GOD EXISTS - PROVE ME WRONG | MUSLIM CHALLENGES ATHEISTS IN UNIVERSITIES 

Irrefutable, hardly. 1) Causation is an argument that requires time to be coherent and time is only one of the nine dimensions. Time and space are four dimensions. Even if time and space began completely at the singularity 13.7 billion years ago, that still leaves at least five other dimensions, and as astrophysics currently shows, a quantum field and potentially gravity exists outside of space and time. 2) It hasn't been shown conclusively by anyone anywhere that anything can exist wholly independently of the cosmos, much less an immaterial mind, when every mind that we have evidence for requires a brain. 3) Even if there is a cause, that doesn't make it a named deity who is currently worshipped. If Islam were just about causation, it wouldn't be Allah. If Christianity were just about causation, it wouldn't be Jesus. If Judaism were just about causation, it wouldn't be Yahweh.

@@MathewSteeleAtheology So you are postulating that 2 of these 9 dimensions began at the beginning of the universe, but the other 7 or 5 haven't? I would really love to see the science that proves this. Also, if you're referring to string theory, I would like to see the paper which says that the extra dimensions (which they believe to be smaller) are somehow not-created. I would like to see where astrophyics shows that quantum fields exist outside of space and time. If it's just populations, then you are replacing one so-called "assertion" with another. Furthermore, the intelligent design of the universe must necessitate an mind beyond the cosmos. This is, of course, not conclusive proof of God, but when did we say it was? The speaker in the video made abundantly clear that these are logical proofs that God "Should Exist". Islam is not just about causation, it's about the Holy Qur'an as the speaker says.

@@MathewSteeleAtheology as a physicist first point is completely dumb and you have no idea what you are talking about.

@@MathewSteeleAtheology You said: "It hasn't been shown conclusively by anyone anywhere that anything can exist wholly independently of the cosmos, much less an immaterial mind, when every mind that we have evidence for requires a brain". This is an erronous claim. As the Muslim in the video stated, the burden of proof is to show: "the rule of thumb across every single discipline of science across the entire world of rationality and logic is that a thing cannot cause itself necessarily you need something outside of the thing caused to cause it time cannot cause itself space cannot cause itself materials cannot cause themselves matter cannot cause itself energy cannot cause itself you need something that is extremely powerful outside of energy outside of time therefore Timeless outside of matter therefore immaterial to cause it"

The only thing is that according to several schoolars, the Quran is based on greek legends, apocryphal christian texts and the torah.

Love you, my brother. Jazakallah for sharing your story and your insights. And I agree, this video is extremely compelling.

Welcome to the community. May Allah strengthen your heart and bless you. And yes, Tahrik-e Jadid is the biggest and most worthwhile spiritual investment.

to the lesser educated/unprepared people perhaps.

the burden of proof traditionally lies on the one making a positive claim. In the case of the existence of God, theists posit the existence of a divine being, and atheists, in the absence of conclusive evidence, may withhold belief. It's not necessarily about proving a negative but rather seeking evidence to support a positive assertion.

@@pinkiethesniper6630 I agree, that proof is needed for certainty in God's Existence. However, I'd like to mention that the onus lies also on the atheist to demonstrate the veracity of their claim, that this universe came out of nothing. Because when atheism presents a negative statement, that "I dont believe in God", it necessarily presents a positive one which is "The universe came out of nothing, and created itself". For this we demand proof from Atheists, to mention anything at all, which could come into existence on its own. The burden of proving such a statement, lies on the atheist.

Oh they have a lot of books, They've translated over 20 books of Hazrat Musleh maud (ra)