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Yeah! Penn didn't even know that Dan was gossip girl until the last season. I feel like they shouldn't have done the whole "Inside" and "Inside Out" thing because that was just really confusing and they ruined a perfectly good character
It do makes sense. Remember after graduation, Serena texts gossip girl and says she knows who she is and that she wants to meet, and guess who popped up? Dan. But he played it off as if he tracked her location through her phone.
I know, I wish that they'd have let her just be her own person. But NO, much like Robin from "HIMYM", they had to shoehorn in a relationship with the entitled "Nice Guy"! 🙄
Rewatching the show you can see how she was flawed but decent during season 1 but became the most toxic of them all from season 2 onward. At least Blair owned up to her meanness. Serena pulled a Cady Heron and pretended to be nice, while pulling the shadiest of shit behind other people's back.
@123fort andbree Serena quite literally and single handedly destroyed her cousin's reputation because of jealousy after she HERSELF set Charlie up as the new it girl so people wouldn't be pestering her all the time. All the while pretending to be her best friend. Straight up evil. That's just one example from when she was Gossip Girl herself. I never said Blair is a saint, bitch's mean AF, but dismissing Serena's shady shit as just 'dumb and selfish' ain't gonna cut it.
I watched this show from the very beginning knowing that Dan was Gossip Girl because I was spoiled beforehand. And it absolutely made no sense even then. Why would he deliberately sabotage his relationship with Serena, his career, his sister's reputation (even if she did send those texts to Gossip Girl herself)? There was no motivation for him at all to do that.
Tbh writers shouldn’t completely change an ending just because fans theorized it and got it right. They should’ve gone with the original ending, and added to it rather than giving a half baked ending ://
Exactly what George R.R. Martin said. He admitted that fans have theorized things that are going to be revealed in future books, but said he won't change it.
@Madalin Grama First off, that wasn't the end of Season 1. Second, a planned endpoint isn't as important to adhere to as setup established in the middle of the story. If I start at my house and plan to go the mall, but follow directions that takes me to the airport, I can't end up at the mall without it breaking logic. Consider how they've said that they were setting it up to be Eric or Nate. But jumped ship when people guessed those potential reveals. If they wanted Dan to be Gg, they should have continued to establish it. I mean it would have been smart if she just wasn't revealed at all. But whatever this show was never high quality television.
Lol at you guys thinking they actually had a real plan. They CONSIDERED Eric but were making it up as they went along. What the video didn't mention was that Gossip Girl was never meant to be revealed. They felt forced to do it since much of the conversation around the show centered on her identity. It should have been Dorota.
Spotted: Lonely Boy getting trashed by The Take. Will this be a win for the channel or will Brooklyn strike back? I know I wanna know. xoxo, gossip girl.
Tbh Blair's mother, Eleanor showed the most growth emotionally. She was mean and toxic but after re marrying, she really matured as a character. Lily on the other hand got worse and worse
By the end of the show I hated Lily the most, and almost hated Rufus lol Blair and Chuck were essentially the most interesting, even with their own hang-ups. I kept wishing Serena would leave and branch out, but she never could. She always needed a man to keep her occupied from life choices. All in all, a catalyst show and a time of pop culture!
Dan not only anonymously shamed and harassed all of his "friends" and ruined all of his relationships by being gossip girl BUT he also did publicly by writing a book about them. Obsessive much? I can't believe they remained his friends.
Well, considering that his posts came from all the friends themselves (except for Nate), it is not that much of a stretch. Also, they all have done things to ruin normal relationships and still remained friends, because in the end they accept one another for who they are (the ones that are INSIDE :) the world anyways), which was the point.
I never understood why he and Lily broke up. They had their issues but they definitely seemed to be in it for the long haul. I don’t get how Serena’s father was better for her.
@@athousandandonenights11 it's becuase lily cared more about her wealth and status over him, she was too selfish. I shipped them in the beginning but now I'm glad they didn't end up together.
I've always felt that Dan's bitterness towards the rich kids is kind of,,, unwarranted? I mean, he plays the "I'm poor" card SO many times but really he isn't. NYC is a really expensive place to live and he has a really big apartment. His family seems pretty fell off financially and honestly, if they moved out of the city and into a less expensive area, he'd probably be considered the town's elite. He makes himself out to be this broke, barely getting by street urchin when he's upper-middle-class and while, yes it would suck to be surrounded by people as rich and privileged as the people we see in Gossip Girl all the time when you just aren't that status, it's kind of annoying to see a financially well off boy talk about the woes of living in poverty especially when you find out that he's put the people around him that he supposedly cares about through so much hell. He talks about how the wealthy kids do nothing and get everything, but he manipulates, stalks, and systematically destroys the reputations of his sister, girlfriend, and friends and ends up rewarded with a marriage to Serena, so I really don't think he's one to talk. Ok, I'll step off my soapbox now, but it's just bothered me from episode one that the Humphrey's are framed as poor meanwhile you can take one look at their apartment and realize that they're really not.
I think the apartment is more a part of filming. You’ll notice that most “small” apartments in TV aren’t that small, mostly cause they still need an area that can fit a camera crew. Living in NYU is very expensive but Dans never been the poster child for poverty, simply an outsider or even “one of us”. It’s tough for someone like him to make it into the same schools and universities as these other kids. Though Dan is observant and judgemental, I disagree that he overdoes it with acknowledging his friends privileges. They all have never ending chances and it’s fair to bring that to light otherwise they’d never even know what they’ve got.
Pingu Nootson If look back and watch the show you’ll know dan and Jenny father Rufus always referenced about having millions of dollars from royalties from his former band. The first few episodes talk about his successful art gallery and signing a multimillion dollar publishing deal so the real lead character on the show that was actually poor and inner city was Vanessa
Omg I’ve been saying this. He and his sister can afford to go to private school. His dad used to be a musician as well. He’s more of middle class. He’s always complaining to people about how poor he is. He’s so entitled throughout the show😂. He’ll get mad at Other characters for lying and doing bad shit but he’s just like them.
well it does kinda show nicely how far away the 1% really life from the majority and how this kind of riches can never be earned by labour but only by exploiting others.
Sophia Neilsson seeing Gossip Girl and also The O.C., both with Stephanie Savage and Josh Schwartz as screenwriters and producers, it looks like these people don’t have an idea of how the world works, especially from an economic point of view. Especially Gossip Girl is a complete exaggeration. Reading old interviews from Schwartz he clearly stated that, growing up, he was awkward like Set Cohen and “poor” like Dan Humphrey, surrounded by rich kids with huge mansions and swimming pools. So it looks like he created characters based majorly on his experience and biased point of view, which is really far from the truth. If your reed the books of GG, while they might lack the crazy drama of the tv series, they are way more realistic, probably because the author was one of these privileged kids, they should have consulted her more. In addition to your comment, which is totally true, I don’t understand how Rufus isn’t still famous somehow. Because if his band was huge in the 90s, like they say during the show, how is it possible that no one recognises him or when he goes to events with lily, no one tells praises him for his music. It’s like they wanted the Humphrey family to be poor and socially awkward but they gave them a background which isn’t. They should have created the characters waaay better.
Omg this mad me so mad. Like they live in a loft in BROOKLYN. Do you know how much rent alone in Brooklyn is. They got to go to a rich kids school and they pay with it from their own pockets. And I don't remember seeing an episode where they ever struggled to pay any bills. They seem to have a decent amount of clothes. They were middle lower class at best but imo they were certainly not poor. They were just less rich than those upper east siders like you said.
@lockstam they’re only poor in comparison to the main 4. Not everyone at that schools has parents worth hundreds of millions. Dan isn’t even at the bottom of money I’m pretty sure there’s some kids who has scholarships to go to the school.
1%ers vs 0.01%ers 😒 poverty is relative of course. Even if you’re a multi millionaire, being around the billionaire class will be a culture shock for you. But Dan would push it when he would talk about how ‘poor’ he was when he was already from a family wealthier than 90% of society. Nate’s grandfather said something about their ancestors starting with nothing, to which Dan replies : “FINALLY SOMETHING I CAN RELATE TO” Umm 🧐 you don’t come from nothing, Dan, you come from a rockstar and artist parents, you grew up in a multi-million dollar loft in Brooklyn (and theyre OWNers not renters).
I agree, I never thought finding out who Gossip Girl is was important. It wasn't the central plot device of the show like it was for Pretty Little Liars. Viewers cared more about what happened to the characters. I remember thinking 'oh that's still a thing?' when I read before the finale that they were going to reveal who GG was
The whole show managed to completely villainize poor people. Basically all of the not so rich characters ended up being the bad guys (Dan, Jenny, Vanessa. Ivy) while the rich people were flawed but admirable.I think that is it´s biggest flaw.
I wish Jenny had a redemption arc she wasn’t a bad person she just had a lot thrown at her too young. It would’ve been cool to see her start from the bottom after practically being disowned and struggle to the top of the fashion industry and to see the contrast compared to Blair who has been handed a fashion company over to her. It would be a fun storyline to play with and it would be nice to see her get a win without the help of Nate.
I agree I hated how the show handles the topics of classism as well as the minority and LGBTQ characters was treated. Vanessa was the only real nonwhite lower class main character and they treated her so terribly when in the book series she’s the best and most complex character
I loved all those ppl besides Vanessa Bc that bitch is just annoying lol. I think it shows that no matter how hard the “poor” people try to act like them they will never be them. Their rich privilege allows them to act like that so when poor people do it they’re just villains. That’s what I got from it
Dan isn’t gossip girl. Everyone was gossip girl. Dan just created the website and probably programed the settings to automatically publish whatever tip was sent. That’s why he was genuinely surprised with some of the posts. At some point he got more picky with what he allowed to automatically post and yes grew bitter but everyone was gossip girl. They all did horrible things to each other.
I was thinking kind of the same. Maybe would work better if he just create the site, but eventually he befriend with this people and decide shut down but somehow gossip girl end in differents hands. So he can be the creator but gossip girl are different people in the whole show.
Kelly Pinzon Frias exactly that would have been great. Like every season it was a different gossip girl. That would account for everyone getting screwed over. Then we coulda had Dorota, Eric etc.
Mia P nobody is worse than an attempted rapist or someone who pimps out his girlfriend and we all know Dan was made GG for shock value but even so let’s face it everyone contributed to the popularity of Gossip Girl all they had to do was stop sending blasts and that would have led to it’s demise but no they all loved the power it gave them over people especially Blair so to me all of the being upset at Dan is hypocritical
GAGAGAGAGAGAGA I just saw something very unpretty! I looked in the mirror! GAGAGAGAGAGAGA!! But I am the cool RU-vidr with two hazardously hot girlfriends so IT is all good! Thanks for you attention dear thab
Dan was so bitter about never fitting into the 'inner circle' or whatever, but he never really made the effort. He constantly mocked and insulted those that belonged to it, and acted superior. I know he wasn't as privileged as the other kids but he and his sister went to the same school as them, there were far worse situations he could have been in
ryn but chuck thinks he’s superior to others because he is a rich man in a capitalist society so his perception of reality is accurate (not that I think rich people are superior but that’s how capitalism views it) Dan thinks he is morally superior because he is less privileged which is complete nonsense. You can be a good or a bad Person regardless of your wealth, even though it’s easier to bee a good person when you have enough money and you’ll never be tempted to compromise your morals to put food on the table. And he also annoys me because he always cries about how unfair life is for him and fails to realize that he is a white man, conventionally attractive and intelligent and had access to an elite school etc. so he is basically mad that other people can afford Gucci and he has to wear Abercrombie. He is still part of the top 5% of privileged people in the world but he’s mad at the 1% while not ever having any concerns for the lower 95%. Plus his father is caring and nice while the other characters struggle so much with neglectful parents but he somehow manages to see himself as the biggest victim.
@@katybee3891 Thank god someone finally said it. Dan is literally the most privileged, whiniest character ever. He whines so much about being disadvantaged you'd literally think he was Rosa Parks or something. He's the worst.
Still can’t believe they romanticized an abusive relationship, Chuck and Blair was at times cute but showed a lot of domestic violence and manipulation. Which too many little girls think are normal or even romantic. The writers just ruined their relationship, they could have matured and had a healthier relationship.
I would say none of the relationships in the show was good or healthy. As a teen I liked most but as an adult these relationships were not ideal as I thought.
Ladybird exactly... at times the best moments are the friendship between Serena/Nate, Dan/Vanessa, Chuck and Blair have good moments when they don’t hate each other (though they’re arguably the most toxic example) Lily and Rufus too. Otherwise it’s just really toxic
The writers were going in the right direction, only to screw everything up in the end. Chuck and Blair grew as the show went on. When Chuck was with Eva he was a cool guy and when Blair was with Dan she was much more confident. Both Chuck and Blair realized their relationship was toxic and that they brought out the worst in each other. But despite that, the writers had the two of them regress and just go back to each other, for the sake of fanservice.
I just love that Penn Badgley haaaated the ending and said it doesn’t make any sense at all but if it HAD TO be one of the main cast it would be him... It was so forced that Dan Ended up with Serena. He was SO in love with Blair even in season 6. And then BOOM suddenly - fan service - he was back with Serena. Whaaaaat.
The Serena and Dan relationship kind of reminds me of Carrie's and Mr. Big from Sex and the city. Carrie and Dan want to be with people that represent success, money, and the upper echelon of New York society while also publicly announcing intimate details of their personal relationship for the masses to read. They put Big and Serena on these pedestals that are impossible to live up to. Dan knows that Serena comes from a world of privilege, Carrie knows that Big doesn't want to get married, and yet Dan and Carrie are shocked when they are confronted by these truths over and over again.
Agreed... no one really loved Serena, I never got that vibe from anyone, even Nate. I wish she’d found love with someone who didn’t keep her up on a pedestal.
Jodi boynes Dan and Blair definitely had more chemistry. I hate how much I loved them together considering how horribly she treated him through the rest of the show hahaha
@@masumamiah101 Yeah because Blair chose Chuck (eye roll). I hated how in season 6 they forgot that Blair and Dan were friends before they started dating. Obviously, he settled for Serena. Like, if he can't be with Blair he might as well be with the golden girl. Dan never loved Serena- he loved the idea of her. At the beginning of the show, he sees it but ignores it because she's gorgeous. They don't have anything in common, she's flaky and doesn't respect his time. I think in season 4, at the end and especially season 5 when he's in love with Blair, Dan finally lets go of the idea of Serena and sees her for who she is. I never bought their reunion and his sweet words in season 6.
Keyser94 the characters are bad people but are also bad characters because of the writers. Season 1 got me interested in the show but then I quickly got turn off by the characters not changing after significant moments. Serena stayed jealous and self centered, Dan stayed jealous and pessimistic, and Nate stayed humble yet defaultly reserved. Jenny went off the rails way too quick. And Chuck and Blair kept forgetting the lessons they learned more times that I can count. There should always be consequences and those consequences should make the show more interesting. But the writers became too scared of their audience to change anything rather than actually write a good plot. The Dan reveal was desperate at best and the chair and derena endgame relationships were childish, nothing new or thematic.
Angel Antayhua exactly they didn’t develop the story or take us through a journey at all you can watch the first and last episode without having to watch anything in between that’s when you know the writing is bad the best stories are the ones that take us on a character’s journey this was just a never ending circle
It COULD have been good writing ✍️ I like the idea of somebody who outwardly rejects and judges them, someone who pretends not to care, being the biggest most shamelessly desperate social-climbing wannabe of them all.
Gossip Girl made the same mistake as Pretty Little Liars in that they went for shock, awe and spectacle over logic and substance, a real rookie mistake in writing. Good writing understands that you can't just have something happen because you want it to, you have to tell a story that supports the action or event. With Gossip Girl and PLL it didn't matter who was behind the final mask as much as the why, would it make sense given everything we've seen thus far. For both shows you need someone connected to the plot and main characters but not integrated in it so that their actions are often unaccounted for but the viewer wouldn't question it at the time. Given the length of each show you also need that person to have been around since the beginning. It's important that the final reveal sort of brings you full circle, is grounded in the show we've seen thus far so that viewers feel satisfied and are able to put the pieces together. PLL got it right when they did the Mona reveal and again when they did the Ezra reveal, but both shows dropped the ball with their final reveal leaving viewers feeling like they watched an entirely different show. Lucas would've made the perfect Uber A and Eric would've been a great Gossip Girl because they both check all those boxes rather nicely. Gossip Girl messed up because while they could've made Dan work (it would've been a major stretch) they weren't willing to make him a bad guy to do it. They weren't willing to sacrifice his happy ending and as a result the story suffered.
exactly! mona and ezra actually had you gasping. it gave a reason for it and had you putting plot points of reference together in your head. they should have topped the series off with Aria as A with a storyline to back it up. Charlotte was alright but it was super far fetched. Dan made perfect sense as Gossip Girl they just didn’t make it even remotely believable. they didn’t tie up plot holes or give him a realistic reaction and dramatic reveal. it was anticlimactic to say the least.
it would have been better if Gossip Girl was never revealed. the constant alias was meant to show how anyone, even a supposedly anonymous stranger, could control & dictate lives with the internet's stalkerish prescence. it's universal message would be more symbolic if her identity was left unanswered, instead of needlessly throwing Dan under the bus.
ripstiker licker This show should’ve sent the message that everyone was gossip girl.. all you have to do is send him a blast and he just uploaded it and added a spin on the posts. Nobody held them accountable for sending the gossip in the first place.
They should have never revealed who gossip girl was, it adds to the mystery and means that everyone can have their own theory about who it was, it could even change every time you rewatch it, so much more fun that way!
They could have at least mentioned that Jenny would also write some of the blasts so that it explains why Dan would act all surprised in the presence of no one like whose he acting for?
Could y’all do an analysis on Chuck and Blairs relationship? Some people love it because they grow and mature together, while others think its toxic and even abusive at times. It’s a pretty controversial relationship and an in depth take on it would be pretty interesting.
Blair and Chuck are interesting charachters on their own.....while Blair is entertaining throughout with her dialogues.....Chuck seems to have a more attractive and seductive approach.....in the start Chuck was a little rogue tho....while Blair is more or less the same throughout though she does grow to mature a little and cool down her mean thoughts
personally I think they are only entertaining when they are in the show but in reality that kind of relationship is not something you would like to have. Remember that time when Chuck chose the hotel over Blair and that one time Blair ruined Chuck relationship with the sweet french girl from a farm's, that didn't make sense to me lol Chuck was getting better without Blair then suddenly the writers made them split up for shallow reasons then Chuck and Blair started making out with one another when Blair is in college.
@@karlamicahyalung4461 Right. And also remember in the last season where Chuck was making excuses not to be with Blair because it made him "weak". Like there was this scene in the first or 2nd episode of S6 where Dan would telling Blair the truth about her and Chuck relationship basically stating how she has to wait for Chuck for be ready for her. Imo that's not love. My problem wasn't that the show used broadcasted this type of relationship. My problem is that they ROMANTICIZED it and called it "love" to a young audience of young and impressionable teenage girls. Now GG was before my time (I'm currently a teen now tho) so I just finshed watching the show and I'm so glad I never went through a toxic guy phase but do you know how easy it is to think this stuff us cute because a show told you to. It's disgusting stuff like this should NOT be romanticized. 🤮
@@squidwardtentacles7144same gurl gossip girl was before my time still a teenag as well I feel like in the past when GG was popular is when toxic relationships started to be romanticize it's a crazy world out there.
Okay everyone freaks out about Dan being gossip girl but the most weird thing was Lily not ending up with Rufus. All 6 seasons they told us lily was crazy in love with Rufus he was the love of her life and then at last minute Serena’s father who we never saw before appeared all of a sudden and now He says he always loved Lily and becomes her love interest WTF..
Especially the after the way Serena's dad weaseled his way back in, but i think the point was the Dan's dad always deserved better and as long as Lily was attached to him she would always drag him down. I mean she stuck by Chunks dad knowing he kill people and was okay with it.
@@lstarsabb well when Chuck’s dad came back he faked being different, he faked changing we all thought he loved Lily and wanted her back genuinely. He signed the divorce papers she wanted him to sign and then she changed her mind. It’s another thing which bothered me, it would have been more interesting if Chuck’s father really changed into a better man and we had a good love triangle there and Lily choosing Bart. But I think the producers thought it would be too much if both bass men had a makeover. It’s like maybe the producers of the show felt okay it’s too many bad guys turned good let’s keep the dad evil
I know but I can understand why they didn’t get back together after everything that happened. Lily loved Rufus but she didn’t respect Rufus as her equal. She wore the pants in the relationship, one of the most disrespectful thing she says to him that proves her lack of respect, she say : “where will you find another wealthy woman to take care of you”. She loved wealth more than Rufus.
laisha I feel like it would be kinda interesting like someone who Blair always thought of as being beneath her was actually pulling the strings all along
I dislike the final season because it’s obvious they made Dan act they way he did in season 6 and made him GG to make Chuck look like the better option for Blair which even if I somehow believed that Dan was GG which I don’t especially since the writers even admitted that they made Dan GG at the last minute which just goes to show how bad they were at their job they knew that Dan was the better man for Blair so they had to basically ruin his character to make chuck look good. Dan treated her like she always wanted like her own person with him she matured and evolved and as soon as she got back with chuck she reverted into that petty self centered girl worse than she was in season one I really couldn’t stand her in the final season. Chuck cheated on her in season two when Jack comes in and tricks Blair into making a party with the bass industry investors he takes chuck to party and hook up with girls to which chuck happily does even though he knew damm well he was with Blair. He was always looking for excuses to ruin their relationship when they were together and then when she was happy with someone else he would ruin it. Dan loved Blair since season four but yet he was still their for her as a friend in her relationship problems unlike chuck who would get possessive over her with other guys. Yes Dan made a mistake sleeping with Serena but let’s not forget Serena’s hand in making that happen she went to him when he was heartbroken over Blair not meeting him and seduced him.Chuck would always go sleep with other women the minute things went wrong with Blair so he was far from her ideal match
I am just glad that GG ended when it did, the last 2 seasons were just so much ado about nothing and it all basically came down to when is Chair getting together again. I really hoped that they would never reveal who GG was because nobody actually fit the profile - although I suspected someone from Blair’s early minions like Penelope or Kati & Izi. My money was on Penelope whose way of speaking kinda gave the same vibes as the texts from GG. The fact that Serena married Dan in the end was such a LOL moment yet totally in character for her since she never really had to think anything through. But I agree with Stephanie’s approach to making the show seem like a magazine since for me it did just that - it influenced my music choices and sense of fashion, and made me dream of visiting NY and only seeing the glamorous side of it like in the show. But I have a question for the ladies of this channel, would you consider doing character profile for GG like you did with Friends and How I Met Your Mother?
You're right, from an outside perspective the Humphrey family is doing quite well financially speaking. But compared to the Waldorfs or the Archibalds or the Basses or the Van der Woodsens, they're basically broke.
So, in a show based off of a series of novels, Penn Badgley plays a seemingly "NICE GUY" based in New York City who uses underhanded tactics to woo the pretty blonde girl over... What do you mean, "You", we're clearly talking about "Gossip Girl" here! 😂😉
They were all superficial though and Blair was such a hypocrite complaining about GG when she was obsessed with it and used it all the time for her schemes more so than the rest of them combined
Melissa Perez sure Blair was resourceful hehe, she never made it a secret that superficial things like popularity were important to her, but Serena irritates me cuz she tries to pretend like she’s above all that stuff even though she secretly cares just as much
Yolo Swaggins i mean yeah Serena wasn’t great but she was never as manipulating as Blair was and i love Blair but a lot of times she crossed the line i do genuinely believe Serena at least wanted to leave HS and GG behind but never did
I think the reason why they were okay with it was because he simply played their game and he played it better so they could finally see him as equal and blair was mad coz she found out that he had the upper hand and always did and honestly her character was just annoying she thought of herself as the center of the world and set out to distroy anything and everyone that stands in her way, the way she treated dan was horrible he was always by her side when she needed him and she never actually considered him anyyhing more than her minions till the very last minute when it was revealed that he was always better than her Nate was probably the only decent person in the whole show aside from the cheating he was the elite but he never let it get to him unlike others like vanessa and Jenny and evwryone that was introduced to their world
YEEEEEES!!!! or at least they should've hinted that it was someone that idolized the group but didn't personally know any of them. that would make much more sense in the gg universe and in real life.
Dan deserved a better ending! The writers had no clue how to end the series and it was rushed and it showed. I feel like after season 2 people didn’t even really “care” who gossip girl was because the storyline was removed after high school. * everyone * was gossip girl cause everyone sent in messages about each other - expect Nate. (Who didn’t send in texts from memory?)
They're probably the only couple who even make some sense imo. I actually really enjoyed their interactions in s4 and was rooting for them to end up together
I dont agree with Lily and Rufus. They were not good to each other! But Dan and Blair was great ! I HATE that they only got two seconds Together!!!!!! She even said to him that chuck didnt have her heart anymore. Its WRONG that they were only together that shortly
Never made sense to me, and the more I rewatch the series the less it makes any sense. IMO the writers had no plans for GG identity or they did and it leaked so they pulled this out of their asses
5:35 this happens when Georgina has taken over gossip girl, so he wanted to find out who hacked into the site. Also, I think that, regarding the argument that he did a lot of stuff as gossip girl that affected his own relationships, he had to do that in order to stay imparcial and avoid any suspicion of who GG truly is. Most of the examples were tips sent by other people, and if GG hadn't posted them, it would have been obvious who was behind the site. However, I do agree that his shocked reactions while being alone are big plot holes.
Dan never respected Serena, he wanted her to change since they met and he hasn't changed that. Serena should be with Nate. They both loved each other and their chemistry on the screen was so much better. The whole Blair Chuck not being able to be together - far fetched and ridiculous. Rufus and Ivy - No comment.
I agree. Nate was so much better for Serena. I wrote a fanfic where Nate/Serena, Chuck/Blair and Dan/Vanessa are married with kids and the fic mainly details the lives of their kids.
@@randomchaos400 No. They were happy together until they had disagreements about Rufus and Serena's dad. Nate even handled Serena's drama better than Dan and patiently waited for her even if he thought she left town with Carter. Serena didn't open up to Nate about her issues because she thought Nate would be judgmental due to what she faced with Dan. But Nate did understand and didn't judge her.
Like Ryan and Marissa from the OC!! The trope is very interesting. For some reason the poor person always has the moral high ground over their rich rival.
@@lh9591 yeah, somehow rich people can be good and poor people are always good. I mean no offense I'm poor myself but not exactly an angel and know other people that are way way worse, it would be nice to see some variaty
". For some reason the poor person always has the moral high ground over their rich rival." I can think of a couple of exceptions, but they are few: In "You", Joe Goldberg (the "poor" suitor) instead of being a good person is a crazy stalker. In Bojack Horseman, Beatrice's wealthy suitor turned out to be a good guy, while the poor one turned out to be an asshole. In Beauty and Beast, Gaston (The poor) is evil, while the beast (The rich) is an asshole with but heart,.
Tessa Jones yep! I just watched “The Vow” and it’s the same deal there. Even in non romantic settings the rich are often painted as default villains, like in Harry Potter, the poor Weasleys and rich Malfoys.
Watching this made me reflect on the essay they did on the nice guy troupe. Dan is yhe embodiment of that idea. With the way they ended it, he's literally the worse character and that's including Georgina on the stance that she has always been honest about who she was where dan pretended and he couldn't keep up the facade over time a long period of time.
I hated dan, he was way to judgmental and had a mager superiority issues, was extremely possessive and very entitled. like hear me out when he joined the upper life style with ruffs and Lillys marriage he askes Lilly for an internship and hates blair for having gotten it even tho she got it on her own and worked hard for it when dan didn't, he also abused his relationships for his own gains, at least the upper elite had each others backs. not to mention he destroyed or helped destroy Blairs marriage to Louis creating real dangerous repacutuons like bankrupting her fam and forcing her into a horrid marriage. I think serena and Nate were better fit.
I started watching Gossip Girl for the first time about two years ago, with absolutely no frame of reference to what the show was about besides that this girl that I wanted to be friends with was into it. By the third episode I made the joke, "God, it would be terrible if Dan was Gossip Girl," because they spent so much time emphasizing both his distaste for the social hierarchy of Manhattan and his desired career as a writer. When I got to the ending of the series, I laughed so hard that I choked on my popcorn. I will NEVER understand the decision to not only make Dan Gossip Girl (when Eric did make more sense), but to actually reveal who Gossip Girl had been in the first place. It would have been an ending that left viewers vastly more connected to that series - always wondering who was the one that kept their eye on the group, obsessing over their drama like the audience had been, as if to suggest that the audience was Gossip Girl themselves.
Let's start the controversy, I think Blair and Dan should have been endgame. They were both smart, motivated, fell in love with each other not with a fantasy and made each other better
Exactly. They had an actual healthy relationship and made each other better people. I guess, the Chair fangirls/boys were so pissed off that the showrunners decided that they better reignite their toxic relationship. 🙄
Right hear me out, the Dan that was created as a disguise to hide his actual self would've been perfect for Blair because he made her a better person and they were overall happier however in reality that dan doesn't exist. The entire time Dan was pretending to be this nice, amazing and supportive guy when in reality he was so toxic and possessive and twisted; like his idea of love is shaming his dream girl, spreading rumours about her and making her feel bad about being born into her world. Whilst with Chuck however toxic his and Blair's relationship was he never really hid himself like he never deceived anyone about who he was unlike dan who pretended to be so high and mighty. Now I'm not saying who was best for her because in reality neither of them were good guys. I feel like Blair should've ended up alone like not forever but you know she's an ambitious girl she probably would've become really successful. I feel like the reason Blair ended up with Chuck was because of how much history they have and also the complexity of their relationship. Right from the beginning Chuck was Blair's epic love despite of all the stuff he did whilst even though Dan was portrayed as a good guy during their relationship Blair never loved him like that I mean she never said it, like you can't force feelings you know so to conclude this rant Blair and Dan were the ideal couple but Blair and Chuck were the real couple.
the gossip girl characters rarely face any consequences, but nate in season 1 definitely did with his family, and blair also is held accountable for her actions more than say, serena.
they really should have had gossip girl be eric in the first few seasons and then have dan take over in later seasons. that would make more sense for his character
I feel ashamed, that I wanted them to be endgame. First off, because he already is judgemental, manipulating, whiny, emotionally abusive and doesn't want the real Serena, but a version of her - even without being Gossip Girl. But well, it only occurred to me later. I was young. But him being Gossip Girl makes him such an abusive creep and kind of a criminal. They could have ended it with him coming out, but they all filing a restraining order against him. He would be in, but at the price he obviously was willing to pay in the first place. They should not have rewarded him. And I would have liked for Serena to stand up for herself for once. Getting over her needy daddy issue enduced liferaft condition and setting a much better image as a woman for all the girls watching. Being by herself for once would have done her good. And they still could have made her marry a guy, that was actually decent to her, like Nate or Carter or I don't know. Not Joe Goldberg though. Also, it sends the message, that you should change yourself to be accepted and loved, which is never a good message. I don't know. He's just a creep. Trust will be always better than manipulation in my book. No matter, where someone comes from. But what do I expect from a show, that makes a sexual assault predator a central love interest.
I legit hated the way at the end that people acted like blair being pissed was only because of the fact that she wasn't in charg3. But people like forgetting that gossip girl is the reason chuck and Blair got Into their car crash and she lost her baby and chuck nearly died and the reason that she went back to Louis and his demented mother for a year is because of that. Dan acted like he was innocent and apologising is the only thing he had to do but he fucked up blair and chuck so badly
Pleaseeee do one on Bass and Blair because they were the most toxic two ppl but ppl love them together. How on earth they end up with as a have a family is such wish fulfilment and fan service because their dynamic wouldn't even allow them to last for that long because of their tit for tat thing they had. They wouldn't be functioning happily with kids and a happy marriage because they never viewed each other as equals but also one trying to up the other
you do know that people change right? it's like saying that two people who grew up in a horrible environment such as chuck with his scaly father cannot grow up and have a beautiful healthy family ?!?!?!? PEOPLE CAN CHANGE
Imo they both are terrible in their own way, they maybe tried to be better with others partners but this isn't who they really are deep down so they came back with the old bad habits, yes, their relationship wasn't ideal or a role model for anybody but in the end this is just a fiction, it's not really a big deal, i don't take them like an example about what a couple should be in real life. Their relationship work in GG universe because everything was acceptable and fashionable in GG. If people were watching GG looking for moral compass or something more close with a real life experience imo they were watching the wrong TV show. OTH was another CW TV show that a least tried to be more real about the teenager life.
One of my best friends just loves Gossip Girl. When we began hanging out, she talked about it all the time, so I had to watch it for myself. All I knew was that I was supposed to hate Dan, because she kept talking about how awful he is - she was so very right.
I really do like that Dan was gossip girl. His arc would have been amazing if the show had been consistent from the start. To make an arc for a character who started ''poor'' and saw that the only way to become a part of a certain world would be to stoop to their level. Make it more like ''nothing really matters'' type of show. Like, in that world, once you belong, all your past sins were forgotten BECAUSE you belong, would have been a great and dark understanding of the show, that would have been an amazing conclusion to get people to reach. Because let's face it, they all have done terrible things (that real people would have gone to jail for and would have ruined relationships, people, families etc). And they forgive each other because (besides the people in their world) who else are going to accept them for who they are.
I would've much preferred having a less important character like Eric be GG, which would then make the whole "who is GG" plot more of a side storyline rather than a main one. The other storylines in the series were MUCH more interesting on it's own, and it's sort of ruined by having a main character like Dan being revealed as GG.