Forearm rotation or rolling is absolute death to an amateur golfer. It takes years, 8 hours a day to get the timing. Forget it. This video is absolutely spot-on in its simplicity and instruction on how to eliminate the need for world class timing. It sets the hands correctly from the start and through the finish. Awesome!
At the very top of Mike’s downswing note his trail hand first un cocking; not unbending No forearm rotation in my swing anymore. I absolutely love the speed, consistency, ease, and accuracy in my’Trail Hand Karate Chop, Vertical Drop Side Bend, Downswing’. All done in one smooth and simple swing; similar what Tom Tomasello taught years ago. Cheers
It's unbelievable how simple this method is. I don't know what I've been doing for twenty five years of bad golf. I now hit it nice and straight without much thought.
This is the best video that I seen ! I have been trying to find and understand the right hand and thank you for the video ! Mr. Malaska explained so well to understand .! Thank you !
Mike Malaska in my opinion is the best instructor to simplify the golf swing. This simple hand movement lowered my ball flight and help me stop scooping the ball. Add his instruction on pushing the left hip out of the way to create hip rotation is awesome. For years I use to over rotate my club face and was difficult to get the timing right. Thanks Mike and Eric. Great stuff...
Brilliant video. Absolutely love this. I’m actually working in this exact move with my right hand and I can honestly say that I’m compressing my irons FAR better and I’m way more consistent.👏🏻👌🏻
Eric, Mike’s explanation of what the right hand does in the swing was by far an an eye-opening instruction. I’ve been forcing my right palm to continue to face the sky from the top of the downswing through the impact zone. WRONG! I give Mike a 10 on this one! Pete
This four part series with Eric and Mike are the best and easiest to follow videos I've ever seen. I went to the local park yesterday and went through these exercises and it totally works. Trust me!
Thanks Eric another amazing video with Master Mike, it always starts with grip. I like his suggestion of using right hand throw motion with ensuring a square face in downswing . It appears it would be more consistent then rolling over hands and forearms in a particular a 63 yr old senior golfer like myself.👍👏
Hi Eric, ive been studying this for abt 1 year and now its paying off! More consistent compressing flying high straight balls. hitting 150-170yrds with my 9iron!
i would consider myself someone with a decent amount of knowledge of the golf swing. aftee seeing this video is just mindblowing. this video is pure gold.
Best teaching duo on youtube bar none. This video with Mike and the other one with the how hips work during downswing has helped me fix my two biggest issues. Slices and topping the ball. My dad's golfing buddies and even random people at the range say I swing way to hard. And it's true I swing almost 90-100% every time (except wedges) but I always felt deep down I was never "out of control" during my swings. The concept of rolling your wrist at impact on a golf swing is the same concept of rolling your wrist during a baseball swing. IT'S A BIG NO NO. You absolutely do not want to roll your wrist during a baseball swing at impact. As it makes you hit groundballs instead of driving through the ball and hitting doubles in the gap or crushing home runs. It never occurred to me that I was rolling my wrist on impact so much which caused me to slice and top the ball every so often. Even though my swing isn't anywhere close where I want it to be. It's exponentially heading in the right direction because of this ah-ha moment/video. Now I can still drive 300+ yards without swinging slower and feeling all out of tempo. For reals best instructors on youtube bar none!!
Fantastic installment here! I actually put the clubface facing the ball on my backswing by accident the other day. I was trying to fix the plane of my backswing because I usually bring it too far inside, hitch a little at the top and then come over the top a bit on my downswing. I think part of the reason why is due to the toe-up position when the left arm gets to parallel. It causes me to rotate too much and I bring the club inside. Having the clubface pointed at the ball more on the takeaway fixes that. Sweet! Now time to practice it!
You guys are continuing to make this easy enough for an idiot like me to understand. I have ALWAYS had an out-to-in path, and have been working for the last year to "shallow" the club on the downswing. And like Mike shows, I end up with my right palm facing the sky a clubface wide open. Time to just concentrate on face-to-path. And getting that left hip out of the way.
Catching up late with Cogorno (and now aware of Malaska) golf videos - I felt this lesson was as usual a wonderful demonstration of solid thought and method applied to an essential but often overcomplicated move, to me it painted a clear picture. A really great piece of instruction and I'm off to practice with a smile on my face, thanks so much!
I started off with Jim hardy 15 years ago as the industry taught like Mike said roll release and being new golfer was hopeless at it, so I adopted jim hardy teaching and had instant success 15y ago and never had roll release and I've got to level that I'm happy and can enjoy playing
Can't believe how long I have searched for an explanation of how the wrist should move. I have always felt more comfortable the way Mike Malaska described but aways strived to do it the opposite way. Not any more. Thanks for the great tip.
Malaska took my handicap down to a 4-6. Was stuck at 14-18 for over 20 years. He's the MAN. best investment I've ever made in golf was subscribing to his website. Keep it up MM!
Eric, all of your videos and your channel are second to none. The new series of videos you’ve been putting out....for free, are Golf Gold man. Your channel and videos have changed my game. Thank you sir. I’ll be making it out to Bethlehem PA for sure. Cheers
Mike is clearly correct about releasing the club through impact without twisting the face. One thing I would add - the right hand grip can't be strong (that is right hand under the grip with V pointed outside right shoulder). A neutral right hand and neutral left hand grip is a must to release the club the way mike advocates.
Really appreciate videos like this with a leading synapses of explanation, for the times when I can’t sit through the entire length of the video! Thank you.
I was just like Mike in that teachers told me to roll the face and should see the knuckles at impact. I have been working on less hands and driving the left heel into the ground and now my slow motion shows the face "closed" on backswing and downswing just like this video shows. But, I am now hitting the ball more consistent and able to control high, low, draw, fade on command using this technique.
Pumped to see these. I just got a lesson after playing the best round of my life and he said my club face was closed at parallel. I couldn’t hit the ball after he told me to hit it the other way. So happy to see this. Sticking with the takeaway and face rotation in this video!
Great video. Oddly enough I came upon this method on my own by accident. I was trying to roll my wrist/forearms and was all over the place. Once I started keeping my right wrist in the method like this video I hit it straight down the middle. It works!
Phenomenal video. My mind is blown that you two guys are collaborating. It’s awesome. Eric, keep up the great work. Your passion for learning and teaching is appreciated.
My mind is blown! A few months ago I narrowed my viewership to two coaches, Mike and Eric. I feel I have made the right choice. Mike has been places...and Eric is right behind him. Congratulations to both. Your lessons are invaluable.
If you're standing more upright, the rolling forearms have a lower rate of closure and release can be more effective. But overall, what Mike is teaching is unbelievably better. More reliable and gives you plenty of power.
its a pleasure to be able to learn this kind of stuff for free considering both of you have dedicated your lives to golf and teaching. great vid great vid
Fantastic teaching Eric. I can’t wait to get back to working on my game and this will help me get rid of that flip action. That flip has been something I was taught back in the late 80s. Thanks for bringing Mike along to add another way of explaining this.
Ericc, Mike is a great teacher and theses couple of videos are EXCELLENT, thanks for doing it. I have been following you and working on my "rotation" with some success but this explanation brings it all together. I wish i would have seen it 2 years ago.
It is so refreshing to see someone with your caliber of knowledge, to be humble enough to listen to Mike Malaska. I am going to subscribe to your channel now and probably sign up for some lessons with you. Nice going Eric!
Mike is absolutely right about shallowing the club. You DO NOT need to shallow the club on the downswing, simply come back to the ball on the same or very similar plane as your backswing, provided ofcourse you have a good backswing. If your backswing is correct i.e. quite steep, and more of a pick up then it's almost impossible to come over the top. If you need proof, go watch Louis Oosthuizen on slow motion, absolutely no shallowing on the downswing.
I've been playing for over 30 years and think I was using the right hand correctly when I first started out. Then, the more technical I got, the weaker my grip became and the worse I got over time. I started doing all the bad stuff Mike is talking about. Thanks for posting this. I'll try this, it has to work.
Fantastic video!! Towards the end of the video Mike mentioned he would take a look at the person and how their joints lined up to establish a proper grip for that individual. That seems to be the starting point of how to get this throwing release working properly. Is there anyway you guys can do an in depth video explaining how one would be able to assess themselves and finally have a grip that works the right way to implement this hand action? Thanks for your time!
Yes please show how to self evaluate how one’s joints line up to establish a proper grip. This video is awesome, but so many people have incorrect grips which is probably why most rotate their forearms to begin with.
Really good lesson. I have been looking for something to describe how the wrists work through the swing, especially as the hands pass the ball. I have also been having some questions at the game away. I keep the club closed but I was trying to do it without a relatively still wrist. This e plains what I was down my wrong.
Thanks, Paul! Hope this helps my friend! These may help as well with regards to the wrist motions and how they depend on grip/face angle ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3QQUyRnRSJU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8Cg2O8atmYY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S776LyvM6Pc.html
Hi Eric really really great video. Such a valuble lesson. Thanks. Just want to say that when I take the club right wrist backwards (really right palm a lot pointed to the ground) and do 3/4 swing, the balls go amazing even the club is tilted down like you say in this video. If I take the club also right wrist backwards but not so much palm down the balls are also going amazing (the clubface is more square )...I do not like the first option but I must say wow....Would you like to comment thanks.
I literally got this lesson (from a very good instructor just hired at my country club) finally after 15 years of getting bad lessons. So many teachers trying to get me to rotate my forearms (toe up waist high), manipulating the club unnaturally outside on the backswing and inside on the way down, . Those devils knew I would have to come back and waste my money because I had no chance to time that up consistently. Should be required viewing for every PGA professional.
As Mr. Malaska and yourself have just alluded to, I think a lot of bad golf swings are a product of 'bad' instruction from 'back in the day'... Thanks, William
Good stuff Eric! Jim Hardy has been teaching this cocnept for years and calls it the Right Inward Throw (RIT). One of the drills I learned was using the concept you are illustrating with just the right arm/wrist hitting very short shots. It's amazing that toe up is still being taught even though it's opening the clubface to the arc.
Dude! This was a fantastic video! Mike is great but the two of you together... Following this advice would help SO many amateurs it's unreal. And yes I know you have umpteen videos on your channel already on the same subject, but this one was pure.
Mike, please do a video on the wrist action at impact such that one does not flick their wrists excessively and add or decrease loft and resulting inconsistent flight trajectories and distance control. Tie this into controlling the momentum and proper timing through the impact area if you would. Big thanks!
Another great vid! Every golf teacher needs to getone of those big- headed clubs! Lol When I was a member of his website, he used to be all about 'tipping out the club' on downswing. I tried that for like 6 months and I could hit some pretty good shots at times--but I generally hit it left of left! I like this new 'low to no rotation' school of golf instruction that is emerging. I think it is reflecting some successful players and what they are doing, e.g. Dustin & Koepka. Hopefully it is better for us hacks-- I know all that forearm rotation led to a lot of ugly shots! BTW- this video had to be pre-social distancing guidelines! Lol
i can add myself to the list of "victims" of that "rotating arms" BS. i got back to this method and it saved me. i think that is why i identified with MM so well. the two of you are a great team! :-)
great video, thanks!! that clears many things and to some extent explains my shank too ( am I right??). The problem we all face now is to get out and practice..
This is so good. I was really struggling to get my clubhead square and thought it was my release when in fact it was forearm rotation that was making it really hard for me to time things up. After removing my forearm rotation, it is amazing how much better I am striking the ball.
Hey Ray! Appreciate the kind words! See if these help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y7rV-20bsH0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-symVln6qx1M.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UOjJSWEA_lI.html
Another gread video! Im guilty of the wrist turn as so many have teached.. it makes total sence that thats kind of a jeapordy way of using the wrists due to timing! Im going to the range today and going to try focusing on the wrist movement in the right arm!
Eric Cogorno Golf It sure helped! It first felt strange, but then it felt like I got more solid contact. Couldnt keep the ball speed, but still I got longer average carry. Meaning I got a better smash-factor. I just think I need to be more comfortable with the changes to ump up the ball speed. Even my previous slices started fading and it was easier to keep a straight ballflight! My practice drill today was to start with quarter swings, just focusig on wrist and checking clubface. Then I gradually went up to full swing. Whenever I felt I lost controll I started over with quarter swings. Really fun and an eye opener! Thanks again!
Throwing with the right hand to accelerate the club head will blow Hogan's bowed left wrist out of the water. Unless it happens after impact which brings in timing issues. I would also have liked you to have grabbed Mike's right forearm to demonstrate there was no forearm rotation in backswing. I think it is difficult to get a neutral face at top without any forearm rotation. I agree with the club shallowing angle especially wrt the A swing. There is a huge plane shift as you start down with the left palm moving groundwards only to have to abruptly reverse direction to square up club face into impact.
"Throwing with the right hand to accelerate the club head will blow Hogan's bowed left wrist out of the water." Well....you have to remember there are different release styles based on clubface and grip. Hogan had a WEAKer grip pattern and less turn down clubface... So OF COURSE he needed more supination and flexion in lead wrist If you have stronger grip or face more tilted down no need for as much flexion or supination I talk about that more thoroughly below: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S776LyvM6Pc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lxyLhDS_UrM.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8Cg2O8atmYY.html hope that helps
I think this video make a great deal of sense with the full swing. Does this also apply to short pitch shots? I believe it would be hard to hit pitch shots with enough loft and control with the club face this way. Thoughts???
Hey Chuck! I would not do this for short shots around the green unless you are going for a low trajectory shot. For normal pitch shots I would open the face more on backswing (more toe up) to expose more bounce, launch the ball higher and control spin better. I talk about that more below ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fqxIpUSaU2M.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rMTw5aDTPzU.html
My aah-haa moment is checking the lead grip for least amount of roll through the strike zone and think this method accommodate your body/joint structure... Even if you don't understand how to align to your joints you can experiment with your grip (strong-neutral-weak) to see which grip position eliminates or reduces rolling... Most of us have been encouraged to position the lead hand to where we see two to three knuckles and the V should be pointing somewhere between chin and rear shoulder... We usually stay with the grip that is recommended and eventually it will feel comfortable because we have unknowingly made adjustments in our swing to accommodate for the grip change... I can distinctly remember Jack Nicklaus aligning the club handle/grip more in his palm and not in the fingers, reason for this was he had short fingers and big palms. However, people would say not everyone could be Jack Nicklaus, true but his point was find a grip that fits you... I can remember trying this grip, having success but my golf teacher told me it was wrong and that I would end up creating blisters on my hand and wearing out gloves. So I stopped... My lesson learned over the years in regards to gripping the club is, I position my lead hand on the club at address (with face square to target) and move my hand strong to weak until I feel relaxed and comfortable. My grip changes slightly for longer to shorter clubs... Thanks for posting...
Hi Eric, I always come back to this video when I need help with my release. I was curious if there are any training aids you might recommend for feedback on a proper passive release, like the Hanger or Power Package or Swingyde.
Hey Bradley! All COULD be effective....but I would really need to see your swing to say for sure what YOU would need. Here is some on the passive release that may help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XiGbh1SyBXY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TtRDa3s7Bwo.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2nOKt2uclRw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gViO3rwKspk.html
I totally agree with this for a certain type of shot. I call this my flick swing but if I really want to kill a driver I go for more of a chop feeling with my right arm in the downswing. More like the skipping a rock, hatchet, chop feel with a powerful hip click- as if my right palm would be facing a camera in the face on view. Am I off or is this for more of a neutral hinge trap/cover sort of feel? In other words this feels like an UNHINGING(flexion/extension within reason of course) move and the other feels like UNCOCKING(radial/ulnar). Is this feeling to keep it simple for people? Btw that contraption for wrist motion is pure genius!!! Love this content!!!! I have not included "rolling" in this discussion for a reason(it's a different topic altogether).
Hey Jacob! Unfortunately as you know thats simply an impossible question for me to answer......I would have to see your swing. IS what you're feeling what you are really doing? How much are you doing it? When exactly is it happening? What other variables to you have in your swing? Sounds like you have a good understanding of things so Im sure you will get it sorted!
@@CogornoGolf 😆 good point! I guess what I am thinking of is your video about the right shoulder. Passive release and right arm move. They are more of a right arm underneath/chop sort of feel with more turn. Mike seems to describe more flexion/extension in this video(with other moving parts) with his wrist device. In the passive release video is that more radial/ulnar or roll. It's not about my swing personally. Just the concept because I can't seem to reconcile those 2 things. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XiGbh1SyBXY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TtRDa3s7Bwo.html Would these be different release patterns? Slap hinge vs uncocking or something like that?
Hey Buddy! Good questions, but same answers I need to give you as above :) Join www.cogornogolf.com so you can ask these questions in our FB group and I can actually SEE your swing and give you good feedback specific to what YOU need or dont need to do. Only cost $49/mo man.
