Moen's Secure Mount Anchors 

I just installed 7 grab bars using these mounts and these mounts are great! They are easy to install (this video helped starting at 1:18) and, so far, appear very secure. 5 of the mounts were to 1/2 inch drywall and the other 2 were installed to a 1/8 inch fiberglass tube surround.

six years later I am happy I installed this anchor even though I fumbled the installation.. It is holding very well. This anchor holds a safety bar in a bathtub enclosure. I installed 5/8" fiberglass fill sheetrock around the tub and then installed the plastic shower/tub surrounded, so the base was quite stable.

Oh, these anchors are great!! I'm 3 weeks out from a major heart attack and I had no problems at all installing the anchors and the grab bar. Hands down I'm not ever doing it any other way. The video does not show, however, the level that's needed or angle finder if it's at an angle. But that's kind of up to the user/installer to decide upon.

Moen states the thickness of the wall with tile can only be 5/8” thick. You mentioned you can install up to 1 1/2” thick. Can you clarify.

42 years custome home builder, I've always used the spring toggle bolts for this type of stuff but I must say this is a well thought out design. Same drill bit as kitchen sink faucet, large contact area. Nice. I thought they were a little pricey at $14.00 each

As an experienced DIY, I approached this item with some trepidation but it appeared to be the best of the anchors out there. Looked like you got it right the first time or you were in for BIG trouble. I did not want to buy yet another hole saw so I used a spade bit with a pilot hole on my bath surround. First hole was perfect. Second hole was a mess and a bit wallowed out, but usable, at least I thought it was. First mount went in just like the video. Second one went in, but it did not seem to want to snug up to the wall and at one point the round frame lifted out of the wall and I realized the vertical bar was no longer in its tracks cause the frame came out of the wall. All was not lost at this point because I was still holding the ring latch. Unfortunately, everything I needed to save this job was out of reach except my shoelace. I used one hand to remove my shoelace, tied it to the ring and tied that to a wash cloth bar. Fetched the Moen anchor saucer and the machine screw, positioned it as I bent the ring latch down as I attempted to catch a few threads. Was crowing about my brilliance when the latch unlatched and the bar fell to the bottom of my wall. Tried fishing with a magnet, but failed. Ordering another one. Expensive . So, tie a long string to the ring latch and place a piece of tape across the end of the round frame points to snug up the track arms before inserting into the wall. I am assuming the problem was the wallowed out hole was not holding the arms tightly, so buy a hole saw.

The test was a direct vertical stress from the point of the chain on the bar. They test up to 600 direct load. However, the lateral or horizontal stress loads, which more closely mimic actual falls outward from the mounts, go up to 900 pounds for 1/8" fiberglass and 700 pounds for 1/2" drywall. Nobody has ever pulled a bar out from a fall with these mounts. Millions have been sold and are ADA approved. Moen part #SMA1000CH at the Moen website.

It is not clear whether the mounts used for the 6oo Lbs testing were attached to sheetrock alone or attached to studs (or even a combination of one end attached to sheetrock and the other attached to the stud). Again, I am specifically interested in the attachment set-up used for the bar tested to take 600 lbs continuous load and 50 Lbs short fall. Also wonder the test results for a 250 Lbs/12 inch drop (weight of a falling person). Thanks for developing/demonstrating such outstanding product.

I am interested to find out : 1) which stud finder can find studs behind a tile surface? 2) what do you do if the center of the attachment you pick happen so close to the stud there is no room for the insert ? 3) what happen if the dry wall behind the tile is glue to the stud instead of nailed for screwed to the stud, will the anchor still have the rated capacity?

Nice video and informative but the only concern I have is no mention of sealing the around around the mount with a silicone caulking.

But be careful. Over a stud is great. Away from a stud where the back mount can fit is great. But "too close" to a stud and you'll find that you cannot place the back anchor because the stud is part-way "visible" in the hole and the back-mount won't go in. I hope the instructions give advice in such a case.

For hollow walls. If you have studs to mount into use something else.

Will it work on a fiberglass tub/shower unit

Make the plate out of Stainless instead of aluminum and charge $2 more. Too much doubt about the aluminum corroding after several years.

because it's fiberglass covered with epoxy, you could have gotten away with glueing it with epoxy...and even fibreglass if you found some.

Mounting straight onto gyprock with out tiles, sweet.

A $40 strap toggle. Nice.

Can't these companies make anything that isn't made of plastic?

Doubtful this method is reliable after multiple uses. testing was probably done with bar mounted close to studs. With a tile wall you will be better off to Rozip the drywall on the other side of the wall and put in blocking.

they don’t say anything about how they prevent water intrusion.

So you're showing WingIts products (And sneakily showing a non Wingits Grab Bar where the installation is complete different) and claiming that we are more costly and support less weight? So we're just totally lying now when it comes to marketing? Our GBW40's are not only less costly, but rated 200 lbs higher. And the installation is LESS streamlined? There's a reason that our installation video for GBW40 is only about a minute and doesn't contain more fluff that a Himalayan cat.

Not to mention - since this anchor is retangular shaped, physics deems it impossible to handle vector forces 360 degrees around. So you might be rated up to a certain limit, but that's only condition - only for pressure applied downward. Moen thinks it's okay lie about competitors and lie to their customers about safety apparently.

I also love how Moen grab bars are so proud of only "bending" when a 50 pound weight is dropped from it. So are you going to just leave it bent? It's acceptable for a bar to bend when someone is clutching is from a fall? What a joke. A real grab bar would never bend from that.