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Going through VShojo's Audition Reactions + Advice Stream | Hololive Confirms Return to Bilibili 

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Комментарии : 67   
@NousagiCaptain
@NousagiCaptain 20 дней назад
Vshojo 100% does Nepotism hires. That’s fine. I just don’t like the denial of it. Just say: “Yes, we do” it works for your group.
@rancidiot
@rancidiot 19 дней назад
To prove a point the upcoming recruit will be non nepo. Yes if mint applies they she won't be the next one get in to make a statement 😜
@mranonymous00
@mranonymous00 19 дней назад
that is even worse because they are doing auditions
@NousagiCaptain
@NousagiCaptain 19 дней назад
@@mranonymous00 I don't think it's worse, being honest is way better than getting peoples hopes up. Calling it "auditions" is the real problem imo. They prob shoulda just said: "Apply to get added to a list of potential candidates, but nothings guaranteed."
@ceresbane
@ceresbane 19 дней назад
Thing is the nepo hires also make sense as a talent hire. They're friends who make good numbers with very few rivalling them. So even if they weren't friends, they'd still be hired. So there's a degree of plausible deniability.
@GiblixStudio
@GiblixStudio 19 дней назад
people often shout nepotism when they don't understand what they're talking about. can't really take such people serious
@stilllearning4862
@stilllearning4862 20 дней назад
Well, holo have mainland Chinese fans, but some of them expressed concerns about hololive going back to China. They certainly does not want a repeat of all those shitshow, and I'm a Chinese myself - peace is a priority.
@fordhos747
@fordhos747 20 дней назад
Thank you for your information
@BeforeON3
@BeforeON3 19 дней назад
They just do one time event on blibli tho... Why everyone so overreacting.
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 19 дней назад
Yeah. I feel this is more on "making peace" than "appeal to crowd"
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 19 дней назад
​@@BeforeON3well, Coco harassment and stuff happens there are terrible and annoying, even for 4chan standard. Those trolls were overreacting first.
@kuroneco-j4n
@kuroneco-j4n 20 дней назад
While I don't think Hololive returning to Chinese media is going to be the best idea for them and their talents, It's been over 3 years since the incident, yet we also must remember that Hololive is still universally loved by the Chinese internet so it would be kind of weird to not give back to the people in China, so I assume this is why they are doing this, even if it means taking risks. At the end of the day the talents need money to continue what they love doing, I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a pie chart on what money received to Hololive talents via superchat goes towards and I remember a large majority of it going back to the talents themselves as well as other ones possibly, so I wouldn't be surprised if for other methods of profit they would also go back to the talents, so it's best not to jump to conclusions and just see what happens. The rest I can say is that I will be supporting the talents nonetheless and wish for their safety. It also kind of reminds me when Red Velvet (k-pop girl group) performed in North Korea in a sense lol
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 19 дней назад
It's more like Cover want to make peace to everyone/ not making enemies. Yeah, even to AH and jerks. I mean if they keep avoiding Chinese market, it's not good for future business. I do hope they tread more carefully
@user-wo6zu2vh8f
@user-wo6zu2vh8f 19 дней назад
I understand what is Hololive doing but I still doubt Chinese internet.
@roeypalmspaghetti1072
@roeypalmspaghetti1072 14 дней назад
@@hafirenggayudanot good for business? China’s economy is going downhill. From a failing streaming market, to a huge housing crisis.
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 14 дней назад
@@roeypalmspaghetti1072 they're still the biggest market vtuber can get, unironically so
@dynamotexan
@dynamotexan 13 дней назад
There any truth about the hard cap of screen time for Chinese youth? And if so, follow-up question would be how strict/ ease to bypass the censors?
@suhnih4076
@suhnih4076 20 дней назад
Damn i really hope hololive knows what they're doing
@raderelcaroman1403
@raderelcaroman1403 20 дней назад
Going back to CN is another incident waiting to happen
@NeoArcon
@NeoArcon 20 дней назад
This was my worry when Hololive went public, they have to follow share holder demands to expand and "growth". Hopefully, best case scenario is nothing happens and worst case scenario is something happen but not too bad and Cover give up on the Chinese market because of how volatile it is.
@deeplearn5126
@deeplearn5126 20 дней назад
I see this as Hololive back to CN or Chinese speaking fans for the sake of their genuine loyal Hololive fans. Whether you like it or not, there are still many loyal fans. Who also defended Hololive talents when they were attacked by the CN antis. But I doubt Cover will doing long term business in there. Just selling the merchs for the Chinese speaking fans and let just Kobo doing stream at B2.
@bananasandwich8335
@bananasandwich8335 20 дней назад
True… and I’m here for it!
@cucumbermainline
@cucumbermainline 19 дней назад
Hololive fans will seethe when bts there are talents who wants that market. It's naive to think that these talents don't know business. What you should want is for Cover management to have proper support system and response in case the bad happens. It's not just from China nationalist as well as from Western activists.
@user-nm6hx7uk6u
@user-nm6hx7uk6u 19 дней назад
Asking a company to give up on an ecomnomy housing 1 billion people is just plain idiotic. Like it or not, companies in order to compete they have to enter the chinese market. Same with the Indian Market.
@Strenkoo
@Strenkoo 20 дней назад
Honestly, VShojo should just rebrand as something more like a Mythic Talent, rather than a Hololive, if that makes sense. If their only goal is to support creators who are already large, they should just own that and stop pretending to be similar to other VTuber agencies who bring up aspiring creators.
@ankparptheinsane
@ankparptheinsane 20 дней назад
I don't think so, their brand is still VTuber agency just using western standard (no exclusivity, IP belong to talent, talent freedom, work for the talent, instead talent work for them). And I dont think they will ever sell non vtuber merchs. It's just because they don't own the IP and collab with a lot of Indies even letting them in their minecraft server, make them different than traditional vtuber agency. For example, if Holo justice joins vshojo instead hololive, they dont have to use new IP. And people immediately knows that 3 out of 4 of them already collab with VShojo one way or another. People complain about Haruka, but she is similar with Raora size before Holojustice, she is a winner of audition and totally merited. Probably using new IP make it seems that she is brand new, but clearly, she has plenty of experience. I dont really want to say this but it's an 'Illusion under new IP'.
@HassanSabbaku
@HassanSabbaku 20 дней назад
You're not wrong, they would still be seen as a major Vtuber Corpo too because the people in the company would all be high profile talents. Personally though I see them shifting to a model more like OTK or OTV, sort of what they've got going right now honestly, hiring friends and people they know are on the rise. It's boring and safe but it's people already within their friend group so the vibes of the Corpo won't really change and a lot of people are really digging the Vibes of the current Vshojo.
@ankparptheinsane
@ankparptheinsane 20 дней назад
@@HassanSabbaku Well they can still do that too, Like VShojo is a type of agency who doesn't do waves and give 'breathing room' for new talent. They also can become agency that mixing Audition then Invitation then audition. Different than traditional vtuber agency that rarely do collab with outside, the non-winner of audition can still become collab list if they are entertaining enough but can't pass audition due to limited slot. And probably can be invited in the future after they increase staff size
@rancidiot
@rancidiot 19 дней назад
Mythic talent only supports with sponsors. Vs managers supports talents with sponsors thumbnails manicures wet wipes, everything!
@HassanSabbaku
@HassanSabbaku 20 дней назад
19:40 they've gotten talents like Geega and Haruka who, while entertaining, haven't been what one would consider a "diamond in the rough", personally I do feel them sticking to hiring their friends or those they at least have an acquaintance with it probably the best way to go, but also hiring skilled ex-pros they don't know that well for example Chinami Doku a very skilled JP streamer that some might recognise, she has the exact type of humor that jells right in with Vshojo, as far as I know she has never had much if any contact with any of the members in Vshojo yet I'm like 90% sure she'd fit right in with that group. This should be the type of Vtubers Vshojo should be looking to hire, numbers are important too, if they hire a no name that better be one helluva no name honestly or else it'll be a huge blow to the company's PR/Image.
@_l-_-l_
@_l-_-l_ 7 дней назад
Honestly Mata all the ex niji members were more diamonds in the rough than haruka. I think should just keep hiring ex-corpo members that were suppressed by their companies. Like hiring geega and haruka didn't change anyone's content, like at all, what's the point.
@ncp9095
@ncp9095 20 дней назад
Vshojo deserves the reputation because that’s literally what they’ve been doing mostly. I’m not saying it’s the bad thing, but it’s only natural to think they will hire their talent’s friend.
@davidharen
@davidharen 20 дней назад
The reason why the current era Vshojo works so well is because they all have that tight bond, so it’s completely understandable if they pick someone that already has a following and is close to them. But I genuinely hate this logic that opening auditions is pointless. For some reason people think that this somehow operates differently from a typical job position: obviously the more qualified people are most likely to get the job, that doesn’t mean you can’t apply and get your foot in the door. There is finally an opening for Vshojo to get their eyes on you without working your way through the layers of niche friend groups and you’re gonna waste your chance by complaining about it? Make it make sense. If they hire someone that nobody knows and they don’t mesh with the other talents, these people will say it’s an L. If they hire someone bigger who’s a friend, then it’s an L. If they don’t open auditions at all, then it’s an L. This is only controversial because there are so many idiots who don’t understand how a good business operates.
@AndeKanata
@AndeKanata 20 дней назад
mucho texto
@ZeroXSEED
@ZeroXSEED 19 дней назад
Only salty failure whined about nepohiring. Nepohiring is rampant even in HOLOLIVE, let alone Nijisanji. Nepotism isn't just about connection but knowing how well someone can perform in a work which gives them advantage even in objective assessment. And in an entire industry found based on internet clout, people thinking clout is a dirty word are deluded.
@jeremiahwilting5056
@jeremiahwilting5056 18 дней назад
So many people get mad when they don't join VSJ, but I haven't heard of anyone starting their own group...
@datgrart
@datgrart 19 дней назад
Start 1:45
@risktorise2103
@risktorise2103 19 дней назад
The way Zentreya written that she had to push for management to open an audition. Make me if I'm a potential recruit feel that I'm actually not wanted nor needed. Kinda kill the motivation I say.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 15 дней назад
I was originally cautiously optimistic/neutral to Hololive returning to China but based on recent events and talk on 5chan it has lead to at least one talent getting doxed (one of my oshis as well) so I am now quite worried about it. Though the damage has already been done in this case.
@oliverreilly8883
@oliverreilly8883 19 дней назад
Am I remembering things wrong here but 1) VShojo did have an open audition call in the past 2) then Months went past and no one heard anything 3) Nux taku then releases a video that there are a group doxing vtubers pretending to be replying audition 4) VShojo claims to have been communicating with law enforcement, limiting what they can say , having hired a security company which gave Nux the go ahead to release his video 5) Some of the VShojo members panic as they feel that they are more likely to be targeted. 6) Drama sphere explodes 7) Lesson learned do not do auditions
@AceUkiyoGeatsIX
@AceUkiyoGeatsIX 17 дней назад
Nuxtard interfered in the investigation to give himself clout in the Vtuber sphere and give his own Vtuber project Mythos a boost by leeching off Vshojo. Which failed, the scammers got away because the investigators had to drop the case and his harem still has low views and subs. He didn't have permission at all he just unilaterally did things on his own colonizer level ego.
@ankparptheinsane
@ankparptheinsane 20 дней назад
VShojo and Hololive totally different kind of culture, Hololive have to use new IP, VShojo doesnt have to new IP. You can't expect indies in Hololive minecraft server, you see indies in minecraft server. If for example Holojustice joins VShojo using their previous avatar people still using Nepotism accusation, 3 of them already collab with VShojo in the past. And also, of you look at Raora, her previous life is similar size to Haruka, it should give people at glance how established a talent should be. Haruka is clearly a winner of the audition. People expect announcement 'The winner of audition is ...', Hololive doesnt even do that. It is probably due to illusion under new avatar. It's totally different culture, VShojo already collab with tons of indies, and has large grasp on VTuber indie community unintentionally because they do tons of collaboration.
@AndeKanata
@AndeKanata 20 дней назад
The winner is *Mythic Talent*
@ankparptheinsane
@ankparptheinsane 20 дней назад
@@AndeKanata Nah the winner is clearly United Talent, they have athlete, singer and comedian too.
@NousagiCaptain
@NousagiCaptain 20 дней назад
Nepotism doesn’t mean hiring known vtubers, it means hiring friends. You are confusing the two things. Hololive hiring people that used to be vtubers has nothing to do with nepotism, hololive’s managment aren’t friends with the people they hire. Matara, Kuro, Henya, and that chick that was friends with Kuro when they were both in Niji. THAT’S nepotism.
@AndeKanata
@AndeKanata 20 дней назад
I love Kanata and FBK. But.... Cough cough Coco x Kanata cough cough HoloGamers.
@ZeroXSEED
@ZeroXSEED 19 дней назад
Hololive absolutely does nepohiring. The Dogs and Kiara as prime example. It's just that the requirement is far more stringent and there are a lot more repeat applicants. Fuwamoco and Bijou both 3 times rejected prior. Just because nepotism is involved doesn't mean qualification is unneeded.
@iceebearr
@iceebearr 20 дней назад
I am gonna wait for [vshojo Nousagi ]
@AndeKanata
@AndeKanata 20 дней назад
Nousagi is a fandom name registered for Usada Pekora ™️. He needs another name.
@Goldiizz
@Goldiizz 20 дней назад
11:05 Doki: I was rejected 3 time for twitch partner Dragoons: You... You applied by submitting the Bee Movie script... 28:37 I'm not Asian by any mean and I do wash my rice, multiple times 47:55 To be honest, I think it's a mix of both Because it does require skills, so it being full gacha is wrong But you also need to be lucky no one else that fits their criteria better than you applies. As talent is not the only factor, but you also need to fit the "archetype" their looking for. Even if you're more talented that everyone else, if they don't have a character for you, you (probably) won't get taken 01:22:50 I'd say one important part, which would apply to real life jobs as well, is to make the company think they need you. Really push forward what you could bring(which Rin more or less said= Speaking of Rin, I think the edit is fineish? It is a lot, but it's borderline I'd say. It's relevant at least, and the subtitles have more than one word each (I've seen some and those are really obnoxious) Also she said it herself that she talks really fast (which honestly I don't find shocking) so it doesn't help (and the format, as being really short, doesn't help as you need to put as many info as you can)
@whazzup_teacup
@whazzup_teacup 19 дней назад
Much of the vtuber application advice is also good for any job interview. Don't be an a-hole, act confident, show every aspect of you in the most positive possible way and avoid rambling.
@rancidiot
@rancidiot 19 дней назад
Return to monke
@warlockwarlord169
@warlockwarlord169 20 дней назад
10:12 >she , lol lmao even dare I say rolf
@damianellnoir9318
@damianellnoir9318 20 дней назад
So DN you do admit that you are a Vshojo **********
@AndeKanata
@AndeKanata 20 дней назад
Summary : Vtuber Business! You're a number.😂🫵🏻 Cover: Thank you. I like money. 💰 Anycolor, Vshojo, Idol, Phase Connect and other corpos: ME TOO ❤❤❤
@AlexanderHouse-t2z
@AlexanderHouse-t2z 20 дней назад
Shocking, right? People, I swear.
@AndeKanata
@AndeKanata 20 дней назад
P.S. Sorry, Parrot4chan. But, you need 10 videos of Nijiyab (20 minutes per video) in 1 month for 2k USD.
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