where did a lot of these Goans go? I tell you, to Portuguese territories (Moçambique and Portugal itself) If Portugal was so bad to Goans why they went to Portuguese territories? Inquisition was a bad thing off course, in Goa on paper it was abolish in 1774 The reality was that after the Lisbon tsunami 1755 the Inquisition was decapitated by the Portugal prime-minister which made it powerless in Portugal and other territories for ever. What happened after king D. Jose death, was that in Goa it was created another type of "inquisition" in 1778, which had no power other then passing fines, and that made people return to Goa, because if I 'm not mistaken 40% of Goan population by the time India annexed Goa was non-christian. In Portugal the inquisition was even worse... but remember people were burning witches in other countries in Europe and they didn't have inquisition there. And let me ask you something: weren't Indians burning widows when the Portuguese arrived in India?
@@wcronin7307 why will they? most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB bamon who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB bamon can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power
Reminds me of some lyrics of a song "Undo these chains, my friend I’ll show you the rage I’ve hidden Perish the Sacrament Swallow, but nothing’s forgiven You and I can’t decide Which of us was taken for granted Make amends Some of us are destined to be outlived"
Mam I'm from Goa I watched this video full and I really liked it. I'll be downloading this video because it contains lot's of interesting historical knowledge about our motherland. Thank you very much mam.
This is such an eye opener. Thank you Shefali Ji. Portuguese were ruthless. They have created the conditions for conversions. All Christians of Goa must revert back to their roots.
There were about 1000 universities in India before the Europeans arrived here. The Europeans made every effort to destroy this centres of learning. Students from Arabia ,China Siam, Indonesia had to stay on waiting list to Gain entrance to these universities. Many disciplines Were taught at the universities in India.
Sometimes in the late 60s or early 70s a movie was made depicting the Goan inquisition. It was a Black & White movie made in somewhat art movie style and I think it was in Tulu or Konkani Language. I also vaguely remember that the movie had won a national award or something like that. We need to revive such movies and make more such movies. Not just movies that depict the atrocities of the Christians, but also movies where they depict the absurdities in Xtianity as a religion. We need to show the truth and break the false "Perception" that Xitanity is the best religion and prove that it is worse than bull crap
You are a beautiful Goan woman. I am of Portuguese origin. I would like to apologize the affliction that Goa went through during Portuguese rule. Today, we have a growing Hindi community in Portugal. I am very proud and love all of you.
@@swarnadeepsen1835 Heathens...? This is what Abhramic monster God and non Virgin slut's sons worshipper of Jesus and his preaching does to your Penny size brain.
My maternal ancestors were Kadams (now Borade) of Kadamba.They had to migrate all the way to Pune. The village has a small section of Borades who are originally from Goa.
thankfully never studied in a christian school or college and will make sure none of kids in my family goes to any St Stephen St Paul or any christian school/ college ever.
Ajit Vadakayil has a great blog on the Goan inquisition. I also urge you [everyone who reads this] to be familiar with his blog on a Mrs Teresa the patron saint of poverty in Calcutta. Also Christopher Hitchens on you tube. We need to get out of this mindset that only Christians practice charity.
It was painful for Hindu like me to hear this well researched account .I haven't heard this before but I believe it very close to the truth.She also mentions that many slaves of Hindus and Muslims adopted Christianity to liberate themselves from slavery.I feel ashamed to know that Hindus also had slaves .We Hindus are so divided that it should be our endeavour to bring them together and that is the only way to save our faith.Let us learn from the past and be alert and let these things not repeat again.
Thank you for the talk.. incredible..!! why hasn't all this even been taught in our schools?? I didn't knew any of this. I come from Bihar and my mother tongue is Maithili, a dying language. When I tell my fellow mithilianchalis that Maithili isn't written like Hindi (Devanagari) even they get surprised, such has been the destruction and opression of our society over the centuries. All this has been continued by Lalu and his cateist followers even after independence.
Shefaliji, I watched your RU-vid video on Goa Inquisitions, while having lunch today. I was impressed how you could speak about it for 43 minutes without once breaking down. I wept unabashedly and left my lunch midway. Such a shockingly sad incident.
Those are pure lies to hide their mistakes and and this lady as GSB Brahmin can go any extent to do that. most of the catholic in Goa are converted Muslims from adil shah regime and elite GSB Brahmin who helped Portuguese to invade goa and grabbed majority of land in Goa by becoming bhatkars.and keeping lower caste people as mundakars. They also gained top education and position in Portuguese regime. And helped Portuguese to convert few lowercast people of Goa . This GSB Brahmin can go to any extent to have superiority over bhahujans . This also grabbed majority of temples using Portuguese Mahajan act . They also insisted to keep most of the Portuguese law in Goa after liberation too. So that it can helped them to retain their power
jai sanaatan dharam. being hindu in the 21st century is a matter of great pride!!! we have survived so many attempts of other people to kill us. 1000 years of invasions. different invaders with different degrees of brutality, different tactics of persecution and proselytization. its really ONLY the power of our ancient rishis and their vaani which is resonating as a protective layer on us. i believe that we hindus need to practise our faith and create this protective layer for our children. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Road in Delhi named after Atrocious Aurangzeb has been named asr Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam Road Roads institutions named after xavier too need immediate change. Otherwise how about changing the name itself from Saint xavier to Satan xavier
If you are a true hindu, boycott all christian Institutions. Give up suit/boot, and wear dhoti/langot and celebrations in Western style like cutting cake with knife., instead cut ladoo with Khoi ta. Stop patronising western music and dance. All of these are part of Portuguese legacy in Goa.
I am Mangalorean Christian and just about came to know how my ancestors may have been converted and fled to Mangalore from Goa. My mum mentioned she heard her elders saying we were Bammons. Any way to find out who my ancestors were?
yes, exactly, my grandmother doted on this saint so much, so many wasted prayers. his sainthood should be revoked for the mass killing of so many innocent lives. i myself was praying to this saint
@@leeoconnor123 I advise you to look for St. Xavier biography, he was dead 8 years before the inquisition started in Goa, and he NEVER worked for the inquisition
Part of the problem why Hindus were and are suffering is because they have not learned t o protect them selves and their way of life. I strongly feel that even today every one in India should have compulsory military service and should be ready to defend whenever a need arise. Remember the world has not changed much.
My heart breaks after hearing real meaning and historical background behind the song 'he he he saiba poltodi vaita' !!! Shout out to Konkani culture, traditions and people !!!
I really feel so sorry for the existing converted Christians. Their ancestors have undergone lot of suffering before they were forced into Christianity
Shefali mam it sucks to know about the ruthless Invaders did to us same story across India time to give them back let's open the lid to public domain let the people know what they did to our Hindus.even the folk song had dark side of it.time for justice.
Does She what really happened in the past. What is happening now in India for the last 5 years. India's economy in par with Rawanda. Journalists need to speak or lecture thoughtfully .
@@armaanshrestha4623 Shefali Vaidya was deported from Lisbon for her anti national activities in Portugal her husband was working in the Indian Embassy Lisbon . Now she is hurt and seeking revenge and bringing out the past with her fabricated stories.
whAT JUSTICE THE HEADS OF STATE AND MILITARY WHO COMMITED THESE EVIL ACTS AND PRACTISES ARE DEAD. jUSTICE IS TO MAKE INDIA A SEVEN STAR HEAVEN ON EARTH. NOT SOME HORROR MOVIE OF POVERTY IGNORANCE AND FILTH.
Shefali mam as Goan whatever I learnt Abt portguese inquisition is from ur videos..in schools in Goa v ver never thaught Abt portguese rule..v didn't knew Abt St Francis Xavier... still people in Goa r ignorant..
The lady Shefali Vaidya is ddiscussing the Goan inquisition. She says her family has been personally involved in the liberation struggle for the past three generations. I wonder how this family went through this unique generations of struggle which never existed? She displayed a book written by her aunts father, which gives details about the inquisition. I must let her know that the so called Goan inquisition was from 1560 to 1812. I'm pretty sure her aunts father wasn’t around at that time ans definitely didn’t have a opportunity to interview any of the victims. And she also says that is is a story (not a fact) she knows from her childhood. She says before the Portuguese had arrived Lord Parashurama who is supposed to be an incarnation of Vishnu (a Hindu God) settled Hindus from Kashmir (territory in the north of the Indian subcontinent) into Salsette (district of south Goa) She mentions all temples were destroyed by the Portuguese in the 15th century and then the Hindus rebuilt them in the 16th and 17th century.in Portuguese Goa even thought the inquisition is still going on at that time. Makes no sense. She says that the Portuguese asked the non-christians to leave in one month to be exiled if they did not convert to Christianity. Keep in mind that the Portuguese were only a few hundred (christian) controlling a population of over tens of thousands of local non christian population (majority Hindu). Also her family migrated for Nagoa, Portuguese Goa to Cuncolim (today in Goa but at that time in the Muslim ruled Sultanate of Bijapur. Her next statement says that Goa was ruled by the Kadamba Empire, followed by the Vijaynagar Empire and then by the Sultanate of Bijapur until the arrival of the Portuguese. This proves that before the arrival of the Portuguese the land which is Goa today was still ruled by various foreign powers. She also states many Hindus fled from Portuguese Goa to the Sultanate of Bijapur and there too they were discriminated against although they were a majority there too. She names Timoja, a pirate who worked for the Vijaynagar Empire and tried to use the Portuguese to fight the war and capture Goa with the assumption that he would then rule over the territory. But he was outsmarted by the Portuguese soldier and explorer Dom Francisco de Almeida who then was appointed as the first governor and viceroy of the Portuguese State of India. The information is too mixed up and just direct blame game. But the end is that the inquisition was set up for people who became Christians but were not following the doctrine given to them. When the Portuguese arrived in India they just had 4 ships and 300 men where as the local population even at that time was over 1,00,000 people. The greatest victims in her so called story are the Hindus.
*I must let her know that the so called Goan inquisition was from 1560 to 1812. I'm pretty sure her aunts father wasn’t around at that time ans definitely didn’t have a opportunity to interview any of the victims* Actually the inquisition became powerless after the Lisbon tsunami 1755, after that it only had powers to pass fines
I m goan and whatever she said is correct .....as my grand parent narrated same story as they were direct victim of such atrocities the problem in chritian in goa is they are not ready to accept such things happened as it wil bring bad name to Christianity
@@lifearoundwesternghats The Inquisition is for those who converted to Christianity and weren't following the exact system of practice. It wasn't against the other religious denominations in Goa. I'm sure your grandmother was not around in between 1560-1812. There are no records of an inquisition in Goa. For name sake if I agree the records were destroyed by the Portuguese don't you think the Hindus or other non-Christians of Goa would have kept a record to prove the numbers. Can you or your grandmother name at least one Hindu victim of the inquisition? If the Hindus of Goa were being put to the sword and they were running across the river with their Gods how come they are a majority in Goa?
@@keithathaide9793 hey converted rice bag, did her lineage just began from her grand parents, does her grandparents don't have parents, goan liberation happened in 1961, liberating goa from foreign Portuguese army, it happened after indian independence,most of us living in india now are the third generation of people after independence, what did you said no record of inquisition, visit your local libraries, simply search wikipedia it will give you complete record with hundreds of references from indian as well as foreign historians
About the reconstruction of temple , saptkoteshwar temple which was destroyed by Portuguese 2 times was later built after the order of chattrapati shivaji maharaj, and no Portuguese leader have dare guts to go against him..... 2nd about hindu majority, Portuguese mainly captured 3 current talukas and rest were under maratha empire which are nothern talukas and some south east where under adil shah, Portuguese defeated adil shah but couldn't capture entire goa....later adil shah himself helped local hindus inorder to safeguard his kingdom that's why place like sattari, canacona, quepem, sangem are hindu majority..... About safety of temples , shantadurga kunkalikarin temple from her village was shifted to fatorpa village where Portuguese rarely reached due to forest area , and most temples are in pomda as the locals were having 1 benefit that was, entire taluka was surrounded by mountains and one river as a route to enter so it was impossible for Portuguese to attack it.....
The famous Kapaleeswara temple in Mylapore in Chennai originally stood at Santhome. The Portugese destroyed it and built a Cathedral. The current temple was later built at Mylapore.
Agreed.. but GSB’s are still fighting internally within community.. GSB’s never learnt how much their ancestors suffered if they did they would be helpful to the community.. infighting, jealousy and kokke buddhi are at its peak within GSB…
OMG! We were never told these horrific stories of forced conversion. And the churches talk about BJP. I wonder why the mainstream Media like ZEE News, Republic World and News Hour NEVER MENTIONS THESE STORIES about forced conversion and destruction of Hindu temples. I wonder. Please make this news available to all Hindu communities. Ghar Wapsi must be brought back with pride to allow the return of the forced and manipulated converted Hindus.The hell with foreign-funded NGOs.
Basically, if one still remained a Hindu in India (most of the country but especially so in places like Goa) today, every second of their life is paid for and bought with the blood of their ancestors.
Shocking past but unfortunately similar prosecution of Hindu's is still happening and goes unchecked or unprotested because we don't know our correct history. Thanks Shefali Ji.
Kudos Shefali ji for bringing out the facts from the past this will take off the covers that the perpetrators so dilligently tried to put over, to cover their misdeeds and tried to project themselves as our saviours. In the end truth prevails most Goans have the same understanding of the past ,which you have highlighted.
Damnn what da .... What the heck did we read part of Indian history... Who ever prescribed the idiot syllabus.... Thank you Shefali ji for a wonderful talk..
Dear Shefali- Thank you and glad to listen in . In so many years on Facebook since 2009/10, first time hearing your Voice- so far only in writings and FB post .Good wishes and Success ahead, kind Regards from TR Chennai