Good Omens || Secret Record, Season 3 Clue || Fan Theory 

Love that!!! I mean, also hate it, because poor Aziraphale, but great insight!

Poor Zira! Oh I hope this doesn't mean what I think it means.

I think that’s further represented by the guy in the right corner with the mask on. It’s one of the Nazi zombies, but it could be a metaphor for an enemy hiding in plain sight, which is exactly what I think the Metetron is.

I was hoping that Saraquel, at least, was on their side and that Uriel and Michael would receive some retribution by helping them in the end. We didn't see Sandlephon in series 2, he was a really nasty piece of work, (remember he punched Aziraphael in the stomach in series 1) Perhaps, he will be back in series 3?

It brings to my mind their s1 conversation about how "The Big One" battle to come will be Heaven & Hell vs Humanity.

Agreed, concerning Saraqael. She seems to have a naturally big heart, and isn't ambitious like Michael and Uriel. Azi might find a few allies up there. The Crow Road is next on my to read list, so I can make those connections that they've laid out for us!

I love this take!

@@Sendarya The Crow Road is about betrayal.

@@Sendarya Sorry, in full, the Crow Road is about family betrayal and covering up a murder, while finding love and (spoiler) finding a unique way to say it.

I love this idea! Plus Saraqael has some kind of a history with Crowley from his angel-days. I think he was lying when he said he didn't remember. She also refrained from turning Maggie and Nina into pillars of salt when he interceded and hustled them out of the shop.

An excellent interpretation! Not everything must be literal, and he certainly is facing a great deal of emotional pain and turmoil in s3. Thank you for sharing that idea!

Similarly, I took it as him being stabbed in the back by Metatron/heaven.

Damn that makes lots of sense 👏🏼👏🏼

@@lakethefrog thank you 😇

@@Sendarya thank you for saying that, your videos and research are amazing at helping me see details and meanings that I haven't seen before!

I didn't know that, thanks for the info!

I sense fanfiction being conceived just reading your post, lol. Lovely, thank you for the additional information!

interesting word choice

Well, that is the obvious meaning, although he takes a lot more than two records. I count a minimum of 4, and maybe 5, in the stack he leaves with. So, that's still not 21 minutes. That's probably why they used 78's instead of LP's in this scene though, so that it LOOKED like one thing, and hid the other so cleverly.

Yes, we discussed this when we were trying to puzzle it out. My mother, who was born in 1930, had a decent collection of 78s, which are mine, now. As Sendarya said, he picked up a stack of them, not just two. Even so, your two record idea almost fits, as if he just listened to the first and second movement, it would indeed come out to just over 21 minutes. However, we hear him listening to the FOURTH (final) movement, well past the 21-minute mark.

Well, Neil is a master at subtle subversions. I like this idea! I just spent all of 5 minutes looking at the ryder waite deck, as you suggested, and now I want to learn more!

When the Tarot also means: Fear, Anxiety, & Stress... I will feel definitely feel all of those in the next season 😰

AHH, this is so cool! Thanks for sharing that. Just Googled and see that it can also represent a tomb or coffin (the Rider-Waite version you mentioned depicts the swords arranged around the tomb of a knight). In the shop, the swords are inserted in a coffin/tomb-like box, i.e the Sword Box magic trick, in which the magician's assistant is put in the box, the box is stuck full of swords, but then the assistant emerges unscathed in the end (in tune with the resurrection theme of the season). Just wow. If I had any doubt this was more than a coincidence, you just helped shrink it considerably. So much to ponder!

I just commented a couple minutes ago on the whole tarot card thing before I had gotten to your comment - glad to see I'm not the only Nutter on here😂 But I thought because of the placement of the swords and also because of the meanings, that it is more likely a combo of the Ace (the sword pointing down between their hands), and the Three (the ones piercing Aziraphale in the back - for that, the card would have to be sideways, but we all know there are readings where that is possible). The Three shows a heart being pierced, and with the placement in the back, at least one of those would be piercing the heart, at least the way I saw it. For me, the Four just didn't feel quite right - had to dig a little too deep for that one. I wish Neil would just pop by, tell us if we're right or wrong and give us all a cookie😂 Hi fellow Nutter❤ You're funny - I love you ...

I also thought immediately of the Tarot, but I thought of the 3 of Swords, not the 4. Could be both!

I agree to this. It’s more likely. Music is quiet important to the showrunners. See Neil’s and Terry’s weakness for every music playing in the Bentley will turn into Queen.

Thanks so much for this tidbit! I dug like crazy to see if I could find any version of this partciular performance on 78, and obviously could not. "In our world" I love it.

@JoMadge in addition to that note on prime, I swear somewhere there’s a BTS clip or interview with Neil Gaiman where he’s like “unfortunately some of the records are the wrong size, but by the time we realized it was too late and it was something we just had to accept would be different in the show.” I can’t remember the context of this, so idk if he was talking about the jukebox records for everyday or the Shostakovich one, but I remember hearing it somewhere. I totally agree with you guys about the 21 minutes connection though, because I’ve listened to Shostakovich’s 5th and when I heard aziraphale talk about it in the show I was like… either he’s only talking about one movement or he’s completely wrong 😂

​@@GRHB-qg2ko Neil was talking about how the 45rpm singles of "Everyday" that were miracled into the jukebox had small-hole spindle inserts to make them more easily playable on multi-speed home record players, rather than the standard larger hole that a jukebox designed just to play singles would require. (Not sure I worded that clearly, but hopefully you get the gist).

Ines, thank you so much for sharing your expertise for this video! Time to go look up some Shostakovich on my own... 🎹

@@Jen_S_Hassler1258 yes, I extremely encourage to listen the three of them, they are masterpieces! 😊

Thank you so much @inesitaviolinista ! Your insights were amazing. :)

I'm listening now and they're wonderful @@inesitaviolinista

@@nisal5064 ohhh, you made my day :)

I did not know that about the artist of :you don't own me". I did notice it playing in the background in the scene when Az picks up the records. Everything is intentional! Thank you for sharing that detail. I haven't even tried to analyze the soundtrack, I just love it so much. David Arnold did some genius work.

I think the Ace and Three fits well - this separation and what they'll go through is negative, it's a massive sweeping change the to balance they maintained by not discussing their fears and the divide in their perspectives - But ultimately they will come out the stronger, personally and relationship-wise, for having to confront these things. And I think the Three and pain being both inevitable and necessary - I think that could hint about Aziraphale learning about what the Fall actually entailed, of him finally having to acknowledge that the idea of one side being always Good and the other always Evil is a toxic system in itself. I think it will be freeing for him to not feel guilt that who he is isn't very 'Heavenly', and let himself fully embrace his love for Crowley and Earth without that fear and guilt. Aziraphale is the Three because Crowley was already forced to go through that introspection when he Fell and chose for himself that he didn't want to be what Hell expected of him. He'd been trying to protect Aziraphale from having to go through that same struggle, but ultimately Aziraphale will be better off knowing - just as Eve was. At least that's been my interpretation.

As someone with only a casual musical education, I look forward to those who know more about it taking a closer look! I love the soundtrack, and I'd love to hear about anything you spot. Have fun as you INVESTIGATE! :)

Ehm, you guys have the same voice like I do in your head when you write/read INVESTIGATE in capital letters, right? 😅

@@user-qt7wl2wt5g I do hope so, it was a teensy reference 😅😅

@@Sendarya Thank you very much, I look forward to finding out more 🧐🧐

@@user-qt7wl2wt5g I can only hear Him when you guys type it that way 😂

I believe that God has been usurped by the Metatron. And these would hint in that direction as well. In my mind, it comes down to the ineffable plan vs. the Great plan and I think the Metatron knows both, but doesn't like God's Great plan so he has found a way to get rid of her in order to stick with the ineffable plan (destroying humanity?).

Maybe another nod to why there is no voiceover from God in this series?

Exactly! He's not the softy everyone thinks he is. Thank you so much for the lovely comment :) And enjoy the concerti, they are both amazing on their own, and perfect fits for the Ineffable's.

Thank you! I assure you, it blew us out of the water when we found it. This really does demonstrate that they put some deeply hidden easter eggs out there for the fans. There are many more, I'm sure!

@@Sendarya I’m convinced the fandom will keep finding clues and easter eggs right until season 3 drops. And even then I wouldn’t be surprised if we missed a few.

Ling ling would be proud.

@@purpleirken1529 Well, I have probably put in forty hours of watching Good Omens by now! 😆

That is a fantastic explanation for the 78's that were stumping us. Thank you for sharing that insight!

The 'Everyday' records were 45rpm singles, though. But yes, you're so right about symphonies on 78. My mom had a few sets of those, plus a Glenn Miller collection. Soooo much record flipping and changing, LOL!

I noticed on a rewatch just yesterday that Seraquel wears hers on the left, but on a different finger than the other angels. Makes you wonder exactly how much we should be looking at their rings....:)

Thank you! We had so much fun down this rabbit hole

I went looking and can't see it. In the Opposite Sides video? Also, I hope you join the discord when we open it! Then you can easily share your thoughts and essays!

@@Sendarya yes, there! But I hope you don't mind if I post it here too, sonyou can read it. I've never used discord, but I'm tempted! I think I will! 😊 Here it goes: "It's an interesting phenomenon" It is! It wasn't like I didn't like it, but it was confusing by moments. But Zira and Crowley's dynamics are so cozy, I couldn't stop watching. 💜 I think there IS a point! How can balance exist if there's only one side? I was rambling about the Physics concept of balance, (I have a point later sorry if it takes long to achive it) in my language that word can be translated as two different words that are synonyms, but also different concepts, balance (as the spanish word for "equilibrio", I've found the word "equilibrium" as a translation, but I'm not sure if it fits) is refer to the physical ability of a body to maintain ALL its structures by carrying out forces that fight against each other, so that the body remains balanced and to overcome gravity, while the second concept ("balance" in spanish too) is the movement that a body makes when it leans to one side and the other, or forward and backward, up and down, is the dynamic movement. In English it souds so redundant, I'll try to explain it deeper, but it is a grammar nightmare to translate this concepts. I hope I don't make it even harder to understand. To simplify, in spanish "equilibrio" also means a very stable balance, while "balance" is the action of adding or taking weight to get "equilibrio"/a very stable balance, but if you go to a translator it would translate both as the same word. (See? Grammar nightmare). As I understand, God and Satan are the forces pulling and pushing from the sides, moving things up and down back and forward, unbalancing everything in an attempt to win their argument, and earth is the midground (the battlefield, it seems too) in this fight, while Aziraphale and Crowley have always stand in the inflection point, (they come and go but mainly they are) where everything converges. They have come all the way from their sides and reached the middle point, and they have danced around each other in a waltz that leads them to understand each other, to be in each other's place, and also understanding humanity, that is standing at the same place as them (I mean Earth). I really like the analogy that David Tennat has said about Aziraphale and Crowley, they are Ying and Yang. And ultimately I feel like that is their mission, unlike humans, Aziraphale and Crowley have power, they might be the force that counterbalances the actions of heaven and hell. That's why it's so important for Metatron to separate them. I like to picture it as if it all was an antique measuring scale, where heaven and hell are the weight pans on each side, God and Satan are the very weight in their respective sides, Earth is the central support point, humanity is the beam working as the axis that moves with the inertia of the weight placed at each pam, and our Ineffable duo are the force that balances the scale everytime it goes unbalanced. This is my theory about the Ineffable Plan. We talked about "balance" and "equilibrio", to me God, Devil, Heaven and Hell are the forces of chaos upon existence, chaos on the right (good) and on the left (evil), unbalancing the everything, Aziraphale (in all good there's some evil) and Crowley (in all evil there's some good) are counterbalance, dancing around right and left, spinning around in their cosmic waltz, balancing the scale (they are balance and counterbalance, Ying and Yang, the dynamic movement). And the Ineffable Plan is everything as a whole, is balance (equilibrio) achived by the forces maintaining ALL its structures by carrying out forces that fight against each other, so that the everything remains balanced and to overcome destruction. "What's the point of it all? Demons, angels". The point is Balance. Balancing (adding and taking weight from each side) the forces playing with the cosmo and keeping existence balanced (stable, en equilibrio). Or as Michael would say "keep the status quo static and, uh, quoey". I believe that Aziraphale and Crowley are God's insurance plan to keep everything spinning, to preserve the divine creation. Also I think God shipped them from the beginning too.😝 I hope this wasn't too tedious to read. 🙈

@@ALeXZVaMpYRoCkZ Thank you for sharing that. I do see your point about balance, and agree. But heaven isn't good, and Crowley isn't evil with a little bit of good in him. there are other ways that we have sides, opposites, without choosing sides or labeling people as good or evil. Yin and yang aren't good and evil, they are forces of nature. It's the artificially constructed sides that must be deconstructed. The natural ones, darkness and light, joy and sorrow, the sun and the moon, those sort of opposites are the ones that bring balance. Ph, and your English is very good!!

@@Sendarya there'll be a didcord?! Count me in!

@@Sendarya Hm, food for thoughts: we keep talking about Heaven not actualy being good and Crowley being so - can you define "good"? Because to my understanding, the original concept of that word wasn't "morally agreeable", but "in accordance with god's... orders" or something. And in that respect, who know who is good? It's... you know... ineffable :) That is basically the meaning of the Book of Job - which we have been carefully presented, hmmm.

In a reply I made now, I mention Keeping Score at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e3RbWSfhlp4.html this episode is on this Symphony.

I don't know, but we keep finding more every time we look!! 😂

Hahaha yes 😅

whaaaaat??? Huh. It does. eeek.

Completely agree!

Agree 100% I'm optimistic for a happy ending, but suspect it's going to be a 'hell' of a rollercoaster ride to get there.

And over and over and over. And over and over. 😄

But it is....a Clue!😁

@@Sendarya I love that scene. Crowley has such annoyed husband energy

Imagine all the effort put into making all these small details in the first place, lol Thank you :)

Thanks! 😃

Blew our minds when we found it, too!

There is also the four of swords, which had a much longer description but was about stopping to rest and self-reflection after reaching a milestone. I don't remember if that applies here.

I'm hearing a lot about Tarot cards related to this scene, so it's going on my list to look into further. Thank you! :)

@@JoRiver11 There are other, darker possible meanings for the four. I can't discount it entirely because the fact that it depicts a tomb and the magic trick itself is a box inside of which you "kill" and then "resurrect" someone is just too in tune with the theme of the season.

Thank you for saying so. Don't worry, it's not weird to say. I hear it a lot now (something I didn't know about myself!)

hugs!

I'm sure they'll go to the cinema, and the local pub :)

It's not enough and would be a terrible waste of all Crowley is! And boring besides. Crowley should stay out among people, working his mischief and magic, getting in and out of trouble on earth and supernaturally.

I originally thought so too but after watching season 2…he just looked so tired, so done with it all. The only time he even drives his car is to and from Aziraphale’s. And the implication from “we both get plenty of use out of it” is that this is Crowley’s normal now, he basically lives there and only leaves to sleep. Crowley’s the one who spends the season imploding because their precious peaceful existence has been ruined by heaven and hell. He was happy with the monotony. He’s the one fighting every step of the way to avoid excitement and adventure while Aziraphale is actively getting involved. The way things are at the moment I think he’d be happier in the cottage than Aziraphale would. Also Britain is a pretty small island. The distance between the outskirts of London and the South Downs is like an 1hr and that’s driving normal speeds not Crowley speeds while disregarding all laws of physics and traffic. Day trips are very doable.

@@MsKnowItAll26 Yes, I suppose we must allow Crowley to retire and not have to entertain us forevermore. Perhaps as these two supernatural entities become more human, they will become mortal. Because thousands of years in a cottage, well... As you pointed out, he can still make day trips, "disregarding all laws of physics and traffic." :-)

Actually the South Down are only an hour and a bit from London. And there's Glyndebourne and Brighton, the Komedia and loads of great pubs. I reckon Crowley would be fine. Would be nice to see him driving through the Lanes in the Bentley!

Thank you for the extra details about the 78's. That was a really puzzling bit for us! I do think it might be a CLUE to look harder, which we did. The label, Brandlorf, is surely just so they did not have to pay royalties.

It all depends on the deck - my four has two swords pointing down at the head of a tomb, and two crossed at the feet. That's why I went with a combo of the Ace (one sword pointing straight down), and the Three (three swords piercing a heart - seen sideways, piercing a back would work well too). And the combination of meanings fits really well...at least I think so anyway😂

you are quite right@@sassymusic77 ! apologies :)

@@FeathPymArt Oh, absolutely no need for apologies! If Neil himself doesn't come into this thread and comment to let us know what he was actually thinking, there's no way for any of us to know who's right or wrong, or if any of us got it at all! But it is fun to debate and speculate! Thanks for joining me in the debate - so much intelligence and wonder in this fandom!❤

What a great idea! You can email me, or join my Discord when it opens later this week. Maybe we can get a thread going just compiling everyone ideas!