Still one of my favorite fights they were both monsters at this point just beating the hell out of each other! Also 26:22 is bad ass how Goku just stands there and tanks that blast from Vegeta and they just both laugh afterwards 😂
@user-rw4xi8sm8h it's actually a very stupid argument. even if vegeta would get everything he wanted in order to be enslaved it eould be still slavery under specific circumstances and if the only thing he desired is to outclass goku, thats just poor. but maybe vegeta has a specific kink and wanted to tell people about it hahaha. for the hardcore vegeta fanboys just a joke, but his argument is stupid. well vegeta never seemed like a rational person to me, he is very very emotionally led yk.
@kappakuppa7255 not if the emotions are not likeable like anger/wrath, pride, hate, jeolousy/envy, egoism... i don't like vegeta in dbz , he is ok in dbs, but overall i do not like him, since he is a selfish, over confident former bully and now a**hole imho. and i can not see anything great about the character vegeta, he just should represent the whole saiyan "race"/folk with all there speciffic behaviors and tenets and so. he only tries to overcome goku in terms of power and nothing more. goku is my fav character in db franchise by far and vegeta seems like a jeolous number 2 in comparison yk. but what i wanted to say innitially is that it is no wonder that vegetas slavery argument is bs, since he nevver was a llgical person thats all.
from tyrant and bully to envy a**hole, driven by exorbitant pride and pathological desires to be superior to all others, especially goku...rly astonishing character development
Maturing is realizing just how good of a friend Goku was. He knew Vegeta needed this fight more than anything. He not only put the world at risk so Vegeta could get his get back, but he actively held back to make Vegeta believe they were on the same level.
That’s not a good friend because he felt betrayed when he found out in his death that Goku was holding back he wanted to fight Goku at Goku’s best . I rather lose a fight than win because you hold back thats dumb. That makes my pride more angry at you then. And unlike Vegeta id never stop coming for goku if i was vegeta id get him in his sleep if i had to. Winning is all that should matter. Its insulting to a prince how a low class warrior got to be more powerful
@@Democracyhasbecomehypocrisyyour pride would be crushed for a 3rd time when you realized you're not close to the power lvl he is, so no it was goku being a real friend, he didn't pick a fight with vegeta, vegeta came looking for him.. out respect he didn't drop him in less than a minute he wanted to see how far has vegeta trained which made him proud.. remember goku fights for the love of this shit, he constantly wants to fight people stronger than, even putting himself in a handicap, vegeta fight/train just so he can say he's stronger than goku. theres lvl to this shit, these 2 are not the same
Pretty sure if he went super Saiyan3, he would have used up all his energy because he hadn’t perfected it yet, so by default, Vegeta would’ve won. Then vegeta would have been even more mad because, 1) he hadn’t shown vegeta his SSJ3 form yet, and 2) Because Goku would’ve burned through his energy too fast, and Vegeta would’ve got mad and called him an amateur.
I can’t believe it’s only 9k views ?! Back in the day every mid age guy like me used to watch this in the tv 📺 and discuss it with our classmates All day 😢those were the days
sry for stupid question but what exactly is a mid age person, i mean how old are one in his/her mid ages. my guess would be 40 since the average lifetime is around 80 years.
Vegeta's commentary really makes you root from him even though you know he's wrong. That "I wont let you win this time" during the beam struggle was top tier.
@@ruiolavo2426 Goku was serious and smart in Super when it called for it, like against Goku Black and the TOP; it just had more silly moments, plus Goku was just joking around more. You guys gotta actually watch the show instead of RU-vid Shorts.
@Metalhed1300p vegetas statement was mean,rly unfair delusioned way way way too much melodramatic and pathetic and on top it soundef like the speech of a radical maniac
dbs is much better in my opinion. dbz looks rly old and seems to age not well. i am not sure if the anime dbz is older than me (im 20) but it seems like it. 90% of dbz is just screaming in order to achieve another form and they say they're fighters but actually they nearly just blast ki attacs the whole time when they are not screaming and powering up and the fights lacks of hand to hand combat very often. they're not martial artists or fighters they're more gunslingers therefore😂😂😂
@ultra8442 wild argumentation 💀, and you respect my opinion, wow thatas so nice of you....come on bro i argumented and explained why iäthis is my opinion and you not even tried that too and just tries to criticize my opniniin without any argument or similar. sry but thats lame bro
@ultra8422 hmm no sry not imo tbh. maybe its just coz i binge watched dbz, dbs recently, since i am too young to habe watched dbz back then, but i found the arcs story's rly repetitive tbh. the saiyan arc was boring except the fight against vegeta, freezer/frieza arc has no dtory except a dictator who wants to rule everythkng. cyborg arc was actually ok from writing i would say but somehiw uncanny since gero and so looked weird. cell arc was pretty good, well it was basically just a tournament arc woth lots of unneccessary training shit. buu arc is just ridiculous and seemed to be a satire of the franchise or so.... i mean just take the ss3 look with this hair extension and that troglodyte eye brows lmao. and the story of the arc is just a boring antagonist with absorbtion abbimity to change his character and appearrance as they like during production without retconning it/him (has buu a gender ?🤔🤯)
Yes, would never get made nowadays. Wasn't getting made in the US back then either. That is what I love about japanese media. Even in our adult animation, they avoid killing innocent bystanders, and even villains are often either knocked out or killed by some sort of accident or it has to be a very specific type of villain if they are going to kill him (and it is always him) directly. In Japan the rules are different, if there are any at all, and such paternalism over what we can and cannot see / indulge in doesn't get in the way of storytelling nearly as much
@@charlesloftin8768 haven't watched it but heard it was amazing. However, this show was made for ... children. Haha. I don't think invincibles target audience was 10 year Olds lol
He could vegeta says it later on in the saga saying ive been to otherworld i know all about your super saiyan 3 and you hid it from me during our battle so yes he could have @gdgd5194
@@gdgd5194yes he could vegeta even says it later in the saga. I've been to otherworld I know all about your super saiyan 3 and he was pissed because goku hid it from him so yes he could have .
"It will take more than head games to stop me! You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps. HIS PRIDE!!" Such a powerful line from the prince of Saiyans
the quote of vegeta respectively the statement behind it is dumb as hell, since people with mental health problems for example or other problems which they are not aware of, still having the same problemes and their knowledge or awareness or feelings about it are not rly connected to the degree of their sickness and so yk
This fight is so much more for Vegeta, he was going through a good/evil mid life saiyan crisis. He needed to fight Goku to figure himself out, which in turn led to him sacrificing himself and being truly good.
Vegeta wanted to get back to his ruthless nature because he felt that’s what made him strong I can’t deny tho his best fights was when he was ruthless so I understand why he wanted that power but goku didn’t fight that way goku fought off learning to protect people he loved an that made him have a different will vegeta felt like that method didn’t work for him because he turned good an still can’t beat goku so I understood his stance
Vegeta realized he was not the same man he was during the Saiyan/Namek saga being a ruthless warrior that cared only about himself and power. Seeing a glimpse of Goku's power against Yakon made him realize that being on Earth with a family all these years made him soft.
actually vegeta just wanted to unleash more potential in order to get stronger and hopefully eventually to become stronger than goku and nothing more. i doupt he rly questioned if he is good or bad, he just wanted to have the powerboost of babidi's magic imho and didn't cared 'bout life's of foreign people, as usual. vegeta is imo in general a rly 1d character, only used to explain certain things (to the viewer) when its needed and in order to give goku a friend rival and companion, which's not weak as fuck like krillin and the other z fighter losers. vegeta in bdz is unsympathetic and unneccessary.
@@philipduncan9337 it’s hard for me to understand this opinion unless it’s how u originally watched it as a kid so the nostalgia factor . Faulconers score is just objectively a much more impressive and dynamic score musically speaking . And it builds tension while adding diff musical styles to certain characters and situations . I just watched the cell saga with OG music on crunchy roll and felt like such a huge part was missing from it . Have u heard the music during cell and gohans finale in faulconers score ? It’s extremely epic and unique to the scene . But everyone’s got their style
@@gamecopshow personally I hate the Faulconer soundtrack. But it seems pretty much to be the one which makes you nostalgic is the better thing, so what you first saw an thought is the right thing. I feel the same as you but for the original bgm.
Yeah I wish they brought him back from hell to have a rematch or something but I guess that didn’t happen. Closest thing we got was the red ribbon army trying to make a stronger cell & that failed
@@maxrichards5925 But cell was,at least imo, just a Frieza copycat somehow and besides his origin story and his absorption ability (which both are shown enough) there is nothing interesting about cell. And why bringing him back and changing him, wasn't he self proclaimed already "Peeeerfect" ?
@@user.-ks5dl He wasn’t just a “Freeza copycat”. He had the dna of Piccolo, Vegetable, Goku, Krilllin, & Tien. He had the ability to almost always come back from the brink of death which helped to give him a boost of power near the end which only Gohan in SSJ2 could stand up against. You could argue the scene where Goku used the instant transition was bs since he took off the upper half of his body, but that Kamehameha was different from the one Gohan used at the end & didn’t last nearly as long
The music made this show as a kid man i miss coming home from school my dad woild already be sitting in his recliner with dragonball on we woild sit and watch dragonball then dbz then gt then yugioh when cartoon network had those in a line from 430 to 7
@thatdudety0176 Agreed bro...He even goes back to Namek and tries to make amends for what he did to them in the Moro arc...They're are writing the hell outta Vegeta 👏🏾
@@blakenapier3125 I don't necessarily agree. Sometimes, when a person has been abused and living in fear their whole life, and then they finally find peace, happiness and even love, it changes them. Make no mistake. Vegeta was absolutely TERRIFIED of Frieza in the Namek arc. One piece of writing I hated is when Vegeta was just prison raping Golden Frieza, I mean savagely pummeling him, once again, it had to be The Son Of God to save us. The whole destroying Earth and rewinding time thing wasn't necessary. Frieza is on the ground, and Vegeta looks down at him. "This is for my Father, my people and my planet. Go to Hell." Frieza is vaporized. But slowly. I mean 25 seconds of screaming. Vegeta remains a good daddy, but a BADASS one, and Vegeta gets his revenge for Namek, which was the sickest, most vile beating and humiliation I've ever seen in anime. Vegeta NEEDED to k**l him. But, no. We couldn't get that. I love Goku for what he is, but it gets old.
This was the best arc of dbz ever. Majin Vegeta was so badass & relatable…it was hard to even pull for Goku. Regardless of right or wrong, you understood the overdue dispute & how inevitable it was. And you saw his respect for Gohan more in his Majin state than ever before. You can tell when Gohan says “does it really matter??” And Vegeta explains it due to his respect for Gohan as a Saiyan…then the Supreme Kai basically says the same thing that Gohan did in a different way & Vegeta absolutely loses control over it. So well written.
I forget that Vegeta has a pretty decent redemption arc. He thought being evil is what made him the best warrior...but it was actually the power of friendship xD
Honestly even in the context of the lore this is probably the most intense battle between 2 Saiyans in history. 2 Saiyans that achieved power even beyond that of the legendary super saiyan battling it out for the pure sport of it. All their Saiyan ancestors probably looking on with pride.
"It will take more than head games to stop me! You may have invaded my mind and my body. But there's one thing a saiyan always keeps...HE'S PRIIIIIDEEEEEEEE!!!" Vegeta looks so freaking menacing, I love it!!!🔥🔥🔥
Moments like this really highlight how far Super strayed from the real characters. Goku was pretty damn thoughtful and serious, Vegeta had that ambious mean streak combined with an indomitable will in him the whole time.
@@zombrofitness I enjoyed parts of it: I think the highs are up there with some of the best bits of Z. Vegeta teaching Cabba, Goku breaking out the Kaio-Ken, the early Goku Black/Zamasu saga, Beerus deleting Zamasu, Ultra Instinct being awesome, the sliding Kamehameha... But yeah, everything in between those bits is... Poor tbh.
That and despite the intense fighting, you can tell that he's still holding back like 15%. He's not going all out like he was against Frieza. Just a solid match that he wanted to have before going back to afterlife.
That piccolo fight was underrated as hell his moves are the most unique man sent ki blasts that stuck in the air and then they become like a heat seaking missle
@@Ontiming2023 💯. Also people don't understand how epic the Bruce Falconer soundtrack made these fights as well. One of the reasons I was bummed out with DBZ kai
When vegeta gives his speech, you can see how goku completely understands and acknowledges him, not much is said about gokus benevolence but he wanted to give vegeta his fight, because he respects another true warrioe
Goku should have just gone SSJ3 right here and KO'd Vegeta in a nanosecond, then teleported to Babidi and globaled him and Dabura in a five second clean up tour. There, Buu threat eliminated.
@@manga4u563nonsense, if anything it would have given him even longer. Instead of having to use SSJ3 to fight Buu to a standstill for an extended period of time, he could have gone SSJ3 literally right here, one shot Vegeta, then teleported to Babidi and eliminated him and Dabura. It would have taken all of ten seconds to wrap up the Babidi saga and completely prevent the Buu saga from even occurring. But Goku is perpetually as dumb as a box of rocks so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Face_RC Goku wanted to let kids and all of Z fighters unite against a new powerful enemy, so that they would improve. He said it himself, when he explained that he could have defeated Buu with SSJ3. All of Z fighters surpassed their limits when facing very powerful opponents, look at Gohan. Goku done the same thing during Cell saga, he wanted Gohan to reveal his full potential.
So when someone is naturally better than you in a game you grind, do you start killing civilians, and try to kill them, do you start HATING them. NO because you're not an insecure manchild
i know people majin vegeta but he couldve just killed dabura and babidi then fought goku this is literally vegeta having a temper tantrum what vegeta doesnt understand is goku trains smarter not harder
Goku trained in the otherworld which gave him infinite stamina and as a result he unlocked ssj3 .i do agree he trains smart for example in Android saga but still being in otherworld gave him a huge advantage at getting stronger.@@wilbestvids
17:59 not only is the animation absolutely sick, but just listen to the how brutal those blocked/hits sound. These two were pinnacle level (goku holding back of course) just tearing it tf up. This is what makes DBZ so perpetually amazing
he did spare him at the end of their first fight so it's not like he didn't want the same Vegeta did, but Vegeta picked the most inconvenient time to pick a fight with him.
Actually ssj3 consume too much energy he cant maintain too long, and goku still have a ring on his head. If he really turn ssj3 he just have finish it the fight asap
Vegeta needed this fight in order to become who he was changing into. Goku realized this. Even though all this stuff was going on, and it involved the kais, as saiyans they did have an old blood feud to settle, and power level isn’t necessarily the determining factor in a warrior’s bout of skill. In the time I grew up, there were things we settled with fists that words could never achieve. I believe this was goku showing his grace knowing how long vegeta had worked on his own to try and keep up, and how detrimental it was to his character that this effort be not in vain… Goku is truly underrated as far as his character, and how he shows up for literally everyone, barely out of one fight and right into the next, or preparation for it… This mindset forges a Champion of Champions.
Vegeta to Babidi “you may have invaded my mind and body (and given me an unbelievable power boost which I didn’t earn through training)…but you can never take away MY PrIdE”
I think a lot of people miss the nuances in this. Goku and Vegeta are evenly matched in terms of power here, but think of it from both sides. You have Goku, having to entertain the emotions of a prideful prince. Think of the inner turmoil; do you go all out against your friend, or do you hold back? Do you fight for the thrill of battle, or just to help Vegeta work all this rage out of his system? Think of Vegeta. All those years of feeling inferior, that fear of being mediocre, wanting to be everything you’ve thought yourself to be your whole life, and more. He throws everything at Goku here and it’s clear to see he hasn’t dealt with his internal demons for all this time. Great writing, don’t get anything like this nowadays
"Do you really believe what you're saying?" Goku asks. I don't think Vegeta really does. The fact that Goku is able to talk sense to him at the end shows Vegeta didn't go full blown evil just because he wanted to.
He probably blasted some people just to ensure goku fought him. Vegeta could have nuked the entire stadium and knew that every competent person would survive, but that wouldn't ensure goku fought. So it was better that he left some people alive.
hahaha yes i always thinks the same when i see shin. one have to admit that toriyama did bs by saying the kaoshins and g. o .d. (hakaishins) are sort of connected when it comes to their life and death. so basically vegetas father for example or any other dude beerus bullied could just kill shin, who is a complete weakling lmao. that doesn't make any sense
This fight was balanced in a way: Goku's body being already dead made him more durable despite the stamina drain reducing his time on earth vs Vegeta's tricking Babidi for a powerboost
@fdfgaming9076 well, if you're already dead, you don't have to worry about dying. So since death isn't a worry on Gokus mind in this fight, maybe he pushed himself harder than he would have were he still alive? Idk lol. I just love re-watching this shit 20+ years later lol
@@fdfgaming9076 Goku warned Vegeta while he was fighting Buu on the Kai planet that he was more durable while dead, but, that if he died again in that state he would be gone forever.
@Ontiming2023 In the DB/Z verse, it's perfectly acceptable. Rewatch the scene as Vegeta offers to "detain" Buu while Goku rests for a few minutes. That was the first time anyone laid out the ground rules for what happens if you "die" fighting someone alive while already dead.
8:49 I love this from Goku. Catch the hand get the clinch 2 devastating knees to the chin fake the right hand and throw the right round kick beautiful work from Goku
@@CircusClownof course y'all little kids think this is a joke but I've been through some tough things in my life and this one person was making life into hell and i hate them for it
@specleader101 did toei animation rly officially stated that only the events of the manga are canon even for the anime, like with one piece ? then there would be such thinngs as filler episodes or filler in general. but if this is not clearly said by the respective animestudio there are no filler episodes in an anime. or would you say the whole ending of game of thrones or any difference of book adaptions are always filler and the show game of thrones therefore wouldn't have an official ending, which would be weird since even the tilte is different from the book series'
How about a Guy Named Goku already where his Hair Straight from Yamcha’s when he first Competed In The Tournament and give him a Red Turtle School Gi with a Red Headband and no Scars at all instead of being that Named Future Gohan
Goku had super saiyan 3 the whole time he just didn't use it. Wise decision to not use super saiyan 3 on vegeta. That's why he didn't take vegeta seriously like he did the first time they fight.
