Greco Les Paul Model History - Part 2 

Upgrade!!! Nice, Glad i could help you figure it out!!

Thats the idea sir thanks!!

J Euphoria killer man 600s are a great choice!!

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Was there a long tenon in the 78 eg600?

Very cool! would love to see what kind of figuring you have. 850s were some the first ones that had flame tops and some are spectacular, especially the earlier ones till they started increasing the price for better looking ones.

I do! What specific would you like? Or ill just Blab out what i know and maybe cover it?! 1975 Narumo models would be the first signatures essentially. He worked with Greco on Specs of what we consider today pretty typical. However was the first of its kind from Greco back then. Followed Typically a Set neck which was unusual pre 1975 for Greco. Ebony Fret Board, Lil More Figuring to the tops. I think some came with uncovered pickups maybe. However most notably and identifiably by a belly carve on the back. They typically were made in as EG600s i believe but some where in the EG800s. Not 100% but i think they were around only in 75 and 76. So if you find one pick it up because it should be the earliest higher quality guitar from Greco.

@@TheYetti1 Thanks Rob, Actualy I will pick one up tomorrow, I will let you know .

Congrats sir! You wont be disappointed no idea on the pickups but im sure it still is awesome. I will have the finished version of the 1975 EG480 Bolton appearing on the channel very soon!

Easy...id get like 2 grecos haha!

Thanks for the support sir...here is an updated 2020 Greco Buying vid i just did for options on where to buy...check the channel there is a few older ones too..Subscribeee!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u5f8iW8Sia8.html

thanks for the Lates Link drop and shoutout!! much appreciate it!

As mentioned in the video..your clearest identification above a Eg500 will have Binding over the Frets. In some cases the guitar will still have its EG model sticker on teh back of the headstock.

Chris B yeah the EGF850 is gonna be much more expensive. I would almost say probably more desirable as well. Depending on the type of 59 tho cuz they will do the same thing as for models EG59-50 = similar to EG500. EG59-100 = top of the line practically. You'd probably need to have one in the higher numbers to be comprable to the EGF. But I would choose the EGF it will be in before, I think, they got CNC machines so it's still pretty hand made.

Thanks Rob. It's a EG-59-70 or the EGF 850. Sounds like they may be close in terms of spec but I understand the 850 will be worth more. Are both or either nitro finished? Or are they poly?

Yeah super close. Only difference maybe pickups if original. Not 100% but I think poly for both.

Hmm odd..but im quite certain super powers came around in the 90s I dont think they had a need for them in the 80s at earliest possibly 88. Maybe toss some pictures to my gmail...would be intrigued.

Any of those 59 series' i think our referring too are pretty awesome. I have yet to get one in my hands from those models but they deff deliver. Anything above a 500 is solid.

Yeah copied to the best they could a 59, and a cheaper spec for 500. But still alot of great ones came out of the 500s. Play them and see what you think is what i would say on the pups! Congratz

Thanks for your comment! Dated from 1988 would be just after the times of the Super Reals so you would most likely be looking at the Les Pauls that were probably "customs" with binding on the front and back. Depending on the condition they are great guitars. ALOT from that era so there will be alot of very bad condition ones.

Best bang for Grecos are going to be that 700 to 800 range. Even 900 range is awesome but typically pricier. But for sure 700s can come in under priced pretty often and had at good deals. No experience with Epiphone guitars fortunately. Im into the vibe of these 70s and 80s made ones IMO.

68/60s Are pretty I would rate most things better before the 90s so your just a model under the 500s which would bring mid $500 prices. Depending on the finishing (burst being better) of your 60, could get you above $600ish USD. Should be a pretty sexy Guitar...i will at some point collect 58/xx and learn more from them tho.

@@TheYetti1 thanks for the answer! Does the split diamond in my egc makes it rare or expensier? It's a black Custom, not sunburst unfortunately. I've seen people that sells the same model Mint collection series egc 68/60 up to 800 usd, I thought I could sell it in that price 😔

@@NecrosisF Nah,the split diamond deal just denotes the time period. So they all will have those from the 90s years. The Value comes from the Model Number > What qualities they put into the building process. Possible correction on myself...if you have that diamond then you wont typically have it classified in the 68-60s those will just have the greco logo in a yellowish tint. If thats the case you might just have simply the EGC 500/600 (Mint Collection Years because of the diamond) I would look to sell in the $500-600 range still depending on shape...

Yeah 1988 with the diamond would be your Mint Collection Series. They are very similar to pretty much Gibson LP Customs with all the binding if you have it on the front and back. Solid guitars. They really got those models right as well. Probably pumped out more of those than any other series. cheers

Keep an eye out for the next Video addressing sellers. On Tokais and Burnys its arguable as they used similar building practices. In my opinion i find Burnys a bit lower in price and quality, By quality they had alot of models just solid colors not a ton of bursts etc. Tokais are a bit more well known not sure years of production but i think their name pulls more $$$. They seem to go after the look of the more expensive Gibson models.

My egf 850 weights about 3.8 kg :p

Sup Sir, C would probably be referencing the color. Is it "Cherry??" Typically B=Black, S=Sunburst, T=Tobacco.

yes thanks @@TheYetti1

The first run of the MC series, about 1000 guitars, was from 82 through 84 and into 85..regardless of model number they all had long neck tenon, solid mahogany bodies (no chambering) hand selected for its musicality, fret binding on ebony or rosewood fret boards. They were made by a team of veteran luthiers (MC series was their brainchild) who, during 1985, handed production of the MC series over to a different team in a different factory geared for mass production methods. This first run however of about 1000 Fugijen les pauls from the MC series are considered by many to be the peak of Greco's Les Paul manufacturing.

This is cool...thanks for the history drop!

Pretty sure i said that in my video...but most likely they had plain maple or flamed depending on the model with the mahogany pancake body.

Thanks sir! Only details i can get you from the serial number would be date haha. Most Likely that number is pointing to a guitar in 1990, Depending on the model. If you have more details or a picture i could get you a better idea what you would be looking at... : ) Cheers

If i was going to get an affordable greco.. Like the eg 450-500...how is the sound pick ups comparable to the 7-850..more quality variety.. Thanks

@@choogichoogi - Obviously you still have to hear/ play a guitar to establish a personal preference. Even though outlined by the factories, the model and pickup variants re Greco guitars was pretty random some pickups are marked with a name and/or number some have nothing at all on the base there was little in the way of consistency with what guitar had what pups, apart from the Dry z's that seem to only for the higher-end models. www.vintagejapanguitars.com.br/en/greco-pickups/