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GR86 Fake Engine Sound On/Off Comparison 

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I made a toggle switch to turn on/off the fake engine sound (ASC=active sound control) on the fly. Check out their differences in this clip. The test is done in Track mode. I actually liked the fake engine sound better. Which one do you prefer?

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@rhodycars6058
@rhodycars6058 Год назад
By far the best video showing the differences. Great work bro!
@martinwtaylor
@martinwtaylor Год назад
Sounds better natural. Having just changed the exhaust on my BRZ to a quieter one, I now appreciate the smooth mechanical noise my engine makes without all that noisy roar getting in the way.
@Heinousness
@Heinousness Год назад
You went from stock to an even quieter exhaust? Do you live in a senior community or what?
@martinwtaylor
@martinwtaylor Год назад
@@Heinousness I commute 80 miles a day. A loud exhaust soon gets on your wick, believe me. I love that I can hear the engine.
@Teefs143
@Teefs143 Год назад
What exhaust did you put?
@martinwtaylor
@martinwtaylor Год назад
@@Teefs143 I wanted to retain good flow for the supercharger but get the noise down, so I had a Hayward & Scott stainless steel bespoke exhaust made with large silencer and twin Helmholtz resonators. It flows so well my power was slightly increased, too.
@Teefs143
@Teefs143 Год назад
@@martinwtaylor interesting, you're BRZ is 2022 with 2.4L right? Never seen it with supercharger. How much hp it got?
@aaromon43
@aaromon43 Год назад
all fake engine noise should be a button you can toggle just like that! maddening it's not setup that way from the factory.
@joesmothers
@joesmothers Год назад
Excellent job on this demo! My preference is all natural. You want more volume, maybe an exhaust or intake to achieve that.
@ladin425
@ladin425 Год назад
I wouldn't want to be driving around hearing that noise, but if I was on a track, hearing your engine can be helpful for gear changes without looking at the tach so I think it would be a good idea to have it on.
@VectorAero
@VectorAero Год назад
Same how i felt about the induction sound tube in the first gen. Annoying on the street, but useful at the track.
@eudaimonia77
@eudaimonia77 11 месяцев назад
Best video comparison I've seen - thank you!!! For what it's worth, I think we ALL want more sound at SOME points while driving. The ASC is no different than adding an aftermarket or GR Perf exhaust, but has the upshot of being able to be turned on/off or be louder in track mode than regular driving, and not attracting unwanted attention/waking the neighbors. That's why I'll probably leave mine on and not spend the money on an exhaust. People who don't like the particular sound of the ASC are fine to say so, but they could just as easily be dissatisfied with a particular aftermarket exhaust. There's no guarantee that any sound will please all. Regardless, I do think Toyota should make it a toggle switch like yours so no one needs to fuss either way :). Keep it up!
@Mike-Brewer
@Mike-Brewer Год назад
Wow I had no idea it was actually so prominent. I wondered why these sounded so different on video than my old zn6 BRZ. Great job on the video man.
@furyln5671
@furyln5671 Год назад
This is dope dude. I’d love to learn more about how you did this. I saw some of the other DIY things you’ve done on the GR86 as well.
@Kev_N_1976
@Kev_N_1976 2 месяца назад
Thanks for this. This is the first video where I can actually hear a difference. I like it better with ASC off. Thanks!!!
@alabdel1388
@alabdel1388 Год назад
Do you have a vid showing how you set that toggle up? That's awesome.
@tpersoage
@tpersoage Год назад
And this is how a comparison video is done.
@s0ccer96
@s0ccer96 7 месяцев назад
Perfect comparison video thank you! I actually think it’s neat that the car has that “fake” noise added, idk. I appreciate the little things that add for a nice rewarding experience I guess.
@xecmai8100
@xecmai8100 Год назад
GREAT demonstration. This will help new enthusiasts understand why the sound is disliked over the natural engine sounds, even if on the quieter side. However, it would be fun to see what savvy techs can do with the speaker and modifications. There are a lot of quirky things you can do with it.. say for example swapping it for a Pac Man wakka wakka sound.
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
yeh, something like simulating F1 car downshift noise would be cool
@Briguy288
@Briguy288 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild is it actually possible to upload your own engine sound?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
@@Briguy288 probably not but you can create your own ASC unit to play whatever based on the car input signals (throttle, brake, and etc)
@ftr911drvr
@ftr911drvr Год назад
It's a great video, but its disliked because that's the popular thing to say...its a social media cliche honestly. For NEW enthusiasts leaving it on so they can hear the engine better makes more sense, because regardless most people are supplementing the lack of ASC with a louder exhaust so they can hear it inside. For someone not doing that just leave it....
@pkpotate
@pkpotate Год назад
​@ftr911drvr not entirely true, I disliked mine because I could sense the lag of the timing for the fake noise and it would throw my shifts off. I turned it off and put a louder exhaust on and now I don't mess up shifts like I used to
@hoopofficial4371
@hoopofficial4371 Год назад
Best comparison yet. Really appreciate it. Having dealer turn mine off at delivery now! 🤘🏻
@bttawfiq
@bttawfiq 10 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for this video, I'm looking to get a compact fun car for my daily commute, problem is 80% of it is freeway driving, which is why i had doubts about the GR86 as it doesn't have proper sound insulation, but with the ASC disabled it's quiet enough for me (I'm coming from Mustangs and an SRT Jeep)
@QARGEL
@QARGEL 11 месяцев назад
Loved it! Can you please give us a manual on you built in the switch?
@JasonYergin
@JasonYergin Год назад
This is legit. Thanks for sharing!!
@Yavorh55
@Yavorh55 9 месяцев назад
As a fan of quieter in-cabin sound, I am most likely going to turn it off - despite liking how it sounds in general, the comfort and being able to hear music without increasing the volume too much is a good benefit
@revmatchtv
@revmatchtv Год назад
Nice work on this! I might do the same.
@robertchu7165
@robertchu7165 Год назад
Thanks for video comparison!
@emilk1774
@emilk1774 Год назад
With the sound on is how my celica 3sge sounds 😍
@micho_3715
@micho_3715 Год назад
Yooo this is sick. At first I thought this might be an auto feature but was proven wrong the second you shifted. How did you manage to do this? Did you splice a switch into the ASC module power/ground circuit or something?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
yes, like you said exactly
@chipskylark5188
@chipskylark5188 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild Please do a how to video
@TUGRA14
@TUGRA14 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild Could you please make a video on how to do it? I need to do this on my brz! :)
@cc90071
@cc90071 Год назад
Nice demo
@brucewayne5471
@brucewayne5471 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!!!
@shaneh734
@shaneh734 Год назад
Awesome!!
@xYoshiLP.
@xYoshiLP. Месяц назад
test drove one today (might get one soon) and until 4-5k revs i think you don't really notice the fake sound tho if i get one i'd love to turn it off too
@Cubcadet31
@Cubcadet31 Год назад
THANK YOUUUUU
@JohnnyBalazo
@JohnnyBalazo Год назад
ACS sounds good.
@Morf818
@Morf818 2 месяца назад
i wish every car came with an on and off button
@Gurka84
@Gurka84 Месяц назад
Wish we could have this toggle from factory. That way I would disable this horrible fake sound for everything other than track driving. That’s the only place where it’s useful.
@Andrew-zs5tc
@Andrew-zs5tc Год назад
I wish the road noise was fake and could be turned off. I think they only put in the fake engine sounds ti minimize the road noise.
@jbrockskill
@jbrockskill Год назад
Absolutely hate the fake noise.
@louis-geoffroydesmarais9834
@louis-geoffroydesmarais9834 2 месяца назад
Did you use the red 12v wire or the brown ignition signal ?
@louis-geoffroydesmarais9834
@louis-geoffroydesmarais9834 2 месяца назад
Update: the red wire did NOT work, but the brown (ignition) did !
@itsthemetho
@itsthemetho Год назад
I think ASC sounds okay, but the volume is too high. It wouldn't be something that I could deal on at that volume.
@TrailorSailYT
@TrailorSailYT Год назад
This is my problem too. I disabled it because it was too loud and obtrusive. However, if I could modulate it to 50% or "Off" as needed like some Lexus models, I wouldn't have messed with disabling it completely.
@jamieh4x4
@jamieh4x4 Год назад
If you take it out of track mode, is ASC off totally or just quieter?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
in normal mode, ASC is just quieter
@Myotis05
@Myotis05 10 месяцев назад
Can you tell us exactly which wire you switched? Looks like there are multiple wires in that ASC harness.
@eliminat
@eliminat 3 месяца назад
Man why couldn't they have done that from the start? You want to peacefully cruise, turn off the extra noise, you want to hear your engine louder for some reason turn it on, everyone's happy.
@ftr911drvr
@ftr911drvr Год назад
It's a great video, but its disliked because that's the popular thing to say...its a social media cliche honestly. It's like all the popular RU-vid videos saying only buy Manual cars but they drive autos .... For NEW enthusiasts leaving it on so they can hear the engine better makes more sense, because regardless most people are supplementing the lack of ASC with a louder exhaust so they can hear it inside. For someone not doing that just leave it....
@DMNTails
@DMNTails Год назад
I was wondering what asc was, I have an option to turn it off in the 2023 Brz, going to be shutting it off for sure now
@renatotoze
@renatotoze Год назад
deffo sounds best without it on
@danielmorris5470
@danielmorris5470 Год назад
Sounds kinda good lol
@berserkerkev_666
@berserkerkev_666 Месяц назад
Ngl instead of switching it, I'd straight up unplug it from the ECM and that's it
@huangcy6400
@huangcy6400 Год назад
Do you set up the switch by yourself? Or it has some default setting to change it?
@Islow86.
@Islow86. Год назад
How did you add the on/pff switch?
@andyhung424able
@andyhung424able Год назад
I’m new to Subaru engine so I wasn’t familiar with the noise from the flat 4 engines. But boy, the FA24 sounds so rough all the time. It sounds like something is loose at idle with some clicking noise. And at lower rpm in 1st or 2nd gear while acceleration it sounds like something is rattling from the engine bay. There is another sort of vibrating type noise at full throttle at higher rpm. Basically it always sounds broken to me in the GR86. With the stories out there about blown engines, I’m very nervous half the time driving the GR86.
@philippe5249
@philippe5249 Год назад
Sounds like the gt86 without fake noises
@ditermejia6027
@ditermejia6027 Год назад
I might be the only one that doesn’t mind the sound haha
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
i don't mind ASC also lol it's honestly not loud to the annoying level
@TrailorSailYT
@TrailorSailYT Год назад
I am super curious about your ASC toggle switch... Did you just tap this in-line with the harness on the passenger side?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
yes exactly:)
@TrailorSailYT
@TrailorSailYT Год назад
@@TrackandBuild Thanks! That gives me some good ideas (or bad ideas if you ask my wife).
@phillipmoon3369
@phillipmoon3369 Год назад
Would you consider posting a DIY video with the details. ASC switch is an excellent idea and should be a good video.
@milesmerwin1394
@milesmerwin1394 Год назад
What was your process for this? Did you add a switch to the harness? Or is this done through ECU control? Or something else?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
Yes it's just a switch to the wire
@ravenheart369
@ravenheart369 Год назад
It becomes a very good daily driver without that ridiculous ASC
@DarkSphinxx
@DarkSphinxx Год назад
fake engine noise sounds good
@Марина-ц5с6к
@Марина-ц5с6к 6 месяцев назад
Is it stock on/off button or you did it from yourself?
@dutchberry
@dutchberry 6 месяцев назад
I have a 17 brz and deleted sound generator with Mishimoto. For the last generation, we had to buy hose. No switch on/off
@kneevie
@kneevie 4 месяца назад
I kinda feel weird that I seem like the only person who doesn't really mind the fake sound on mine😬lol
@ancient_oak
@ancient_oak 3 месяца назад
Much much better without the lame video game sound, even if it is quieter it's more "mechanical".
@chrxs_gr4422
@chrxs_gr4422 6 месяцев назад
Is this how it sounds on the inside or outside too
@benjamintoth3513
@benjamintoth3513 Год назад
Was it difficult to install? Im looking to replace it like that
@UTubeSL
@UTubeSL 19 дней назад
The ASC is, for me, the worst sounding engine noise I've ever heard. Massively put me off the car; doesn't help how difficult it is to not have a stock exhaust in the UK.
@icyxwindz
@icyxwindz 2 месяца назад
Damn how can i make a switch for my ASC
@nickvlaanderen
@nickvlaanderen Год назад
The fake sound is not that bad, imo. My 2015 Mini F56 JCW also has fake sound and i prefer it on. I have coded it out with Beamercode but i have put it on again because i missed the fake sound : )))) In the future we will accept fake sound from EV's i guess.
@MCHellshit
@MCHellshit Год назад
Nah it's pretty bad
@787blah
@787blah Год назад
No the fuck we won’t
@j.e3336
@j.e3336 Год назад
No
@gavin7715
@gavin7715 Год назад
Sounds better without it honestly
@volleyballfreak2023
@volleyballfreak2023 7 месяцев назад
natural sounds wayyy better. like don’t know why they decided to make the fake engine noise
@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594
Is there a downside to the fake sound? I mean wouldn't this help you being able to shift gears by listening? And with the fake sound you can get the benefits of that without having to have an overwhelmingly loud car I mean obviously if the fake sound sounds nothing like the real sound then yes that is dishonest but otherwise, isn't it good overall?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
I personally prefer the fake sound
@seanmackay6739
@seanmackay6739 11 месяцев назад
You're right. It gets a lot of hate but it's a not bad solution to "me want vroom vroom real loud" without making the car deafening to everyone around you. If it keeps even one kid from drilling holes in his muffler it's probably worth including in cars. But I do wish it was on a switch like this. Cruising with a passenger on a long drive I want it off for sure. But going for a fun driving session I might want it on instead
@johnybigarms
@johnybigarms Год назад
Do you know if the speaker used under the glovebox is dedicated to the fake sound or is it also used for the ICE? If it’s purely for the fake engine noise, you could sound proof the actual speaker with sound deadening to suite your taste, or does it come from all the other speakers too?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
I think it's a dedicated speaker behind the console for the fake engine noise. You probably could tweak it to control the volume but I haven't tried
@johnybigarms
@johnybigarms Год назад
@@TrackandBuild I think that would be the a simple way to control the sound, access to it I imagine would be difficult, or you identify the speaker output wires from the sound generator and attenuate the volume it through a speaker volume control box, a physical volume controller wired inline from the generator to the actual speaker, then you can adjust to suit individual taste
@johnybigarms
@johnybigarms Год назад
Excuse the grammar, it’s late
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
@@johnybigarms Yes, I think others also mentioned the idea. It might work!
@michaelruddick2662
@michaelruddick2662 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild Did you find evidence of that speaker, or are you just guessing? I was thinking that maybe part of the sound module wiring harness/connector is a simple speaker output, but it looks tricky to put a scope on it and look for things that seem audio-like. Somehow I think it's part of the CAN bus in the car, and may be piping (digital) sound to the main stereo/audio unit of the car. That's just a gut feel, no actual evidence on my part. I WISH it were a speaker somewhere, because then it should be fairly easily to get a variable attenuator of some sort and control volume to wherever one likes it. Even better, low-pass filter it so that you only get the low notes, since IMO that's the best part of the added fakery, since the car doesn't inherently (stock) have much deep to it.
@hayabusa27
@hayabusa27 Год назад
They should install this on Teslas
@MaximumYin
@MaximumYin Год назад
do you think putting a volume knob in line would work?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
I did not try that but it might work!
@Jez4prez1
@Jez4prez1 Год назад
Just picked up a manual BRZ a few days ago, and swear it doesn't have the fake engine noise by default. Can anyone confirm if it's suppose to come on at certain RPM? Or do you have to press the accelerator all the way down? So far I've been driving below 4,000 RPM (but still quite fast a few times), and don't think I've heard it once. I can hear lots of random road noises, the sound of the gears, and the engine noise reminds me exactly of a manual NA Impreza (sounds like mini-tractor). Don't think I've heard any Gran Turismo 2 engine noises yet. The only other BRZ I ever drove was the auto BRZ at the dealer many months back for the test drive, and that one 100% had the fake engine noises.
@JDMFlipFlops
@JDMFlipFlops Год назад
It'll only be audible once you're over 4000rpm - once you're out of the break-in period and it's safe to start beating on the car, definitely do some pulls in it and you'll be able to hear it more clearly.
@Jez4prez1
@Jez4prez1 Год назад
@@JDMFlipFlops okay thanks for the info. I was wondering if it was 4000rpm. Nice to have it confirmed!
@timmcintire9402
@timmcintire9402 Год назад
I could definitely hear it before 4000 rpms. It’s very noticeable. Disabled mine today
@Jez4prez1
@Jez4prez1 Год назад
@@timmcintire9402 Kind of strange as I can't hear it below 4,000rpm. Maybe I've been driving too much like a granny though hehe. I'm certain I have it, and I will probably deactivate it the moment I actually hear it after break-in. EDIT: You know for a thought experiment. I should just open it up now, and pull the wires, even while still driving below 4000rpm, and see if I can notice the difference. I'll do it this weekend.
@ftr911drvr
@ftr911drvr Год назад
@@Jez4prez1 or it just doesn't bother you, I think some of the reactions to it are pretty dramatic honestly
@harelrahman9722
@harelrahman9722 7 месяцев назад
if only the fake sound use the rod knock sound,or valve rattling sound, add more adrenaline in every condition
@dmichael97
@dmichael97 Год назад
Which wire did you tap into, what color is it? Thanks
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
Here's a document with the pinout docs.google.com/document/d/1369m2NF14v76D-8E0EwOBejsj2yOJVyvgjNiU5J297o/edit#heading=h.rguruzk1rs0o
@dmichael97
@dmichael97 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild Thank you so much, this is fantastic and very detailed
@crabgundy
@crabgundy Год назад
ASC sounds like GT4
@fuze3522
@fuze3522 Год назад
Bruh. I don’t know if it sounds bad over the camera but the BRZ/GR86 sounds awful with the fake noise. They should have never added it. 😢
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
it may sound louder in the camera due to the mic position.
@rappervipervevo7397
@rappervipervevo7397 Год назад
central expwy LOL
@v1rotate391
@v1rotate391 Год назад
What’s the sound when you make a hard right turn at high speed and the oil pressure drops
@BIMONLAKI
@BIMONLAKI Год назад
Wtf the car comes with fake engine sounds?? For what
@mptboi7284
@mptboi7284 Год назад
Can you post a diy?
@Trisma
@Trisma Год назад
Yeah that would be cool
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
I did not film while doing this one. Definitely will post when possible
@mptboi7284
@mptboi7284 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild ty!
@robertpeet1360
@robertpeet1360 Год назад
@@TrackandBuild Yup, please tell us which wire you're "switching" that is not throwing a code.
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
@@robertpeet1360 simply add a toggle switch on the ignition wire of the ASC unit and you got it
@MJEYouTube
@MJEYouTube 2 месяца назад
Off may be better
@JamesTonerUSA
@JamesTonerUSA Год назад
Might be a silly question but I plan on keeping mine stock. Is there a way to actually increase the ASC sound?
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
not that I know. ASC is louder in track mode than in normal mode though
@JamesTonerUSA
@JamesTonerUSA Год назад
@@TrackandBuild can track mode be used for daily driving? Or does it loosen the grip on the road?
@omarhrdz6050
@omarhrdz6050 Год назад
@@JamesTonerUSA i always have it on with sport mode u should be good
@bubbleman2002
@bubbleman2002 Год назад
@@JamesTonerUSA I think track mode just disables ESC and TCS, so you will actually gain more usable grip from the chassis, but also if you make a mistake and slide it won't help you out any.
@vh448
@vh448 Год назад
Sounds better fake, sounds like a sport bike.
@ToniDella
@ToniDella Год назад
My GR86 doesnt scream like that at all😂. Maybe they tuned it differently for Germany.
@TrackandBuild
@TrackandBuild Год назад
I put the mic close to the glove box so it sounds louder
@Ghost-yh8gm
@Ghost-yh8gm Год назад
Wait, that's my route to work lol. I work at Rivian.
@goodgod9330
@goodgod9330 5 месяцев назад
Can it get any more fake? I belive toyota will soon make a car that wont ride but just makes wheels look like they are turing😂
@gregmorris2022
@gregmorris2022 Год назад
As much as I hate to admit it, fake sounds better. 🤷‍♂️
@lemans_news_and_stories
@lemans_news_and_stories 16 дней назад
In Mine there is absolutely no difference 😂
@ricardotellez1050
@ricardotellez1050 Год назад
It's like before and after having a cold air intake
@franksinatra2278
@franksinatra2278 9 месяцев назад
That is the worst fake sound ever. Even Gran Turismo 1 sounded more realistic.
@LacheanApostate
@LacheanApostate Год назад
Real engine noise is better. Disconnected mine day 1.
@MichaelAMyers1957
@MichaelAMyers1957 Год назад
So pathetic that we’ve come to a point where vehicles come with a fake sound option..
@LZKaiMarc
@LZKaiMarc Год назад
after this vid i am even happyer that i had decided me for the ND MX5. After the change of the exhaust its so satisfiying. this here is synthetic bullshit!
@SR-fx5sm
@SR-fx5sm 10 месяцев назад
wow this is actually a thing...
@leavingarizona3345
@leavingarizona3345 Год назад
The fake engine noise sounds so incredibly bad
@shubhang9758
@shubhang9758 6 месяцев назад
yeah definitely not gonna buy a gr86 anymore
@rathion2853
@rathion2853 Год назад
Wow it sounds so awful. Like, cool, put in some fake engine noise if you want to Toyota, but at least make it sound like a real engine and not a vacuum cleaner.
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 7 месяцев назад
Noise does not equal power. I hope everyone with loud pipes gets an hour of sleep before their next super important meeting or evaluation. Piped in fake sound just proves my point; it’s mental, get over it
@ezb77
@ezb77 Год назад
Getting M2 Comp vibes from this. Horrible.
@adrian3686
@adrian3686 3 месяца назад
Sounds like sht either way…lol
@BanjoJo
@BanjoJo Год назад
what cringe is this
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