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Going from Logitech G29, CSL Elite & Clubsport to the Fanatec CSL DD 

Danny Lee
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The next generation appears to be cuboid. The Fanatec CSL DD has been with me for a couple of weeks after an early dispatch of the early pre-orders and I've had time to get to know it. In general, the CSL DD replaces the CSL and CSW completely and they're officially consigned to history. Logitech users making the jump will find an even lovelier experience awaits. People already with Fanatec wheelbases will find improvements but nothing soul-shaking, just a good incremental step up that's great for sim racing enthusiasts and an unmatched (yet) 'standard benchmark' in this price bracket.
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@nl6carbon12
@nl6carbon12 3 года назад
2:46 ahh I’ve tried this technique thanks gave me an additional 2 tenths
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
Hehhehheheh
@iGearhead
@iGearhead 3 года назад
Ayo I’m crying 🤣 that’s funny
@excrubulent
@excrubulent 3 года назад
Holy crap it's just in there with no comment.
@MattO109
@MattO109 3 года назад
I was very confused with this moment, is this a calibration method?
@2Pi100
@2Pi100 3 года назад
@@MattO109 its a joke
@hoff521
@hoff521 2 года назад
Minor correction - they don't require 3 components. As someone who uses a wheelchair, I use my formula v2 wheel with podium shift module and the clutch levers mapped to throttle and brake, so I don't need pedals. The included clutch levers on the mclaren wheel can be used for the same purpose. For the majority of people pedals are required, but just something to note as a great option for those of us with limited mobility :)
@jackharrison6799
@jackharrison6799 3 года назад
Dude this is perfect, so many people are going down this path from a G29, thank you so much for this video!
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 года назад
I went from a G29 to T300. Basically I went to T300 so I can have wheel options but it is also a wheel with better force feedback and less noisy. This probably makes more sense as an upgrade now than going for any other CSL fanatec option. A CSL elite probably won't be a huge upgrade to the T300, probably a small upgrade, while this is getting into the direct drive territory.
@The98Man098
@The98Man098 3 года назад
2:45 this is the hardest i've ever laughed at a youtube video, thank you
@vjollila96
@vjollila96 3 года назад
2:45 only real men drive like this
@okeeedokeee
@okeeedokeee 3 года назад
at first I thought the DD was loose...
@vjollila96
@vjollila96 3 года назад
@@okeeedokeee I actually just noticed he isn't actually driving it's on replay
@FaffyandJus
@FaffyandJus 3 года назад
Thanks to you I bought the CSL Elite from a Logitech and loved it. I got the Elite and fell back in love with sim racing. I now have the CSL DD and it’s mind blowing!!! I love it. Love your clear and precise videos with no bull, drama, acting. Just good clear instruction.
@Uninfluenceable
@Uninfluenceable 3 года назад
I don't know if I would call the upgrade mind blowing, let's not oversell this to potential CSL Elite owners because the difference really isn't earth shattering. Peak torque is for sure greater, that I admit. But holding torque isn't that drastically different, and right now the CSL DD is incredibely buggy. Many steering wheels are incompatible still, and there are electromagnetic interference issues with the wheelbase that I highly doubt will be fixed via firmware upgrades as they are physical hardware issues. If you have an H-Pattern shifter, it's basically unusable due to EMI....
@Mesudowoodo
@Mesudowoodo 3 года назад
Finally someone covered sound. Thanks a lot for the review. Looks like I’ll be picking one up by the end of the year.
@4879daniel
@4879daniel 3 года назад
I'm holding off to see what Thrustmaster announces. Likely to beat this on price and lots of retailers to choose from.
@AVGELO
@AVGELO 2 года назад
@@4879daniel this aged well lol
@meek4053
@meek4053 3 года назад
8:04 while the logitech pedals and shifter don't work out of the box without the Logitech base, you can definitely buy adapters which make them compatible, I think this is important to bring up as you can absolutely enjoy the CSL DD and only have to buy a wheel and some adapters rather than spending more hundreds on new pedals and the same again on a new shifter. Personally I recommend the leo bodnar pedal adapter and the same for the shifter adapter, I think they're £25 ish per. The leo bodnar pedal adapter has added benefits of making the pedal travel linear and adjustable using their software.
@MegaIronica
@MegaIronica 3 года назад
Nice to know but still. That's already 50£ and the CSL pedals are like 80 US$. Also considering you can sell your complete logitech rig for around 100-150 you might be covered for the whole pedals + shifter package.
@sch3me505
@sch3me505 3 года назад
@@MegaIronica the only problem with that is the fact that the fanatec stuff can only arrive in November as of 9/09
@Laic27
@Laic27 3 года назад
@@MegaIronica You'll have to pay even more if you want a clutch compared to just some adapters.
@MegaIronica
@MegaIronica 3 года назад
@@Laic27 of course it is more. What I am saying is instead of spending half the price of pedals on adaptons, sell everything old and use the money to buy the new stuff.
@meek4053
@meek4053 3 года назад
@@MegaIronica Okay, let's say I sell all my logitech stuff, wheel, shifter, pedals. The most I will get for them at the moment is £250, that's pushing it even. I want a shifter now, that's at least £100 if I get one of the SHH shifters (plus import fees & taxes, so let's call it £120). Now I buy the new fanatec pedals including a clutch, that's £102, plus £20 shipping, plus the £11.50 fee UPS charges, so now we're at £253. Way over what I think I could get for my entire old setup, and *vastly* outside your estimate of $100 - $150. So no, I think if upgrading to the CSL DD from logitech, get leo bodnar adapters for the £45 it's going to cost you, and you can sell them *for almost no loss* when you're finally ready to properly upgrade.
@calumwilson182
@calumwilson182 3 года назад
2:46 genuinely had me creasing lol. Informative and soooo helpful as always. I have a CSL elite and have done for almost 3 years. I’ve really enjoyed it on the whole however the more I enjoy sim racing, naturally the more I want to upgrade so this review is really helpful. I put an order in last week so should see it come November time. I suspect a bit like others reported with the DD1, that in time games will become better tuned to the wheel base and vice versa with firmware updates that it’ll only get even better so it’s definitely an investment!
@choppa22tv
@choppa22tv 3 года назад
Great video mate, this is what we need a video from someone that doesn't have a dd1 or dd2 and of course this is a slight downgrade, for us Logitech or csl elite owners we need to hear from people that are in the same boat with the wheels they have. I hope to grab one of these soon and appreciate your great review. Keep up the good work mate.
@gerryedwards523
@gerryedwards523 2 года назад
Thank you Danny, very informative. I just ordered my Fanatec set up with the CSL dd, pedals shifter and handbrake, I have to be patient as it will not be available until mid November. However it is always good to hear that one has done something right as I too have been using a G29 for many years and finally decided to step up to DD. That coupled with my new sim rig Trak racer 180 should be a vast improvement on my previous rig. Looking forward to getting it all put together in time for the annual time trials at my house over the holidays. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
@mrmidnight32
@mrmidnight32 2 года назад
Finally a solid review instead of RU-vidrs just trying to sell it so their affiliated links bring them money My question is, is this worth the 2x price tag from a T300rs?
@bluex610
@bluex610 2 года назад
I say yeah, I had the t300rs and it started to show some wear. It still worked but I noticed it would move slightly out of place and I would have to nudge it back center. Also started making more noise. I upgraded to a csl elite and like it a lot better. Would have got the csl DD if I was to upgrade from t300 now. I spent a lot of hours on the t300 and was drifting so that probably contributed to the wear. DD wheels are more reliable also.
@Draecko
@Draecko 3 года назад
I upgraded from a CSW to the CSL DD. I play mostly ACC and equally I found the improvement marginal but noticeable. I'm happy with the switch to DD, but equally bummed out by the money I lost on selling my 8 month old CSW. My advice for Logitech users, wait for the marketplace to be flooded with CSL Elite and CSWs as the DDs are delivered. You'll have nearly the same experience, for less money.
@andreschan5601
@andreschan5601 3 года назад
How many rotation degrees it have?
@Robert.S459
@Robert.S459 3 года назад
@@andreschan5601 CSW V2.5 has a max of 900. CSL DD has 90-2520 in advanced settings.
@Robert.S459
@Robert.S459 3 года назад
Re waiting for the market to be flooded, Logitec/Thrustmaster users will still need a Fanatec wheel, so my opinion is that CSW+Wheel bundles should still make good money. Not going to throw away money for such a small difference in performance gain over a CSW.
@alpenjon
@alpenjon 2 года назад
I got a CSW and F1 carbon wheel usef for a really good price. It is absolutely lovely... besides the DD are still sold out anyways. The previous owner told me long after he sold me his unit he didn't find a big difference comparng the DD with the CSW.
@johnxina2140
@johnxina2140 Год назад
The shot at 2:50 of you using the fanatec DD as a wheel rim is fucking wonderful
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing Год назад
It's actually censored in some countries, far too maverick
@haaspaas2
@haaspaas2 3 года назад
I would buy this in a second if there was a budget option for the actual wheel as well.
@ClvsterDvck
@ClvsterDvck 2 года назад
The wrc wheel isn't too bad right now.
@zethyuen8859
@zethyuen8859 2 года назад
@@ClvsterDvck McLaren seems better
@mrbrittas3254
@mrbrittas3254 2 года назад
yeah like FREE, (included)
@tybick12
@tybick12 2 года назад
@@mrbrittas3254 lol that won't happen, but they should have a no frills $100 wheel option
@reiaza5814
@reiaza5814 2 года назад
@2:46 :D
@gawainian977
@gawainian977 Год назад
Been using my trusty Driving force gt and thanks to this ill likely be upgrading finally to the csl dd! Used this old wheel on everything from iracing, drifting in assetto, to truck sim driving
@TheRomanticsWB
@TheRomanticsWB 2 года назад
Completely true about more saturation of older bases showing up on the market. I picked up a CSW 2.5 for $200.
@NWA_1919
@NWA_1919 3 года назад
The force feedback in acc was definitely designed mainly for a dd wheel. I have a thrustmaster ts-pc (compared to fanatec, i have heard it's between the csl elite, and csw 2.5, in terms of force feedback) the ffb in acc feels ok on my wheel, but not as good as some other sims in all honesty. But with a dd, i've heard many people said that acc has one of the best, if not the best ffb system.
@Jpilgrim30
@Jpilgrim30 2 года назад
Yeah I have an accuforce v2 and have never understood some of the complaints about ACC force feedback. I can feel every detail down to the slight rumble of the engine. It puts a smile on my face every time I flip the ignition switch and push the start button on my button box. 😂 on a sim lab cockpit that engine rumble can be felt through the whole chassis and it’s insanely immersive. I’ve even put off getting a bass transducer setup because it’s almost like having one now.
@kolysion164
@kolysion164 2 года назад
rF2 the best, without doubt
@allanlansdowne340
@allanlansdowne340 3 года назад
You can use the logitech pedals with fanatec gear. You use a Leo Bodnar usb adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920
@miscellaneousgaming1349
@miscellaneousgaming1349 2 года назад
can you use logitech shifter with fanatec base on console?
@jssting
@jssting 3 года назад
I moved from a Thrustmaster T300 base to the CSL DD and with boostkit. I get is so much more information from the wheel and I now understand how vague the belt driven wheels were .. I have also started getting IRFFB optimized to use the CSL DD, so much more alive in iRacing.
@eboz3213
@eboz3213 2 года назад
Ok so getting ready to buy a DD wheel. I have the T300. & I like the wheel . My real only complaint is I don’t feel the tire/ ground mix. & this is the real reason I want a better wheel. Is it really a night & day experience. I only play Iracing. Thanks for any feedback
@gregpruitt1647
@gregpruitt1647 Год назад
I just upgraded to a Fanatec DD wheelbase from a Fanatec Clubsport v1 wheelbase. This means that I already have Fanatec pedals and steering wheels. I use the Fanatec Clubsport desk clamp, and it works much better than I thought it would. The CSL DD is an amazing product. Smooth... smooth... smooth, accurate, crazy detailed feedback, runs cool, etc, and for what these cost, it is the best sim racing bit of gear ever. Wow!
@kristaps2010
@kristaps2010 3 года назад
great review, you have a talent to come up with some really silly stuff 2:46, never laughed so much! thank's mate for perfect morning, I'm in good mood zone now!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
Glad to be of service man, I admit I do laugh at my own jokes
@nGAGE0nline
@nGAGE0nline 3 года назад
Great video, though I'd say: the CSL DD is probably only worth considering if you're already part of the Fanatec Ecosystem and dont have to also buy pedals, wheel, etc. If you're not using compatible Fanatec gear already, it's a full replacement and at minimum 3x more expensive, compared to Logitech. It's definitely NOT entry level gear, no matter how good it is. 1100-1400euro Fanatec setup (base+wheel, pedals, desk-clamp) vs 250-300euro Logitech setup, is out of many people's budget range... especially considering that once you go this route, you'll be more likely to spent a lot more money for a rig/gear. Not something most single-screen, ikea-chair, shakey desk users would do. I'm sure if given the chance, I'd praise it as well, as I do love racing as well, but I dont think this level of gear is worth comparing. One is good build-quality casual driving gear, the other is entry level sim-racing gear. This is like comparing a jet-fighter versus a crop-duster. They both fly and do the job they're designed for, but they're not in the same league.
@bO0mt0wn
@bO0mt0wn 2 года назад
u can get a full csl dd setup for around 620€ just saying. still not cheap but not close to 1100-1400 € >.
@nGAGE0nline
@nGAGE0nline 2 года назад
@@bO0mt0wn Please show me the page where you get that setup. I'd love to see it. But please make sure it's a set with 3 pedals and H patern shifter... coz that's what Logitech offers.
@EazyDuz18
@EazyDuz18 2 года назад
T300 is the best middle ground, almost as good as DD
@spijkerboy666
@spijkerboy666 Год назад
I started with G25 but broke down, bought G27 used both together for 20 years. But today I orderd a csl dd with load cell brake. Wanted it for a real long time. Now it's waiting til I wil receive the package cant wait.
@Godzilla-si3mn
@Godzilla-si3mn 11 месяцев назад
Have you got you wheel already ?
@spijkerboy666
@spijkerboy666 11 месяцев назад
@@Godzilla-si3mn yes placed the order and 5 days later it arrived
@motojauntx
@motojauntx 2 года назад
Dang it! Thanks to reviews like these, I just dropped my order for the GT DD pro bundle with shifter and hand brake. I’ll keep the G923 for split screen with wifey (yes, she gets to drive the fanatec 😅). Gonna need to re-enforce my F-GT Lite cockpit to sustain the 8nm force feedback! So excited. Cheers!
@andymaxwell23
@andymaxwell23 2 года назад
Excellent analogies to help us understand the difference between the CSL Elite and new DD! Nice roundup.
@marksmyth4662
@marksmyth4662 2 года назад
Just ordered mine last weekend and can't wait as upgrading from a g29
@pedromedina2692
@pedromedina2692 3 года назад
My god!! How much i want that upgrade... I own a Logitecg GT Driving Force and still enjoying ACC, can't imagine the upgrade once i'm able. Great Vid.
@ethan8101
@ethan8101 2 года назад
2:45 this really caught me off guard 💀😂
@CzajnikXDDD
@CzajnikXDDD 3 года назад
i upgraded from a g920 to a csl dd without the boost kit. And i can say that everything you said is true, it's is a game-changer. For example in f1 2021 i did a 1 second better lap than my previous best just because of the force feedback (I used g920 with fanatec lc pedals so that is clear). And simracing became something i want to do more often because i enjoy it way more.
@M4RK_F
@M4RK_F 2 года назад
I still use an old g27 and it's bloody awful at F1 2021🤣👏
@fcblfcbasel3985
@fcblfcbasel3985 2 года назад
@@M4RK_F I use the G29 and never know where the limits are, like you never know where you can go faster
@M4RK_F
@M4RK_F 2 года назад
@@fcblfcbasel3985 indeed. Looking forward to be able to get my hands on a fanatec DD. These g27/g29 are proper shit👏🤣
@fcblfcbasel3985
@fcblfcbasel3985 2 года назад
@@M4RK_F Have to spend about 800 Franks(Switzerland)😭😭
@billwiley7216
@billwiley7216 3 года назад
People that are getting the absolute best transition are those that were already in the Fanatec Eco system with a Csl Elite or other belt drive unit and can move up to the crisper fidelity of the Csl DD for just the cost of the wheelbase at under $500 as they already own the pedals and have wheels which are compatible. Those still shopping for actual entry level gear at those entry level price points will not spend what it cost for the Csl DD just like they did not spend the entry cost for the original CSL Elite. Those on a tight budget looking to upgrade from the Logitech/ TM 150 class of gear should be able to find some decent prices on used belt driven Csl and Csw wheelbases over the next year or so which will still be a solid upgrade . Still will need to buy the wheel and pedals though. I did the the Logitech to Csl Elite to the 8nm Csl DD path myself and yes I can feel a lot of difference and feel the upgrade was worthwhile. I do mostly play ACC. I had also upgraded from the original Csl loadcell pedals to the v3"s a year or so ago as well. Personally I am going to keep my original Csl stuff stored away as a back up unit rather than sell it. I always like having a back up option available but in todays times with some of the lead times till products come back in stock and available having a backup seems more like a good idea than ever before. Also at this time I have no plans to buy a Playstation 5 and have unhooked and stored my PS4 away but my Csl Elite is PS compatible where my new DD is not if I were to change my mind down the road. I had stored my old Logitech away in its original box as a backup but now I will probably give someone just starting out a decent deal on the the G29 and a GT Omega wheel stand that is doing nothing but collecting dust. I feel that the DD is a good upgrade and for the average sim racer that plans to stick with sim racing the Fanatec line of gear and ecosystem is a good value and of a quality that should satisfy most casual racers. Not everyone wants to invest top tier money for the highest end stuff available to play a racing game on their PC but does want decent gear at an affordable price point. Fanatec can meet the criteria! Honestly starting from scratch this is not inexpensive gear with a 5nm dd wb at $350, wheel at $199 and cheapest non load cell pedals at another $80 you are looking at $630 plus tax and shipping and with the 8nm unit around $760 plus tax and shipping. Not to mention that most people that go to this level of wheelbase will want to add on a loadcell brake option which right now is only available with the V3 pedal option. It will be coming out for the new CSL pedals but no one knows when or its actual cost yet. Good informative video that touches on all the important aspects of doing the upgrade or those considering buying a Csl DD.
@Derpy-qg9hn
@Derpy-qg9hn 2 года назад
Not to mention a rig and chair to put it on. I'm absolutely not confident that a table clamp can handle 5nm, my old TMX's clamp feels like trash already and that wheel's pretty wimpy.
@bennson13
@bennson13 2 года назад
Super informative and I got a good laugh when you were using the base as the wheel. Subscribed
@llama1910
@llama1910 2 года назад
Thanks for this review! I watched a couple videos about the CSL DD, but this is the one answered all my question. I use the CSL Elite and mostly drive ACC. What finally sold it, was your comment about noise. I too do not like my neighbours to be disturbed by noisy FFB in action, a reason why I had to stay away from many cool racing communities which start at times too late for noise.
@misterdog7
@misterdog7 3 года назад
I upgraded from a CSL elite to the 5nm version, also a major improvement here. Better FFB, smoother, more detail and enough strength for me.
@sethlouden2529
@sethlouden2529 3 года назад
What if your poor and my logitech was a stretch to buy is it worth another stretch
@sethlouden2529
@sethlouden2529 3 года назад
You have the best review of the dd just don't know of the money is worth it to my budget and I'm on a console
@misterdog7
@misterdog7 3 года назад
@@sethlouden2529 Only works on Xbox. This is worth another stretch but you'll need a wheel and pedals too. Rather buy bread instead lol
@kalyanpm6803
@kalyanpm6803 3 года назад
@@sethlouden2529 No offense, but if you're poor, you shouldn't be thinking of a luxury product.
@Racerjames666
@Racerjames666 2 года назад
@@kalyanpm6803 or.......hear me out.........life is short.
@noahhoffman4475
@noahhoffman4475 3 года назад
2:46 I love this moment. btw, great vid, just ordered it
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
Haha, I love that somehow RU-vid plays this clip when you hover over the thumbnail with the mouse on the homepage. It knows. Thanks for the comment!
@JuynBiets
@JuynBiets 3 года назад
Yep, I’m the one who started with a G29 and moved up to a Fanatec CSL elite. It was such a huge step in terms of immersion. I was thinking about buying a CSL DD too, but a lot of reviews on here told me that it wasn’t a big upgrade compared to the CSL Elite. Now I just went all in and ordered a DD1, and then I’ll have a rig that doesn’t need any more upgrading!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
For sure, if the gap between G29 and CSL Elite is 100% extra, the gap to the CSL DD is more like 25% extra - but for something that replaces the current lineup at the same price, that's a 'free' upgrade. I feel sorry for folks that couldn't get hold of a CSL/CSW all through the summer but now it's coming back into their court with this!
@JuynBiets
@JuynBiets 3 года назад
@@dannyleeracing yeah you’re right! My way of thinking was more: If I buy the CSL DD, there will always be a voice in the back of my head saying that there is still something better out there
@trevz1048
@trevz1048 3 года назад
@@JuynBiets but there's still something better than the dd1 if you think that way
@JuynBiets
@JuynBiets 3 года назад
@@trevz1048 you’re right. But for us as regular simracers it won’t get much better than the DD1.
@jaredgould3143
@jaredgould3143 5 месяцев назад
I recently upgraded from a G25 to CSL Elite and you're right, that is a massive jump. It's like going from 480i to 1080p. I reckon the DD would be like going to 4k, which like you say, isn't mind blowing. I kept my G25 pedals and added a Leo Bodnar cable to use them independently. Definitely looking for deals on loadcells now.
@Bajomano
@Bajomano 3 года назад
Definately a huge improvement for those who come from Logitech/Thrustmaster wheel bases, also a noticeable improvement for CSL Elite users but a very small change for CSW 2.5 users.., its not worth to sell this base for half of its price having to add extra 250-300€ in order to get the CSL DD 8Nm bundle...
@joost1183
@joost1183 2 года назад
There is proof that other PSU's in the range of 30-50€ work to unlock 8nm.
@huttonberries768
@huttonberries768 2 года назад
T-GT II wasn't an enormous step up tbh
@AllusiveAgent
@AllusiveAgent 2 года назад
Pretty much what I wanted to hear, Thanks.
@christopherthomsen3926
@christopherthomsen3926 2 года назад
Glad I saw this video! A week ago, I bought a rseat rig and pre ordered the new Fanatec Gran Turismo DD premium bundle. To keep me occupied until it arrives, I bought a used G29. And…. What a disappointment. Almost started doubting if I should have gotten into sim racing. I have had a lot of fast cars, and driven a lot on the Nürburgring, and the Logitech is so not realistic. So I’m happy to hear how BIG of a treat I’m in for. Thanks!
@marklaw7270
@marklaw7270 2 года назад
Thanks for this review! Really great and detailed review with a clear conclusion! (Too many reviews don't actually include any conclusion) Looks like I'll need to get one!
@robn71
@robn71 3 года назад
I've upgrade from a G29 to the CSL DD and shall we say I haven't stop smiling and I'm so so pleased I took the jump
@mike_33gt
@mike_33gt 2 года назад
I’m curious how my wife will jump when I tell her I spent 1.1k euro for that
@Kodiak8788
@Kodiak8788 2 года назад
I think you have just sold me on finally upgrading. I've had the Logitech G29 for years and prior to that, the G27. Fanatec just announced the Polyphony Digital licensed GT DD Pro setup for PS/PC and that's what I have been waiting for. A relatively affordable DD setup compatible with PS5 and PC. I love my PC sims but I also love Gran Turismo. Going to preorder the GT DD Pro premium bundle that includes the brake/clutch upgrade and the power boost upgrade. Thanks for making this video!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
Are you a UK customer perchance? Just about to upload a video with important things to know about brexit shipping!
@Kodiak8788
@Kodiak8788 2 года назад
@@dannyleeracing No sir, I am from the states. I was curious on how the VAT and international shipping is going to work seeing as how I've never ordered internationally or from Fanatec before. Also not certain that will be applicable due to Fanatec having a US based website. Not sure if they distribute from a US location as well...
@nycsox987
@nycsox987 2 года назад
This has been the video I've been looking for. Been running a G27 for over 7 years at this point, so looking for an upgrade. Great video, thanks.
@EndureRacing
@EndureRacing 3 года назад
making the jump from t300rs to csl dd.. can't wait to see the improvements and differences 😛😛
@Snijkamp
@Snijkamp 2 года назад
How was it?
@Anonnymouse53
@Anonnymouse53 2 года назад
My CSL DD 8Nm arrived today, I already had VR and rumble feedback. I was using the G29. I played previously on a friend's CSL Elite - I'd say that was more than twice the experience of the G29, I expected the CSL DD to just be better yet. But the CSL DD feels like a whole different thing, the jump is lightyears ahead of my Logitech. I could see a time where I want 25% more force, but only for immersion - it feels like all the detail & force required is there to feel the full effect of the simulation and it's blowing my mind. Even before I tuned in some settings I was a very happy customer.
@MRD0889
@MRD0889 11 месяцев назад
My CSL DD and kit is on its way =) upgrading from a g920
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 11 месяцев назад
Come back and let us know how you get on with it! You got the 5nm kit or the 8nm kit?
@MRD0889
@MRD0889 11 месяцев назад
@dannyleeracing okay.. let me start off with the main two bads of this experience. The template on their website is not correct. It's off, and I had to make my own template. The second bad thing is the no including of the M6 screws.. I had to grind two of them down because the DD isn't machined equally, so the outside screws that I had were longer and could have dented the case/body. Other than that.. let me just say.. Whatever RU-vidr says that a direct drive won't make you faster... yea that's a lie.. just in the DD alone, I'm able to be accurate on turning beautifully on a corner.. ATM I have it on 3 NM, and I didn't get myself the boost kit. I'll bring it to 5nm next week. I want to see how much of a difference increasing the FFB will show by next week. This tech is nasty, my guy. It's definitely a must-have if you want to sim race or just sit back and run laps by yourself . Waiting on my shifter, I didn't go with Fanatec because I wanted to set myself a budget and not blow it all in one sale, lol I like to upgrade as I go, and it keeps me more attached to the Hobbie. Oh!! And as for the load cell brake.. Messed with the force in their app and got it to where I felt I could manipulate and memorize the brake pressure. 100% did it for me, I'm super confident in low pump of the brakes now and keep the cars inertia as smooth as possible It's definitely a huge game changer, lol
@tkmfub2048
@tkmfub2048 10 месяцев назад
Can confirm, it was a massive step up and now i gotta get a new rig that does it justice. Just a matter of when not if as you said.....
@Nothing2NV
@Nothing2NV 2 года назад
I’ve begun to depend on your videos as i begin my journey into sim racing. Thank you for. your work
@dev1lfishracing79
@dev1lfishracing79 2 года назад
Can’t see any flex later in the video so must just have been me….great video by the way Danny, really like your informative style.
@CraigHlavka
@CraigHlavka Год назад
Nice video. I almost went CSL DD route. Ended up going Sigmagic Alpha Mini. It's in the mail.. currently have a Fanatec CSL elite v1.1
@jameshardy6277
@jameshardy6277 2 года назад
I've had G27, TS-PC Racer, and currently CSL Elite. I've tried a Simucube 30nm wheel and was simply blown away by how immediately intuitive and instinctive driving is. I'm going DD1/2 as soon as I can find on this week.
@ClevelandBeemer
@ClevelandBeemer Год назад
@Danny Lee This is an interesting video. I wish there was more insight behind the choice between the CSW 2.5 and the CSD DD w/ boost kit. Both are 8nm, so how big of a difference is there really? I understand what DD can offer, but my point is the performance gap large enough to go from a CSW 2.5 to a CSL DD. My initial thought it probably not. I suspect the better upgrade for CSW 2.5 customers would be a more powerful DD1 or comparable DD.
@Arokh1997
@Arokh1997 2 года назад
Very good video. For putting the tl;dr first alone, you deserve waaay more views :D
@RTR_RRoomes73
@RTR_RRoomes73 2 года назад
I am brand new to sim racing and actually bought a G29. The good thing is that they would not have delivered till the end of January and I did the purchase on Amazon at the beginning of December. Then I caught wind of the GT CSL DD Pro for PS. After reading up and watch RU-vid, I canceled my order and immediately order the DD. This is my first wheel and I have not played any driving games since GT 4 and F12015. So I am really a rookie. So I am eagerly waiting for delivery. I have my Omega Classic already and will eventually get the wheelbase after my pocket recovers from this purchase.
@quandaledingle7861
@quandaledingle7861 2 года назад
Looking to get one how is it and is the price worth it ?
@EnbyMiata
@EnbyMiata 3 года назад
I've gone from a G920 to a CSL Elite just shy of a year ago. For the first 6-7 months, it was constant hell with wheelbase, wheel rim and pedal set glitches and game breaking firmware bugs, to the point where I had to reinstall the firmware package and drivers twice. Now that I got the bad stuff out of the way, I have to say everything else is far, far better. The Clubsport V3 pedals are a major improvement in every way. I've found myself becoming much more consistent and even improving my one lap pace with these pedals, the loadcell brakes are amazing. Also, you can say goodbye to pedal flickering, which is something that plagued my old pedals to the point where they were unusable. The wheelbase is leagues ahead with it force feedback, with the G920 you could barely feel any detail beyond a very weak simulation of holding cornering forces, but you can feel so much more with the CSL Elite.
@samuellp1146
@samuellp1146 2 года назад
will you upgrade to csl dd?
@EnbyMiata
@EnbyMiata 2 года назад
@@samuellp1146 I'm planning to fully revamp my rig with a Simucube wheelbase and Heusinkveld pedals. I don't think it's worth it to upgrade from the CSL Elite to the CSL DD.
@samuellp1146
@samuellp1146 2 года назад
@@EnbyMiata wow that's some serious rig (not to mention pricing), you sound like you are rebuilding from ground up. Please let me know how it goes🙏
@samuellp1146
@samuellp1146 2 года назад
@@EnbyMiata curious, you didn't have by any chance sell a Fanatec Clubsport Universal Hub V2 With Quick Release?
@jessejames1999
@jessejames1999 Год назад
Got my rig and been using g29 from start as fanatec been sold out for months, ordered my fanatec yesterday with nm boost . Can't wait to try
@Bob-huisbaas
@Bob-huisbaas 3 года назад
Coming from the Clubsport base here and also running the CSL DD. Over on the fanatec reddit someone explained it quite well. The Clubsport has more holding torque and feels more like power steering, but it is a bit slower. The CSL DD has slighty less strenght, but it is far, far more direct then the clubsport, but with casual driving this is really not that noticable. Now that i've put some hours in to the CSL DD i've kept slides i would never have dreamt of holding, even in iracing.
@vbrans
@vbrans 2 года назад
I purchased the GT DD Pro which is virtually the same as the CSL DD. Coming from the g923, Im so excited!!
@xX504kidXx
@xX504kidXx 2 года назад
dropping a like for a nice review, when i get my dd i’ll be coming here for the link to support. great video
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
Cheers man, thanks for dropping by! Appreciate you taking a sec to pocket the link, it really does make a big impact.
@skywatcher9076
@skywatcher9076 Год назад
Mine comes tomorrow I had a logitech also for 8 years now I get my fanatec clubsport xbox bundle csl dd (8nm)elite pedals and Podium Button Module and shifter I'll be ordering another wheel rim next week can't wait
@timthetallman6651
@timthetallman6651 3 года назад
I wonder if part of the reason that the CSL DD shines in ACC is through the track laser scanning. The DD can accurately transmit all of those extra little track details through to you, the driver, due to its higher fidelity. Great vid btw, super helpful and informative - I've definitely got the CSL DD on my wishlist!
@vinny9152
@vinny9152 3 года назад
If I can recall, ACC has a max force feedback bandwidth of 333 Hz. This is very good for translating those track details into force feedback granularity. But ultimately, the CSL DD shines in ACC because it is capable of reproducing the full bandwidth given from ACC due to its low moment of inertia and decent torque output.
@timthetallman6651
@timthetallman6651 3 года назад
@@vinny9152 Ah very cool, very cool! Thanks
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
@Vinny Science, yo
@syLLyTime
@syLLyTime 3 года назад
If this were the case, iRacing would shine too as the tracks are laser scanned as well
@timthetallman6651
@timthetallman6651 3 года назад
@@syLLyTime Ah - I have zero knowledge of iRacing haha so I was unaware
@MatthewRunyon-n4g
@MatthewRunyon-n4g Год назад
I used a G29 for a decent while, thought it felt fine, till I got a CSL DD recently and it is absolutely light years ahead of the Logitech, completely transformed every single sim I tried, it's just a hundred times better in every way.
@saturnmedia1
@saturnmedia1 Год назад
2:44 I caught that. Very cheeky add in. Lol
@TomTheSurgen1
@TomTheSurgen1 2 года назад
Perfect! Think you’ve made my decision to go from g29
@Porsalin
@Porsalin 3 года назад
Just took the plunge and bought a CSL DD with the CSL Formula v2.5 wheel. Had a G29 for years so cannot wait to see what DD is finally like.
@stogger18kian96
@stogger18kian96 3 года назад
Exactly the same setup and just ordered Mine today
@dirtysouthracingnetwork8830
@dirtysouthracingnetwork8830 2 года назад
How long did it take you to get your wheel I just ordered a DD bundle and was wondering how long shipping took
@Porsalin
@Porsalin 2 года назад
@@dirtysouthracingnetwork8830 It took around 2 months in total. Totally worth the wait though - it's incredible.
@demogun
@demogun Год назад
I love myself to make this step about a week ago. So much different. But I am also grateful for my previous 10+ years as a logitech user. I learnt a lot with that as well. I think fanatec is just too much for starting with. it can easily happen that at the end you think simracing is not for you and then you just throw away hundreds of dollars, while if you just keep it low cost to slowly learn what does this hobby mean and how much it would cost to get what you really need you can save a lot. Also, its worth mentioning that logitech is more than you think. I know by experience that you can get much more from a logitech wheel or pedal if you have patience and time. But a regular user wants out of the box solutions and uses logitech as it comes.
@maddenker
@maddenker 3 года назад
I have the Leo Bodner cable for my G29 pedals, so I assume I can still use them with the CSL DD. Is this true?
@gsoulracing566
@gsoulracing566 3 года назад
Yeah you're good bro :)
@immrchris
@immrchris 3 года назад
I upgraded from a CSW 2.5, I mainly play ACC, it's a little upgrade you can definatley feel more and it's much smoother, but the silence..... oh the silence, I love it.
@Abashsbike
@Abashsbike 3 года назад
awesome video, im upgrading from a g920 to your same setup, sadly I waited too long to order so I gotta wait until November. still very excited thou
@stevencorner7241
@stevencorner7241 3 года назад
It's well worth it,I'm from csl elite and it gives you so much more feel and a complete control over the car,less spinning and track limits under control.you get more consistent lap times without trying to hard.A must buy guys,you won't regret it for a second.
@ch4shu461
@ch4shu461 2 года назад
control.you
@shant
@shant 2 года назад
complete opposite for me, is there something wrong with my wheel? I spin out of control on the easiest turns which would never happen with a controller, it even oscillates on straightways where i have to fight the wheel to keep the car straight. real cars dont behave that way. something is not right.
@stefanbuchwald5397
@stefanbuchwald5397 2 года назад
Little late but hey ... How does it feel from 6nm to 5nm or you buy the 8nm kit?
@stevencorner7241
@stevencorner7241 2 года назад
8nm 2years later
@canadianoperator
@canadianoperator Год назад
So, I had a G923 for about 2 weeks and I couldn’t stand it. It was loud, clunky, loud, not really strong enough, loud and kinda cheap feeling. Oh, and it was loud. I finally decided to pull the trigger on the Fanatec GR DD Pro. I got the premium bundle, and on top of that I got the same McLaren GT3 wheel seen in the video. And I went deeper still. I decided that if I was going to get a DD, I needed to just commit. So….. I also got a sim rig and a buttkicker. I can’t wait to put everything together when it arrives because I have a feeling with my surround sound (physical and headphone) and VR, it’s gonna be an out of this world experience.
@2nalodt
@2nalodt 2 года назад
I Love the Chicago Pizza Reference!
@ddsgardening7437
@ddsgardening7437 2 года назад
Most informative, been wondering about how much difference from my g29 set up ,Cheers mate excellent 👍
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
You will absolutely love it coming from a G29 - there's no doubt at all that it's made every minute of gameplay better, it's a vast difference especially if you've never tried out a superior wheel. I loved my G29, but I didn't know what I was missing til I'd spent far too much time with it!
@funnyxo
@funnyxo 10 месяцев назад
Excellent video bro. Lots of useful info and makes me want one. But i like the simplicity of a console and don't have a suitable pc. The problem is it's a big investment if you are starting from scratch. I have a PS3. So would need at least a PS4 and GTDD. Or a gaming pc and full csl kit. Same price either way. Keep up the great work.
@sirkdot
@sirkdot 4 месяца назад
Just ordered a csl dd with the csl elite wrc wheel as i think the wheel is sunning.feel like i can mow take my sim racing journey to that next level. I play alot of acc on a TM T248 and it’s hard to enjoy it. Hope this is as legit as you say as i can’t wait for it to turn up.
@woodcote7617
@woodcote7617 3 года назад
£300 Logitech G923 vs £1000 Fanatec setup..so the question is that £700 difference worth it? Simracing is my hobby which i am lucky enough to be able to indulge in pretty much when i want to. I have hooked up with a couple of great communities and regularly take part in close fair and respectful races and leagues. I could have kept the Logitech setup and been perfectly happy but now i know what load cell and DD does for the simracing experience I would recommend to anyone that knows they like simracing and have time and money to spend on their hobby not to bother starting with Logitech but hold off and invest straight into DD. Danny made two very good points.... 'the DD is the blue ray version' and the simracing experience becomes more about muscle memory and feel as opposed to visual queues...
@johnmurphy5161
@johnmurphy5161 2 года назад
great vid man. im jumping from t300 to the dd pro. have to wait over 3mths tho, and my t300 servo jus packed in.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
Cheers man! Ah mate that's bad/good timing...
@PixelGod240
@PixelGod240 3 года назад
This is the type of review I was looking for!!! Awesome I’m gonna sub!
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
Awesome, thank you! Cheers for the kind comment
@MrDomo92
@MrDomo92 3 года назад
I bought the V3 pedals going from logitech and its night and day. I feel like a can acually race and not be scared being close to ppl coming into braking zones and also my consistency and lap times has improved. I now have a DD1 on order to upgrade my g29 wheel and I cant wait to feel how much of a difference it will be compared to the g29.
@austinpetemo
@austinpetemo 3 года назад
I did the same thing. I'd read they sucked but I didn't realize just how bad the g29 pedals were until I felt the v3.
@vinivarella8508
@vinivarella8508 3 года назад
so how is the DD1? It’s been 1 month lol
@MrDomo92
@MrDomo92 3 года назад
@@vinivarella8508 I canceled the order of the dd1 and got the simucube 2 pro instead and its awesome
@DoomSkullYT
@DoomSkullYT 3 года назад
great video with great info, thanks! I drive on the G29, and whilst i'm happy with it, i now crave a DD wheel. Would love to see how this performs in rally and f1
@2ndLastJedi
@2ndLastJedi 3 года назад
DVD to Bluray....that made things clearer 🤣This is a good way to explain the difference though.
@jakehiggins5118
@jakehiggins5118 Год назад
Just ordered the $400 Ready2Race bundle and I can't wait for it to come in! Currently using a G920 so it's going to be a massive upgrade.
@dennisblackie73
@dennisblackie73 11 месяцев назад
Oh mate I just ordered the $800 Ready2Race with 8nm csl elite v2 pedals and the mclaren wheel... I cant wait for it!!! I come from g29 so probably I m getting the same experience as u. So how does it feel a month later, how long did it take u to get used to it?
@NotsoWeis
@NotsoWeis 9 месяцев назад
I am just about to do the same? How is it?? I think Im gonna get the WRC wheel for looks
@ElBantosClips
@ElBantosClips 2 года назад
I used a fanatec once on assetto Corsa and it was a whole new world from my g29. I was able to set a record and win a trophy against hundreds of other people, I even bet the owner of that simulator company lol. It just felt so good, I could feel the tyres and the grip and feeling the car let go was so easy to recognize and save. The g29 is just the feeling of the motors and cogs and the car is already sideways before I can feel it. So I guess Logitech you have to learn to use your eyes to keep the car in check as opposed to fanatecs where you can pretty much focus on the racing line and use the feedback in your arms to keep the car in check. G29 isn't a 'bad' wheel. Its a cost effective way for most people to get into wheel sim racing. But fanatecs are just next level
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh 2 года назад
2:44 excellent work lol
@Lagahan
@Lagahan 3 года назад
I had the same experience going from a CSW 2.5 to a direct drive wheel on ACC, seems like the high frequency stuff was getting damped out by the belt or something. Feels like a completely different game!
@JamesCook76131
@JamesCook76131 2 года назад
Really? I’ll need to upgrade from my csl elite
@johndrippert3289
@johndrippert3289 2 года назад
I just finished setting up my DD CSL this afternoon. I came from a Thrustmaster T300 RS and the DD CSL is a night and day difference to the good. One thing, don't bother with the 5nm base power supply. Do like Danny Lee and get the 8nm Booster upgrade.
@CigsInABlanket
@CigsInABlanket 2 года назад
Considering the 5nm version comes with 2 years of warranty by default, while the 8nm only comes with 1 year of warranty, really makes me question the longevity of these products.
@charleslechair9909
@charleslechair9909 2 года назад
2:42 "sometimes my genius is quite frightening"
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
hehe
@claeswikberg8958
@claeswikberg8958 3 года назад
the price doesn't include tax and shipping... (correction, no VAT is included ) so its a rather huge step up up in price from a logitech G27 seeing that i have to purchase pedals aswell. and when you opened that "can or worms" it seems almost kind of wrong not to get a pair of heusinkveld...
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 3 года назад
480 Euro is including tax. In the EU, tax is included in the price. I didn’t check what shipping costs in the EU, but in the US it was $12… Total was $520. Logitechs are $300-$400, so no $500 isn’t a big step in price. Plus there’s nothing stopping you from using your Logitech pedals. Additionally, if I paid myself minimum wage for every hour i spent dealing with GHUB bullshit my Logitech products cost well over $1000 lol
@adhominem_
@adhominem_ 3 года назад
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad wait... you can use logitec pedals with DD?
@claeswikberg8958
@claeswikberg8958 3 года назад
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad hmmm just checked now, it it does indeed say including tax so thanks for correcting me on that one!, last i checked i could have been sure it said excluding tax... now i just need a 200-300€ stearing wheel and ill be all set ;) Joking aside, i'm extremely tempted...
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 3 года назад
@@adhominem_ Yes and no. If you have multiple USB ports free you can leave you Logitech plugged in.
@1976Cordoba
@1976Cordoba 2 года назад
When my Logitech G29 failed after 4 months I got Fanatec CSW 2.5 and I have to say that the Logitech crapping the bed so early was actually a blessing because it kept me from trudging on for months or maybe years with it. The CSW 2.5 feels so much better. Now, years later, I am considering the step to a DD wheel and I have to say based on my experiences with the 2.5 wheel that Fanatec is definitely in that conversation.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
The CSW 2.5 was a fine old thing, according to folks' views the CSL DD 8nm won't be a great deal different to the CSW 2.5 so if you want an undisputed upgrade you're looking at a full fat DD, but then again your old CSW will sell to make the CSL DD a fair 'sidegrade' for not much money when the old base is sold
@dasmoools606
@dasmoools606 2 года назад
Got curious, despite having a DD2. Its obviously no where near a DD2, however.. what shocked me? Was.. Fanatecs essentially canabilizing its DD1 market. Why? The CSL DD is basically.. the DD1, it feels better than the DD1 for some odd reason, sure, it has less peak torque, but it feels a lot more like a DD2's motor than anything else. Smooth, crisp, responsive and quite abit more feel in the upper ranges with the boost kit. So to anyone looking into the DD1, hold off.. try out the CSL DD, GT DD PRO and the Moza R9, they may deliver pretty much what you desire and then some, whilst costing significantly less. I've gotten to the point of calling the CSL DD and GT DD, basically the Mini DD2. Sure its obviously lacking in a fair number of ways compared to its big brother, but.. its almost like it takes what was the best of the DD2 and the best of the CSL Elite, so. FFB, Feel, Fidelity, Smoothness of the DD2 and the compactness of the CSL Elite. Course now, the Moza R9 honestly.. blows it out of the water, but to get a decent setup with a Moza R9 you'll need a rig, its not a desktop DD aaannnd, its about a 1000 just for the R9 and GS Wheel, not including pedals, but well worth it. So the CSL DD an GT DD, basically destroy the premium belt driven market, utterly so. Why buy a Logi or Thrustmaster, when just for a lil bit more, you could get the CSL DD, a McLaren GT3 Wheel ( Honestly the BEST Budget wheel on the market imo ) and the new CSL Pedals, that are STUPID cheap for how high quality they are and modular.. doneso deal right?
@CJ-uh8bk
@CJ-uh8bk 2 года назад
I only started sim racing 7 months ago, I’ve been on the Logitech G29 for those 7 months, the wheel definitely has a gear ⚙️ feel about it, but the force feedback is good for the price, however the pedals are relatively cheap, I just got a Playseat Challenge yesterday for a cockpit, and my CSL pedals with the loadcell kit arrive later today, but this DD is definitely on my radar for the future
@mike617
@mike617 Год назад
Seen your comment figured id check in…hows your setup? Have you upgraded? Im currently running thrustmaster (sim racing for 4 months now) but I want to switch over to fanatec
@CJ-uh8bk
@CJ-uh8bk Год назад
@@mike617 Still on my G29 and it's still going strong, CSL pedals with the loadcell brake made a huge difference and I would 100% recommend, as for the CSL dd I'm thinking about ordering one in a month or 2
@mike617
@mike617 Год назад
@@CJ-uh8bk awesome, Iv been running load cell pedals they are amazing…I’m about to switch over to fanatec I believe…o was thinking the DD1 but I think I’m going to save some money and go with the DD pro
@CJ-uh8bk
@CJ-uh8bk 11 месяцев назад
@@mike617update I just ordered myself a CSL DD and McLaren GT3 V2 wheel rim for Christmas, can’t wait
@Tugennov
@Tugennov Год назад
Amazing video! Thanks for the hard work.
@citedcanvas85
@citedcanvas85 3 года назад
Quite like this brand but in South Africa making the upgrade from the ligitech to this is simply wayy too expensive
@jxc7343
@jxc7343 2 года назад
Bought a G923 to try, love racing with a wheel, but hate the gears and the noise it makes, going to return it soon. Bought a Csl DD, McLaren Gt3 v2, and Csl Pedals, cant wait for july.
@musicmate70
@musicmate70 3 года назад
Hi Danny I like how you have the GT3 wheel looking with the stickers I recently changed to a used CSW2.5 with that rim & the WRC one to run WRC10 & the v3 pedal which are a big step up for my T-GT set up I have kept looking at the CSL DD but could justify it atm love your videos mate very nice & easy to understand & watch & listen to.
@MikeHoncho24ever
@MikeHoncho24ever 3 года назад
I had a csl elite and pre ordered the 5nm csl dd. When I got my shipping email I then purchased the 8nm power pack to make sure I got them both as I wanted to try the lower one to see what it’s like. My first impressions was how smooth it was, you literally cannot put it into words. But strait away I noticed the lack of power. I had to jack up the strength settings in iracing for it to feel decent compared to the csl elite. To me it felt like 3/4 of the power of the elite at best. When I installed the 8nm power unit the csl dd came to life. It felt like the power had been doubled. Going from a elite to a 5nm dd is a sideways upgrade at best. All your gaining is the lack of teeth feeling and no free play in the center of the wheel while trading force feed back strength. But I would say that the 8nm csl dd feels like twice the wheel as the elite for just $150 more.
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 3 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to comment with this, that's really valuable feedback to those who see it - as I ordered it with the boost kit I didn't get the standard power supply to compare as I'd have been interested to see!
@pasteghost428
@pasteghost428 Год назад
2:45 😂 nice one, man 😆
@RamyHaramy
@RamyHaramy 2 года назад
I had the G27 and just pulled the trigger on the GT DD Pro :)
@dannyleeracing
@dannyleeracing 2 года назад
Noice - come back and let us know what you think!
@kdubb366
@kdubb366 3 года назад
Also you can use a third party set of pedals with Fanatec hardware and third party wheels. You just need the Universal Hub for wheels and as long as the game you're playing supports multiple controllers you can use peripherals from anyone. I run a DD1 with Heusinkveld pedals with no issue.
@jeppepuus
@jeppepuus 3 года назад
What games does not support multiple controllers? I persume most games do because if not that could be a massive problem.
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