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"Grade C" Enfield No 4 Mk1 Rifles from Royal Tiger Imports Review. Can't Win Them All..Or Can You? 

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@DrGamingDude
@DrGamingDude 4 года назад
"You be the judge" is more of a Paul Harrell thing than Tim Pool.
@jayyoung5627
@jayyoung5627 4 года назад
Looks like they have removed your review now. Don't hesitate to call them what they are. A scam.
@turbografx16
@turbografx16 4 года назад
Wow. That's low.
@TheKoba49
@TheKoba49 4 года назад
great review I ordered some carcano rifles from them will be doing a review soon.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Hey, good to see you're still kicking! I wouldn't get your hopes up for those rifles....Maybe just wait a little bit....If you catch my drift...
@nathanieljones7981
@nathanieljones7981 2 года назад
@@MikeB128 I picked up one from KY gun Co. They had a 1936 dated rifle with mint bore and in great shape! And some earlier 1901-1923 rifles that were hit or miss with rust and Being good rifles. Going back to pick up another, Really been wanting a mas 36 or Enfield, however I can't find anyone with reputable sellers of them...For a decent price
@gump071
@gump071 2 года назад
I just took a risk also on gambling on RTI. I just bought a 1891 Carcano rifle in a 6.5X52 grade B with a $40.00 hand picked boar rifle. After see this review … I’m kinda worried about what I’ll find in the mail …
@Colicious89
@Colicious89 4 года назад
I got suckered into buying one of the “Refinished“ No 4s from Classic. It was caked in dirt and had a half assed finish slapped over said dirt. Makes these seem like a bargain.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
@@TheGearhead222 If you want people to know you're "John in Texas", change your username to "John In Texas" and stop signing every fucking comment with some 2003 era E-mail signature style.......
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
@@TheGearhead222 Being a vet doesn't mean I can't call out your stupid shit for being annoying.....The military is/was a job...Not a free pass to do dumb shit.
@Euan_Miller43
@Euan_Miller43 4 года назад
TheGearhead222 nope
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 Год назад
Ben ,how could you! I've heard so many bad things about them.
@TheMosinCrate
@TheMosinCrate 4 года назад
Oh... Okay. I see how it is. "No I've done videos like that before." "You sure? It could be a good video, people would enjoy it." One week later here it is. You SOB.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Don't you have a goat somewhere to violate? Stop trolling, sir. God bless.
@desabc221
@desabc221 4 года назад
Please explain what this is about?
@williambinions4205
@williambinions4205 4 года назад
Ouch
@HircineDaWolf
@HircineDaWolf 4 года назад
@@MikeB128 sounds like he was just joking and about to release a similar video lol
@TexasLeverGunner
@TexasLeverGunner 4 года назад
I've read a lot of horror stories on rifles from RTI. Of course though, when you buy rifles that came from countries where you know they were rode hard and put up wet, this is to be expected I guess. I am really excited about the decent stash of Carcanos and Chassepot's and I may take the risk on both here soon. At the price, it's worth it.
@maganaco.7994
@maganaco.7994 4 года назад
I bought a m16a1 kit from RTI they made me wait 3 weeks. Kit was very nice but they did not send me my pistol grip or the flash hider. After contacting them they told me to take a hike. Ended up buying replacement parts but they left a bad taste in my mouth.
@NCrdwlf
@NCrdwlf 4 года назад
I dunno , I feel for you but buying anything from him is a risk. First IO now all these African guns . Most are wall hangers at best. I like history too, but he is about the money I think.. maybe I’m wrong .
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
It would appear that's what he's about. I made this video in an attempt to educate people on this "too good to be true" "deal".
@scoe5908
@scoe5908 4 года назад
Fazakerley is about a 20 minute drive from me, weird seeing rifles made there pop all over the world
@nickmoore385
@nickmoore385 4 года назад
The Royal Ordnance Factory buildings are still there, but it's an industrial estate now. Same with Maltby in Yorkshire, which was the other main factory for them in the UK.
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 4 года назад
That s amazing it's a very small world now I have a (F) Enfield and I hand selected it my self because it was closest to my actual birth date by ten years 4/50 and thusly not as old in better shape and at 100$it has turned out to be quite a value. Oh I'm in California USA .
@GenericShirtNinja
@GenericShirtNinja 4 года назад
I feel the same with Long Branch Enfields and Inglis High Powers
@ringingsteel8729
@ringingsteel8729 4 года назад
Feel like I learned a few things about inspecting milsurps.
@tomj5747
@tomj5747 4 года назад
After seeing the condition I feel like they wayyy overcharged for these, if the barrels were good with the crappy exterior that’s one thing, but with crappy bores super rough outsides and missing parts I think rti was ripping people off
@clintonlayne9253
@clintonlayne9253 2 года назад
A fool and his money is Easley parted.
@rileyfarrell180
@rileyfarrell180 4 года назад
Ik u pry dont usually use head space gages and stuff but if i were you id defintly check those before u shoot up to u tho
@Heingar
@Heingar 4 года назад
I know they have a disclaimer on their site, but I really think you have a legitimate grievance with the Savage. They're specifically listing them as project rifles and as you said the fundamental integrity of the receiver is gone. At this point it is questionable if it even can be described as a project rifle. Seems as though they didn't inspect them at all, or even worse didn't care.
@desabc221
@desabc221 4 года назад
Have you checked the head space on all of them? What are the numbers on each bolt head?
@masonmitchell4050
@masonmitchell4050 4 года назад
I’ve been thinking about getting one, and I’ve decided for this very reason that I’ll only buy No.4’s in person, that rail is hit or miss.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
The Rail issue, like I said in the video, is only on the No 4 MK1* rifles made by Savage and at Long Branch...
@GarandGuy2553
@GarandGuy2553 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing! Unfortunately, I took a gamble on a Gew98 that turned out let so. Everything looked good except the bore and am in the process of evaluating if I should shoot it with the faint rifle that exists in the barrel. The throat is pretty much smooth bore though so am waiting for shows to start up so I can grab a barrel to swap out.
@ryanharrell8866
@ryanharrell8866 4 года назад
Thanks Mike I really appreciate you doing a review of these guys. I really didn't know what to expect from these grade c rifles and this gives me somewhat of a idea.
@CRCollector
@CRCollector 4 года назад
Thanks for posting this. The bolt guns from RTI have all been less than impressive based on videos and pictures I have seen. I don't agree with review censoring either, if you don't want peoples opinion on your page don't ask for reviews. I have bought a few things from RTI, and reviewed the M1 Carbine on my channel.
@thechurch5000
@thechurch5000 3 года назад
Mike I bought an Enfield No.4 back in 1990 for $99. They were essentially unused just had a ton of cosmoline all over it. I sold all of my curio and relics about five years ago and am sick I didn't keep a few. Other than a few vendors I would say the hobby is pretty dead like I saw you comment in a previous video. Good luck I would get anything you deem shootable checked by a gunsmith.
@Bayan1905
@Bayan1905 2 года назад
My local gun shop has a sporterized Savage SMLE from 1942, has the simpler two aperture L sight, the front sight is still there, it's only the stock that has any issues for $400. I think I would go with them than that parts heap. From what I'm hearing of some Royal Tiger Imports lately, they're not worth the money. I've seen some pretty ragged and rough looking K98's that they're asking a fortune for but look like they were dragged down a gravel road.
@bmoesucka8619
@bmoesucka8619 4 года назад
I bought 2 they were horrible bores bad and head space
@duty5127
@duty5127 4 года назад
Learn not to gamble.
@provenancemachining
@provenancemachining 4 года назад
Part them out and make your money back. The mag and stock set alone is worth good money.
@kaisercreb
@kaisercreb 4 года назад
british headspace is longer than SAAMI so they might not have passed SAAMI spec straight from the factory
@thewolfhunter
@thewolfhunter 2 года назад
ALL the weapons from RTI that came out of Ethiopia are WAY OVER PRICED.. The whole idea behind C&R and surplus firearms was to give the guy with not a lot of money a chance at owning a old firearm and maybe start collecting in order to keep our tradition alive.. Not anymore it has gone straight to greed. And it's becoming a rich man's sport.Until people stop paying outrageous prices for battlefield pickups the prices will remain high. On #5 ,Try Dawn dishwashing liquid and attach your cleaning rod with brush to a cordless drill..Then some LA's Totally Awesome all purpose cleaner. Then finish up with Hoppes. It works for me.
@mkruk2
@mkruk2 4 года назад
OOOF! Thanks for posting the follow up to that comment thread on the other video. I have seen the same issue happen to some other guy on GunBoards on his Savage Grade C. It's a shame that pretty much all of them have the finish worn down to the white. It sounds like you did the right thing of ordering more than one to guarantee that at least one is going to be acceptable to shoot, and parting out the rest.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
I wouldn't mind the finish being worn down, just really disappointed it is completely fucked.
@briancervelli5992
@briancervelli5992 4 года назад
I've been looking into getting a grade B No.4 Mk.1 from RTI for reenacting purposes. This provides some decent insight that I will take into consideration, but $350 for a rifle that should at least fire blanks seems like a pretty decent deal considering how much some people are asking for Enfields these days.
@rickyl7231
@rickyl7231 4 года назад
I just got into surplus stuff so take my input with a grain of salt as I am inexperienced. That being said I just got a B grade Number 4 in the mail from them last week. I opted to spend the extra $50 on a good bore and what I received passed the bullet test with flying colors. The rifle I have started as a Mk1 and was refurbished by the British at Fazakerley in the late 1950s and was converted to the Mk 1/2 configuration at that time. The only issue I see is a bent front sight hood wing, that is a cheap part to replace at less than $20 for a new one. Then only other issue is the bedding might be off as the downward pressure the barrel is supposed to put on the front of the stock does not seem to be there but the barrel does always go back to the same location after a bit of pressure is put on it. However I heard from the channel Bloke on the Range that some wartime rifles were factory free floated and seeing as my rifle was likely a war time production gun from the fact it started as a Mk1 it may be that it was built that way. I have not had a chance to shoot it yet but in conclusion I got an Enfield with a REALLY good bore in sound mechanical shape for less than $500. Honestly I'd roll the dice and get another one if I had the money, hopefully this helps you though!
@scooterdogg7580
@scooterdogg7580 4 года назад
maybe you buy the first one with the broken rail, blanks should be OK give him his $250 back worth a shot
@davidolie8392
@davidolie8392 4 года назад
About 8 years ago I bought my first Mosin-Nagant M91/30 from a different supplier, also for reenacting purposes. First time on the range I found it very difficult to extract spent rounds; turned out it has a burr in the chamber. Can't be fixed, and I suspect this was found when it was originally test-fired, because despite having a 1940 date it appears barely used, like it was put up on a shelf somewhere and forgotten. It's very pretty with its refinished stock, and it fires blanks just fine, so for my purposes I'm OK with it. But its always a crap shoot with milsurp.
@johnwaddell4107
@johnwaddell4107 Год назад
Get a chamber reamer, have someone do it or do it yourself
@Rhythmicons
@Rhythmicons 2 года назад
I don't think I'll ever purchase from RTI.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 2 года назад
Good call IMO.
@jonathanheller4029
@jonathanheller4029 4 года назад
I bought a no4 mk1 from them best grade i could and tbh it wasn't much better then these whole gun filthy poor bore loose stock and wrong magazine. paid about 500 for what u were getting for 250
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Jesus. That's really shitty. I will not advise anyone to buy from RTI again after this and what the comments have been.
@youtubeisfacist7673
@youtubeisfacist7673 Год назад
4 neglect African owned riffles, 1 with an Ethiopian art work on a tiger walnut stock. RTI paid 20$ each probably, tops
@michaelblocki2926
@michaelblocki2926 4 года назад
You're being to polite, in my opinion these should be described as barely c grade shooters
@austinhead5415
@austinhead5415 4 года назад
I bought one of these as well. Right out of the box the bolt was 1/4” from closing and it was stuck so tight I couldn’t smack the bolt open. Also, it had an absolutely terrible smell to it. Like a dead animal. it’s a 1942 Fazarkly. Tapped the bolt out with a brass hammer and cleaned everything. I had a sporterized version before so I tried the bolt from it and it worked fine. Headspace was terrible tho. Also, the source of the smell seemed to be something brown that dried under the hand gaurd near the muzzle end of the gun. I’m not going to speculate what that was, just wiped it off with a Clorox wipe. The really cool part, was that on the left side of the gun, on the wood by the trigger gaurd it has 6 tally marks carved in it. (4 vertical with a slash and 1 more vertical) I’ve never seen this on a British gun before. It’s a cool wall hanger but that’s about it. I would consider it really dangerous to fire with the headspace the way it is. I’m not super upset by the purchase, just wish they might have specified that these cannot be made into shooters, that some of these had defects that make them unusable.
@mauricesmith3209
@mauricesmith3209 Год назад
.303 cartridge head space on the rim. So if the bolt snaps shut with a little pressure. You should be ok
@MrCadet08
@MrCadet08 4 года назад
Royal Tiger Imports also owns I.O. they are the only gun company that I know of that makes Century look like great businessmen and wonderful gunsmiths. I have ordered from them 5 times over the past 10 years, it has all been absolute junk priced like gems.......seriously snake oil salesmen are better than Royal Tiger
@Mainsail1975au
@Mainsail1975au 4 года назад
I'm sorry but all those rifles seem terrible, and worn like they have been hit with a wire brush. I had a look on their site and there is now only three glowing reviews. Even their pictures showed missing parts like safetys and cocking knobs. I'm just glad I got my enfields a few years ago. I hope you can at least make a couple of shooters out of them.
@sevenpointsixtwo9707
@sevenpointsixtwo9707 2 года назад
I just pulled the trigger on a No. 1 Mk iii from RTI. I REALLY hate buying a firearm (especially old MilSurp) sight unseen. I’m fully expecting a wall hanger.
@kaveman9
@kaveman9 4 года назад
I remember buying 5- and 10-gun lots from CAI, SOG and I/O for $10-20 each and being really pissed at what they sent,.....but I never got anything THAT bad.
@sethcooper5067
@sethcooper5067 4 года назад
I'm tempted to pick up an M1 Carbine from them. Any thoughts?
@generaluriah9569
@generaluriah9569 Год назад
I've seen too many bad reviews about Royal Tiger products. THANKS!
@jamesbracken4618
@jamesbracken4618 2 года назад
It's best to stay away from any Ethiopean trash. There were once good guns in Ethiopia, the day after they were delivered, after that no.
@sovietstarfishproductions5019
@sovietstarfishproductions5019 4 года назад
wish I could've gotten one, the No.4 Mk.1 is on my list of rifles to collect
@mitchd5118
@mitchd5118 4 года назад
@Kasey Turchin same
@Igneoused
@Igneoused 4 года назад
Soviet Starfish Productions I bought one of the “grade A” or whatever the $479 one was listed as. Mine was dirty, with a lot of wear, and it was out of headspace. But overall functional. I don’t regret the purchase, but unless you are interested in the story of how these rifles came to the US, I’d recommend getting one from elsewhere. Their AK kits however, were in fantastic shape.
@Igneoused
@Igneoused 4 года назад
RONNIE HERNANDEZ thank you, where I’m living now I have data caps so I’m not really able to record and upload like I wanted to. Didn’t think many people liked my videos anyway. Thank you for the encouragement, I’ll make more when I can.
@huntermurphy2148
@huntermurphy2148 4 года назад
You can find them commonly at gun shows. I got an amazing condition No4 longbranch from a show in Charlotte NC this year. Favorite by far.
@scooterdogg7580
@scooterdogg7580 4 года назад
lots in Canada , fair amount of k98s as well try gunpost
@kylekohler5228
@kylekohler5228 4 года назад
Great review, I got lucky with my C grade. Bought one and it is a No. 4 Mk2 made in Fazakerley, 5 groove barrel. Slight cordworn at the end. Might recrow it, the muzzle test indicated that it was barely shot. Slight rust at the end of the barrel, and a good throat. Was missing the front sight protector, extractor spring, and forend nut and bolt. I bought some of the parts, but I'll have to fabricate a nut for bolt in the forend. Damm things are impossible to find. Magazine and safety came included. The only major problem which I haven't done to much to is the bolt won't cycle properly to lock forward. It won't come close to locking forward, even with extreme pressure on it. I think it was reassembled wrongly and I lack the firing pin tool to take it apart to check. I plan on buying that tool, maybe it's a knowledge thing, this is my first and only Lee Enfield rifle I own, so I'm more clueless on this then other rifles I own.
@viking1236
@viking1236 4 года назад
Check the bolt head is tightened correctly as a first move.
@jagzilla1398
@jagzilla1398 4 года назад
They look like they got puked out of Zardoz's mouth..
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
You're so incredibly funny....
@jagzilla1398
@jagzilla1398 4 года назад
@@MikeB128 Naaaaaaa...Just honest..pal..(bugs bunny voice)
@thomasdonnelly2642
@thomasdonnelly2642 4 года назад
I got a carcano coming today from them, I dont know what I'm in for 😬
@mkruk2
@mkruk2 4 года назад
As long as your expectations are low, I think you will be alright.
@thomasdonnelly2642
@thomasdonnelly2642 4 года назад
Well the verdict in, I pulled it out of the box and I was like hell yeah it's in decent condition. Then I looked down the bore. It was literally a smooth bore. Never buying something from them again
@Apolloneek
@Apolloneek 4 года назад
@@thomasdonnelly2642 damm and I was excited to get one
@thomasdonnelly2642
@thomasdonnelly2642 4 года назад
@@Apolloneek did yours come in yet?
@missilpeludo8813
@missilpeludo8813 4 года назад
I got one model m38 last Friday and was in really good shape
@lauriewatkins8522
@lauriewatkins8522 4 года назад
Your last rifle with the sticky bolt appears to me to have a slight twist in the action, if any one in Australia offered any Milsurp like any of those rifles they would be closed down and charged by our Consumers protection people, selling fire arms here is very hard and any like those are just not on at all, most of our .303's are Australian Lithgow manufacture with others made by BSA, Enfield and any No 4's are usually Longbranch manufacture, all are safe to shoot or they are sold as spare parts, my own is a No5 manufactured in 1946 at the Fazackerly factory and as tight as the day it was made, I have notice a few that have the markings ROF which is the Royal Ordinance Factory which are in all likelyhood made in India, the only ones here have been converted to .308 by the Indian factories and don't sell well at all
@cammobunker
@cammobunker 4 года назад
The last one needs a bore cleaning by electrolysis. The bolt rifles from RTI that came out of Ethiopia are in NRA shitty condition overall. The M1 Carbines actually seem to be in decent condition and are actually in original WW2 trim. I have a history with RTI/ Interordnance that put them on my "never do business with again, ever" list. YMMV.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
There is a reason I spent this much money to make a video like this...I wasn't expecting gems, but certainly wasn't expecting Wall hangers for that price. To me, it's worth it to spend the money to get the word out so more people don't get burned.
@Dan-sq5cv
@Dan-sq5cv 3 года назад
RTI seems to accumulate some not so favorable comments on their grading system. I know that milsurp is about at the end of it's endless supply but they should not endanger people who may not know guns well. Looks like at least three of these should be parts only guns. They do seem to embellish there wording to say the least. Sorry that happened to you but I hear the same for there carcanos.
@pulldeauxduck2480
@pulldeauxduck2480 3 года назад
Like the muzzle test. And crown check used to pay 10/25 $ s for hand pick and get a fine gun.those days gone!
@ssnydess6787
@ssnydess6787 2 года назад
I got lucky, bought a No 5 Mk 1 that was in in decent shape from a special they ran. The bolt was incorrect as it didn't have the correct lightening hole for it. (similarly this example does not have the correct bolt, but a lightened No. 5 Mk 1 Jungle Carbine bolt. It took about a month but I felt the company was responsive and exchanged my incorrect bolt for a correct one. That gun is amazing.
@jerseydutchman6940
@jerseydutchman6940 4 года назад
Bought a B grade rifle, read the reviews and promptly cancelled the order.
@markmanwaring3823
@markmanwaring3823 4 года назад
The barrels will make great tent pegs , build one out of them all , put a new barrel on it mate , head spaced to the best bolt / head , try 7x55 , same pressures but a better case from the 303 rimmed shell . Love your enthusiasm .
@stutterz45
@stutterz45 4 года назад
I got kinda thirsty to buy a no4 mk1, so I got a sportized one for around 350 and it was kinda rough around the edges. And it was worth it because it’s so damn accurate it’s ridiculous, bullet test passed with flying colors I think I honestly just got lucky
@godwinjoy9730
@godwinjoy9730 4 года назад
These are the ones from Ethiopia, isn’t it.
@andrewrichison813
@andrewrichison813 4 года назад
A few weeks back I ordered a Romania AK47 B grade parts kit, I was very disappointed, the parts were in a thin bag and throwin in a shipping box. The parts are worn down to bare metal nothing matched and it came with a Bulgarian but stock. I feel the grade of the parts kit is misleading because the parts kit is a gunsmith special. Was my first time ordering from RTI and it's my last. So buyers be ware.
@ChaseDeMers-x4b
@ChaseDeMers-x4b 6 месяцев назад
Ok serious question from a fellow milsurp guy. Optimistic thought here, with those bullet tests you’re probably only hundreds or less of rounds away from keyholing rounds. Why spend over a dollar a round shooting a 5-6 moa rifle? Seems like a waste of money for something that simply makes noise Counter boring might help the muzzle but won’t mean shit if the throats worn. And 9-10 times throats wear faster than muzzles counterbore is more for damaged muzzles not worn out ones
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 6 месяцев назад
Ever think that at the time, I had a little extra dough, and was hearing horror stories, so I decided to buy 5 as a dice roll expecting at least ONE shooter and sell the rest as parts? Instead I got 5 useless piles of shit, and was able to make videos to warn others from rolling the dice and getting screwed.... I only lost a few bucks in the end as I followed through with my plan and sold them for parts. There's your "serious answer" to your "serious question".
@richardshackleford999
@richardshackleford999 4 года назад
I got a mosin m44 that was in a friend's garage for free. The barrel looked like a "sewer pipe" I cleaned it with hoppes and brush on drill and got it to where I felt comfortable putting a round through it from a distance with string. Two shots cleaned the barrel to where you could see the rifling again. I was surprised how well it looked again
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
I've done the same. Most of the time have had great results.
@duty5127
@duty5127 4 года назад
I've read the expression "with string" a few times, and I'm not quite sure what that means. Care to share?
@anglerfishtanking
@anglerfishtanking 4 года назад
@@duty5127 strap down the gun, tie a string to the trigger, pull it a safe distance away
@NegativeHeadspace
@NegativeHeadspace 4 года назад
If u wanna sound like tim, tell me "it's complicated."
@ralphjacobson8815
@ralphjacobson8815 4 года назад
I'm not going to go down the "I remember when" road. It just seems that $250 for a dog turd rifle is a bit much. It's kind of why I'm not buying one of those CZ-52 rifles from Classic. I keep seeing comments about broken stocks and rode hard, put away wet.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Wow, hadn't thought about that....This was my largest and last purchase from RTI, which is why I made this video so others don't get fucked like I did. They delete reviews so people have no way of knowing.
@hoxton7946
@hoxton7946 4 года назад
Hehe, now I see why you said 'deals can be had on Enfields' in your last vid! Excellent quality video as always MIke, you're probably my favorite youtuber and you've taught me a sh*t ton!
@CheekyMonkey1776
@CheekyMonkey1776 3 года назад
Excellent review and actionable information. I was thinking about picking up a few as well. No longer. Thanks
@mattproctor3113
@mattproctor3113 4 года назад
I bought a m1 carbine, carcano and a c grade enfield. Enfield turned out to be no 4 mk 1/3 only thing wrong was bolt missing parts. But I noticed several reviews taking down across several rifles are were negative reviews
@jeepman19
@jeepman19 4 года назад
Matt Proctor how was the carbine? I looked at them, but decided against it after reading reviews
@dustinjohns7222
@dustinjohns7222 4 года назад
I have learned not to roll the dice on enfields, they are not as strong as mauser actions, comrades never roll the dice on enfields lol.
@tfusilier44
@tfusilier44 2 года назад
Seems like some decent parts at least. At 18:29 you can see that No 4 has a No 5 trigger guard which actually worth alot more.
@clancywoodard310
@clancywoodard310 4 года назад
At a antique store a year ago I came across a No 4 Mk 1 and they said it was one that was used by the us military did the British government send us any lee Enfields
@sharpcookie791
@sharpcookie791 4 года назад
No, the US made rifles and sent them to Britain. They had US Property stamped on the receivers, but the US never used them.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 4 года назад
Lend Lease required that the equipment made in the US be marked "US Property" and returned or paid for after WW2. The UK finished paying the WW2 loans in December 2006. Russia paid 10c on the dollar after defaulting.
@gary11able
@gary11able 4 года назад
I wouldn't buy a sling shot from RTI
@joemoore4027
@joemoore4027 Год назад
Get what you pay for I guess.
@narcissistinjurygiver2932
@narcissistinjurygiver2932 4 года назад
cancel payment on your credit card
@AngryPandaMania
@AngryPandaMania 4 года назад
"I sound like Tim Pool" 😂
@MadMetalShop
@MadMetalShop Год назад
Looks like your batch was pre "uli telling the Ethiopians to stop wire wheeling parts" 🤷‍♂️🤣
@zeppelin5000
@zeppelin5000 4 года назад
I’ve never purchased from RTI, but they seem to be a shit company. Since all these Ethiopian rifles came in, every single review I’ve seen, except for ones on a lot of M1 Carbines, have been negative. They’re pretty much selling trash. The worst was their piece of crap K98’s that they were selling for $800....800!? I wouldn’t pay half that for what they were selling to people. Their descriptions seem to be vague, they only show photos of their best rifles in the bunch, and their owner seems to be a bullshit artist.... Sure, it’s not their fault the rifles are in such bad condition, but sometimes you just gotta pass shit up or sell them for what they really are, parts guns.
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 4 года назад
Put a copper strip in the bolt guide groove and built it back up with TIG weld, the copper won't weld and the groove won't have to be re cut.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Not everybody has a fucking TIG welder laying around, and the know-how to do it..........
@jarodcrazyindian
@jarodcrazyindian 6 месяцев назад
​@@MikeB128😂😂😂
@darrinclem2502
@darrinclem2502 4 года назад
I have a no4 mk2 that I sporterized about 30 years ago for hunting. I would like to put back to all military. I'll buy the wood from you if it's for sale
@mattm.3562
@mattm.3562 3 года назад
You can find no2mk2 wood from liberty tree collectors
@aretardridesmotard6128
@aretardridesmotard6128 4 года назад
Oh my! im open to the idea that living in a commonwealth country (aus), I may have it over the Americans for once. Theres a surprising number of these kicking around, in really lovely condition. Two of them in my safe ;)
@joedemp27
@joedemp27 4 года назад
Why not rebore to .410 the ones your not sure off
@tango1zero22
@tango1zero22 10 дней назад
Im finding much better Enfield's on Gunbroker sometimes cheaper with mirror bores. RTI is trying to act like your buying history from Ethiopia. They got stuck with junk and pushing them like well they will shoot. They will keyhole but it shoots. Sometimes you have to rebuild it to get that.
@rivera7878
@rivera7878 2 года назад
Ordered from them twice had to be the worst experience I’ve ever had because both times they sent me the wrong model of Lee Enfield I wanted a number for Mark one and both times I’ve ordered they sent Mark twos and this was a 2 month process
@bisonfan2572
@bisonfan2572 4 года назад
You got f#@$ed dude. Thanks for the video. Shouldn't have to pay shooter price for unsafe guns. Keep up the good work! Maybe ask for some lube with your next order?
@fdsdh1
@fdsdh1 4 года назад
I wonder where these things were stored, I'd guess outside!
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 4 года назад
Here’s a clip that shows the conditions they were stored in, the “goat barn” reference wasn’t an exaggeration for comedic effect on Mike’s part: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k3uXhLMUFeM.html
@fdsdh1
@fdsdh1 4 года назад
@@hobofactory ha omg, that explains a lot!
@CondavourTalksGuns
@CondavourTalksGuns 11 месяцев назад
Idk if you have parted the rifle out, but if you do i need a walnut fore-end like that :D
@seanm8665
@seanm8665 Год назад
Not that it will make a difference but I will never ever be doing business with RTI again and I’m praying that they go out of business so that they can no longer scam people. Of course consumer gotta cons00m them nasty Ethiopian milsurps.
@brianknight3750
@brianknight3750 Месяц назад
Looks like you could get a new barrel for a couple ofvthem and have a good shooter. That savage though i thinit DOA can't really repace the receiver and i would trust and welding on such a small part but you could use the sights and other parts to fox up your other ones.
@olveroliver52
@olveroliver52 4 года назад
Was considering getting an m48 from them but now not so much
@buckshot4428
@buckshot4428 4 года назад
That's pretty bad. I know some mixed rifles came in from Eithopia. They were in pretty bad shape.
@timboyle3114
@timboyle3114 4 года назад
sounds like these guys are about as trustworthy as sweaty ben! Been looking for an Enfield for a while, but IMHO will be waiting till I can inspect something in person.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Well them and sweaty Ben are old friends, so it doesn't surprise me.
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 Год назад
Thanks for the warning.Since I don't know much about the British rifles I'm going to stay away from them altogether.I hate to say it ...real heaps.😱
@thermitegrenade
@thermitegrenade 4 года назад
Their Romy AK kits are a crap shoot also I ordered 2 grade A kits from them 1 was in really good condition and the other was what was in worse condition than what I call a grade B kit, kit also had a broken gas tube retaining lever.
@heaven-is-real
@heaven-is-real 4 года назад
i paid extra for a grade A romy AK kit and got a grade B, that they scratched out the "B" and wrote "A" next to it (shady and dishonest)
@kukajin9560
@kukajin9560 4 года назад
Just when I thought I disliked rti for lying about reviews and stuff I’m on their website seeing FN Ethiopian rifles for 1000 dollars, 1924 and 1930 contracts alike and even a 1933 contract I’ve never heard of all labeled super rare. I bought my first Mauser last year that was a 1930 contract Chinese model for 250. I’m always seeing fn mausers for 2-300 and a thank you
@nicksmith2680
@nicksmith2680 4 года назад
They are actually super rare, and have never been imported before. Not all FN Mausers are equal in collectibility.
@maverickpaladin4155
@maverickpaladin4155 4 года назад
Who made rifles 3, 4, and 5? Also, were any of the Enfields counterbored, or was that just a Mosin thing? Thanks for the video.
@thepoorhunter2004
@thepoorhunter2004 4 года назад
I’ve had No1 MkIII’s made by Lithgow that had been counterbored. Both WWI dates of manufacture.
@micmacpole
@micmacpole Год назад
I rolled the dice on 2 Carcano carbines but have not received them yet. I am hoping one of the two will be a shooter. I already have a 1916 Carcano long rifle that is in need of a good bolt which is otherwise really nice. Only time will tell how my luck of the draw will turns out?
@ghalmarraz8706
@ghalmarraz8706 4 года назад
Let me get the furniture and hardware from that Savage
@capone5
@capone5 6 месяцев назад
They recently had these for 199. Made a video about it. It's not a prize pig but its decent for a range trip if you don't care about tight groupings.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 6 месяцев назад
I was more concerned about catastrophic failures, as I made another video about when I brought these out to the range.....
@Gregiorp
@Gregiorp 4 года назад
I've been wanting to get one of the Gew 88 from RTI. I would more than likely never shoot it but worry about get a piece of garbage cosmetically.
@sharpcookie791
@sharpcookie791 4 года назад
I got one of the carbines and the bore is trashed, but other than that it was in good shape, at least for its age.
@franciszeklatinik889
@franciszeklatinik889 4 года назад
@@sharpcookie791 Well, it is at least great for a wall hanger.
@deadfan-kl8xr
@deadfan-kl8xr 4 года назад
So I have learned not to buy guns from RT if you are a novice collector. What company would people recommend. I usually buy at gun shows. But of courses that is not going to happen for awhile.
@Mustang6971
@Mustang6971 3 года назад
do plenty of research i’ve been collecting for 2 years now i’m definitely not an expert but I don’t consider myself a novice, the biggest chance I took was I just bought a M1 carbine from midway usa and it paid off I got a pretty good inland, the rest i’ve bought in person or purchased from the CMP
@thegungooch639
@thegungooch639 4 года назад
Love enfields, just picked up a jungle carbine, 1945 BSA minty too. All matching including the mag. Thanks for the video Mike, you're the man
@towarzyszbeagle6866
@towarzyszbeagle6866 4 года назад
Mike you seem like a bloke who knows what he is doing but still I suggest completely strip those down and check for inspection markings before you shoot any of them. I wouldn't be surprised if you find DP (Drill Purpose Only) or ZF (Serious fault beyond repair) on them. In which case, not safe to shoot. Normally you'll see those clearly marked on the stock, collar or chamber but sometimes they can be stamped on the receiver below the wood or on the barrel itself. That rifle with POF front band probably has a warped receiver which is why the bolt is binding.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
They are not DP rifles.......And yes, I know the receiver is probably bent..
@luissantiago5163
@luissantiago5163 4 года назад
This will make for a nice watch. Nice
@brucewillis2542
@brucewillis2542 2 года назад
What are those bugs that are in so many RTI imports? Dead I know but still.....
@Purpmaster
@Purpmaster 4 года назад
I’d say you would be MUCH better off spending $500 to get one nice example, which will be shootable and will continue to go up in value.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
Gee, you don't say? Thanks Mr.! I had no idea about the value of surplus firearms. Too bad I was an idiot and rolled the dice to save other new collectors from wasting their money. Thanks for the advice!
@Purpmaster
@Purpmaster 4 года назад
Mike B This comment was not meant as advice to you, but to new collectors. It was interesting to see a sample of what you can get from RTI. I enjoyed the video. As a fellow 30 yr old dealer/collector, I’m used to people not taking me seriously or thinking they know way more than me lol, and that was not my intention.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
@@Purpmaster I get that, was just having a little fun for anyone who sees this comment in the future lol.
@Purpmaster
@Purpmaster 4 года назад
Mike B Ok good. I thought I pissed ya off of something lmao.
@allys537
@allys537 4 года назад
I just need furniture to "un-sportarize" my #5 Mk 1 Jungle carbine. OK shooter but it was ruined a bit ago, probably robbed for another gun.
@rb226r8
@rb226r8 4 года назад
Your best bet for the forestock and hanguard would be to modify No4 wood the butt is going to be a bear to find. Apex has all the meta bits you’ll need. I just finished mine a few months back well worth the work.
@shawnoandrew
@shawnoandrew 2 года назад
Sadly, the Ethiopian cache is more than likely the last of the Surplus we'll ever see imported.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 2 года назад
Agreed.
@Grunt-pr7od
@Grunt-pr7od 8 месяцев назад
I had one rebarreled and chambered for 45/70 whished i had kept it many times.
@jonlennon3348
@jonlennon3348 4 года назад
I would send them all back. I have a MK $ number 2 in the grease wrap.I have yet to take off the heavy cosmoline and wax paper. Absolutely new. I would stay away from some of the later imports mainly because they are really just parts rifles.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 года назад
What part of "No returns on these" and I knew that is hard to understand? I know they're shit, but me reaching more people so they don't get fucked was worth what I paid for them. It'll be just fine, will just take time to restore these and make 3 shooters.
@FallenUA23
@FallenUA23 4 года назад
sorry for dum question, but could you take parts from each rifle and build something that is just ok?
@sovietstarfishproductions5019
@sovietstarfishproductions5019 4 года назад
Artem Boiko you can but it could cause problems like head spacing being out of place
@sovietstarfishproductions5019
@sovietstarfishproductions5019 4 года назад
Which is why most of the time you’d just have it completely refurbished at an Arsenal
@redtra236
@redtra236 11 дней назад
@@sovietstarfishproductions5019 You can get a headspace gauge but yeah it definitely needs to be checked
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