Because of the no placement limit, I feel like Golden Minigunner is only better in solo, meanwhile Accelerator is better with more people. However, I feel Golden Minigunner is more reliable due to not having to charge up all the time and having a more consistent dps.
i was soloing the winter event and i found accelerator was much better and had a guaranteed win but when i used g mini i barely killed the boss sometimes
@@sneakydv97I kinda doubt that, mini with commander is 200 dps, and assuming you have 4 mortars, and a dj, that’s 32 minis you can place. 32x200, equals to 6400 dps. You definitely did something wrong
@YourAverageSpeedrunner you gotta count the stuns, the enemy spawns, the boss heal, the fact that you can't have 32 minis attacking at once because of placement issues. Usually, accelerator is much better for the EVENT in solo.
Overall, Golden Minigunner has always been my solid pick. Accelerators are not reliable as they never target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will not stop until the enemy its attacking has died meaning other enemies can sneak through due to accelerators unreliability. Golden Minigunner will always attack the first enemy and overall has a higher dps ceiling. Only downside is Golden Mini can be MUCH harder to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins giving you a 16% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a much higher potential when it comes to lower placement limits. Use Golden Mini for solo and duo, Accelerator for trio and squad. Simple.
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
the accelator targettign almot made me die from glitches in fallen but i still feel accel is better due to the large amounts of damage in can do in just ll 3 wwhich could alone get u up to wave 24 in fALLEN
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I believe a way of balancing hardcore towers like accelerator is by giving them a unique ability each at max level. This adds to the uniqueness of hardcore towers and can create new playstyles. Likewise, accel could get an overcharge ability where when activated causes the accelerator to charge a very powerful attack and store it. The player could press the charged ability (indicated by an electricity icon) and release an extremely powerful attack. This could either be a large splash attack that leaves an electrified part of the path temporarily or a beam that can do chain damage. Or it could simply be an increase to the max charge maybe temporarily doubling it to 6000 and increasing the damage to 100. These were just some simple ideas I came up with on the fly, overall I think accelerator could benefit with an aoe ability to deal with crowds better. Either way, I think that hc towers could be improved upon being given a unique ability at max level.
And as for engineer, I believe it could have some kind of sentry boost. Where the engineer tower matches its best unlocked sentry. So now it’s with the dos of 4 sentries.
I prefer Gmini since It's cheaper to place and is good in (most) game modes. You also have to take into account that Gmini costs less to upgrade meaning that it won't have as much DPS as accel, however both are still solid DPS towers especially for fallen runs solo or not.
if everyone brings it your actually placing more then the cap of 40. I'm pretty sure its 80 which mean you're practically doubling your DPS (excluding supports + farms) but yes that is a fair point because if only you bring it then the DPS won't be as much per say in solo or duo.@@Chaseleep
due to the game naturally being multiplayer-based, accelerator comes out as the better tower like 90% of the time, because the one big thing gmini has over accel is not having a placement limit, which hardly makes a difference EXCEPT in solo
I think that accelerator is better in most situations especially with more players. Golden mini has no placement limit which makes it great if you have the money and tower limit to use it, but by the time you start to have higher dps with the golden minis’, accelerator will be cheaper at that point. However, accelerator requires additional towers since its targetting is very bad, so mini has an edge in that category. Both towers are good however I find accelerator more viable with more players, on harder modes, and especially for speedrunning imo. Also golden minigunner plus accelerator is also a powerful combo to use if you have the money.
Nah in trio it's still bad trust me and in duo you better get accel with engi combo or pursuit Overall g.mini Is only good in solo and pizza party other than that its gonna be good secondary dps
@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822@ 8 max accels cost 400k, and 18 gminis are better then 8 accels, mini costs 22k to max so 22k x 18k= 396k, it's only by 4k but gmini is cheaper, so in a small map accel is better, in big maps where you can place alot of units, for example four seasons, in those maps gmini is better
Real Also how and why i unintentionally got 2 golden crate on my alt and i got two best early game tower which is golden pyro and golden scout lol Also i think they capped the minigunner firerate because golden minigunner with commander ability would give the minigunner like 400+dps
I prefer using them together as the accelerator locks onto a enemy until dead, which means faster enemies can easily kill you, but minigunner has lower dps so using them together is the best😊
I think (I just think) that you could win with the minis if you maxed the commanders, they were able to make the minigunners shoot faster and kill the fallen king if it had like how little it had, like 8.000 HP, also the commanders had more range so… Anyways you get the point.😅
Accelerator is better for trio or quads and golden mini is better or solo or duo. If you can pair them up, you get like the most dps possible with the golden mini negating the accelerator's placement limit of 8 and semi unreliable targeting and the accel doing the dps
I personally would pick accel over gold mini, without commander accel still has a solid preformance but let’s be real every player should have commander in their loadout, and considering one accel can solo molten and one mini can’t. But mini is cheaper, also better targeting, although 8 accels is cheaper and I did some math, 1 accel is 4 g minis with commander and 4 g minis is more expensive so 8 accels = 32 g minis and 8 accels is cheaper than 32 minis and better dps per cost ratio, because accel has a smaller placement limit you have have some supports and sub dps which makes accel more reliable but g mini needs multiple to be good (no hate for mini but I prefer accel in most situations)
g mini does sooo much better in everything bro... ofc u need a lot there no placement limit but they are cheap and dont have the worst targeting in the game and they dont have a fuel tank that runs out
32g mini is not equal to 8 accel. if you did the dps without including the charge up time and cooldown its a little over 3.57 g mini. after including charge up and cooldown its ~2.21. this means it's closer to 17-18 g mini. that almost 1/2 as much as you said. also the cost efficacy is worse on accel from level 2-5 then g mini level 2-4
The thing about comparing those towers is,getting accel is 2 times faster than g mini,and only if you have g scout to speedrun molten solo under 13 minutes(with accel) it still takes 19 hours to get one g crate from 0 coins while getting accel takes around 12 hours with losing at 22 wave
I think Accel is good with towers like Pursuit or Engineer who can change targeting while also having high dps. I use Engi with Accel (plus supports and farms) to solo hardcore and i do really well. Golden Mini can change targeting but when it does, a lot of focus damage gets off of the original target. Golden Mini is hard to micro effectively while Accel can micro easily and effectively. I think Accel wins overall.
no, you are forgetting about the charge up, not to mention the price to place pursuit and engineer and to upgrade them. along with that pursuits targeting locks on just like accel and accel lets enemies get past. engineer sucks until the last upgrade. also, the sentries dont have hidden detection.
overall, g mini has slightly reliability than accel imo due to how accel has overcharge and is not very consistent in terms of dps and also it does not get many range upgrades unlike g mini but accel does have better cost effeciency
@@yoshihunter1749golden cowboy could be an option, or if you have enough hp you could tank and try getting a g mini as early as possible. But that requires you to be REALLY high level.
Just to say in solo with all 3 commanders and DJ u can only place 36 g minis all maxed which does a total of like 7.2k dps while accel can only do around half that which is 3.6k dps is why mini preformed a lot better and also mini doesn't need to charge and doesn't have a damage cap but as we get into duo mini is still better but in trio its quite fair quad though accel beats mini not by much though so golden mini is a lot better accel also has its annoying targeting that everyone knows about. So in my opinion g mini is way better than accelerator due to price, placement limit, reliability and dps.
once, in a polluted wastelands game we had all accels in late game but no other towers like engineer, we had supports and stuff but accels STUPID TARGETTING MADE US LOSE WHEN NUCLEAR M\ONSTER HAD 2K HEALTH he summoned a shadow boss
even though its not related to this topic, a way to have better ratio for farming is by stopping at level 3 to defend, or just wait to skip to level 5 because level 4 is not a really good use of money
Cost Efficiency becomes less important the more "Late game" the tower is, Yes level 5 accel isnt as Cost Effecient as Multipul Level 3's but multipul levels 3's arnt killing the amalgamation are they?
tbh, that wasn't really a fair comparison because you didn't directly compare them in terms of dps, range, placement, solo capabilities, multiplayer capabilities and pretty much just played 1 game with mini and 1 game with accel and gave a pretty vague conclusion and also you chose an old map which doesn't show how they perform on 90% of maps in the game. No hate but i feel like I didn't get any relevant info on which one is actually better in different situations
You only need cowboy for early game if you have max farms just sell all cowboys and spam max accels 8 max farms are enough to max out your defence before wave 40
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
I like Accelerator more. It's heavier price and charge/cooldown are out-weighed by the crazy amounts of DPS. Sure, 40 Golden Minigunners do more DPS than 8 Accelerators, but that is if you GET 40 G. Minis- and you are gonna want support, like DJ or Commander, maybe other things. Also, one max Accelerator has around 2.5x the DPS of one max Golden Minigunner. Also, I have to say- You have to beat Hardcore Mode around 8-9 times to get Accelerator, which is around 320-360 minutes, aka around 5-6 hours. Golden Minigunner requires 50 thousand coins, and the best way to get a G. Crate is Pizza Party. You get around 1000 coins per win. A G. Crate costs 50 thousand. That means, you'd have to beat Pizza Party around 50 TIMES! THAT'S 650 MINUTES, OR 10 HOURS! AND ALSO, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER GOLDEN SKIN?! THEN YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN! And that means, to get all 6 Golden Skins, WOULD TAKE 60 HOURS! THAT IS 30 TIMES MORE THAN ACCELERATOR! So yeah I'm done rambling.
POV Elite: Imma try and see how far I can get by placing golden minis and another round with accel to see which one get farther. ALSO Elite: imma place some cowboys (proceeds to place 20+ Cowboys)
