Graeham Goble On Losing the Little River Band Name

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@dw6796 2 года назад

"Little River Band" is playing here in Michigan in 3 weeks. Tickets are 85.00+. Thought of taking my wife for anniversary, as they're her favorite band. Watched this video. Told her about it. We agreed that we wouldn't pay a single cent for these charlatans.

@tmnl8037 Год назад

The Fake Little River Band are being fraudulent and stealing money off unsuspecting fans and pay lots of money to see what they thing is the original band that had all the hits on the charts years ago. It’s fraud that they are allowed to do this and pretend to be impersonating others. They should be put in jail and fined heavily for committing fraud.

@markdp1983 Год назад

85 bucks to see a 2nd rate Tribute band? That's highway robbery..

@juan3zz Год назад

I love the Original Band as well. Thanks to you and your wife for Rebuking this Fraud of a band. What happened to the LRB is a major injustice, and this Fraud of a band should never be supported by anyone!

@Vegasshakenandstirred Год назад

They are my favorite band of all time, and I agree, I wouldn't give one cent to that jack wagon

@JamesBrown-dv4ve Год назад

Good choice. This was my favorite bank in the 70's along with the Eagles.

@CJ-pe5dl 2 года назад

As a fan and supporter of the original band from its beginnings, this is a crime of the utmost degree. Long live the original members of LRB, your music lives on in our hearts.

@craigedwards2940 Год назад

It's a reason to dislike Steve Housden that's for sure, but also Glenn Wheatley. He robbed them blind.

@lonestaroftejas Год назад

❤️

@2095yourstruly 3 года назад

THANK YOU for just letting this interview play out un-interrupted and letting Graham speak at length on this - it really serves the subject matter and the viewer to fully become ensconced.

@gordiesings 3 года назад

Yes. Thank you to John Beaudin for allowing Graeham Goble to tell the entire story, uninterrupted.

@geoffreybreasley9845 Год назад

They wouldn't done without Johnny Farnam

@tampalasan3787 3 года назад

‘Reminiscing’ is one of John Lennon’s favorite song, he said it’s perfect. I hope the original LRB members win back their rights.

@maxmery_drums 3 года назад

Im an Aussie, and I have been so disappointed with what has happened to this band. I hope they get to do a farewell concert as the original members, using the original name. They did a DVD Birtles Shorrock & Goble. I highly recommend it.

@Parrothed5150 3 года назад

Is it streamed anywhere?

@klyvemurray 3 года назад

@@Parrothed5150 Here ya go, mate 🦘🦘🦘 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xzVHb7W97JY.html .

@graciesmom1477 3 года назад

@@klyvemurray Thanks for this. Can't wait to llisten to it.

@justinthyme3396 3 года назад

Hi Max from Perth, yes I've watched that video a few times, LRB are timeless here in OZ. Keep safe mate during this virus crisis bye for now. 😎🎶🎵🎶🎵

@terrysteward 3 года назад

I had to import the DVD from Oz to the UK,I’m a huge fan of these guys

@Jaybird-zl9ve 3 года назад

He's absolutely correct! My wife and I went to see them at HOB in Myrtle Beach. It was horrible! We actually walked out just over halfway through. I kept waiting for it to get better, it didn't. I didn't find out until later that it wasn't the original band. Very disappointing.

@mike2webster 3 года назад

It infuriates me that I have to sift through the iTunes repertoire to find the original recordings. I wish the originals could just get the name back and tour! Very unfortunate circumstances. Travesty of justice.

@suezeeq 3 года назад

What happened to the original LRB was disgraceful. One of the worst stories I'm guessing to come out of the music industry.

@rolphwartieda2707 2 года назад

The combination of trust and deceit is shameful; that sob had it planned from way back, Only 1 LRB

@DiegoRamirez-zc7fs 2 года назад

I think Badfinger got taken advantage of in the most despicable way….and the LRB got nailed too.

@davidcarney1827 2 года назад

I agree with you. Unfortunately it happens to alot of bands. I love listening to early LRB.

@johnsergei 2 года назад

@@DiegoRamirez-zc7fs Indeed.

@reggates5205 Год назад

@@DiegoRamirez-zc7fs and the Easybeats

@MarleneGreen 2 года назад

WOW! Thanks a million for this detailed explanation by Graeham! It's sad and pitiful that the current owners of the name come from a space of scarcity that they're willing to do business and cheat fans of the original music and artists of the Little River Band. Personally, I had the same response when I heard the "American" version and went on a chase to find the original musicians and music. Thank God they're here on RU-vid. If it's any consolation to Graeham and the other original band members and songwriters, they should know that lifetime fans like me are "reminiscing" about their original music performance and delighted by their artistry. No.one can take that appreciation and adulation away from them! Nothing beats the original. Cheers!

@musicman4557 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing this and letting Graham share his story. I think it is almost criminal what has been done to the "Real" Little River Band. The American, "Fake" version is scheduled to be in my area, but after seeing this interview, I would not go see them if it was a free concert. I hope Graham, Glen and the others can get their name back because it is theirs!!

@jeffmitchell9863 2 года назад

It’s June, 2022..! My daughter whom is 30 loves the Little River Band catalog!! Loves it. 8 years ago she had tickets here in Ga-USA to see the Wayne Nelson’s tribute band using LRB’s name. She was extremely excited about the show and asked me to go because she knows how I love them. And I said, let me see what you have. I looked and said NO WAY!! I had seen the line up with Housden and asked what happened to Glen and Beeb. They told me that they quit. (I was the sound Eng then at the bar) When I told my daughter the story, and made her understand that she would be seeing a tribute band, aside from Wayne (The Night Olws guy), she trashed the tickets and said F them!! I agreed …..lol A few years later I downloaded BSG Live and gave her the CD as a gift. And told her HERE is the real LRB! She was in awe!!! Loved it!! I still have a hard time explaining what Graham is explaining here!! Thanks!!! We love you!!!! Your register is Amazing!!!! And your harmonies are untouchable!! Thank you Sir!!!!

@jeffmitchell9863 2 года назад

As a side note, Wayne was an incredibly nice guy. And I know of his tragedies!! But what he’s doing is WRONG!!!! And that in itself made me feel less empathetic to his personal hellish tragedy! He did that to me!! And that’s what I don’t like. Because that’s not me. Love and Peace!!

@williamrochelle9756 3 года назад

Wouldn't it be great to see the classic LRB lineup make it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? The Hall is notorious for excluding later members. Instant karma.

@allymayful 3 года назад

That would be a brilliant thing to lobby for.

@Vegasshakenandstirred Год назад

Hell yeah but Steven owns the name so they would have to include him 😭

@phildavenport4150 Год назад

@@Vegasshakenandstirred Maybe not. Worth consulting a lawyer who specialises in this stuff. Love to see Housden totally ignored, thieving prick.

@stevenkypraios4244 2 года назад

Graeme, Glen , Beeb, there is no confusion about LRB in Australia, nobody can possibly mistake that sound. Fist heard Emma on the radio aged 7. Now I’m 55 and I still can’t get your songs out of my head. Saw you at billboard nightclub Melbourne as a young teen(VIP booth). John Farnham playing to win. Couldn’t believe anyone could sound like that live. I agree with the interviewer- the current lineup would have to produce a miracle to do well in Aus. Australian cultural icons all for the love of music. Your songs are immortal. They can’t take that away…. from you…

@iang1 3 года назад

Speaks volumes for respect, dignity, decency and honesty

@vudhichaiswintara2874 Год назад

Love and Respect the original band...Always..will never changed

@normanhatcher7945 3 года назад

ROCK N' ROLL IS SUCH A VICIOUS GAME. It's a shame how many managers took advantage of their meal ticket.

@moniphil 3 года назад

It’s full of greedy SOBs.

@garychambers5850 3 года назад

The group "Badfinger" as an example. Their managers tole all the money the band had made from their albums and their biggest hit "Day After Day" Two of the top singers and songwriters of the band "Pete Ham" and Tom Evans" both hung themselves! How tragic..

@dadduorp 3 года назад

I have no regrets leaving the music business back in the early 1980's. The amount of sharks and opportunists-never mind the egotistical asshole "artists" I encountered-made it an easy decision for me. Seems there's a well-documented history of con and rip-off artists who've taken advantage of young and/or business-ignorant musicians from the very beginning. And then you have fellow bandmates getting greedy and turning on each other down the line. Musicians I know who stuck it out and continued and even some who "made it big" aren't faring so well these days. In today's "music business" climate, artists either have to have start out with their own legal team and marketing plan with the music and creativity aspect being secondary. Maybe that's why what passes as "music" these days is canned, formulaic garbage. Gone is the Art.

@ariesred777 2 года назад

Totally agree The world has gone corporate but people are tiring of these greedy opportunists The colours are dull artificial and superficial

@jefftaylor844 3 года назад

I loved the original, classic line-up - still do - always will. It's criminal what was done to those guys.

@stevo378 3 года назад

One of my all time favorite bands. My wife and I were dating and then married in 1978 and Reminiscing was and is our song. This is such a sad situation and didn't need to happen. I did hear the other Little River Band a few years back and learned it wasn't the original group or lead singer but I didn't know the history until now. This is an awesome explanation of it. Thanks for doing the interview and posting it.

@foresterram869 3 года назад

My favorite band and finally an explanation I can understand. Read Beeb Birtles memoir and his explanation left me thinking, how stupid can you be to let that happen. Graham’s explanation helps me to see how it did happen.

@georgebarry8640 3 года назад

I don't intend to be more hurtful to these musicians who gave Us so much...but re-think your tag line re: Beeb Birtles..maybe it also applies to Graeham. A fellow Aussie,Rick Springfield says in his book that early on he learned from an old hand "Never let anyone else deposit the checks", to paraphrase. It left a strong impression on him. Rick (who knows Beeb) admits publicly he has made a ton of mistakes in life, but so far, by all accounts, he still owns his name.

@silverlight2004db 3 года назад

Interesting because this interview is the first time ive heard about any of this...i bought several LRB records back in the 70s/80s...and i think the same thing...how stupid can you be to let that happen...

@davidmccarthy6390 3 года назад

@@georgebarry8640 They know each other well, Rick and Beeb were in Zoot together.

@davec3901 2 года назад

Nowadays you need a lawyer to check your lawyer's work.

@raythompson.6137 Год назад

I think the Manager may be at fault here. I don't know all the details but Graeham said he received a 1% deal. We'll never know as I believe sadly he has passed on. I would have thought that the stakeholders would have granted the original LRB members a farewell tour of Australia. I guess the BSG concert is the best we are going to get. I loved it.

@vstrangejames 3 года назад

In a world where legacy is the real currency and what you leave behind for generations to admire is all that truly matters, Housden and Nelson with be regarded poorly. Glen, Graeham Beeb and Derek are Australian Living National Treasures and their place in Australian rock History is set in stone.

@SecretAgentPaul 3 года назад

They should call themselves "The Stephen Housden's a Little Turd Band"

@kurtmorris454 3 года назад

or the Little River Band imposters.

@PatrickRosenbalm 3 года назад

Little River Cover Band is more like it.

@markgroves4322 3 года назад

Or The Stephen Housden Rip-off Band. How do those guys live with themselves - anything for the almighty dollar.

@davidnapasney7516 3 года назад

@@markgroves4322 I'm guessing whenever the asswholes look in their bank books it makes it quite easy.

@avlisk 3 года назад

Thanks for the heads-up on the LRB Greatest Hits having been re-recorded by the faux river band. One expects the "greatest hits" to be the actual recordings. The Little River Band was, is, and will always be an Aussie band!

@alanmurphy6373 3 года назад

Interesting interview. Love the in depth of just what happened. I had the complete wrong story as to why they lost the name. I lived in Australia for 2 years, the US LRB would get lynched down under

@allymayful 3 года назад

You are right!!!! Can’t imagine that they would be so idiotic.

@SimonFoster23111971 Год назад

I'd probably buy a ticket to see that happen!

@LiquidAudio Год назад

Mate you are doing such great work with these interviews, especially this series on LRB. Just re-watching this two years on and it’s a great interview. What happened with LRB is disgraceful, we will always love the real LRB here in Aus.

@johnrudzinski3217 3 года назад

I'm in Melbourne Australia. This band was talented with some of the best musicians out there. There was no screaming vocalist and overdriven amps with pretty simple guitar playing.The Lady guitar solos with David Briggs are possibly my favourite from any band. Never get tired of hearing LRB. The best Aussie music export period. The business side of bands really suck. LRB, CCR and Tom Petty got shafted with the management and record companies.

@blindkimberly1360 3 года назад

This reaffirms what I’ve learned over the last 6 years. Don’t trust anyone. Ever. 😔

@wayneross9941 3 года назад

The current line up should be called The Little River Cover Band and relinquish the original name back to the original founding members Graeham Goble, Beeb Birtles, Glenn Shorrock, Derek Pellicci, George McArdle and David Briggs and let them enjoy the royalties and the fame they so richly deserve. I have been a massive fan of the original band since I first heard the opening riff of Curiosity Killed The Cat on radio way back in 1975 and from then on I was hooked and bought every Album they made on the day they were released . In my opinion the real reason why the current line up won't let them tour under the guise of The Original Little Little River Band is they fear they will be found out as the imposters that they really are. The roots of the Little River Band were sewn back in 1972 when Graeham Goble formed a band known as Mississippi and released a great song called "Kings Of The World" (check it out on UTUBE) and with revolving door of musicians coming and going they eventually evolved into The Little River Band and the original songs are still as fresh today as when they were released all those years ago.

@davidmccarthy6390 3 года назад

The original band had Rick Formosa and Roger McLachlan, Briggs and McArdle joined after they left after the first 2 albums.

@allenjones5525 3 года назад

@@davidmccarthy6390 Yep i was going to mention that and there is a clip from GTK of the original lineup doing Its A Long Way There with Rick and Roger in it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x6iiS8hQRAI.html

@blueycarlton 3 года назад

In 2013 my wife and I were touring around the western mountain states in the US. In the back roads of Arizona we stopped to refuel our hire car. The servo was in the middle of nowhere near an Indian reservation. While filling, I saw across the road tied to a fence, a banner flapping in the wind. The banner was announcing that LRB was playing there next week! I took a photo and thought what would the original members think of that. A very sad situation. I used to watch LRB at the Station Hotel in Prahran Vic. before they hit the big time.

@371ronny 2 года назад

Coincidently met my wife @ the iconic Station Hotel watching LRB ( mi 'ol stomping ground back in the day)...after 45yrs she hasn't left...silly girl. All to their own, but my fave line up was with Formosa smashing it on his SG

@nigethejedimaster 3 года назад

I'm so grateful to see / hear Graeham's perspective and versions of events; as I come to watch this video having only heard the briefest of explanations about this matter previously from Shorrock interviews. Listening to Graeham speak, I think it's another glowing example of Glenn Wheatley's capacity to completely f¢u# over an agreement and anyone associated with it. It's amazing to me that in Wheatley's complete incompetence and mismanagement he was still capable of legally awarding himself a profitable settlement to the exclusion of the other parties - the original band members. Whilst Wheatley's contributions to the success of John Farnham and Whispering Jack is well documented and the praise and recognition for this is well deserved; he has also been at the core of some of the most disastrous decisions and consequences ever kept out of the collective consciousness and public's mind. The intentional hurt and harm caused to the original members of the band is just criminal.

@allymayful 3 года назад

Ditto

@tubester4567 2 года назад

Glenn Wheatley died today (1 Feb 2022) of covid.

@deandrebit601 Год назад

With the multitudes of comments for this interview it is easily obvious that people care and love about the real pioneers, founders, original members whole heartedly, I mean if you live on Planet Earth you cannot avoid growing up with little river band material it circles the globe!!! The sincerity of this man Graeham Goble and his passion to do the right thing resonates in anyone who can clearly see the truth in this matter, in-exsorable as I like to call it, means you can't stop it, or unstoppable, the truth just comes out and every faithful fan can acknowledge that Graeham is trying very hard to respectfully deliver this to the world and his homework is done very well...

@bobmazzola6089 3 года назад

I totally loved LRB, such talented musicians from Australia! I still have the original vinyl albums. Looks like I better hold on to them! God Bless the original members. I believe God will make it right for them someday!

@neilforbes416 3 года назад

This is a good argument *AGAINST* group names being registered as trademarks. And Glen Wheatley has a lot to answer for as well.

@JoelR777 2 года назад

He died ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t6GZr0ci8Nk.html

@tommyaloha9472 3 года назад

Thank you Graeham for that explanation. For years I wondered how Little River Band can perform without any of the original members. I can't believe that could happen and wonder why people would pay good money to see the current lineup. They are getting ripped off. Loved the band, love the songs. Your harmonies were so great, something you no longer hear in music today. Lonesome Loser is my favorite song. :)

@Piggy-Oink-Oink 3 года назад

I met The LRB in NYC in 1990 and their tour manager letme do an on camera interview but I made the mistake of asking "Is Graeham here? he said NO. I said- is BEEB? NO. Is John Farnham. "NO. But you can talk to Wayne, Glenn and Stephen. Catch up with the Times mate" "lol

@o.b.v.i.u.s 3 года назад

they should just tour as the Rittle Liver Band... problem solved...

@erichoberg3502 3 года назад

I rike it.

@davidnapasney7516 3 года назад

They cannot legally use the name,have you not been listening.

@coolcat6303 3 года назад

@@davidnapasney7516 He changed the order of the names which is funny. But knowing how stupid the laws are, the original members would probably still get sued.

@hv1225 3 года назад

@@davidnapasney7516 Read what wrote again...

@richardfrancis1515 3 года назад

Great interview John! What a tragic story.

@jeffrockit 2 месяца назад

Love your channel John! As a 41 year veteran of the music business, on the production/engineering side, it is still great to hear these stories although the LRB one is truly sad.

@johnmorrell 3 года назад

If you are a young person getting into the music business you owe it to yourself to watch and learn from this. This could save your future and life.

@MournfulMystic 3 года назад

As an Aussie I'm so angry about this.. the USA version knows they'd be hated in Australia if they ever tried to tour here.. that's why they don't

@ronnelson7828 3 года назад

The original members should tour as "The Band from Little River" or something similar. Greed and lawyers bugger up everything.

@ladystrange7791 3 года назад

This American is pretty upset & wouldn’t be running out to see them now that I have heard this. Little River Band, the REAL Little River Band, gave me some of my first memories of hearing music around 4 years old. I’m in my 40’s & still play those songs. I hope these legends are given the respect they deserve by returning the band’s name where it belongs. Thank you Graeham & the rest of the band for all the wonderful music you gave us.

@ykook7000 3 года назад

@@ronnelson7828 I've always thought they should take the piss and call themselves The Small Stream band or The Small Lake band and most real fans could see through the play on words 🤣

@scottmcgregor562 3 года назад

@@ykook7000 hell. Why not call themselves The Original Little River Band.

@billslocum9819 3 года назад

It's a long vid but worth it for anyone who cares about this band's legacy and what was done to them. It's a case of abusing the law for a bad cause, and a business manager having no shame.

@JulesFox 3 года назад

Very interesting interview ... thank you for giving Graeham the platform for explaining this. What an amazing band and quite tragic for them to lose the right's to their own band name. What a disappointing set of circumstances ...

@CalVid 3 года назад

Hey John, in my 1985 post of Reminiscing live ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XDu3H9GZN98.html with the original members before break-up I mention LRB's history about name ownership. The video is allowed due to the original songwriters present. Your good interview delves into more interesting details. I filmed the iconic songs by the current LRB at their Malibu 2016 concert but received a copyright strike from the song publisher. They explained: "The band that you recorded playing as ‘Little River Band’ contains none of the original members of the group, and they do not have any rights in the musical works that you recorded and uploaded." "The writers of those works, Graeham Goble and Glenn Shorrock, are deeply concerned that their significant musical legacy is being adversely impacted by the current performers, and have requested that we take down any footage of them performing musical works written by the original members of LRB that are controlled by Warner/Chappell." I resolved the takedown by agreeing to delete that performance from my channel.

@MrMrtapeguy 3 года назад

As an American, I’m ashamed of what these people have done to BSG. They should call them the Little Rip-off Band. The real LRB is one of the most underrated bands of all time and vocally unsurpassed. I know the law protects the charlatans and it makes me sick. Burton Cummings and the Guess Who have a similar situation and every time I see one of them touring I do my best to let people know it’s a cheap imitation.

@pyr8dude781 3 года назад

Little River Band has always been one of my favorite bands. It hurts to hear that some of my fellow Americans could treat them so badly. The Aussie's will always be Little River Band and the American imposters will never live up to their legacy.

@steveparker5406 Год назад

Housden owns the name and is actually Australian. He’s the one responsible who is making a buck and while it can be viewed that he’s screwing over his Aussie compatriots, everyone left the band. The American musicians are doing what any musician would do if met with a lucky gig - tour and get paid; the legacy is not their business. Can’t fault them for that - the originals all bowed out and signed away everything. It’s not their fault that the originals aren’t in the band and signed crappy deals. They’re not “treating anyone badly.”

@chazman74 3 года назад

Thank you for this explanation from Graeham. I have been trying to find out how the original members lost the name. I couldn't figure out why they all left...makes sense now. What doesn't make sense is how its legal for the name to be stolen in effect by Glenn Wheatley.

@bryanvanroyal9996 3 года назад

Shame they couldn't take the Yes approach and have 2 versions of the band at the same time. Would have loved to see BSG: The Original Little River Band or BSG Performs the music of Little River Band. My wish would've been to see the Time Exposure band do a reunion tour. Everyone knows the true originators of the heavenly LRB harmonies. Great to hear from Australia's finest songwriter! Cheers Graeham!

@georgebarry8640 3 года назад

Yes's UNION was a result of a name dispute:true. But the origin of doing that was the record-labels. It was NOT an Organic process, for sure.

@chazman74 3 года назад

Agree. Difference is Jon Anderson didn't get screwed over like Graeham and the other originals by a former manager. And Jon didn't even know he could use the name at first as they were touring as ARW...

@mtradz Год назад

YES died with Chris..

@lepxs 3 года назад

Great Honest Interview!

@welshieallovertheplace 3 года назад

It'd be fantastic if you could get Wayne Nelson on for an interview; to his credit he's never been one to shy away and always seems completely happy to discuss LRB as it is now.

@richardcollacchi351 2 года назад

nelson is a complete asshole he is making money off somebodies history

@fortheloveofmusic7786 3 года назад

Breaks my heart. Changes my desire to see the impersonators at a concert for sure! Glad I was informed!

@knight2425 3 года назад

So Glen Wheatley screwed everyone over? Surely a good legal team would be able to mount a case that the original members were duped and taken advantage of and mount a good case that the original member are and have the right to the name. The legal system is full of crap that screws honest people and favours the shocks that know how to play the game

@chrisschrecker5497 3 года назад

What are terrible tragedy. I presume this type of fair play underhandedness is common in the music industry. Didn’t a similar scenario occur with the Guess Who? Kale snd company presenting themselves as the Guess Who without the involvement of Cummings/Bachman? Great interview John!!

@georgebarry8640 3 года назад

Right. Exactly, the original guys never bothered to trademark/copyright the name. They left the Intellectual property aspect unguarded and the bassist (IIRC) went to the registraar ,filled out the paperwork and owns the name.

@dgtwo3724 3 года назад

Yes, if I'm not mistaken, Jim Kale got the trademark for The Guess Who name in the early 80's when he happened to learn no one owned it. He did this without knowledge of the other members ans this was at a time before bands and their members were not aware of trademark issues as they are today. It's a shady thing to do.

@77barrymac 3 года назад

I think Cummings and Bachman both acknowledge that they screwed up by letting Kale register The Guess Who trademark under his name, which he did in 1977, I think. I saw that lineup in '79, knowing who was and wasn't in the band at the time, and it was...okay. Which was all it was going to be with no Bachman, Cummings, or Kurt Winter. At least Jim Kale was an original member. Stephen Housden came in at the tail end of the hits.

@davep3148 Год назад

Been a fan since the late ‘70’s, and saw them live in 1980. That lineup is LRB to me and will always be. No other lineup counts in my world.

@TheTop40hub 3 года назад

Whenever the imposter band come through town a I always tell people there are no original members in this American band.

@rcubed888 3 года назад

Well done Son.

@johnparkerreed5712 3 года назад

If what he is saying is true that’s pretty sad!! Corporate greed at its best!

@georgebarry8640 3 года назад

In this specific cases...sounds more like musicians being inattentive to their livelihood. If you want to talk about greedy corporations, there is no shortage of examples..but fwiw, I think this isn't one of them. But I hear ya. It stinks,for sure.

@fredstriker2042 3 года назад

There's been documentaries made about this. It's true

@drsimple 3 года назад

It drives me crazy when my friends say, “Oh, I saw the Little River Band last summer!” Uh... not really! If you can, get your hands on the Birtles Shorrock Goble DVD from 2003.

@welshieallovertheplace 3 года назад

I'll be honest, I've always been on the 'you sold the name' side of the fence. Graeme, however, comes across as a very honest and genuine guy who is completely frustrated by the whole situation and how a little naivety probably got him into it. Glenn Shorrock, on the other hand, portrays himself as a very bitter old man in all the interviews I've seen and I think Graeme may have his the nail on the head as to why on this very interview. In 1997 Glenn Shorrock knew that the company had value because it owned the trademark, yet he still sold his share. It appears to me that he realises he made a mistake, in fact a HUGE f**k up but won't admit it, but deflects the blame away from himself. He constantly bleets on about how the name was stolen etc. Graeme Goble speaks very candidly and in a completely matter of fact manner about the whole situation making it much clearer than I've ever heard it explained before. Thank you for this. My opinion of Glenn Shorrock hasn't changed, but my opinion Graeme Goble has done a great deal.

@chazman74 3 года назад

I agree about Glenn Shorrock. I still don't understand why they felt secure in leaving the band. Graeham said he thought the band was going to end when he left. Despite that, the originals should still have rights to the name.

@allymayful 3 года назад

@@chazman74 and their music!!!

@williamaiken9262 3 года назад

I saw the LRB open for the Eagles and Heart at the Yale Bowl in 1980. They held their own as well as the audience's attention at a huge gig where the crowd came to see the headliners. Sad to see how the band's business reps deprived its original members of legal ownership. A valuable lesson for any band; have a trusted attorney read what's in your contract before you sign off on it.

@tammyboykin5285 2 года назад

Oh my God sounds like a once in a lifetime amazing concert you're so lucky

@groverbaker6404 3 года назад

LRB!! still on my turntable for over 40 years! Awesome band!!

@scottmcgregor562 3 года назад

This was very informative. I am glad to see some longer time content on RHN.

@bobolin9708 3 года назад

Thanks for revealing the true back story. What a shame the original members got screwed.

@dvdspank1 2 года назад

Thanks John! A lot of respect for Graham Goble for this precise explanation. I believe the fortunate ownership of the LRB name comes with an obligation. Which includes respect to the guys who made it so valuable in the first place.

@juliawalsh7934 2 года назад

Boy oh boy. I had no idea all of this had taken place. It reminds me of what happened to Grand Funk Railroad. It is like stolen valor in the military. How a person can take credit for the origins of a band that they really have no respectful right to take credit for is sickening and wrong. It may be legal, but that doesn't make it right in a lot of LRB fans' eyes. Thank you for explaining how all this went down

@leannwunderlich8311 Год назад

I was very fortunate to be at soundcheck in Portland, Oregon in the 70's. Beeb sang Ballerina to my daughter. I spent time in the US with the originals for many years. I wondered what happened. Thank you.

@mattrixx_audio 2 года назад

Thank you so much for sharing this. It's such a sad story that I know many have been devastated by. There's nothing like the original . FU Steve H ..and Graham.. I know how this gets you.. no matter the differences along the way in the 80s

@azbluefox Год назад

After watching this, I went on Spotify, and 'sure enough' you can hear the "FAKE' band playing the Little River Band songs. I'm 71 years old and I know their songs VERY WELL and I can hear 'off notes' in the voices and instruments on all songs listed on Spotify. I couldn't stand to listen to even 1/4 of each song knowing it's [not] them.!! I'm so upset with all of this.

@berliner0 3 года назад

God bless graham and the others stay safe

@VHFan5150 8 месяцев назад

I have been a fan of LRB since the beginning of the band. I’m so sorry for what happened to you Graeham and the other members who were screwed over. I vow to never see the cover band ever! I will just play my original vinyl records I bought we they were first released. Thank you for the great music and memories you made.❤

@davidcarney1827 2 года назад

Thanks for the in depth breakdown of what happened to this great band.

@CMPProductions 3 года назад

It’s such a shame the original band can’t tour because of the name issue. I’ve been wanting to see the band live in the US for years but I guess I’ll never get that chance. What incredible songs and chemistry Graeham, Beeb, Glenn and the others have. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and at least a one off farewell show can happen. Thanks Graeham and John.

@jeremyscaggs7315 3 года назад

I remember seeing this American version of the band in 05-06. I talked to Wayne Nelson after the show. I knew LRBs music but didn't know the names of the original members. I asked him if any members were original. He said no they all retired years ago. But that he was in the band since 1980. I feel sick now knowing that these guys are reeping the benefits off the original members blood, sweat and tears. I really hope you guys get your name back.

@thomaspick4123 3 месяца назад

Poor Graeham and the original members. It has happened many times. The Beach Boys, Styx, The Little River Band, The Byrds, Three Dog Night, The Eagles. Songs too. The Beatles Northern Songs sold, McCartney said, why should he have to pay millions of dollars to get his songs back which he wrote for free? Mike Love got screwed by Murray Wilson. Matthew Fisher. On and on. The lawyers are wicked. Housman and Nelson are immoral. Thanks for all the great music and harmonies Graeham. Beautiful music.

@rickstorm1044 3 года назад

That is a real crappy thing to do to the original members of the band I'm sorry but how could you not now what your doing... It's quite a crying shame

@johnfarnhamexperience 3 года назад

Such a huge tragedy... I don't get it either... why wouldn't you let them call themselves 'The Original Little River Band'... I don't see the problem... The legacy that Graham Goble has is unbelieveable... what a man!!! What a talent!!!! Such a shame that it's led to this... great interview, looking forward to the next one mate...

@TheBaconeaterz Год назад

Comes down to GREED

@saltifish 3 года назад

Wheatley would have known what was going to happen as the members left leaving a bigger share to split between only 2 people and he must of known about the trade mark registration but chose not to tell anyone about it. Would like to hear wheatley's explanation.

@lasentinal 3 года назад

From Wikipedia... In July 2007, Wheatley pleaded guilty to charges of tax evasion and faced the possibility of up to 16 years in jail.[1] On 19 July 2007, he was sentenced in the County Court to 30 months jail, with a minimum of 15 months to be served. In order to reduce his sentence he informed on his lawyer "to save his own skin".[8] "I'm ashamed of what I have done", Wheatley said in court. "It was something that I have regretted for a long, long time and I'm ashamed of what I've brought on my family, who have had to suffer a lot."[9] During the trial, many high-profile Australians presented character references for Wheatley, including John Farnham, Sydney Swans' chairman Richard Colless and entertainer Bert Newton. One reference, from army general Peter Cosgrove, described Wheatley as a "very honest and upright person".[9] However, Commonwealth prosecutor Richard Maidment, SC, said "The fraud that was instigated (by Wheatley) can be described as sustained and sophisticated. Tax fraud is not to be seen as a victimless crime."[9] Wheatley was released from Beechworth Correctional Centre on 19 May 2008, and was moved to home detention with electronic surveillance for the remainder of his sentence.[10] Wheatley completed his detention on 18 October 2008 and immediately left for an overseas holiday.[11] On 14 May 2010, Wheatley was charged with drink driving after recording a blood alcohol level of 0.08 by a random breath testing unit in Rushcutters Bay, New South Wales. He faced Waverley Court on 9 June 2010 and pleaded guilty. His licence was suspended for six months and he received an $850 fine.[12]

@dashmax7780 3 года назад

I would like to hear Wheatley’s story also. I’m not sure noting his drink driving charge at .08 is relevant though, nor even his tax evasion.. although maybe the latter played a part?

@phildavenport4150 Год назад

@@dashmax7780 Do you guys really want to hear anything self-serving that Wheatley is likely to offer?

@loveiseternity 9 месяцев назад

You'll need a psychic cos he's dead.

@williamweston6771 3 года назад

Shouldn't the responsibility for the situation be addressed by Glenn Wheatly (either company or estate) as it was his legal position to carry out due diligence as the bands manager to represent the financial interests of the original LRB. The fact that he was able to assign himself 1% point of the new entity only reinforces the fact the there was a financial opportunity in the transfer of title.

@jamestejada3673 2 года назад

Sadly he recently passed away due to Covid, 19.

@glennsuckling5478 3 года назад

Lets hope Steve lets the original members do what they would like to do..

@klausfahnle1925 2 месяца назад

Watched Shorrock on the weekend.. at 80 he’s as good as ever.. We know who you are ! You could tour in Aus as “ Wrong way to back”you would sell out the stadium..

@meggarippleeffect8098 3 года назад

Point the finger at Glen Wheatley, he wasn't jailed for tax fraud for nothing. All he was interested in was John Farnham who he got into LRB as vocalist at Shorrock's expense as a launching board for his solo career.

@leglessinoz 3 года назад

John Farnham had a solo career long before LRB existed.

@vegaslimoguy2376 2 года назад

@@leglessinoz Yeah? And name some hits he had. He was a flash in the pan.

@Neil-Aspinall 3 года назад

A cautionary tale.

@itdadof3 3 года назад

I was going to see the Little River Band back in 2020 but it was cancelled due to Covid. I am extremely happy that I didnt go

@ClassicVideos80s 3 года назад

Glen Wheatley stuffed up big time. Also never sign any contract without reading it.

@miket.220 3 года назад

If you purchase any music to download, make show you preview before buying. LRB is far from the only group being shafted with re-recorded versions for sale on iTunes or Amazon instead of the original recording.

@Sunnahiman Год назад

This is sad that this happened to your group. I appreciate your history and just discovered your other songs I love. Cool change is soooooo beautiful and this song I relate to so much that it bring tears to my eyes. God blessings I don't know about the evildoers who did this but I believe that God will see assure justice ❤ From the USA 🇺🇸 African American woman 50s generation fan.

@jeremyscaggs7315 3 года назад

This would tick me off sooooo much if I lost my band name. Especially since I came up with it. And lose all my music too. To someone else. I just added LRB to my spotify. Now I want to take them off there. This is heartbreaking

@ashleygeisler1003 3 года назад

Very sad story

@fredstriker2042 3 года назад

I am so glad you're finally getting the story out there John! Such a shame what happened to them. I'm sure he's dancing around legal wording. Long story short, that bass player stole the band from them because they didn't have the rights protected

@chazman74 3 года назад

No offense it wasn't the bass player. Wayne Nelson doesn't own the name. Steve Housden the lead guitarist owns it. Sounds like Glenn Wheatley the former manager screwed the original members...

@johnlangemusic 3 года назад

Another sad story from the halls of rock music. You have to be so careful what you sign, and who you associate with...I've found that out as well!

@johnlarocca3951 3 года назад

What a sad story I genuinley feel for graeme snd the Original band.

@magnuswettermark8293 3 года назад

This is a shame! A great band who deserve so much more. The new version is a fuckin joke PERIOD.

@edwindavies875 3 года назад

There are tribute acts galore all over the U.S. and other countries, I presume. Sooo many imitation acts covering the songs and even dressing up and pretending to be The Beatles, ABBA, Neil Diamond, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Bee Gees and on and on. Many tribute acts are very good at what they do and can be entertaining, but they do not advertise or present themselves as the actual and original artists. You know when you buy the ticket that you’re getting an imitation. The shysters, counterfeit, rip-off “artists” and legal representation that deceptively commandeered the Little River Band brand ought to be ashamed! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t make it ethical. What a travesty!

@hv1225 3 года назад

Imagine making a living of playing in that live band, hating the OG band but surviving by playing their hits. What kind of musicians are they?

@joethompson2910 3 года назад

As a musician of over 50 years myself, I saw the LRB around 1979 or so, and they were absolutely incredibly good... and Im a critic. There is NO WAY those guys could be reproduced like I saw the original guys at that time. They kicked ass! I remember being particularly impressed with the fact that they all had small amplifiers on stage but their sound was just incredibly huge so apparently the sound man knew what the hell he was doing with those guys!

@keithmurch7062 Год назад

The sound guy was Ern Rose I think live and they carried two sound techs one for vocals Ern and the other for the band.Sound check at the Opera house in Sydney is still talked about when it was only the vocals first and added the band into the mix.Angels was touted as to their vocals.

@dalewhite4759 21 день назад

Saw em in 79 .. the real deal then ..they could hit the mics on harmony and raise goosebumps

@geminidreamno2 2 года назад

I have heard versions of this story for years. It's a major thorn in my side, as I have been a LRB fan since their beginning. I have had fights with friends who were friends of Wayne's, when I corrected them for saying that his band was LRB and I corrected them and said it was a cover band who stole their name. I never got to see LRB live because of this issue and them not coming to America. And that bugs me. And especially when the fake LRB comes to town and of course I want to hear the music live, but refuse to pay big bucks for a cover band.

@tammyboykin5285 2 года назад

They can't possibly sound the same at the original band

@dianemorris5816 3 года назад

In 77 or 78 I saw them in Toronto Canada, with Trooper and the Eagles

@kellycopeland227 2 года назад

The name should be given back to the original band. It is so shady and disgusting how people just steal songs and names and history from music icons. Ridiculous!! I will never see or listen to any music from the other band. I pray one day they get everything back. God willing. Love you guys. You were the best part of my teenage years and your music always brings back smiles and love and I love reminiscing. Peace and blessings ❤️