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This restores my faith that not every "restored" muscle car isn't a hatchet job that is going to take months/years and tens of thousands to fix/finish.
People mix up restored and refurbished. In my mind, restored means turning a car into as close to as it was factory built as possible. So many are just refurbished but advertised as restored.
I'm restoring a 69 GTO Judge for a client who's been screwed by two shops in this build,but after many hours of welding and installing a bunch of new metal..I already fit the parts,then painted all of them...Now the chassis will be painted next week!! Carousel Red,Muncie 4 speed 400 Ram Air With white interior!! Color is amazing!!
As a mechanic myself , i believe that the front calipers should be swapped side to side because each were put on the wrong side of the car , as the bleeders should be at the upper point to let the air out, never downwards lile they are now. Aside from that it is a very solid car
A lot have people have picked on that not realizing that wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be on the right or left sides. You just use the high bleeder and leave the lower one alone 😁
A lot have people have picked up on that not realizing that wilwood calipers have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be on the right or left sides. You just use the high bleeder and leave the lower one alone 😁
Lakewood A-body nohop traction bars. They move the upper control arm up which changes the instant center of the car and prevents the car from melting the rear tires on launch. With a set of air bags in the rear coil springs, you can further adjust pre-load by adding or letting air out of the bags inside of the springs. 🤘
Had a ‘68 with the same color scheme back in the early 80s when I was in HS. Car was a 400,4 speed posi car that came from western MA and for a NE car was surprisingly in about the same shape- frame and underside was almost new only rust spot was in rt front fender near the bottom of the panel probably from a plugged drain. Funny someone picked up on the upside down valve covers I had bought a set of M/T covers to put on and couldn’t get them to fit unless the logo was upside down- bothered me too, I ended up putting the old chrome ones back. Punched out the clock blank and put a Sun tach in there- fit perfect . Added sport mirrors . Put on air shocks to get the rear tires to fit - ya know typical high school kid upgrades . so if it’s survived all these years and someone finds red/black/vinyl top ‘68 4 speed Hurst shifter car with two holes drilled in the trunk for air shocks lines, living in the NE area - I still have a spare set of keys, pictures and some fond memories of her.....
Kiwi, if that is a real GTO it will have 242 in the VIN number. We missed you last night at Uncle Tony's Place. Just not the same without you there on Thursday night😂 !
Those brackets on the rear end are aftermarket. I used to run them on my GM coil spring cars. They change rear suspension geometry for better tire hookup.
@@shacklifecustoms8430 Hi. Different companies used to sell them. They were commonly called no hop traction bars. I have a set on my 71 Chevelle. I can't remember who made them. Mr. Gasket I think. I bought them in the 80's so it's been a while. Andrew
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 I wonder if GM sold them over the counter ( performance parts). They were probably made by someone else for them. If they have a GM stamp on them who know how rare they might be. Thanks for all your no nonsense videos You show the ugly under belly of the classic car hobby that not many talk about. Andrew
I believe people call them Anti-hop bars / brackets. Also GM added braces between the upper & lower control arms frame mounts, often called 4 speed braces, but the RAM AIR Automatics got them too
Hi Kiwi, nice content! When you showed the drivers side brake fluid leak I noticed the blender is on the bottom of the caliper, that will never bleed. Maybe they swapped sides for the calipers, then the bleeders would be on top as intended.
A lot of people have caught that but it's a bit of a trap. Wilwood calipers have bleeders on the top and bottom so they can be used on the left or right. Quite clever really. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching😎
It's great to see a good resto and good that you share it. You gotta love the iconic Goat! Sorry to hear about your knee, hope it doesn't give you too much grief and cheers for a speedy recovery.
Very nice, back in the day my room mate had a red Pontiac like this, it wasn't a GTO, it got totaled in some dumb move on his part. He survived but that red beauty was off to the shredder
So refreshing to see you check one out and it all looks good Kiwi. Thanks for doing this video, I' sure the GTO guys will tell you if that bench seat is correct or not..
Always a pleasure to watch your videos/projects. Nothing worse than working on someone else's FU-K UP - takes ten times as long to get right - if at all - great to see a good outcome from an inspection. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
Always nice to see one that’s actually what it appears to be ! For all of the reality hacker videos you’ve shown I appreciate that you’ve found one that gets the Kiwi stamp of approval ! Lol. Take care Chris
It's nice to work on one too!! Fixing other people's cock ups and/or deliberate corner cutting does start to wear on you after a while. It's also refreshing that this video is doing so well with the viewers, it's well on the way to being my most watched video! Thanks man😎👍
A bench seat and column shift was your standard automatic transmission-equipped GTO. Bucket seats were an option, and then the console and floor shift were yet another option beyond that - which made buckets a prerequisite. I detest seeing bucket seats with a column shift and naked carpeted tunnel... Why haven't we seen those upper control arm relocation brackets made for '79-'04 Mustangs?????? Or did I miss something?
It's well worth paying someone who is an expert in whatever make or model of car you're looking at buying. Consider it an insurance policy against fraud and the headaches, heartaches and money you'll go through if you don't. What you'll pay someone is a drop in the bucket compared to what it might cost to fix all the problems afterwards, some if which may not be repairable.
My college room mate had a goat and we raced often from red light to red light . I remember an old fkr in a Commando beat us and beat us bad 🤣 . Gears baby , gears
Another trick for the aluminum intake is to cut the water crossover off so there is a gap between the crossover and main intake. You can then bolt the water crossover down as normal, but align the intake manifold ports with the centerline of the head ports. With the crossover attached, tightening the front bolt can actually pull the manifold ports off center and create power robbing turbulence due to misalignment.
An old dude years ago showed me how to tighten up one of those Pontiac intakes ,and basically he said get all the bolts in but loose ,and tighten that small front one first and pull on the intake while laying across the rad support. Have the main bolts loose enough so it can slide but not lift and snug that front bolt and move on to the other intake bolts. It's definitely a feel thing to get em snug enough so it'll slide a little and not lift,or be too tight and not move.
The car looks super solid, + Its got a real frame under it, not like the crappy early Mustang unit construction. Minor detailing/repairs =great car. Izzy Strong,,,
I've owned one Pontiac in my life and it was quite the learning experience! Fun car though... Get Well soon Kiwi--I had surgery today and I'm the couch watching you!😎
one of the teachers in my elementary school in the 70s had as GTO judge..orange witthe decals..was a cool car! Personally i always wanted a boneville or a catalina..
The best part of this Goat, is the "Hop-Stop" bars in the back. I'm sure everyone has chimed in about them. I put a set on my 65 GTO mid 70s, (marketed by Genuine Suspension back then) and they cured the wheel hop from my Tri powered 389, Muncie, 3.55 12 bolt posi. We all know Pontiac only had a 12 bolt behind their 70 GTOs, and T/As. 70 only. This car didn't come from the factory with it, but it's a nice addition. Actually, the only thing I like about that car. The bench seat, column shifted automatic, and vinyl top should be on a Tempest. Is this a real 242 car? Doesn't matter, i'm sure you've already sold it. Thanks for the tour.
Kiwi, thanks for the interesting content. It's Thursday night so you might be doing something with Tony? Always like the GTOs had a 65 389 single quad for speed. Fun car of my youth.
The weird things people ordered years ago. I had a 70 gto, with ac, hood, lemans nose, bucket seats, 8-track stereo, 242 vin, I found the build sheet under the back seat, weird.
All 69 GTOs had a 10 bolt rear end. The Chevrolet 12-bolt rear end is a nice upgrade. Bench seat was standard and bucket seats were optional. I think the best combo is a bucket seat, 4 Speed, no console. The hood tach is not a standard GTO item, it is optional as well. It would be nice to see the cowl tag to see what the original interior and exterior colors were.
What I found online about Buckets verse Bench Seat was that both were "standard", but original Bench Seat 69 GTOs are rare (except the "Judge" version, which as far as I can tell only came with a Bench Seat).
Bench seats were standard in the Tempest trim level and no charge substitutions in the GTOs. Not a common substitution in GTOs, but even rarer in the Judges, but then again most of my observations come from before the internet! @@sewing1243
Yes sir those are "no hopper bars" I bought those for a 69 El Camino way back in the mid seventies (of course also fits Chevelle). Set up with the factory sway bar they are supposed to work well for traction control. Of course I have not used them as with the El Camino one must have the rear end jacked up in order for the tops of the bars to clear the bed floor. I still have them on this car but will be removing them as they are not practical for the El Camino application. This car looks to be in good shape to begin with and it makes a good driver. Some people are not so concerned about being "correct" in every detail striving to be original. But one must be aware if one is going to purchase said vehicle as it of course has been modified to suit the owners taste and that should be stated if the car was ever to be sold. This does appear to be a good build.
It may seem like a minor thing to some people but that nose looks like it was replaced because when Kiwi is under the front and the camera is shooting up from out front you can see what appears to be areas under the "cross bars" where the paint missed. My Poncho never was like that. The original noses were not cheap if you busted them. That's why so many used ones sat on the used car lot with cracks in them. Also I think there is a lower chin or cover piece missing. That used to be one of the first casualties when you pulled up to park "nose-in" to a curb. But on the question of authenticity I would just add that by this year in the "Muscle Car Era" it was getting easier and easier on some cars to just swap a few parts and try to call one thing another thing. I know to many here I'm stating the obvious but you never know when someone who doesn't know might read this and get some benefit from the warning. For the rear being different the engine/trans might be too and the tendency was strong among owners back in those years to just grab a high performance manifold and a 4 barrel and throw it on in place of the 2 barrel when you were just mainly running around on the street. It was a budget/ignorance thing and so the higher compression heads and different cam never made it onto the car many times. Then the car would get sold used and scrapped and the engine gets swapped around and people don't check numbers and they think it's the high performance 350/400 when it's not. The coil springs could also be different. Wish I had my beautiful brown car back again.
Also good from right up close. I guess with the brake and wheel upgrade it would be considered a resto mod more than a true restoration. Perfectly fine for a street driven car. I would much rather be driving a car that is more competent in its basic functions than a car that was "perfect" in its 50+ year old construction. Probably why I drive a cop car. Great all round car and its good to know that the owner actually drives it and enjoys the hell out of it rather that keep it hidden in a heated garage and only takes it out to car shows in a trailer.
Back in the 80’s and 90’s I had several 1970 GTO’s. If I remember correctly, 1966 and later had identifying numbers in the VIN for the GTO (3137?). Those upper control arm mount relocation brackets are aftermarket. Sold as “Hop Stop” mounts. Boxed lower arms and sway bar look correct to me. “Ram Air” terminology is generally reserved for cars the have functional air intakes and matching air filter housing that are open, on this car they are cosmetic but still correct for a base GTO. The funky intake mounting is cool in that it eliminates the rubber hose from the water pomp housing but often results in port mis-match between the heads and manifold. A not insignificant of power can often be gained with a quick port match using thin cardboard to get an impression and grinding the intake ports to match, or better yet the heads if they are coming off. The seats were overstuffed by the upholstery person but I have seen buckets and column shift before. I believe the instrument gauges (not dummy lights) were standard on the GTO but the dash tack was optional as was the hood tach. It looks like the front calipers are on the wrong sides as the bleeders are pointing down. Without the A/C compressor in the way the engine numbers should be easy to read on the front of the block, passengers side. As you would expect, having its original engine would add a lot of value to the car. Very nice example! Thanks for showing it to us! 👍
Thanks for all the info! The calipers are wilwood and have bleed nipples top and bottom so they can be used in the left or right sides. Pretty smart really.
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Yes, I have seen what look like some amazing "looking" cars out there. From down under it is hard to judge. Seen a couple recently but watching your channel, I now know a few wee tricks to use to spot some of the bad ones. Even just looking at some auction photos I have seen cars where the frames are obviously bent because the bumpers are a couple of inches out from one side to the other yet the paint is brand new and of course the underside is thick coated with underseal.
its nice to see...!...that there r some honest people out there..!..?...see if it turns out to be a "real" GTO....let us know Kiwi...!..thank u good video as always...!..
I've seen those [gold] brackets sold before - marketed as some kind of rear suspension improvement - axle wrap or wheel hop... I forget. Never owned a Pontiac or installed one of these, but geometry points to function based on altering instant center..
Mr. Kiwi the part you mentioned attached to the rearend of the GTO is called a no hop bar. "A" body GM cars suppers from wheel hop due to hard acceleration this is common to Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Chevrolet worst on manual trans "4 speed cars". By changing the geometry or the angles of the upper link suspension the issue was corrected. I believe they were made by Lakewood industries and petty common back in the early 70's. I also noticed the GTO had a Chevrolet 12 bolt instead of the Pontiac corporate 10 bolt. Note all modern aftermarket 12 bolt rearend are now casted with the "EARS" or upper mountings higher to eliminate the A body wheel hop.
Those brackets on the dif are to control wheel hop. Put them on a cutlass once. They were not very effective. They control axle wrap but that shouldn't be an issue with coil spring. I didn't know that 30 years ago unfortunately..
I like the upside down valve cover A little time detailing the bottom and in a week of spare time puttering around that car could be really spectacular
Back when Pontiac still lived, they had a service where you could request what your Pontiac car was by sending them your VIN. They would reply with what your car was and the options it was ordered with. I don't know if GM continued that service after my favorite car brand was killed.
