Grand Theft Auto 6 - DF Direct GTA 6 Special - Trailer 1 Tech Breakdown 

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I haven't watched the video yet but I'm here to hear John talk about twerking and if he doesn't I'll be disappointed.

My mom does it really well

​@@ihmpallI concur

​@@ihmpallgot a video?

I wonder if they mocap it ...for science of course

Angry Joe made a 1hr video yesterday on this though, but ofcourse Digital Foundry is just mostly about the graphics.

@@Powwpoww what he talked about for an hr in a 1.5 minute trailer?

@@BUPMY1 Just watch it and see

@@BUPMY1mostly speculation and nonsense

The new GameXplain 😊

They always mal gar. Absolutely correct. And ON TOP of that: They always just knock it out of the Park ,,art of the trailer" wise. The Editing and music choice and how everything flows together is always just perfect. I still get goosebumps at the scene where the ,,Hammerlady" Clip is shown and then the guy breaks through the table perfectly synced with the drums in ,,Love Is A Long Road" and then you see Jason first with Lucias Voiceover....I live those few seconds.

*Always nail that

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The question is how much of this is from gameplay or story/mission beats and how much of it is hand crafted just for the trailer sake. And then worked backwards to incorporate all of this into the game before its released. Theres no doubt most/all of this is in engine footage. Might be real time, might not be. It could just be the artistic target set that they should aspire to and know they can reach with optimization. Things like aliased hair says to me its in engine stuff real time unless theyre being big brain and rendering hair at low rez offline.

It's only 90 seconds but Rockstar put so much effort and love into it.

Man, that's what I was thinking! This is exactly the type of stuff I would be searching for if I was on that team. Speaking of, these people are wizards from another universe operating in a the 11th dimension. Shoutout to the devs!

I think there was an article on IGN about an former developer at Rockstar and he claimed everything was in engine and looking that good during gameplay. I think GTAVI will set standards for this generation the way RDR2 did for last.

@@PP7Silenced the IGN article is just referencing a RU-vid video. I saw the video in full. Its a great analysis by the former dev.

@@anony88 isn't the youtube video the official trailer though.

@@PP7Silenced I was talking about the devs reaction. Theres a reaction video of him talking on RU-vid

Same with Rocksteady

Didn't we see similar hair in the tomb raider reboot from 2013?

@@gavinderulo12was and still is incredibly expensive.

⁠@@gavinderulo12good ol’ TressFX. Looked cool, but only worked on Lara’s hair, and it was a GPU performance hog lol.

they don’t use pre-rendered scenes but they yank and rip effects and textures around that don’t get fully seen until the PC version is released

To add up on it, most of the times the visuals have actually improved since the 1st trailer

@@yourpaljake6024 True, I wonder how much better they can make it look and run in the 2 years or so until release

Yeah but in V all of the reveal trailer stuff was either just found on the intro of the game or were curated scenarios not actually seen in game, but it was real time

@@alexsilva28 That's kind of my point, even if the exact scenarios aren't in the final game it's still a good indication of what you can expect on launch.

its even more amazing because you see all the vram warnings in the leaked footage lol

Im just glad its finally officall, 2024 gonna be long for sure though

​@@PanPrezeso2023 has gone incredibly fast. In a year from now we will likely be a couple months from launch.

Almost 2 years , every gta came out in October

Gta 5 was ass 😂 lmao especially on release you must be young.

It's kinda theraputic to take a night drive through the Vinewood Hills, past the observatory, around Mt. Chiliad, by the wind farm, and finally hopping back on the LS Freeway all while cranking Bob Seger, Billy Squire, and Robert Plant on LS Rock. Winters get cold and nasty where I live. So, it's doubly nice to get that kind of experience.

that scene is crazy but after rdr2 in 2018 i trust in rockstar to make it happen

Asssassins creed unity would be the closest thing I can think of

@@sora4786 No way that is this detailed, not even close, even Hitman Absolution had huge crowd density even in the Xbox 360 era, even Cyberpunk 2077 does great crowd density with great detail but we haven't seen anything like that before, the detail of NPC's in GTA VI is far better, well according to this trailer, hoping it holds true.

@@sora4786Correct abd that game on Xbox Series X is simply amazing to go back to play considering the direction AC games have taken. A remaster of that game and or a sequel to that game is my dream for the franchise or put it on hiatus and truly reboot or remaster Prince of Persia.

@@sora4786 that’s true, AC Unity had a lot of people in the streets. Cyberpunk pretty good too

I mean.. pixels won't count itself

I don't understand why a trio of nerds being oddly uncomfortable by the sight of some digital boobs is somehow admirable.

I can't wait to hear from Richard when its's time to discuss the state of the art twearking physics

GTA games have never had a realistic art style for the characters and environments! Games can still look good no matter the art style.

just the most anticipated trailer of this decade

​​@@brunoutechkaheeros1182110mln views in 1 day and its just game trailer. Holyyy😅

Are you new to this channel? They analize graphics to a meticulous degree.

🤣with all the joy of the scrooge

except making this trailer probably took at least a month

me too man, cant waittttt

What a sad life lol

@@jarlwhiterun7478 That's extremely rude

The years...

@@NikHem343 Most idiots on the internet are extremely rude.

yeah people can't expect much from next gen graphics if the target is 60 fps

@@Spoopy_man even if we play this on the future ps5 pro? I mean 4k60fps were supposed to be the standard this gen, right?

@@mpr9564 4k 30 or 1440 60 is my bet for this game on ps5 pro and just 1440 30 for standard ps5.

​@@mpr95644k60 would've taken up the whole GPU and memory performance increases of the 9th generation when using the same level of graphics from the 8th gen, upscale techniques became a necessity rather than a commodity in order to improve graphics

​@@mpr95644K60 standard? No that was never promised, it's a popular myth. These are $500 machines, let's be grateful they can accomplish what they already can.

Red dead 2 had great cloud simulations etc so I imagine gta 6 will look insane.

Even tho it will be hard to implement, extreme weather like hurricanes would be so sick

Hopefully, the next trailer shows more of the weather

Yes, and an extremely specific *type* of illiustration-- those proportions and clean outlines are exactly what you get in the concept art/splash art all over the series. That scene w/ Lucia at the rooftop pool looks more like the illustrations you see associated w/ gta v than anything they've ever done. Really quite stunning.

Red Dead Redemption 2 had all the pores and blemishes but still also had the illustration quality. We need to stop describing all high fidelity games as photorealistic. Of course they are all illustrations and photorealism is just one style that certain games like Alan Wake II has.

Yeah it has this Hollywood "Bigger than life" feeling to it, which probably is precisely what they want to achieve.

Exactly what came to my mind, too. Illustrated. Spot on.

I don't know about "no pores or blemishes". Maybe on the crowds, but I can definitely see what you're talking about in this trailer especially on the main male character. Perhaps the softer look on the women is to show makeup? but even then she has multiple moles. Other side characters also show plenty of skin imperfections.

I remember seeing 2 years ago a leaker said that the clouds in GTA 6 were using the same technology as the clouds from RDR2 and the hot air balloon mission was a huge test for GTA 6. So I guess he wasn’t lying

I like that GTA VI takes more from Read Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 than GTA V.

@@saricubra2867GTA5 is from Xbox 360 days.. super old tech

A sign of true brothers right in sync

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It'll be smooooooth.

If it is as this trailer, im guessing it'll probably be similar to how gta 5 handles on the ps4/xbox one, where the frame rate will be stable but can significantly tank when there's tons of alpha and objects/people ragdolling everywhere. One thing im sceptical about, is how dense everything is, will the ps5/series x(let alone series s) even be able to keep up? Is our storage space able to keep up? Rdr2 was around 160gb, and that game was mostly just vegetation💀

@@forrandomsites3336 rockstar is fully aware of the cyberpunk 2077 debacle of promises not kept. And yet, rockstar filled their trailer with “impossible” never before seen things… they fully intend to keep those promises.

@@forrandomsites3336 what? And what Plattform was Rdr2 160gb? Also, wasn't that an issue with hard drives needing to store assets multiple times incase of a cicle miss? This is no longer necessary on ssds.

@@forrandomsites3336well we have compression engines, SSD’s so less of a need for duplicated assets to help hold things up

Forspoken had good hair physics on Frey but we only see it in the beginning Tbf it doesn't have nearly as much NPCs Alice Madness returns also has good hair physics

Eh, hair physics like that is already present in the Tomb Raider Trilogy games.

Its not pre-rendered, but its curated. Choreographed. It happened in gta 5 too. NPC's doing behaviors they may not do in-game. But still great

yeah on a 4K Display its easy to spot a very FSR-ish look overall. Especially in the shot where a plane flys across the sky and it leaves a trail of pixel noise. Great to see the honesty.

This game is pretty but nothing mindblowing just like GTAV was. Remember this is going to release in 2025 which is presumably end of current generation just like with GTA V. Cyberpunk and other PC centric games will be much better. If rockstar decides to release the game for PC then if they could implement full path tracing then it could be one of the best looking games, but I believe their material pipeline is outdatet to be hones. Game has this art/comics feeling to it.

Yeah it is stylised like GTA5. RDR2 was Photo real but mixed with a photo real painting style so they are good at finding the Right Blance.

So...the canny valley?

I find they spend much more time creating realism on the environments, nature and overall materialistic things. The NPCs look much better than previous titles, but ya they still have that cgi cartoony look to them and I don't mind at all. I prefer seeing realistic attention to details and stuff like animations etc.

Yeah there’s also something compelling and attractive about the cartoony look… if you look at the main characters their eyes are slightly too large, and that makes them more lovable, it subconsciously triggers our responses to children, whose facial proportions are similar (it’s why Disney/Pixar characters have huge eyes). The un-uncanny valley girls are looking smoking in this trailer, tho

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You can actually see an improvement over the course of the trailers up until release. We saw something similar with gta 5.

In retrospect it’s wild they got RDR2 running a ps4/Xone

@@bentai4496 yeah. It completely blew me away playing it on a xbox one x at native 4k at launch. The jump from previews games of that generation was massive. I remember thinking that AC odyssey, which launched around the same time, looked like a mobile game in comparison.

@@gavinderulo12I have no doubts GTA6 trailers will also improve

@@bentai4496right, considering how bad the Jaguar CPUs were

The release date of the trailer was announced a few days ago

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Sir whichard

He’d betterlead

​@@AdamMi1it was leaked early so they had to release it early

Could you reduce it to the layman's terms pls?

@@kusturucu1015 hair particles in a strand of hair are organized like a bunch of fixed length pendulum in series, which mean calculations happen in a certain order, because you can't process a particle without processing the previous one with the first one being at the root and the last one at the tip. But gpu being massively parallel you can process a single or many strands, which is a series of particles linked together, on a single parallel calculations. To help reduce calculations, you can interpolate fake particles in a single strand between real particles to give more details, using a curve called splines, there is many type of spline but any type can do it. To help further, as there is a huge number of hair strands, you can use selected group of strands and interpolate fake strands between them. But this doesn't give collision between strand, because you will have to test every strands particles against every other strand particles, which mean dependency between all strands, which is why games don't really have real hair even now, too many calculations, that would take day. Instead we use a 3d texture that acts a dynamic look up array for strands, it use big cells with value in it. When computing a strand particles, we read the values to see how much a cell is occupied at that particle position, depending on that value we push the particle that overlap the cell, then once we find the position, the particles add values to that cell. The texture values are called density because it keeps track to how dense a region is, and depending on that density, it influences the calculations at one particles to simulate collision, instead of testing all particles for every particles calculations, we only look at the texture once. This is simular to calculations for fluid simulation like water. Another solution for low end machine, is to do regular bone based simulation on polygon, pass the motion vector to the vertex, and in pixel, group pixel region and use the motion vector to calculate displacement using a spring like calculations, with the motion being the input force into the region applied to the center of the region, and interpolated between region. It will add jiggles per pixel on top of the bone base simulation.

Now on Star Citizen last update, we have new hair sim awesome !

The biggest compliment the devs could receive about the visual design of this game, honestly. Imagine how good it would feel being one of the people behind the game right now and witnessing people in complete disbelief that what you made is even possible.

@@Reds-Retros Same happened with the Fable trailer. R* is simply in another league.

@@tylermartin7245 of overhype the product, yes.

​@@sidewinder86ifyFalse, they didn't hype a thing, it all came from the fans. And Rockstar's games have always surpassed the trailers in graphics quality.

@@blitzwing1 I think even people who don't enjoy sandboxes or Rockstar games get GTA at like a discount for like 10-15 bucks years after release because you can just drive around and shoot stuff. Easy 6-12 hours of fun. GTA V was free for a month in 2018 on epic store.

I hope it's more like GTA IV than V.

If the wanted system isn't on point this game is dead

​@@SOLIDSNAKE.You say that as if in GTA it was bad

@@tylermartin7245 GTA5 had far superior car physics that GTA4. GTA4 felt like you're on ice. I hated it.

@@blaynestaleypro and V felt like cars were glued to the Ground xD i'd say a mix of these 2 between would be it

Am I the only who feels like Jason and Lucia's models look a bit less realistic than NPC models? Maybe I'm just crazy

@@irecordwithaphone1856i don't think they look *worse* but they just look *different* due to them being the main characters and their models are gonna differ a bit. it's like how in rdr 2 there are some npcs that really do look like they're detailed enough to be a part of the main crew LMAO

the mud scene always gets me whenever an Instagram media page posts it, and even if you're just looking at it without squinting or scrolling by its super impressive

@@irecordwithaphone1856 maybe theyre more stylized so that they stand out more and show more personality through their looks

Yes, weather effects in RDR2 were already very impressive and that’s on PS4.

The best shot in this trailer is the street with all the cars and colorful buildings imo. The lighting and level of detail looks amazing.

I bet there are localised water spouts forming during storms & hurricanes which is gonna be a first in the history of these games too. The tropical storm/hurricane weather system was already tested out in RDR2 & the clouds in that one shot give me a heavy vibe that we gonna see addition of new & dynamic weather systems. 🌪️🌊

Agreed on the weather effects but many of the character animations look uncanny to me. They are way too smooth imo

@@alexsilva28 they look very rockstar to me

True... But the best character to date is Jill Valentine in Re3... The amount of detail and motion capture acting was and still is top notch.

@@mat.phoenix Personally I'd say best character rendering in my book goes to the tech demo that was The Callisto Protocol say what you will about the gameplay and story but the graphics were insane in that "game" also I personally think there has yet to be a hair system that has surpassed TressFX 2/Purehair in Rise of the Tomb Raider AND unlike Hairworks by Nvidia that shit was wayyyy less computationally heavy so it barely impacted performance while giving Lara Croft beautiful flowy hair.

@@theninjamaster67 it was a great tech, callisto, I admit.

@@mat.phoenix Yah that game still impresses me with it's graphics it just sucks that the studio that made it seem to be doing badly so they can't make something better using the same tech.

They seem to have some very realistic muscle physics or something like that. Also the fidelity of the characters is surprisingly high for an open world game with large crowds, at least on the beach scene. I wonder whether they invented some special sort of rendering technology for their engine that makes this possible.

The draw distance reminds me of red dead 2. But more impressive since it's a dense urban setting.

@@cube2foxKeep in mind that this is all cutscenes, so we don't know how well character animation will hold up during game play.

I might get a pc for this game later cause damn if looks this good on consoles I can only imagine

30fps lol

Thats more than obvious especially with the outdated cpus on console

I think the PS5 Pro may get 45-60fps.

@@Chrisallengallery yeah maybe

It’s fine if you like 30FPS but also give the option for 60FPS even if there is no raytracing at least give the option to people how they want to play their game 30 or 60FPS or at the very least a 40 FPS option for 120hz display users like many other games on ps5 and series X.

​​@@xacvhFAsif its gonna run on series s then we will probably get 60fps mode, time will tell

I'm suprised they didn't point that out but no frames are actually dropped, however the framepacing is borked it's stuttery because the camera isn't moving a consistent distance per frame like it should be.

It means it was rendered using the game engine. It does not mean it was in-game footage, or that the game is actually going to look anything like that. I mean, look at Valve's Source Filmmaker. It's a tool that lets you make video's using the Source engine. All of the TF2 "meet the..." video's were supposedly made using that (or a much earlier version of it, anyway). They're all in-engine. But do they look like the game? Not at all.

This video is very solid. Even with some funny or awkward moments these guys are geniuses and the content is super good.

Cynberpunk could've come close but greed got to CDPR. R* is the only dev in the industry that continues to push limits.

The thing most open world games are missing is high density NPCs and wildlife to make the world feel alive. Cyberpunk is the biggest loser in that regard. I'm glad to see GTA6 is increasing the NPC count.

​@@azca.What they (Rockstar) have learned from making RDR2 ecosystems, we'll definitely see here, which makes me excited cuz the simulation of the ecosystems in RDR2 were very impressive. I'm also looking forward to their dynamic weather simulation and see how they'll do tropical storms and even hurricanes!

There is not a single developer trying to compete with Gta lol. They just play around with their release dates to not be around Rockstar's

Yeah. That’s what I think, too.

The trailer is certainly rendered in-engine, as usual. Which isn't necessarily a representative of actual in-game quality in motion, just a proof-of-concept type of render. Only RDR 2 imo managed to deliver what was presented in the first few trailers in the most faithful way but like, that was just too obvious.

@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 GTA IV, GTA V, RDR 2 delivered the same visuals as the trailers.

@@OtavioFesoares Nah, GTA IV was notably different compared to the trailer while GTA V on PS3 and X360 just didn't hold up to the supposed "target render" of the reveal trailer (understandably). Only RDR 2 here, being the most faithful to its own initial target render.

@@OtavioFesoaresnot really and I played GTA 5 across 3 platforms. It was close tho.

Surprised they didn't catch that, you don't need temporal accumulation for render to texture, you'll only see temporal lag/ghosting on ray based effects like SSR and RT Reflections

Even if that's true actual gameplay isn't going to be as high fidelity as the cutscenes even in game. Amd it's been TEN YEARS, a lot of policies could change since he or she left. Obviously there are still 2 years left to optimize and polish.

​@@Wobbothe3rdrdr2 proves that wrong.

I think it’s worth remembering that most of the senior development team left Rockstar in the gap between V and now (including Benzies), so heck of a lot will have changed, including potentially policies around this kind of thing. Doesn’t mean it’s not RT necessarily, but I wouldn’t put that much stock in what was done there in the past.

And it’s the best strategy, because while playing, from a distance or in motion you don’t notice the micro reflections on your hair, but their movement, physics in relation to their movement

Been here since the 7th gen gta5 comparisons, drop a 💀 for all those who didn’t make it.

Yes, and Insomniac is already such a good development studio. The devs at Rockstar are just on another level

Insomniac is an amazing developer but GTA is made by a company that has made BILLIONS lol

To be fair, this game seems to be targeting 30fps, while Spider-Man 2 is 60fps. If Spider-Man was 30fps only, I’m sure Insomniac would push the graphics even more.

It’s crazy because Spider-Man 2 is considered a great looking game right now and it looks so bad in comparison

Just 25? Rookie numbers

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You're not going to see these visuals because the Xbox Series S will hold everything back

Seriously. 35years old and I’m geeking like I did waiting in line at the GameStop midnight sale for GTAV.

@@joerocket5. The footage is in-game homie. The visuals will most definitely be paired back for Series S but will definitely be closer to the trailer on the higher end machines, and then probably fully realized on PC.

Aren't we all.

I want 144 fps 4K

⁠240fps 8k

Please give us an vrr option atleast 🙏

Wont happen maybe on ps5 pro

And yet, you must.

​​@@phant0mdummyhow long do you reckon? I've got a 4090 here polishing its nails 💅

@@terryhaircastle5702 Going by the previous games, at least a year unfortunately. But we might be on RTX 6000 by then.

It's kind of insane that they're not doing PC day one. It isn't 2005 anymore. PC's are a bigger market than ever and they're just ignoring it. Hell, Rockstar even has their own launcher so they wouldn't need to share revenue with Steam and Epic which means there's way more profit with a PC version. Sony, Xbox, Steam take 30%.

​@@ChaseSchleich it's nothing to do with them not caring about pc players, the opposite in fact. Whenever devs like rocksteady go all in on consoles or cdpr go all in on pc, the other thing suffers. R* simply makes them one at a time, to give a quality final product

Yeah and all the people in the background they are not moving

very shallow water or jesus powers

Indeed, after watching this video and reading some of the comments, I definitely see artifacts and, like you said, glitches, which prove that it's actually a game, not render. And it's the first time in my life I was happy to see glitches. It's simply amazing - I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the trailer. Rockstar - magicians.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the PC port had an advanced option for RT Shadows and RT Reflections everywhere instead of a mix of RT and SSR. It’d be kinda odd if GTA 5 (PS5 and XSX/XSS) had RT shadows but GTA 6 didn’t

@@SnrubSource Oh for sure. It would be ridiculous if they don't use the PC port as a graphic display. But, I have my concern as how they abandoned V PC port. Hope this it's not the case tho. I thought that as well, they probably used V to test RT effects for VI. So they obviously can do it.

PC cvks happily waiting to buy the game one year later once again to experience lighter shadows on their 4090s 🤦‍♀

@@NatrajChaturvedi Trust me, it'll look a league or two better on PC, just like GTA V and RDR2 was. Who knows it could even be fully pathtraced and not use half-assed RT like on the consoles. Also, a 4090 will be old news by then, it'll be towards the end of the 5090 era, with a 6090 peering over the not to distant horizon.

@@fafski1199 yeah as I said enjoy it... meanwhile console players would enjoyed the and moved on once again.

Yeah. I don't like the term "Lumen", it makes it sound like a single thing. But I assume Rockstar doesn't use virtualized geometry (something like Nanite), given that we only increasingly see software RT outside UE5, like in Alan Wake 2, but nothing like Nanite.

@@cube2fox Isn't Nanite just UE5's version of mesh shaders. Which a few games have used like Alan wake 2.

Consoles can do full RTGI, but only at lower resolutions. See the Minecraft RTX demo on Series consoles

@@Tech-is1xy I don't know, but they do seem quite similar. Really strange. I don't even know whether Nanite makes use of mesh shaders.