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+Paradox Basically, Nassif had Ignite Memories(5mana cost), Grapeshot(2mana cost) and Rite of Flame(1mana cost). Chapin used his own Ignite Memories to storm him 5 times with it. The only outcomes where Nassif survived was to hit Rite of Flame twice for 1 damage each and never hit Ignite Memories, which happened.
The looks on their faces, they're really having fun. This is the reason I started playing Magic. And who brought the horn? I felt like I was watching the World Cup for a second. xD
When did professional Magic events stop being like this? These two guys are smiling, laughing, communicating with one another, and even joking. These days, it seems scarce to hear the players utter even more than a sentence to one another, let alone crack a smile or a joke.
The odds of that exact string happening are 1/243 or about 0.4% The odds of him surviving the 5 copies based on what was in his hand and his starting life total of 9 is 26/243 or about 10.7%.
Thanks from seven years later! I was going to calculate that myself and you saved me the work. It l looks like my ballpark, so I'll trust it and move on.
@@notorioezz it was a few turns in so maybe about 10 cards total math the odds it’s around .245% to get those odds and dodge lethal chances on 5 copies of the spell Actually after crunching numbers The percentage is closer to .0067% So he was quite lucky
@@badvoodoo2097 wait... I don't understand. Are you trying to calculate the odds of the match playing out. I don't play much magic, but if we are just considering the 5 copy thing. I seem to understand, he had to avoid 1 card, and land on 1 card twice?. If there are only 3 options, and 5 counts, then the total possible premutations is 243. Out of those 243 possibilities, he has to avoid 1 card which leaves 32 premutations. In those 32, he also has to land on the same card twice, where 10 outcomes will not let that happen. This results a total of 22 outcomes that would have kept him alive or an estimated 9.05% chance of surviving. Not really sure where you guys are getting your other math from or how this is a 1 in a million moment. If we are talking about the math for the whole match, than we are leaving probable and going into statstical. Of course statisical is poorly reflected in card games in general.
Sebastian Sewolf hes playing a mono red foot fetish/grape drank hybrid. It was first used in 1600's and topped a few world tourneys but seto kaiba showed up and tore up the 4th grape shot thus making his 3 copies the last existing copies left on the planet. The worth of the 3 grape shots alone is worth more than a vintage set of power 9. Ah what a crazy year to be alive that was.
Yea.. I think Ive seen like maybe one live stream of MTG (just happened to tune into it on twitch) and granted idk what stage of the tournament I was watching (semi-finals or finals etc) but the players were definitely much more stoic/focused as was the crowd and commentators even. Not that it bothered me though. Im often the same way when Im playing a good opponent. Also though, there wasn’t anything as hilarious as this going down. Regardless, I think the fact they were both smiling and seemed to be appreciating the odds more than the win/loss made the whole scene much more enjoyable to watch.
Well it's a situation where everything is pretty much set, and there is pretty much no way to punt at all... So you can just chill... In tense situations, there is no way this would occur ^^ cause you need to be 100% focused. I've made punts myself in tournaments cause i got distracted (and cause i was bad too lol but that makes it even more important to not let the guard down)
This was a great match Chapin took it like a man showed true sportsman ship knowing he was dead when he passed the turn but still letting nassif play out his turn.
I had the privilege of watching this live and it was truly epic. The funny thing was that besides the things going on in the games the players also heard the commentators because of some technical difficulties and we the crowd and the players could hear and were awaiting for Randy Buehler to go all helix when Nassif survived.
Target player reveals a card at random from their hand. Ignite Memories deals damage to that player equal to that card's converted mana cost. Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
@@_GandalfTheGrey_ Its the card ability showcased in the video. You can cast a card and make copies of it for each spell cast before it. The reason they keep resolving ignite memories is because of all of the storm copies.
@@franzjacobhernandez186 when autumn was "protesting" nielsen with her defaced lands, it was disruptive and set the tone for the whole broadcast and they caved like a wet paper bag. Just one example.
@@em3sis That's not at all how that situation happened? She was using illegal lands, they were altered by having a signature and she was penalized for it. Learn your shit. Snowflake.
This is my absolute favorite magic moment, close at second are Makahito Mihara's repeal and Luis "Gut Shot" Vargas but this moment just takes the cake. When it came down to two more 1 in 3 chances, the crowd and the commentators reacting, to when all the dust settles and Nassif lifts his hand up to his esr to hear the rowdiness od the crowd. This moment is perfect not only for the play, but for the energy and environment of this match, the feeling of cheering along to such improbable odds and actually getting there. This moment is just sublime.
@@davidolinger3948 Very true, half the fun with magic is coming up with crazy or stupid stuff and then trying it out. It's a game you wanna play with friends. I remember having loads of fun making a stupid deck which only worked 1/10th of the time but when it did it was so cool.
@@FlamingZelda3 yeah, my fav game I've ever played was a fnm match where me and my opponent were going to time and on my last turn with a huge board me and him and like 3 other people just tried to see if I could kill him in any way with all my cards in hand visible. In the end all we could come up with was an attack for all but 1 life so we drew the game, but man that was fun
I've come back to this video so many times in the past year-and-a-half, and especially these days when mtg events aren't happening, I'm very much looking forward to when we can all safely play paper magic again.
@@subzero308 lmao. You're a funny dude. He's known for being slow as phuck. He can sit on a card for ages before playing it as well. It's what makes him a good player. Very patient. But very slow
@@FlamingZelda3 I also stopped playing when Shards of Alara dropped. Right now I'm starting to get in again, but maaaan the prices and the power level (with some cards) have gone up since then!
@@Lightningspiner yeah everything's different which kept me away for a long time. I just found a TableTop Simulator group that plays a variant called Commander (4 player, 100 cards, no duplicates, almost any card from any block) which is getting me back in. It's pretty combo heavy and allows me to use cards i'm familiar with while learning the new ones. (also i don't have to worry about buying cards cause it's online & I don't have people to play in person with anyway)
When I first saw this video I was new magic and had no idea it was going on. It’s been a few years and now I can fully appreciate what’s happening here, truly incredible.
He survives by hitting 5 1-cost, 1 2-cost + 4 1-cost, 2 2-cost + 3 1-cost, 3 2-cost + 2 1-cost. The numbers of ways in which these can happen (i.e. the number of combinations giving the same outcome) are respectively 1, 5, 10, 10. Every outcome is equally likely (unless someone was cheating), namely 1/(3^5). Therefore the probability is 26/(3^5)=26/243 which is about 0.1070, 10.7% The probability of surviving with exactly 1 life (happens only with 3 2-cost + 2 1-cost) is 10/243 which is about 0.04115, 4.115%
I don't play Magic and don't exactly know what's happening but I can tell something epic is happening 😂 if you can feel it just from the vibe and energy it must be epic!
I'm glad they were both smiling and having fun, and the audience enjoyed it! Definitely more of this in gaming in general. That said, so much resting on random chance? Maybe less of that.
+Joshua Ahrens Gabriel Nassif had a very very slim chance of surviving the Ignite Memories so he chose to let his opponent resolve the effect. However when Nassif cast ignite memories on his opponent, no matter which combination of cards he picked from his opponents hand the opponent would have lost. Since Nassif had a chance to survive he chose to play, but since his opponent was dead regardless he just showed his hand to say "Yep, you got me, I lose."
This was Standard at the 2007 World Championships. Legal sets were Coldsnap, Time Spiral block, Tenth Edition, and Lorwyn. You might be confused about some cards having the old card frame. Time Spiral reprinted several old cards as "timeshifted" cards, in their original card frames.
two of the best to ever do it. say what you want about chapin, maybe his haters aren't even around anymore but the cards spoke to the man and yellow hat was a legend even then.
I really love that neither of them got salty. I guess the winter had nothing to get salty about but the other guy is such a good sport and he's having fun. What a great story he'll be able to tell
They are good friends, they play tested the deck together as part of a team. You can't really be salty when it's your teammate vs you playing for the win.
wow despite that it went horribly wrong they were still both having fun regardless thats how magic should be all over again especially commander its very hard to not play with people who get salty from plays today sadly
Odds of not hitting Ignite Memories: 32/243 ([2/3]^5) Odds of hitting Grapeshot all five times: 1/243 ([1/3]^5) Odds of hitting Grapeshot four times and Rite of Flame once: 5/243 (5*[1/3]^5) Odds of Nassif surviving: (32-1-5)/243, or 26/243. 10.7% chance - hardly one in a million!
There are a lot of problems with your maths. You only need to look at combinations, not permutations with your third calc. The third calc is also lethal (2+2+2+2+1=9). You are also missing the times when rite of flame is chosen two,three, and four times. The solution is way easier. There are four combinations that let him live (11111, 22211, 22111, 21111) divided by the # of possible outcomes (1/3 ^5) = 4/243.
Just to give you a bit of context as an "oldschool" Magic player: You are watching the deciding moments in a match between two of the all-time greatest Magic players, Gabriel Nassif and Patrick Chapin, playing at the Worlds Championship, the highest level of competition. Both of them are close friends and were teammates at the time. They are both playing "Dragonstorm", a very powerful combo deck that relies on the card Ignite Memories to win after assembling its combo. Ignite Memories deals damage based on the card that it randomly reveals out of the opponent's hands - which is what you see here. Nassif needed Chapin to reveal specific cards to win, which happened again and again, giving Nassif an unlikely victory.
To be fair, it isn't. Million-to-one CHANCES show up a lot more than the time it actually hits the actual millionth spot - most times it just hits a normal, regular event and no-one even considers the part it was a million-to-one chance that, say, the plane COULD'VE dropped out of the sky onto you, because it didn't, but there was still a million-to-one chance of it occurring. So I'm willing to believe that for 9 out of every 10 things that could happen, there's always a very rare chance something abnormal could occur, from crossing the road and being hit by a rampaging lion to buying milk and discovering you have superpowers triggered by rotten dairy produce, with only one event out of 10 having statistical 100% certainty of the outcome.
I see your logic, but what did you mean “it” isnt? What were you referring to as “it”? Everything else made sense. Also, you sound like you’d be fun at parties.
You have to remember these are teammates playing near identical (for some reason I think they had different side boards) lists. If you ever are lucky enough to catch the channel fireball guys playing eachother at events I think it's much the same.
Yesterday in commander I use Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith as commander who makes literal artifact called 'Rock' that equips for 1 and tap creature deal 2 damage and won with it, he had 2 life exactly :p it was a comeback I had 4 life and he had 21 turn before.
