Goku Was WRONG?! Gohan PERISHES Fighting CELL?? | Dragon Ball Rise | FULL STORY 

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But Gohan dies, Goku uses his Super kaioken

Yes true but the fact is gohan is the only character that never dies. If krillin getting sploded sent goku into super saiyan, gohan getting beaten to a pulp in front of him should send him to super saiyan 3 rofl

@@mikek7660 Gohan died when Kid Buu blew up the Earth

@@myname9130 doesn't count for this video, and while technically true it also is irrelevant since everyone else died as well except for kid buu, mr satan, and vegeta/goku

@@mikek7660 Wasn't Dende also alive too?

@@Supremely_Stupid this joke is not funny anymore.

@@fireeer7997 it was never funny

@@Supremely_Stupid Ok. We get it. Can we drop this joke?

@@Supremely_Stupid Dud this joke is not funny anymore move on

@@Supremely_Stupid the joke is trash. So is roshi Goku's dad?

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Androids: are you sure about that

Fan manga dialogue ☠️

I feel like vegeta should have raged out like in canon and charged cell.

@@wolfhead-hx2mn He was fighting 3 cell juniors dude the rage boost helped him to get rid of them

It’s so much in his character and I’m happy they got it right, if this happened in the cannon Vegeta would have definitely done the same thing

@@tailsbread hell yea definitely because he knows that’s goku compliments his aggressive nature with his calm demeanor.

Honestly I wish this was a what if scenario in a filler episode in Z Bc seeing Goku be like this is different and kinda refreshing and Vegeta being there for him is wow

@@foxyaessports7420 lol

He stopped him because he knows that's not the real Goku

Yeah you know Goku was going too far if Vegeta had to lecture him about torturing cell

YOU FOOL, ITS ONLY GONNA MAKE HIM STRONGER -Vegeta 2021

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This version is better then original one lol

What kakarot died didn't see that comeing

@King Of Dust he didn't want to be a warrior right from the start, you just say that because he has high potential without understanding the character itself

I mean dude straight up died and probably thought its his fault because he didn't meet goku's expectations. So i hope so

@King Of Dust I feel you but realistically dude kinda have a lot of truama from being indoctrinated into to a life style of war at age 3 and has experience some many near death experiences so of course he hate to fight niggas but he has too for the sake of the earth

@Luis Suazo he probably does looking at how he doesn’t even fight for fun the only he does that is to spend time with his little brother

@King Of Dust The Earth wasn't constantly in danger after Cell though. There were 7 years of world peace after Cell died, the danger was gone as far as anyone knew.

But that’s exactly why the statement is accurate of vegetas cannon character And not accurate of the storyline itself lol

that’s exactly what i thought of too lmao

bro don't read my mind

To be fair, it's probably easier to tell when somebody is actually holding back compared to hiding an entire transformation. Nobody knew Frieza was hiding three different forms even though they could all sense ki, but Goku knew Cell was holding back against himself and that Gohan was stronger than all of them even before going SSJ2.

@@RobbertRobbert12345 yeah I feel like holding power back in a transformation is a little different than walling it off behind a different form .. I think Frieza was in capable of using a certain amount of power unless he changed his form because his actual power was limited or handicapped till he uses his true form .. However I think the character flaw of vegeta is that he believes at all times he’s the strongest and what ever depth of power he senses in a person He things that it’s less that his because he isn’t showing his true power or he thinks that he can catch up to them in battle because he’s a saiyan elite warrior prince yadda yadda … his ego is why he makes that over sight… he can’t conceive of a being being so much more monstrously power full… and only at the end of Z and In super do we occasionally see him humbling himself to understand the possibility of this.

oh shit

*Chi-Chi erases 7 galaxies*

Technically, she still is. Remember, the camera is still rolling with the announcer.

Bro beerus would feel her energy and chi chi would destroy the whole dragon ball universe

Just a reminder that chi chi went kaioken out of pure rage when Marron (the Ex girlfriend of krillin) insulted her.

Well originally Cell games was supposed to be the final arc.

@Smokey The Bear idk about that, since gohan was on the verge of tapping into ssj2 even before goku in the time chamber

@Smokey The Bear I also don't understand Goku's Character in this fan made comment to. Yea sure, he was angry on Namek but he didn't torture Frieza for no reason. He was gonna end it before Frieza said he can Transform, in which he let him do because the fight would be more fun that way. In here he is just "I WANT TO MAK YOU SUFFA!!!!"for no reason.

@@captain5977 the first time characters transform into these forms their personality shifts. You know, the "superpowered evil side" trope.

@Smokey The Bear How was it out of nowhere? The entire arc after Cell is introduced has all 4 Saiyans talking about pushing beyond Super Saiyan, and Goku spends most of it talking about how Gohan has some extremely powerful hidden potential. The foreshadowing for SSJ2 was not subtle, idk how you could miss it.

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And the way he commentates.

You mean multiverse?

reminds me of launch,hmm

This is so corny

Agreed

Ok

all the top three comments have 56 likes how sus

Oh yeah he does

Is it really that sad? Basically the ending was exactly the same. Main difference is Gohan dedicated himself to his training which imo is great. Tired of the soy they pumped up in Gohans diet. Really inconsistent character too. I mean Gohan should a just fought beerus in his ultimate form if it can keep up against blue. No reason for a god ritual.

Remember this is not our timeline. Our timeline was destroyed by Zeno

@@Grimyyy I thought it was future trunks reality that got deleted wasn't it? Then immediately wished back with the super dragon balls

@@luaustin627 it was

@@ryanjenkinsmusic8339 yea well thats like your opinion man. Have a good night

Love him-Hate Him, he is spitting straight facts.

Yup

Dude I thought the same thing, this was really well done

I disagree, they kinda just shoehorned Gohan back in.

@@tylerisadumb love him hate him it's facts

BIG FAAACTS NEARLY IN TEARS

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Agreed

It really does

Yo on god. Damn near cried when picolo got healed and had saw gohan 💯💯

If this is the timeline, this makes Gohans harsh and heavy fighting style in super and tournament of power and his stern serious demeanor make a whole lot more sense.

You are right! A Gohan all Dragonball fans deserved

Yeah, the Gohan we all wanted: A traumatized wreck who has no happiness, no future, no wife and kid(since he only met Videl by going to school), and still is - at best - second fiddle to Goku and Vegeta once they obtain their God forms and beyond.

Gohan don't deserve shit

@@christiancinnabars1402 yeah-honestly, I like Gohan just the way he is currently. And I think a lot of stuff would happen the same in this timeline because Goku died regardless. I think the only difference would be Gohan would be training more often.

Well he still had what made him push past In the past

Right he was non chalant asf what the hell😭😭

Your first point about Trunks is very valid however your second point about Gohan not really having much of a reason to transform in the actual series doesn’t make sense, he had the fear that all his friends were going to die and he had no way to save them unless he unleashes his power then he had Android 16 who told him to let go of his fear and act upon it before he got stepped on by Cell which made Gohan feel that Android 16 was merely just an Android and was willing to protect live by planning on self destructing himself along with cell this then made Gohan feel that he has the responsibility to protect live against cell as an human and all of these factors I mentioned above pushed him to the edge where he just exploded and thus history was made

@@thenotoriousone8404 I meant he didn’t have a good reason in this video not in the original series. I completely agree with your point.

I still really loved the suggestion given by some other youtuber. Why not have Trunks be the one that got killed? We saw that it ofcourse did affect Vegeta but the idea was basically to have the story go full cirkle. It more or less just went like this. "Trunks was trained by Gohan in the future and turned super Sayian when Gohan was killed" "He goes back in time way before Gohan obviously ever becomes strong enough to train him but seeing his old master he wants to spend as much time with him as possible." "They end up training together in the timechamper since Trunks and Gohan are both half sayian it made sense to have them trains perhaps after both had trained with their fathers before then." (They would need to either give them another day or maybe have Goku realise Gohan needs a bit more experience from other fighters and not wanting Vegeta to be the one to train Gohan for obvious resons) "Have Trunks and Gohan become close in the past as well" "Do the whole scenario with Gohan but instead of 16 being destroyed instead it is an enraged Trunks that can't stand seeing his master get killed while not doing again...again...." "Have him sacrifice himself for Gohan and THAT is what makes Gohan go super sayian 2 making the whole story come full cirkle"

Yeah but SSJ2 Goku wasn't stronger than ssj2 gohan, since before his ascension... Gohan was stronger than Goku. Vegeta in the cell games was onpar with 1 cell jr.... lol.

@@WildWeavile true dat fam

@@WildWeavile The cell juniors were stated to be the same strength as cell himself but with lesser intellect

I don't think Vegeta is SSJ2 here. The lightning around him is yellow, not blue like the others. It's likely just from the final flash.

@@juliogomez316 No they are around the same strength as cell. They are not the same strength since everyone would have instantly died since it was: Gohan > Goku > Everyone else.

I dont understand

@@user-ls2by6to2k on planet namek vegeta was showing all the technologies to gohan and krillin when they went to get their armor. During which krillin says mondo cool. Vegeta then says it after, English dub of course.

Its from the original english dub

I realized it just now thanks to u lmao

Oh ty!

@Luis Suazo -"I fell your pain *UNICORN* "

@Luis Suazo lmao that random unicorn thrown in there

Reminds me of planet namek, goku needs more rage moments

@@dienstaghd5815 dude has me cackling ☠️

what did he even do you??

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Yooo Rising Fist! :D

@@ChodyRay right bro me too

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Its true

In some occasions , yes

Wasn't he toying with Cell though? just because he was part of the final kill doesnt mean he got stuff done

Vegeta ruined it

@SamBoy 777 Well in this situation and conversation about "Goku gets the job done" The difference might as well be the same between Mouse and Rat

I couldn't agree more

piccolo can’t regenerate huge holes in his chest. It takes tons of stamina to even regenerate a arm.

@@Adem-nl8pd He can regenerate large portions of his torso. Imperfect Cell blasted a large chunk out of the side of Piccolo’s torso. It just incapacitates him and takes a while to regenerate.

Piccolo can't regenerate himself if he is unconscious or has suffered too much damage. The limit does not seem to be the amount of damage he can regenerate, rather it seems to be reliant on how much stamina Piccolo is left with after suffering damage.

@@Adem-nl8pd Piccolo can regenerate from just a head, as demonstrated (off-screen) when Trunks broke Piccolo's statue after he was turned to stone..

i think its only limbs cause i he never heals them in dbz and i think its cause of how they regenerate its like yanking a new arm out which would probably fuck up the wound if they did that to the hole in the chest

he's like a calming big brother

He literally has one of the coolest voices in existence

I'm just waiting for him to say "next time on dragon ball z"

Do you know if Mondo Cool has ever made a Face Reveal?? I've been watching him for about 2-3 years now and can't remember if has or not 😅

his voice isn't as annoying as the others

Although it was a very interesting theory, Goku ssj2 in cell saga is just imposible, the ssj2 was suposed to be like Gohan mistic powers in buu saga, it was something only Gohan could achieve, i think toriyama original idea was to leave Gohan as the strongest being in the universe and i dont think the original name was ssj2 it was only gohan ssj with his rage surpassed the limits, but the show had to continue and in order to continue he put the name to that new form and made Goku reached wich contradicts the words from Goku who already said that he already reached the limit of his potential in pure power, thats why they left the time chamber before time. This same aplies for Vegeta.

@@dardosalinas4426 true, but as we all know-that didn’t end up being the case, which means that this “what if” video could have been the canon if toriyama wasn’t originally planning on trying to pass the torch to gohan; therefore, this transformation would be totally possible for goku knowing what we know now.

@@forastero54321 well in that case we must change what if and develope this scenario to be possible, and we have to go more deeper in the series, and instead of making Goku a low class warrior he should have the same potential of Gohan with hidden powers, the thing is that Goku is a low class warrior and his potential was very low although he compensed it with a genious mind to achieve more power, so instead of making him weak and with very low potential he should have get the hidden powers that Gohan has, and that would change also db history too, and also the others saga, so thats why i conclude that its kinda hard to make goku ssj2 in cell saga, because at that time toriyama had focused in the argument more than the charachters with power so he is very limited, unlike dbs where he doesnt need too much to detailed the argument of the power ups, so basically in dbs he is kinda free in dbz was very very limited and a bit evil you know with trunks and killing charachters that the audience loved, so yeah if we want to make this what if we should change all db arcs, because we are changing the base power of the charachter instead of being a low class warrior to a prodigy and Goku isnt a prodigy And besides toriyama was very tired of Goku at that time i mean i would too, he already esquished goku juice for so many years and if he want it to squishe more juice he would need to change the base power of the charachter and at that time toriyama was very delicated with the argument

@@dardosalinas4426 it doesn’t have to change because up to this point in the series goku was set-up to be the legendary ssj (since broly wasn’t canon at the time). It’s thanks to Roshi’s teachings and philosophys, as well as goku’s tenacity that he was able to achieve such heights as the legendary ssj status. It isn’t far fetched to believe that he’d be able to achieve ssj2 at this point in time with the right circumstances. The only thing was that toriyama was setting gohan up to be the next mc by teasing his power, but you can still go the same route as in this video and it’d still make perfect sense as a plot twist goku’s plan, while still getting an ending similar to the original.

@@forastero54321 well his teachings also influeced but i dont think too much, yeah Goku managed to get ssj but when he faced frieza at his full power the breach between wasnt very far it was 125 million to 150 million it wasnt very far away, so this shows that goku even with the legendary ssj wasnt able to humillated his oponent like Gohan did to Cell that was 2 times and more stronger than his enemy, so this proves again mi point Goku was a low class warrior and also in order to stand to frieza he had to use the kaioken a technique that wasnt even from his race a technique from a god and also sacrificed his stamina and body, and it wasnt enough, if he had Gohan hidden powers then he would never require those techniques my point with this is if you make Goku ssj2 in Cell saga then you kinda destroy the bases of the charachter and also what makes Goku so especial, he was born weak and in order to stand a posibility to his oponents he needs time and a lot and also inteligence, thats why he managed to do ssj3 in 7 years, incredibly powerfull but not balanced as ssj, he has to sacrifice a lot of stamina and energy and when loses it he is very fragile to the oponent like majin boo, but his son in only a week managed to surpass him not only in power but in stadistics in terms of power he doesnt need to sacrifice energy or stamina, he is 3 times more powerfull than him and even doesnt have time limit thats just crazy how they show Goku is not a prodigy and its one of the reasons that i love Goku, he is weak but his love for the fights made him surpass his limits, and if you change that by making him go to ssj2 in very early time well you are saying that he is prodigy and well in the universe we know he is not, thats why i said if we want to make this what if then Goku should have hidden powers from the beginning in order to get ssj2 very earlier, if we talk about z, in dbs yeah it shouldnt be a problem to goku to achieve that form. Toriyama respect the limits of the power of his mc a lot of times, with kaioken,ssj for the first time, ssj full power, and also the last transformation ssj3 if you see all of this he made Goku sacrificed something of energy and damage his body in order to even inhale the same air against his villain and sometimes the power up he got wanst enough. Goku always need time to get this forms and strategys to get high levels of powers, while Gohan not too much, with one training of a saiyan Goku is managed to get stronger than everyone but he is not able to surpass the limits unlike his son or maybe the hibrid saiyans. So then again if we want to make ssj2 Goku in Cell saga, again in Cell saga, we have to change the bases of the charachter in terms of power and man thats a lot to change.

Oh yeah, this is a Rising Fist ✊🏻 huh?

@@gabemesa3921 oh yeah

“Here, eat this.” “…Cliche.”

Ey jiren eat this Ballin

Gohan was already angry before 16 died due to his father and friends being beaten to a pulp by the Cell Jrs. 16's final words and death were the last drop for Gohan's transformation.

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Me too

this wouldnt make sense

@@vepictrainerkam why not?

maybe because gohan is much stronger than cell

LOL

@Luis Suazo I'm pretty sure Trunks would train as hard as Goten bacause Vegeta won't allow him to be weaker than Kakarot's son.

@Luis Suazo buu would still be hatched a stronger gohan would give buu more energy to get revived and gohan or any other fighter didnt knew about dabura's technique except supreme kai and kibito so dabura would still escape and get destroyed by gohan in the ship majin vegeta would still happen as vegeta wanted to settle score with goku not gohan so buu would be revived and the rest goes same as it did as buu will be stronger too because goku and vegeta's clash would give more energy to buu because both of them are stronger

@Luis Suazo well gohan was paralysed by supreme kai too even if he breaks the kai's magic yamu would steal a lot more energy from him since he is stronger more power would get absorbed in less time and goku being goku he would still fight majin vegeta like he deid in original starting from warmup to full power

It’s the tingly back feeling my guy you’re turning super Saiyan like cabba and caulifla

With some spice I like it

This is what actual dragon ball's main concepts

Yeah it shows us what our villains are like

I would like to believe he Would After His Son Died.

This makes sense low key since 1. His son is dead 2. It proves Goku wrong in his approach to push Gohan. This battle just wasn’t the time but Goku in his hopes to see his son excel never saw that. Like even in canon after getting yelled at from piccolo Goku had a small reality check that ended with ssj2

I mean with Frieza, he kinda did. He wanted to give Frieza a feeling of despair so great, that he wouldn’t be able to cause harm to anyone else ever again, because he’d have to be worried that Goku would appear at any moment

Super saiyan 2 is twice as powerful as normal ssj , the rage of it however... Maybe twice as powerful too

To be fair we have seen him like this back in dragon ball, when he first lost krillin, he was just chasing tambourine in a blind rage

I like the original better but this is goood too

@@latesonic2006 I wished we had a fight between SSJ2 Gohan and Full Powered Cell

@@chrismason1530 we did

@@latesonic2006 I meant to say with both of his arms.

@@chrismason1530 yeah he wouldn't have struggled as much

And the cell games was already the best saga too

He has many times