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How The Right Shoulder Works In The Golf Swing
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In addition to being a successful golf coach, Sam Golden is the inventor of the innovative and unique MNML golf bag featured in this video. The lightweight bag is made from waterproof micro-suede and includes a phone pocket for recording your golf swing, solar panel and cord for charging your phone on the course, a thermal cooler pocket, single-dual strap configuration, retractable stand, and magnetic (zipperless) closures. You can find the bag at www.mnmlgolf.com and on Instagram @MNMLgolf
I’ve known and followed Sam Goulden for many years. So, it was a blast to get to spend some time with him at his beautiful Manhattan Beach location and film a few videos talking about his Square to Square Swing Method - a simple way to swing the club that produces solid contact, a forward low point, and consistent results.
Right/trail shoulder movement in the golf swing is directly related to what your clubface is doing in the downswing. If your clubface is open, your trail shoulder is likely to be pretty high or more level. If your clubface is more square coming into impact, you'll end up with a low right shoulder through impact and beyond.
Special thanks to Scott Morgan and The Lakes At El Segundo for allowing us to film while in the Los Angeles area.
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@alancarlyon3928 4 года назад

What Sam was showing us here was similar to Moe Normans swing, Moe did a single plane swing, bit his wrists cocked naturally (club face more square) It Works for Sam and you Eric looked like you found a jewel! I am 70 years old and I find this swing ideal for a simple swing! Look forward to taken this further Eric? Another great insight of our world of golf! Many thanks!

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Thanks for the kind words, Alan! Check out Sam's channel for more on this topic!

@jamiesloan7259 2 года назад

Man. You guys nailed this. The right shoulder is everything. I’ve recently started playing with my right shoulder lower through impact. I specifically did that to allow me to hold the release off a little longer. No more hooks. However, I can still work the ball either direction, and not worry about too much curve. This move is a must for controlling the face. Great stuff, guys.

@CogornoGolf 2 года назад

Thanks, Jamie!!

@randyunderwood2894 4 года назад

these vids with sam are introductions to me of him. i really like his style as they just are pure logic. nothing over explained or complicated. i can relate to this vid extremely well since i am a right shoulder swinger. the "where the club face is" (square-open) is huge since i tend to swing out to the right. beautiful

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

He's awesome!!

@philwilkinson2924 3 года назад

Just had a lesson with local pro and he has shown me this is the way im heading and let me have a little play with oh my... I was hitting my PW as far as i hit my 8 iron so crisp... Its gonna be a real game changer!

@CogornoGolf 3 года назад

Love it Phil!

@dseveno8254 3 года назад

As someone with a high right shoulder at impact (your standard baseball swing), this is a magic move. The ball finds the left side of the course a lot less often. This should almost be titled "how to stop pulling the golf ball with proper trail shoulder movement". Great stuff.

@CogornoGolf 3 года назад

Haha yes that could be another good one :) Thanks!

@joshleech8146 4 года назад

This is such a great series! I found Sams videos years ago. It makes a ton of sense and really simplifies the swing. Great video.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Thanks, Josh! He's great! Thanks for being with us!

@Chris_Traynor 4 года назад

Love that idea that doing it the 'suboptimal way' technically means that your movement is somewhat extraneous to what you are trying to achieve and only has any relation to the desired shot and target for a brief moment. In contrast, adhering to this simplified template for what you specifically need for the shot/target/impact/flight is great because people are gonna slightly shift back to their tendencies anyway so why not endeavour to achieve this lack of excess unnecessary movement knowing that when making a dynamic move it will never be rigid, BUT you will be much closer to perfect having this in the back of your mind. I can hit it a bunch of different ways but when I start gaining a few strokes, this is the clear template i need to get back on track. Similar to what you were doing with Milo, starting at impact/short swings. Man Eric I am hyped about your videos right now!! This was awesome! Thanks!

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Agreed, Christian! Good points! Glad to hear that my friend...we are happy to have you here with us!

@Chris_Traynor 4 года назад

Eric Cogorno Golf 😄👍🏻

@jacksouthgolf44 4 года назад

Good, simple instruction Eric. Well explained, easy for the amateur golfer to understand 👍🏻

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Thank you sir!

@AGCampagna 4 года назад

You did it again. Gold!

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

@garydurbin9173 4 года назад

I've really enjoyed watching you guys & learned a LOT! Would love to see the adjustments made on the 5 or 6 iron? Thanks Eric!

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Thanks, Gary! Fun day for us! No adjustments in terms of the right shoulder for 5/6 iron. Just normal setup adjustments with ball position, feet width and tilt.

@robynb.4866 4 года назад

I love love love this swing! Just bringing this into my practice now because I also have a tendency to let let club overtake my hands, as well my miss tends to be a hook as you mentioned Is for you, Eric - this instantly gave me more control of a much better impact position with my hands as well as compression and accuracy! Yes!!! Thanks guys! 🙏💕🙌

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Glad to hear that :) Good luck with your new channel!

@robynb.4866 4 года назад

Eric Cogorno Golf Thank you!! More golf specific yoga to come in the near future 🙏⛳️🙌

@lawlessjohn2840 3 года назад

Cool bag, too!

@CogornoGolf 3 года назад

Yessir!

@samgouldengolf 4 года назад

Great editing Mary! Love this video.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

You da man!

@555Trout 4 года назад

Great video here because of the importance of matching mechanics and the observation that there are no must dos. I happen to think the best way to do things is to either be slightly open, best, or slightly closed and then keep it stable with low shoulder always hitting fade, best, or draw. When we try to ride the knife edge of "square " we can't eliminate a side of fairway or green because both misses are in play. The genius of having only one curve is very powerful. It basically doubles your miss margin. If you have adequate power the fade best for green holding..

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Thanks! One way curve is huge. The second key principle I teach everyone....along with eliminating the "big miss" in that phase. 1. Solid contact 2. One way curve and eliminate big miss 3. Speed/distance And of course plenty of short game throughout :)

@555Trout 4 года назад

@@CogornoGolf Great stuff! I used to tell my students great players are better because they are doing easier things. Lots of head cocks when they first hear that! You're a really good teacher Eric.

@dizzible 4 года назад

Question: What about the left side of the ball - after impact? I tend to lose all sense of follow-through after I feel I’ve made impact with the ball and I finish awkwardly. What are my wrists, arms, shoulders, back, legs - brain - doing after impact. Your videos are extremely insightful. It’s like you’re sharing the secrets. My favorite series. Thanks a bunch in advance.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey! Thanks for the kind words... There is a lot there.... This may help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q43rhyr6-vE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jrd5YwH9TR0.html I could give YOU more specific for what YOU need to do/feel but I would have to see your swing. Check out www.cogornogolf.com and sign up so you can send me your videos and I can guide.

@DanielMacias34 3 года назад

I couldn’t figure out the feel to get that forward shaft lean even though i understood each right arm video. Finally said just replace the right shoulder where my left one was and damn. Hit the heck out of the ball with way more control! Much love Eric!

@CogornoGolf 3 года назад

Love it!

@andrewferguson1013 4 года назад

Super instruction as usual, thank you! The bit that I don't get though is if we're meant to be kinda holding the face square through impact, ie no manipulation of the club face, arm rotation, etc, wouldn't that for a lot of people result in a big push right? Cheers Andrew

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey Andrew! Sure....if your clubface is not square to the arc coming into the ball. Not if the clubface is more tilted down on the downswing like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5XXY_9ozEl4.html you dont need to have as dramatic wrist conditions like DJ to have face tilted down. This may also help here Andrew as Marty and I discuss in detail what is NEEDED to have this style release and NOT push it right: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2nOKt2uclRw.html

@CMcGourty 4 года назад

Great video! Are there alterations to this movement when using driver?

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Some! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TJtx-qVSgVU.html

@JoseMoreno-dt5jc 4 года назад

Thank you Eric. How do we ensure the face is square throughout the backswing? By that I mean, what part of the body causes it to open and us to be aware to eliminate it. Forearm rotation, wrist bend, shoulder?movement?

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey Jose! Yeah there are several factors 1. Grip 2. Lead wrist/trail wrist conditions 3. Shoulder rotation 4. Forearm rotation Being the main factors... Some of these may help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lr8JV6ShmRI.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-85QhjRS1ChE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H9GDJiUSFFw.html

@PaulJones-bw8io 4 года назад

Just introduced this into my game and the results are pretty good however I seem to be taking larger divots now and losing distance,not sure if its due to the wetter ground.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey Paul! Would have to see to say for sure what's going on!

@sirtogii5216 4 года назад

Just ordered one of those bags, could not resist despite the HUGE shipping fee to Europe :-)

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Its awesome!! You will enjoy!

@annefilippobertozzi7601 4 года назад

I might be interested as well: how much is it? Thanks

@sirtogii5216 4 года назад

@@annefilippobertozzi7601 Well the bag is 269 US dollar, shipping another 100 and then the customs to get it into UK was almost another 100. Expensive bag in the end.

@annefilippobertozzi7601 4 года назад

Sir TogII: way too expensive for me, but thanks.

@sirtogii5216 4 года назад

@@annefilippobertozzi7601 Yeah, it ended up past my threshold as well. Different if you live in the USA. But hopefully it will be a great companion on the course for the next 5-10 years and over that period of time it's not that bad I guess.

@andyv6299 4 года назад

I've been doing a no roll release keeping face facing sky for years and hardest thing is working out to have club face preset square to arc at some point, good points about right shoulder I guess that's same as keeping right arm still bent little to force you to get right shoulder down or keep body down so to not doing roll release

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hope you get it sorted my friend!

@Jdeneik 4 года назад

Ernie els seems to have the old school swing, but a gorgeous swing it is

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

No doubt! He traditionally played with a more "open" face style....and he was great! Both ways work! And several other ways :)

@Golferguy1 4 года назад

Eric Cogorno it would be really great if you could create a playlist of "How (insert body part) works in the golf swing" for all these body part specific videos.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Absolutely man...we did just that on www.cogornogolf.com. Part of why we built that site. Organized videos on how all the body parts work in detail at each part of the swing! Also so you could send me your swing for analysis and an improvement plan!

@creamabdul-jabbar6722 2 года назад

I feel like getting the hands high will influence the bad in this. What about a feel of lower hands? More connected to the body? I’m starting to finally get out of the old tired arm swing and feeling it in the body more. I feel like my arms really don’t move that much compared to usual and the feeling I wanted was having my hands lower. But that kind of makes me feel these things. Instead of feeling the contact in my hands I feel the contact weirdly in my core and legs now. It feels like the ball is springing off my body instead of feeling it low compressed sliding of the club face vibration in the hands

@CogornoGolf 2 года назад

Yes and yes

@atorres0381 2 года назад

Hey Eric! Been working on this a lot with all clubs. But I feel like I need to preset the trail shoulder at address and feel like I'm laid off and coming over the top in the downswing to get to the ball. It's so difficult for me to make this move in transition if I don't tilt away from the target at address.

@CogornoGolf 2 года назад

Hope you get it sorted :)

@bjohnson515 4 года назад

It has been said that Rory' McElroy's trail shoulder in relation to his head, going into impact, is as if he is holding a cell phone between his shoulder and ear (area). This gives a compact right side "power pack" for delivery. Your thoughts please. Thanks for the video. Does adding a little lateral side bend at address assist the golfer in keeping that trail shoulder low? High right shoulder demonstration reminded me of Rocco Mediate.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Yes he's a good example of right side bend and neck tilts! So is Tommy Fleetwood! You dont want to add it more at address to get that....no. Only a very little right side bend at setup (through rib cage like 2-4* with 8 iron). You lose that for left side bend during backswing Then re gain it to start down with forward bend So adding more at setup not the way. I talk about that more here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7pbkEuD0NiE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CEsxQyxMM_w.html

@henrikschock9030 4 года назад

very good video- nice job

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Thanks, Henrik!

@barbarawieners6987 3 года назад

Good stuff here, but quick question.. Would an excessively low trail shoulder lead to too much trail side bend and would a player who suffers from this want to feel the trail shoulder more out (toward target line) and forward (toward target) in transition?

@barbarawieners6987 3 года назад

Assuming the player has a square/neutral clubface

@CogornoGolf 3 года назад

Hey Barbara! answered on other video you asked

@migbgold3191 4 года назад

Azinger, Z Johnson, Duval, Trevino - seemed to have been on to something in terms of keeping things simpler.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Great players! Great way to swing it! Not the ONLY way obviously but a good option!

@scedab 4 года назад

what would you suggest for someone who never manipulates his hands, but cannot rotate enough to stop a push? change ball position?

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey David....yeah there are several variables that could help...I would have to see a video of their swing to say for sure... I would make the club face more square/closed. 1. Make grip stronger 2. Make wrist conditions stronger (close face more during backswing)

@jeff4348 4 года назад

Does this right shoulder principal work with driver if I’m fighting a hook?

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Yep and this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XiGbh1SyBXY.html

@chigdyer5087 4 года назад

Sam why am I slicing when trying this s to s swing out love ur videos

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Your clubface is too open, Chig! Have the fix the face first...these may help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YQYqfXKfKY4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lr8JV6ShmRI.html

@jfboomerang1310 Год назад

Competing speakers on the course or range !? Each playing it's own music? Just killer Oh and we can interact with our phones more, while golfing.

@jeffberger7890 4 года назад

So the root cause of good rotation/ good shoulder position is keeping square club face throughout the swing. Correct ?

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

100%...Not the ONLY root cause but the most important and first place to check.

@Rptyler7 4 года назад

There was a statement he said about stalling the hips then the hands / arms takeover then were all over the place. Think I have that issue. Was he implying to finish rotation with the hips or __ (please explain) give me a feel to get to please

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey! The fix is making the clubface more square/closed earlier.....or you WILL NOT rotate.. Find out why face is open. Fix that first.

@jawjuh1005 3 года назад

I wonder what he meant when he said he feels the left shoulder is more of an activator.. pull the left should up and back as opposed to concentrating on the right shoulder?

@CogornoGolf 3 года назад

Either way!

@petercrocitto7383 4 года назад

For me i like my swing to be straight forward and simple - the square to square seems to be the way to go - especially under pressure - I want to think about the shot I have to hit verses having to coordinate my swing.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Simple is good for sure, Peter! Agreed!

@jwfriend6952 Год назад

Does that work with driver?

@CogornoGolf Год назад

Hey JW! Lots of the same principles here with driver. Here is a video Marty and I did on some differences with irons vs driver to keep in mind that might help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TJtx-qVSgVU.html

@DASH1ful 4 года назад

pre five lessons we were told, in tommy armour's book etc. that the left hand and arm guides and the right hand and arm release thru; but, we should do entirely the opposite to that. but, of course, there should be no conscious effort to release the club with the left hand. in fact, we shouldn't even think of trying to hit the ball squarely. in modern fundaments, hogan, told us square the club up by supinating the left wrist. and, you can do that if you have hands like his. but, hogan, himself abandoned this method in the latter part of the his career. and, really when you strike thru with the right arm correctly it will lower the position of the shoulder

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Lots of ways to get it done....it gets hairy when we start talking about FEELs vs what really happens. There is NO FEEL that is correct or incorrect in general (but can be for a specific person) I've shot 65 thinking about my left hand/side, I've shot 65 thinking about my right hand/side. I've shot 65 thinking about nothing, one thing, 3 things. etc. Lot of ways. Depends on what ACTUALLY happens when someone thinks it

@DASH1ful 4 года назад

@@CogornoGolf any feel is correct. but, what isn't correct is the idea that the left shoulder must go up when the right shoulder drops. there should only be a sense ot rotation in the left shoulder thru impact. not that there should be any conscious effort to rotate the shoulder. but, when you try to actively lower the shoulder in the hitting area you run the risk of falling back on the shot. however, when you strike thru with the left side of the right forearm it activates the muscles in a way that they pull the right shoulder down. and, really the feeling should be that you try to strike thru with the left side of the right forearm from the moment you start down.

@musarra195 4 года назад

And you really have to finish left. At least that’s how I felt when I did it tonight. Nice high draw

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

We like high draws!

@nickd3054 4 года назад

How does this relate with my driver

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey Nick! Lots of the same principles here with driver. Here is a video Marty and I did on some differences with irons vs driver to keep in mind that mind help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TJtx-qVSgVU.html

@jballoregon 4 года назад

This is really good stuff. I struggle getting my path neutral with these dynamics...ultimately I end up with a square face but left path. Pull draws with the longer clubs.

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Make sure shoulders don't get open too early and/or put this stick behind you to swing under ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-APsIJ4M2oSY.html

@dparis2172 3 года назад

It could be any number of things causing this, but here is one simple thing to check which helped me reduce pulls: Is your trail foot pointed square to the target line at address? This can make your hips point left of target (for a right-hander) if your lead foot is even slightly flared open. Thus, the club path can easily be forced outside-to-in, and that with a square (to path) clubface will result in a pull. I found when I flared my trail foot slightly (and I emphasize "slightly"), it helped me line my hips to the target, as well as to more easily and consistently achieve a slightly inside-to-out club path.

@stashthevampede0 4 года назад

What are your (and/or Sam's) view about not having as much height in the backswing? With this method, it's clear depth+width are good, but there isn't much height (compared to other swing methods/ideas).

@CogornoGolf 4 года назад

Hey Scott! Perfectly fine to not have as much height in backswing with this swing style. Also would be perfectly fine to have more height like a Jack or Bubba or JT....just have to match the pieces to that to make it work. All can work...have to make the puzzle pieces match. Lower lead arm with this style works well together....more rotation of body, less face rotation. Jack, Bubba, etc different model...different video at some point!