Also Wonder of U: Shit calamity takes awhile to actually activate meaning I’ll be dead if I can’t survive long enough for it to kick in and Gohan definitely can’t kill me in time (he very well can) and I’ll die Edit: I’ve already said I was wrong I didn’t want to edit my comment so that people could see that I was wrong without any doubt it’s what I originally said but I’m just getting tired of responding to people saying WoU wins and I know nobody has the time to scroll that far so just wanted to put this out there
@@randomguy6909 The "Calamity" is a flow and it's always active also it's effects are stronger if you are pursuing tooru or WOU himself also WOU does not need his user if tooru dies WOU just does not care lol and gohan can't kill WOU because it's a stand and since gohan is not a stando user he can't hurt him and WOU is also almost invincible but softo and wetto counter's because is a extreme manipulation of logic while soft and wet goes beyond logic
@@therealmonke561Ger didn't punch the shit out of diavalo, the hax in the GER's fist was nullified basically nothing, the hax is what killed diavalo but yeah remaining stats are null as well
@@Cinnimix Stronger plot armor + same type of stand Beat that Young Jotaro: Cool form, too bad if it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum Star Platinum: Super Saiyan
Novel Kars said if he gets erased out of existence he will just find his way back💀 Edit: wth i just got pinged to this comment and i got 1,6k likes loool
@@TheDemonEmperorVegitoGohan takes one look at Heaven's Door, becomes abook and is immobilized, Rohan writes "cannot utilize ki" and "cannot perceive Kishibe Rohan" in him. Rohan solos no diff, cope
@user-to8sc2qd4t Yea yea whatever, Jojo universe has G.E.R and W.O.U, and either one of them is enough to Traumatize the entire DBZ universe for eternity 🤷♂️
@T . O . W . A bro every life form that giorno creates cannot be damaged, instead the damage reflects to the attacker (it makes some plot holes but thats not the topic rn)
I thought he just gained the ability to take traits from any animal on earth, and even then gohan could just throw him into the sun before he realized it because he's *reaaally fast*
Gohan: *Fights Giorno: No Pucci: *Laughs in sans Valentine: What a shame bro, you cant hurt me Johnny: Too bad, time to spin WoU: Ok, so let me explain- Gappy: Hold this bubble for me for a second- Dio OH: No you dont *Snaps Jesus: 🗿
I really like the confidence of the DRAGON BALL FANBOYs when they say Gohan solo's even without knowing anything about JOJO lmaoo, you won't be seeing those fanboys now 😂
@@theajoestar *calamity* or like u said “fate” in simple terms. Anything that can go wrong in any situation is bound to happen through the flow of calamity. Doesn’t matter if it’s something small like stubbing your toe, it will cause INSIGNIFICANT damage. To make things worse, WOU technically has infinite range, as long as you have the intentions of hurting the user or pursuading them WOU AKA calamity will target you. I’m not sure if it can target multiple people at once but one thing for sure is that it’s damn terrifying. If you somehow reach 1 centimeter away from the user of WOU a whole plane will crash on your face, Calamity will keep chasing and targeting you until you stop going after it or your dead. In summary WOU is a stand that uses and manipulates calamity.
The user could be in Japan and you would be in North America and it would activate and still target you as long as you have the intentions of persuading or hurting the user.
@@astolfo9273 Not if they were to actually battle no but if Kira could catch him off guard or touch him without him noticing than yes cause I mean the point of Kira is he’s supposed to look like a normal guy
@@numer1number4hater I mean there’s one that’s correct and it’s Giorno besides that everyone else loses (unless novel Jesus who’s not shown in the edit he loses)
There are some cap in the debate 1) kakyoin negs gohan cause No one can just deflect the emerald splash 2) jotaro also negs him cause Its the same type of stand as star platinum 3)koichi also negs him cause He is such a reliable guy 4)kira also negs him(especially kira's hand) cause Sheer heart attack has no weakness and kochiio miro
Comparing Giorno to other anime characters is always confusing because his official stats are literally "none" edit: i confused GER with MiH and said 'immeasurable' instead of 'none'
It's actually causality manipulation (or Effect Manipulation), he can basically revert any actions and wills that can hurt or kill Giorno as an effect but it has a limitations. He can only revert direct attack like actions and wills to hurt or kill Giorno but not the indirect attacks like calamity, natural occurrence, and ofc, The fate to die in a natural way.
@@loleron2004 he can't revert fate itself because it's natural occurrence except for being killed by someone as a fate can be reversed because the killer has an action and will to kill Giorno. Therefore, it should be reverted but being killed by a lightning or drowning or falling cannot be reverted. Why? Because it's natural occurrence and anything that happens naturally has no action because it's an action itself and it doesn't have a will to hurt Giorno because only Living things are the ones who can have a will. So yeah, Giorno can affect Fate itself by using his Causality Manipulation but he doesn't have Fate Manipulation.
@@isaiahjohnson6809he still is beating gohan pucci is basically Wally west but a little slower and has speed that of god if you look on the stand stats panel
Agreed but he could hit Gohan is a milion years, same goes for Jhonny, the non cap ones are Valentine, GER,wou and DOH, but love train and Ger only tira, cause they canto get damage but also cant do damage
Also who watches an anime because it as powerful characters. Jojo story his far better than dragon now it's just seem like a children show whenever they have to show Goku's power up they just change the hair colour and Dragon Ball fans say Dragon Ball has best power UPS 😂 Bleach's power UPS are far better 😂
@Noreen Malhi He cant, gohan is Trillions times faster than Rohan and considering one punch from crazy diamonds fist ruined his face alot Just imagine a full power fist from gohan
DIO's time stop has a limit gohan took planetary punches to his face and even stopped them with one hand so the world would clearly not be able to kill him by .....punching really hard
Well If we do the maths when you stop time and you do something while the time IS stopped, it would take 0.000... seconds for It to happen, and that will lead to infinite speed. The fastest something is, stronger his damage output will be, So, in stopped time, the user is moving infinitely fast, that will lead to infinite strenght
I got quick question how can none stand user see a stand or hurt remember what jojo said if you are none stand user you can’t hurt a stand so if you use something like cream you can’t be beaten by none stand user like gohan
@@astolfo9273 it's a draw calamity exists in every universes and d4cs sponge effect wouldn't effect wou but d4c lt uses infinite universes to make love train and is above those universes it's just an endless battle of fortune Vs calamity at best they are equal.
Gohan: what’s up with your hair? Josuke: What did you just say about my hair. Josuke unlocks true ui and become Zeno and goes DORRARARARARARARARARARARARARA DORARARA DORAAAAA
@@caleb_gilmer989 Jotaro and dio don’t have the proper strength to do any damage to gohan my guy, how are you calling me a fool. I’m a huge Jojo fan but not to the point where I say that Jotaro and dio can beat one of the strongest saiyans.
@@SIRSLMAO regular base gohan is 23x the speed of sound, It wouldn't be that hard to see how Beast Gohan would significantly surpass the speed of light
@@BathDemo mabey but a god the god he beat if as fast if not faster than light. He also beat a mountain god who can control fait. So maybe Gohan would win but probably not Rohan needs to land just one hit and he wins but I guess so does gohan
@@BathDemorohan showed josuke a manga sheet just before he got punched by an enraged crazy dianond Enraged crazy diamond was able to overwhelm star platinum who kepted up with silver chariot without armour during the anubis fight Silver chariot is way slower with armour but still attacked hanged man who was moving at lightspeed and blocked several beams of light from the sun(the stand) (shown in the manga and not the anime sadly 😭😭) this feat would make rohan ftl - mftl in attack speed/reflexes🥺🥺
@@ilovewater570rohan showed the manga page to josuke before an enraged crazy diamond’s attack could hit, and enraged crazy diamond over powered star platinum which kept up with silver chariot without armour, silver chariot with armour is significantly slower but still attacked hanged man who was moving at light speed, and blocked beams of light from the sun(the stand) , this makes rohan ftl - mftl attack speed/reflexes that + him outpseeding ink evaporating in accelerated time shown as hes the only one who could make the manga deadlines during time acceleration (for comparision, erosion was also shown eating a cliff in a few seconds, which would take millions of years outside of accelerated time)
@@adelandjj1721 we talking about normal Kars or ULF Kars? If the first, then I agree If the second... nah, Gohan isn't beating that. ULF Kars literally can't die, and he can adapt and improve his body to keep up with Gohan. Plus, if Gohan tries to punch him... well, bye bye fist.
@@adelandjj1721 bullshit Kars literally evolved to survive being inside of magma, created a SQUIRREL capable of easily tearing through human bones with but a thought, evolved to fly and on the spot changed his feathers into scales, then into octopi and piranhas WHILE THEY WERE DETATCHED AND MID-AIR That's on top of the already incredibly superhuman stats of the Pillar Men Edit: The ONLY reason Joseph won was because the plot needed him to and NOTHING more. If Kars went all-out as he damn well should've he would have immediately killed Joseph. Pillar Men and humans are on two different levels entirely, and ULF easily defeats even an army of Pillar Men
Gohan: "MASENKO!" DIO:GTH: "Why is this 2 year tryna fight me" Gohan: "Wait wha-" *turns into a 2yr old* Edit: Can yall stop malding that the db verse gets negged? WW2 in the replies because Dio oh negs the dbs verse. 🗿🍷
@@okuyasus Bro can't even beat anos so I dunno who you quoting lmao, and gohan doesn't have to be 2 years old. He can turn literally into a frog or smth by dio, stop malding just cuz dio(goh) beats gohan lmao
@@gpavitra85 his stand is really fast and Gohan can't see Heavens door so he can just attack him with heaven's door and write that Gohan cannot attack Rohan an Gohan can kill himself ( pretty simple spell but really hard to break)😂
@@Kokushibou04 even josuke broke out of rohans spell. and as i said. WYM? stands are life energies manifested upon the users fighting spirit. life energies are 3d. gohan is 4d AGAIN, lets say gohan WASNT 4d. he can sense life energy. he can detect the stand and gohan is physically faster than every stand in jojo EXCEPT mih
@@gpavitra85 nah bro he ain't detecting a stand now you just being biased and talking non sense till yet apart from stand users there is no one who has ever been able to see or detect stand Gohan wont be able to sense the heavens door ,, its a 50 -50 fight if thry are a distant range then gohan wins but if gohan is under Heavens door range then he is done so the chances of winning are 50 -50 for both depending on the situation
@@blopper5550mean canon kars with ULF already beats gohan since kars can just become half sayian and just master ki control and clap gohan Or become half xeno and erase gohan from existance
@@DaBlueesgiorno ( GOLDEN EXPERIENCE REQUIEM ),tooru ( Won`da of You ),PUCCI ( NOT MADE IN HEAVEN but c-moon), johnny ( act 4 infinite spin ), funny valentine ( DIrty~ DEeds~ DOne~ DIrto~ cheapo~ ) also accidentally named 6 but it's fine since i can name many more.
@@DaBluees1.Dio cuz he can stop time and crush gohan's heart 2.Jotaro same as 1. 3.Silver chariot requiem 4.Dirty deez done dirt cheap 5.ofc Wonder of U 6.Tusk act 4 .......the list continues.....
Giorno doesnt have the dimensionality to match gohan. Pucci gets one shotted Dio over heavens wins ofc Funny valentine gets bamboozled Explain how johnny will hit gohan with inf rotational energy if hes literally quadrillions of times faster than light lol. Wou wins ofc. Josuke 8 gets one shot without ANY difficulty. But fire edit
@@Meenakshibedi2225 nope. Wou just got countered by go beyond Wou itself was unstoppable lmfao. If josuke didn't have a counter he wouldve gotten slammed at the blink of an eye
Problem with gohan beating pucci Yes i know pucci needs to charge up but gohan needs to power up before pucci accelerates time to a point where gohan dies “But he can beat him in his base” He really can’t he’s already fast enough to speed biltz him without time acceleration
@@KirboWithAGun no lmfao? How is pucci seeing gohan since gohan has higher dimensionality. Pucci base cant even react to jotaro sp no ts and your saying hes gonna react to gohan who is quadrillions of times faster than light and even at that what is building level punches gonna do to a guy who tanked multiversal attacks???
@@nova8198 Giorno is only FTL+ The reverting erased time feat is 🧢. That's just part of RTZ, and not representative of the stand's speed. EDIT: GER is only FTL+
@@RenoiooYou do know that he was correct, ger with the ability to revert to zero, wou with calamity, pucci is questionable but inf speed and novel kars is novel kars
How would Kars ULF lose to Gohan if his already Immortal and he could also copy anything as long as he figure out how the things work or analyze it via physical contact?
