Grab Bar Without Studs 

I picked up mine at Lowe's. And they really were this easy. I am barely an amateur DIYer and they were very simplistic and durable, www.moen.com/bathroom/safety/hand-grips www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=moen+shower+bars

Use google.

@@alan4sure lowes stores or home depot

I'd think it would actually be stronger. The weight is spread out even more in that case vs downward.

@@RisaMoreno Up and down the gyprock is basically 3 metres thick so it's super strong for forces in this direction. Back and forwards it's only a few mm thick so much weaker.

I've built some bars and remodeled a few. Put some plywood behind the drywall where ever you plan on mounting anything. Mount to the plywood and it will last a good long time. 3/4" plywood!

Did the grab bar pull out of tile or dry way?

Of course.

Of course, the emergency fall "grab to save your life" will rip this crap right out of the wall and the person will fall and get injured.

Yea I can’t find the studs behind the ceramic, may try something like this anchor kit ,just wish the hole wasn’t so big , oh well, probably stronger, thanks

@@fleadoggreen9062 don’t forget to put the silicone on so no leakage

I heard him say Moen.

@DR PHIL Thanks for your reply. My single walls are T&G, red wood with 2x4 pieces along 3/4 up the walls for added strength. It was built over 65 yrs ago.

@DR PHIL No drywall or tile on the other side.

Better still to locate the studs first, that way you may be able to make a small adjustment and anchor one or both ends in the center of a stud.

If there is a stud you won't need this contraption, just get a regular grab bar and screw it in the stud!!!!!

That's my luck too. I guess I also need a tile bit to drill a test hole first. I've already spent $90 to put up one grab bar. o.O

A stud finder doesn’t work on tile. There is always possibility to mess up your wall by doing the wrong thing.

@@claydiddy63able you cant get all 3 screws into a stud, its too narrow

Of course it WILL NOT WORK.

Of course it WILL NOT WORK.

Maybe toggle bolts ?

It’s been 6 months, what did you end up doing?

I have asked the same question on other DIY videos but never received an answer.

@@Dr.Pepper001 well dwight you obviously own a computer ! I know it might require typing afew extra words in the search bar! sorry to put all that extra effort on you!

Hmmm 🤔 sure, why not? Just use silicone to seal it up to prevent leaks

I installed a Moen hand-held shower bar once on a fiberglass shower and used what Moen included in the box and it held up well. I think they were toggle bolts.

Installing A Grab Bar in a Fiberglass Shower - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qqZ9rk7vqkM.html

No shit: he - you need to find a stud! 😢😮 OR - A " PROPELLER MOUNT" 1.HOLE . 2. 2X4 3. NOT 2X4~ STRONG METAL BAR TO REACH ONE STUD & DOUBLE THAT? ~~~ 3. NO STUDS OR BLIND EALL? WHY? WHERES " SOAP DISH?" OR " TUB/ BATH ENCLOSURE MOUNTING?" A. CEILING TO FLOOR? B. TUB WALL CLAMP DOUBLE CLAMP CROSSOVER BAR LOWER HIGHER TO GET UP AND OUT! C. PUT ONE BY THE FAUCETS THERE'S GOT TO BE STUDS BY THE FAUCETS FOR THE PIPES TO GO TO OTHERWISE YOU NEED TO SEE A PROFESSIONAL TO GET YOUR HOUSE UP TO CODE??? IF THE FAUCETS AND THE SPOUT AND THE SHOWER HEAD IS NOT MOUNTED TO SOMETHING DON'T BUY THAT HOUSE NUMBER ONE TWO IF YOU'RE IN THAT HOUSE RIP IT OUT NUMBER THREE INSTALL A SHOWER TUB FROM A PRO AND HAVE THEM PUT ENOUGH STUDS IN THERE THAT YOU CAN MARK THEM SOMEHOW SOMEWAY? IF THERE'S NO OTHER WAY IN THE WORLD FLOOR TO CEILING MOUNT! AND IF YOU'RE RICH AND FAMOUS AND ON TV~~

Get a new tub enclosure I've got a system where my wife and I both have spine problems and sciatica and our legs sometimes we tell the legs to walk and sometimes they don't say anything sometimes we tell the legs to walk and they say no sit there lay there I'll tell you when Will the case like that you need a professional shower tub side door mount and a transfer from your wheelchair to the tub or if absolutely necessary😢😂😊 " drive-thru" handicap shower Now that means that you're that wheelchair must be reasonably water safe or waterproof so you can get in wash it out then a rug just wait on while everything drips off the wheelchair don't try to wipe it with the damn towel I ended up in the hospital that way so::🦽♿⚕️🙏🛀 You can wait for it to dry or if you have the physical ability you can in fact go to a transfer wing I call it like a ironing board if you're old enough to remember those where would be a flat piece of board like a cutting board but mounted to the side of the tub if you can pull that down and it's strong enough- ADA and OSHA says 500 lb? That's up to you If they say so and you die you die if you go cheap and you fall you die and they go haha If you do what they say and you fall and die then they'll tell me to upgrade mine and everybody else on the planet! 🤞🙏🛀 But anyway if you get off your dry wheelchair to the transfer board then you can get your feet in Now the good ones have a second board on the inside that he allows you mechanically by motor or a double step which folds up Now you're in the tub how you get out got to have a grab bar somewhere or you got to have a grab bar on the bathtub wall or rip the tub out and install a new shower with grab bars or buy one of those fancy ones you see on TV but be prepared to count up to 5000 or 8,000 US dollars now!!!💸💸☠️🇺🇸 If you wait too long fight inflation will increase that to who knows what but if you're young and handicapped do it right and then pass it on If you're old and handicap you know what to do Make it so you can get to your deathbed how many years is it that depends then when your heirs sell the house or move into the house that depends also Will the new people like it or they complete dreamers that think since they're 20 years old and live forever and ever or they come in and they need that equipment they got it at home but they're either downsizing or upsizing or sideway sizing??🛀🙏🤞😊 In any case if they want it they'll buy it they don't want it though shrimp on you If they really love it then you can get your money back!😂😮😊🙏 I'm saying to dear Lord God for it! Meanwhile do not get suction cup handles Don't even bring them with you on vacation flat out tell him I've got to have handicap bath shower etc! But if you do if you do if you do get a screw floor to ceiling fixture that disassembles it'll fit in your trunk your purse or have a semi tractor trailer file you around with it hah! Anyway that goes pressure to the floor pressure to the ceiling and if it spreads out the pressure great Now the ceiling looks like a"POS" THEN DON'T WRECK THE MOTEL HOTEL ETC AND HAVE THEM CHARGE YOU SIX TIMES AS MUCH TO FIX IT THAN A DAMAGE YOU DID RIGHT? SO IF NOT JUST TO STUDY YOURSELF WHY NOT OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING SOMETHING THAT A YOU CAN SIT ON IN THE TUB AND OUT OF THE TUB HAVE TO HIDE IT A TUB WALL YOU GET ON THAT LEG IS OVER ASS ON THE BATHTUB AND THEN IN A CHAIR IF YOU CAN DO THAT THEN FOLD THAT SHIT UP AND PUT IT AWAY IF IT LEAVES TO MARK THAT'S---> BUT THAT'LL ALSO WORK AT HOME IF YOU CAN GET FROM THE WHEELCHAIR I KNOW THIS SOUNDS RIDICULOUS TO THE FLOOR YOU'RE SAFE YOU CAN'T FALL OFF THE FLOOR RIGHT THEN IF YOU CAN BEND ARMPIT BATH WALL AND BATH BOTTOM TUMMY BATH WALL HAND BATH CHAIR BUT BATH WALL BUT THAT CHAIR FEET TO BATH FLOOR❤😂🎉

Well after granny goodwell falls with the grab bar. Then moen with discontinue this system. 😜

They definitely do. We just bought a house, and are in the middle of UNinstalling grab bars (they mounted so many in the tub) and it’s a fiberglass shower tub with no studs/drywall behind it. And we have had a TIME getting these suckers out. Lol they definitely were there to stay

If the insulation is not too thick and the anchor can open, why not? Goal is to spread force across a wider area so if anchor splays out, should be good.

I’ve installed over 200 of these units as a volunteer for the Yolo Healthy Aging Alliance . The answer is “yes”. This grab bar utilizing the Moen SecureMount system will withstand 300 lbs of pull in 1/8” thick fiberglass tub surrounds. It is UL and ADA approved.

Moen

I agree with your point. I use silicone behind the mounting plates to create a seal to prevent water intrusion. Secondly, I am perfectly willing to risk water damage versus my senior clients falling in the shower or bathroom.

I have a 100 year old home. Walls are lathe and plaster? Can I install?

Use a sealant

For porcelain you'd have to use a diamond hole saw bit and be sure to wet it frequently or you'll ruin the bit-

Make the answer clear

Make the answer clear

Installing A Grab Bar in a Fiberglass Shower - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qqZ9rk7vqkM.html

I'm so, so very sorry to hear about your dad.

@@dondacombs9635 thank you