You know, there were things I didn't like about Super but the one thing I did love about it, were the fights and boy... it felt like a Cybuster Vs Granzon fight everytime with this Arc. I love it. :3
@@ShiramuUltraDelta It was produced as a watchable show. Which means it shouldn't look like 480p quality. There is a 3 year old video at 720p max that looks better then your 1080p video which is 3 months old. We can't fix your brain but we can find better quality of this battle on youtube 🤣
@@grimoireweiss5203 I mean, I appreciate your opinion. However, I mean what I said, that it's not something I can just fix outta the blue. It was just how it was produced.
Even in ultra instinct Goku was still trying to train Kalifla. It wasn't until he realized his hits are too strong for her that he decided to end the match. By that time he had shown her everything he could've during the match.
Its more of everything is a crit than a boost. Refining, which is why jiren meditated. Y refining his power, when 17 got him off focus he lost his dominance.
@@Nocturnal_20YT clearly didn't hear they Convo after he punched her, she said that's the hardest you punch, he said I'm still getting the hang of this.... his hits wasn't to strong, but if he kept hitting her in that way she wouldnve ran out of power like Vegeta did with Jerin, she clearly had a lot of energy left to fight , Goku too soft but then again he needed to save his energy till it was really needed
@@moseslalmuanpuia8988 because the ultra instinct was incomplete, he really only had the reflexes of UI, not the strength, hes really no stronger than his base or even ss2 forms, if it was mastered ultra instinct like when he fights jiren at the end, might be a different story, jiren was powerful af, and goku needed MUI to beat him, if goku had mui vs kefla, it might have been a death lol
@@skyreapery2n164 Kefla was a twig. Her normal form looks like super twig too. Only after going SSJ she gains some muscles but it's just cringe form. Every saiyan male looks like he worked out and we know they did because we watched the anime. Now this twig comes in and just goes from 0 to lvl2 in few minutes fighting against everyone who reached same forms long time ago and trained for longer too. Whole show is just a big joke honestly 🤣
This fight shows how strong Goku really is. He just had a battle with Jiren and awakened Ultra Instinct. And used EVERY form in this battle Tired Base Form Goku was able to keep up and land good hits against SSJ2 Caulfila
It's called the power of the plot. GOku was the ONLY character in the tournament who barely got tired, he only rested a litle bit after his fight with Jiren but that was it. When Jiren was owning Goku in masteted U.I, only Jiren was losing power and getting tiref, meanwhile Goku was always at 100% 😂
@@Yokai_Yuri No it's called Goku should be more then capable of keeping up with ssj-2 kale after all the training he did with Whis and supposedly absorbing a portion of SSG in his base in battle of Gods when he fought Beerus
@@blackprovostpublications5225 there are different sayians universe 6 sayians never had tails so they evolve differently trunks and goten could probably go super sayian 3 with ease by the time the become the age of the universe 6 sayians they already did it fused against buu
@@kumidifire I’m aware of the different evolutionary path-I just still think it’s bullshit given that the U7 Saiyans in general struggled not only to attain super saiyan, but also to master it. Meanwhile, these guys just tingle their backs and achieve power ups
@@blackprovostpublications5225 lol but goten spared with his mom and went super sayian where was his struggle? But I get it I mean before goku it was a legend no one had anyone to show them that’s why in the hyperbolic time chamber gohan was super sayian it was wasn’t heard to teach him it was super sayian 2 that was gohan’s struggle because no sayian before him went ssj2 but after Gohan vegeta and goku all the sudden were just capable
@@kumidifire Goten and Trunks have essentially been relegated to joke characters. They spent the entirety of dragon ball super transforming into their fat fusion. And when they turn into super saiyans, they don’t equal the power of their predecessors. The universe 6 saiyans are meant to be taken seriously but they gain all of their power without training.
Uh... Goten and (kid) Trunks? 👀 I'm not saying Kale and Caulifa did deserve them, but they’re not the only ones who didn't earn Super Saiyan. It dated WAY back in the World Tournament/Buu saga.
@@Falcons15176Nah base fusion is stronger than ssjg. We see this with gogeta vs broly and how he wasn’t even trying to dodge in base. Probably slightly stronger than ssjb in base form. Ssj is definitely above blue and probably just below ultra instinct. Ssjb or full power in any fusion far surpasses anything that’s ssjb or below
Kefla has the same mutation as Broly iirc. So Cauliflas ssj2 + Kales LSSJ forms combined added into fusion increasing by magnitudes of the forms involved, not simply added together.. Kale & Broly basically have infinite Ki that just keeps rising and Caulifla is a gifted fighter so eh, I can buy it. Vegito vs Buu in base form actually makes less sense. Vegeta and Goku are about the same level in the buu saga in base. ssj is a 50x multiplier originally so Goku + Vegeta should be weaker than either going ssj against Buu but again, fusion is magnitudes stronger than the individual base forms involved. Make less sense in the Buu arc than Kefla does in the TOP iyam. Pretty sure this is just classic "woman bad" but hopefully I'm wrong.
@@kylemccool9548 True it is weird writing because this would now mean that base gotenks would be stronger than a hypothetical ssjg goten and trunks in base form. They cranked the multipliers way too high. ssjg wouldn't have even hurt broly but base form gogeta could possibly still overpower him without ssj
They didn't even realize Guku was teaching them teamwork at the same time as teaching them skill, transformations, and technique. Kale has Brolly's Ki but Calufla was doubting her often. Still, Goku was seriously weakened after the Jiren fight and still holding back.
Be careful with anime clips man, a copyright strike can really mess up your channel for a while, But I will say that Goku vs Caulifla is a good example of power vs skill, despite the handicap of not transforming Goku had the advantage with his decades of experience
I hope they let us keep up with all the other universes warriors. I see a lot of things that I like in these other warriors that I definitely want to see you again.
Kefla(Kale and Caulifla) underestimated Goku and Goku surprised her(them) by skating up her(their) energy attack with his energy for his Kamehameha and blasted her(them) with his Kamehameha.
Hands down one of the best fights we ever got female super sayins are finally a thing this and broly is some of the best stuff we've gotten from dragon ball in recent years ❤❤
I felt like the tournament of power would have been great character development for trunks and goten. We were robbed of them developing fighting experience that gohan got as a kid. There is no telling how far they could’ve gotten.. I could’ve done without krillin and tien
Completly tapped out base guku vs. ss2 caulifla, um what? Krillan:"fighting a super sayian is like trying to stop a steam roller with both hands tied behind your back"
The Sick Kamehameha Ever Kafla is Amazing lover her Attitude energy and Character She get stronger and More powerful and adapts quick in the fight when I seen normal Goku keep up with SS2 Caulifa then Goku turn SS2 I thought she was finished But she was sooo determined crazy Love it
They totally dropped the ball with the tails and saiyan armor they could’ve threw on their design. They’re too plain Jane appearance wise. Plus they brag about being saiyans yet have no tail. On planet vegeta they’d be a laughing stock there.😂
Any saiyan form shouldnt match up to any god form. But what do i know this why its hard to be a dbs fan because the writing is either rushed or isn't fully thought out
You see this is why I don’t see the big hype train behind Kefla and Caulifla Tail is a different story, but then again, that could be because I’m biased because I love the legendary super Saiyan
You know, i dont really get the angst towards the U6 Sayians. Like we know very little about U6 and what their sayian race has gone through. Its obvious that the U6 sayians are drastically different than the U7 Sayians. We dont know what kind of battles they have fought. One thing is clear is that they have a tremendous amount of unknown potential when it comes to how strong they could be.
What i dont like about Dragonball Super, is the massive difference in how they display power. Goku beating up Kefla in SSJ2 in normal state makes zero sense. Gohan got hit by full power Cell and didnt even get phased. Maximum explosions and fast paced screen movement doesnt really make an episode of dragon ball.
It's scaling, Goku's base is capable of defending against her ssj2 because her base power is lower. Goku has more than exceeded these levels by now. I doubt her in SSJ2 is even as strong as Gohan was against cell.
U6 saiyans have huge learning and adapting potential.. But they were called Lazy generation like Kale amd Cualifla wbo always sits and eats like a boss..
bruh in the movie that was goku vs lord beerus, goku had to take power of 5 sains to become a super sain god but in this he becomes it without the 5 sains HOW!!!??