I'm an 18 year old with a 1999 Mercury Grand Marquis with 55,000 miles and I love it. People like the car and it's different from what others have in the parking lot. lol
You have some great technology in cars these days but you really have to go back in time for good build quality. Just bought a 2011 CVPI and I love it. Nothing else like them on the road today!
@@stevomcsteve9492 lexus and Toyota is better than Ford in every way shape and form. And ls400 will last longer and take more abuse then a crown vic. But I still love my grand marquis.
@@stevomcsteve9492 my uncle had one he kept for 20 years then he put 28s on it and it was nice but now it rusted it doesn’t run no more and engine blew up so he trying to rebuild it
I found a Crown Vic with 57,000 for $1,900. It looks like a brand new car inside and out, even underneath. I hope to get years of service out of it as well.
I’m 18 and I’m proud to have a 2000 marquis LS as my first and only car. 235hp V8 cruises like a boat on calm water. Huger interior with the leather bench seats fits all my friends comfortably. Weeks upon weeks of being out every night with them. Damn good room for me and my girlfriend after everyone else has been dropped off. Had the best summer of my life with that car I love it to death. I always wanted an old P71 interceptor throughout high school and this turned out to be all that and more and I wasn’t even expecting it. My mom bought it for $700 from my brother in law for a graduation/birthday gift and I’m beyond grateful. I plan on keeping this thing forever just to restore it when I’m older to have a future classic of my own from my day. Beautiful car with the best memories I ever made.
I have a 01 Grand Marquis LSE......Floor shifter, bucket seats, HPP package, Air ride, true dual exhaust. It was the precursor to the Marauder. Bought it for $2500. Dude thought it was just an LS. The LSE wasn’t badged and just said LS on the trunk plate. Soon as I saw the Shifter in the console I knew !!!
I’ve owned my 03 grand mar for over 11 years. Bought it with 44k on it now has 172k and still going strong. Done a couple intake manifolds but other than that she’s been a trooper. I love it! By the way I’m 31 now and I’ve driven her hard, takes the beating. Best car ford ever made!
My 03 p71 has been amazing, I bought it at 196k miles and now it’s at about 202k miles. Still runs like a dream. Just do normal maintenance on it and it’ll last you a really long time. Kinda lucked out bc I bought it from a detective
I'm thinking the same thing. Wondering how many cop parts fit the Merc? Maybe swap some out as needed for upgrades. Oil cooler, shocks, computer? Exhaust upgrades without getting loud?
I just bought a 1999 Mercury Grand Marquis as my 1st car with 52,000 miles on it for $5000. I'm 18 driving a car that's older than me and the old man who owned it took such good care of it.
Just ppicked up my third one. A 2000 marquis LS from naples, FL. Totally spotless. Great cars. If you go to look at one check for coolant leaks on the manifold. Mine had a small leak from the coolant return line under the manifold. Great cars though. Very reliable, parts are cheap and they are easy to work on.
i was in tha market for a car. Growing up a Ford fan, I wanted a Vic. I went to buy one off letgo and it turned out to be tha Marquis LS. "Oh yea, this'll do"
Mercury Grand Marquis without question. Old style landau roof, sunroof, leather seats, plush carpets & wood. I'd rather get there in comfort. Drive it carefully, maintain it well & you have a cheap luxury car for years.
Thats what I was about to say. To my understanding theres no difference other than external lights that dont match up. But all the internals can be swapped...
He said they both have the same engine, so I think it's implied but the pigs ride has different tuning, air intake is larger and a tougher transmission. I live in California so everything good about these engines is ruined by smog laws
I have a 2005 crown Vic police interceptor with 136,000 and it runs great and the ride is firm but very smooth you can't even feel the bumps in it it's a really nice riding car.
Proud owner of 1999 Mercury grand Marquis’s for 8 years now I love my car it’s been good to me in my family bout to start fixing it up a lil more smooth ride
Just bought an 03 LX Sport for $2,200, and found out the frame has rust holes, and can't be inspected. Pick up my 11 MGM Ultimate on Monday, it's bittersweet having such a nice panther as a lawn ornament/parts car. Silver MGM with dark charcoal leather and a floor shifter will make it worthwhile.
That's Tires Doing That .... Don't Go By Tire PSI They Recommend On The Door Card !! Look What Is On The TIRE ... Then Subtract 7 PSI From That .... Air It Up , And Roll On Down The Road !! 😆
Had a 2003 lincoln town car, got into a bad accident but the interior was intact! Safest car I've ever had, I liked it so much I bought another which is now my daily driver :)
My 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis (yes, I'm a grandpa) has 245,200 miles on her clock and she still runs like a beast. She only looks a few years old too! These are amazing cars. I might do a video of her for my RU-vid Channel, she's very photogenic.
I’ve had two panther platforms... a 1998 CVPI and a 2003 Crown Victoria LX. That was as far into luxury I was willing to go. They’re way better to drive than the new 2014 econo box that I hate driving that isn’t comfortable anymore with 105,000 fewer miles on it. Panther platforms were great cars.
Had a 2010 marquis.. Ran & handled excellent.. Was my baby.. Till a guy in a mini van plowed into me at a Red light. Watched it get hauled off as scrap. Lol, I'm still mad about it. Both are excellent cars though.. With Power & reliability.
I bought an 02 Marquis last month for under $700. Needs new shocks but that's about it. For the same mileage get the Merc: Cop cars sat and idled for hundreds of hours without adding miles on the odometer.
I just got my father's 99 GMLS. He died three months after he bought it new and it has been in the family. It is mine now with 110,000 miles on it but still very much like new. I am deleting the air ride and installing coil springs and new shocks all around.
I just bought a 2001 crown vic LX and it's almost as decked out as that grand Marquis. Power everything, leather seats. Runs great. The p71 only has 20 more hp than the civilian model. I'll take the luxury.
I picked up mine last year, a garaged grocery getter in Naples, FL. 2003 MGM LS, 74,000 miles on it with a clean Carfax. Started hotrodding it out, old girl gets 26.5 mpg on the highway. Love it!
The only car that’s missing from this pair of cars is the Lincoln Town Car, which is the most luxurious out of the 3. However, out of all 3 of those cars, I would pick the Mercury.
Howdy Mr. Random. Awesome channel. I have a 97 Mercury Gran Marquis GS. 256k miles on it and counting. Got some minor repairs to do it. All the front suspension needs replacing (rust), valve cover gaskets and a couple of minor interior fixes. But it is my car until it rust’s apart. I am trying to find a newer Grand Marquis right now. Mr. Random if you are looking for a awesome sleeper car. My mechanic has a Lincoln MarkVIII he is selling.
P I I would get the valve cover gaskets from ford dealer!! But you can get your front end from here!! www.1aauto.com/ford-lincoln-mercury-steering-and-suspension-kit-12-piece-set-trq-psa58976/i/1asfk02609
I drove Taxi for 35 years we used both Crown Vics and Grand Marquis . Begining with 92's thru and including 2011's . The P71's were used but not that often , Gas mileage was the biggest factor , the bucket seats weren't as comfortable either . It seamed that the merc's were more plush and comfortable than the Ford's even if the Ford's were not P71's . I had a 07 P71 as a personal car and now a 96 and 08 Grand Marquis . There much more comfortable , but Iam 70 and a Great Grandfather .
It's easier and cheaper to put cop shocks, springs and sway bars on the Merc than it is to put a nice leather interior into a cop car. Get the handling of the sporty car with the luxury of the leather car. Or of course, get one of each. Two party system.
I had a 1996 vic that the computer went crazy in it. The dealer reprogrammed it with software updates for a mustang gt and found updates for a Lincoln town car. It had a nice kick when you put the hammer down.
Depending on what options you get, i got a 2008 CVPI with the street appearance package. Full power driver seat, heat/ac, heated mirrors and carpet with full cloth interior.
That Mercury needs control arm bushings. They are both prone to that though. Actually all Ford vehicles are. Unfortunately, that's the trade off having that smooth and soft Ford ride quality. I've had a 2000 Crown Vic P71 Interceptor and I currently have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis. You're not wrong! Hands down, the P71 is the better performance machine. I miss mine. But hands down, the Mercury Grand Marquis is one of the smoothest, nicest riding cruisers I've ever driven. At the end of the day, I'd much rather have a suped up Mercury. I loved having a police car. I loved every bit of it except getting stuck behind somebody who thinks you're a police officer, and I hated how basic the interior was. But, if you're willing to drop a few grand into serious performance mods, the Mercury is the way to go!
I just inherited my mother's 2008 Grand Marquis LS. First thing I did was tint the windows, next will be a double din stereo monitor so I can hook up a rear camera, then I might upgrade the wheels . I'm about function over style so I'm still considering then I'll probably give the muffler a growl and at anoint I would love to boost performance. Since I'm in California and I'm good for 2 years on smog, any suggestions what I should do to it? I've heard a p70 air intake if I can find one is a good place to start. The a k&n filter, and there was a fuel line piece i seen that are always bad on these engines and just replacing that alone would add 10 to 15 miles to the tank. Any thoughts? How do those window trim inserts look? They're $109 i think i saw and they just fit over the windows, like accents, I forget the name
One metric most don't think of... If you lose your apartment, the 6-way adjustable seats in the Grand Marquis can be made more comfortable if you have to sleep in your car... Just sayin'. 2000 Grand Marquis LS, 143,000 miles. I don't see a reason to change cars. This one does everything so smoothly!
I'm a grandpa!! I have a 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis LS-E which has the same set up of a Crown Victoria LX Sport. Front bucket seats, center console with shifter, 239 hp 4.6 V8, moonroof, factory 6 disk, in dash CD player, automatic climate control. It used to have rear air suspension. I hated it so I converted it to regular rear suspension. No difference, except the rear does sag more with a loaded trunk. I have two remote key FOBS an extra ignition key, too!! Has 123,000 miles on it and I adore this thing!! However as a second Panther I would get a Crown Victoria Street Appearance Package Detective's Edition!! If you can find one!! A wolf in sheep's clothing!! Cool!! I hear they're harder to find than a Marauder!!
I like the p71 ruggedness but I also like the grand marquis luxury. I think I'm going to get the mercury and then upgrade it with p71 parts, get that aluminum driveshaft, stiffer springs, throw a tune on it, thicker sway bars, change the rear end gearing, and It should be about on par with a p71.
Grandma car is right - women live longer and they drive lite footed for sure . But if you want Kool Factor the P71/P7B is the ticket. Its definitely a Mental thing. Rock on Random,
I love my 2000 mercury grand marquis limited so much I went and got a second one a ls all in total I payed 3,500 for them together and omg I LOVE THEM 😊
Iv had my 04 Merc Grand Marquis LS almost 2 years. Silver on grey leather and 54k on it and was bought off my great uncle who bought it new an had it at the dealership every 6 months and always been garaged to this day. Had 25k on it when i got it. My brother an i have owned a few going back to an 89 interceptor.. The question is do you want to drive a big comfortable and good looking car. Leather alloy wheels that's been babied an all that or a beat down fleet car someone pushed 200k miles of farts into the cheap seats lol.. If you want to go fast buy a Mustang.
downshifts. I have a 2008 Grand Marquis. Hardly a boat compared to the 60s and 70s Chryslers or the 68 Pontiac hearse I owned. Those were battleships. The hearse a carrier.
i just found your channel recently bro! bought a 02 "more door mercury" back in march lol! she just turned 155,000....got her at a real "steal"....2,395 total with all tags/taxes/doc fees everything! 1,950 was on the windshield..... shes in a few of my fpv kwad flyin videos....
I brought a 03' Merc because rhe old couple took care of it. I can spend more money on mods that will improve the looks and performance. True the Crown Vic P71 can outperform the Grand Marquis but buying one means fixing the wear and tear first. Winner: Mercury Grand Marquis!
Had a crown Victoria 03 P71 lost control crashed it sadly wrapped around a pole and it was a goner after bought a 99 marquis LS personally I'd choose the crown vic for the great suspension but the marquis runs so smooth
I think you forgot to mention the multitude of Grand Marquis that have the M75 package. They came with a better tune than the P71 Vic, true dual exhaust, bigger torque converter, 327 locking 8.8 rear, power steering cooler, and bigger rear sway bar. They also have adaptive air spring rear suspension and higher top speed than the Vic. These cars are everywhere and clown a P71. I have one I bought from Florida for 500 bucks with 101k miles on it and it's a 97. All people need to do is look for m75 in the VIN. The true taxi cab varient is neither a P71 or a M75 but a p98 I believe. They came with heavier springs, etc. The best bang for the buck is a Marquis M75. If the air suspension goes bad and eventually they will, replacement air springs are cheap or as an option, conversion kits to convert to conventional coil springs with gas charged shocks are about 150 bucks complete on Amazon. Stock vs stock... I'd put my money on an M75 Marquis Everytime. I'd be surprised if a Presidential Marquis didn't have M75 equipment as Presidential anything is usually intended to be comfy AND bad ass but the point is know how to decode the VIN when shopping. Peace.
I'm having trouble finding any information about this online. All I can find is M75 = LS trim, I have never heard of any of this other stuff before and I've been in panther community's for years.
Just purchased a 2005 mercury grand Marquis with 104,000 for 600 bucks in Immaculate condition. Lady’s husband died & needed to get rid of it. I love the car already
Thanks so much for all this info. But I still am unclear about a couple things. One thing is that you say it is easier to get parts for the Crown Vic's because the junk yards have so many of these cars - but is it not true that virtually any part at all for either model is interchangeable with the other model? And, I would like to ask your opinion about the fact that the P71 has no doubt been driven hard and fast and idled for many hours with no concern by the drivers for abuse they put it to; and you say generally the Grande Marquises have been driven carefully by grandma's and grandpa's but other mechanics claim that the start and stop driving , short trips to the store and to bingo and church age the car much faster than highway miles, since the car does not have time to warm up properly and the engine wears out faster in the first few miles. What I am looking for is the car that will last the longest with the least trouble - so do you conclude the Crown Vic is the best coice? Thank for your advice.
The most luxurious Crown Victoria was the rare 1992 Crown Victoria Touring Sedan which in 1992 had a base price of S23,999. It had leather and cloth seating surfaces, auto climate control, dual power seats with power recliners, performance handling package with the 4.6 liter dual exhaust, automatic level control and cast aluminum wheels, anti lock brakes with traction assist, am/fm Stereo with cassette deck. Major options included a premium audio system, Insta clear windhield, 12 disc CD changer mounted in the trunk and full leather seating surfaces. Fully optioned it would cost about $28,700. A factory power sunroof was unavailable on Crown Vicks until the 2003 model year.
ok i just went shopping for a panther car, one thing you want to take into consideration is the nasty vinyl roof they put on these cars. it rots holes in the roof, and to remove it you will be left with a bunch of screw holes and rust holes in the roof and doors to fill in. if you can find one without the vinyl top buy it, my 09 crown vic came with holes for the cop antennae, i wish they left them in, but they plugged them so im going to hide then with a fake shark fin antenna and a fake cb antenna if i can find one maybe ill put in a cb radio i dont know
I got a 2000 light blue metallic Presidential with a dark blue roof it has 27000miles, I am the third owner and the car is absolutely mint! The factory stickers is still on the panels! But the landau roof on mine is all the way. These are the best cars ever produced!
Lincoln town 2006 -2011 cut off rear cats and main muffler leaving front cat and resonators. Get a programmer remove speed limiter and firm up shifts sweetest highway runner on a budget perfect mix of power and fuel economy road trip heaven love my Lincoln
your comparing apples and oranges, your comparing a Grand Marguis to a Police car of course they are going to be different, the grand marquis has approx. 224 HP where as the crown Victoria police pkg. has a higher output engine 235 hp. try comparing a regular CV to a regular grand marquis.
On all grand Marquis you can convert them to look like crown vics just need Vic front and back bumpers/Vic headlights and side markers/the plastic frame part that holds the headlights and grille oh need a Vic grille to and a CV reverse light panel there any Marquis converted to Vic but on the 98-02 models gotta get front side fenders so that the side markers will fit.
when i had my 04 marquis no one talked about them and when they did they would say its a pos, a poor guy's car and a clunker now that i don't have it anymore everyone talks about how glorious of a car is
Wery Nice video ,i live in Norway and my ride is a 1986 Chrysler Fith Avenue ,i have for a long time dreamed abouth ,bying a Vic interceptor , and you would be the man i would ask for adviceses after landing in Usa =)
Your Chrysler chasise, was also used by Dodge and Plymouth in their respected police packages here in North America... 318 is not much a performance package, but a built up 360 will give you a neat sleeper.
What’s going on bro I’m actually glad I ran into this video I’m getting a lot of people that argue between the two on Wich is better and more reliable lol I’m in the market of getting a panther car so to get down to it Wich one would be more reliable a Vic or merc?
Use to own a 2004 P71 SAP that was never driven hard, just a two and from work car for an FBI office guy. I bought it at 68,000miles and Sadly I sold it at 134,000 back in 2017. Huge regret but currently looking at a 2004 P71 SAP with 85,000 miles or a 2004 Grand Marquis GS with 68,000 miles on it. Tough decision man. I want that 2004 p71 as it’s the first years with the marauder airbox and maf and last year with throttle by cable. However I like that GM get better gas mileage and idk if the different geared rear end is really worth it. Like I said I once had a 04 p71, maybe it’s time to try something new. Mostly everyone I’ve talked to in the Vic community has said if they could go back and changed things or had a bigger budget time of purchase people always say they have gotten something other than a p71 based on the comfort aspect.
I think that’s a Grand Marquis LS. You probably would’ve made an easier comparison with a Grand Marquis GS. The GS is the little bit less fancy, but still fancy Grand Marquis. The GS is a little more basic
bought a 2001 MGM a couple years ago. if I couldn't do the ball joints, intake manifold and other repairs this would have been a money pit. turns out to be a good work car for me.
Great video, but that Grand Marquis is a base trim GS with the dealer add on top and added sun roof. I believe those I leather seats are a dealer add on kit as well, at least they looked that way. The most loaded 02 Grand Marquis would have a floor shifter gear selector, air ride, digital dash, radio and climate control buttons on the steering wheel, trunk and dash CD player, rear reading lights, on and on including a full size spare tire and a traction lock axle with dual exhaust.
I have a floor shift model Marquis... And yes it has all those options. The air ride went out though so I put nice, regular shocks on it. You know your Mercs... Were you a dealer?