Growing Living Rat Neurons To Play... DOOM? 

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TBH, that is pretty f***ing tight. 😤

“You can also pass the butter, once you get killed“.

Rat neurons "Do I get cheese?" Scientists "No... you get a tone generator"

*you’re lmao this has just become a giant meme in the replies

@@realbrickbread yuo're

Yore*

*er’uoy

*yur

Can it rick roll

Can It Squirt?

You forgot one Is there p*rn of it?

Does it blend?

Bad apple is the least impressive, megalovania requires some effort, and doom requires the most computing power.

something, something, Skynet. Something, something Armageddon

😂🤣😂 You guys! 😉

Hey, there won't be no problems.... unless a portal to hell opens up on Mars

@@Barrel4336 all because Douglas Quaid blabbed about Mars. Smh

Maybe it saves us from the Demons coming through the portal

Warhammer be like:

bruh💀💀💀 this is funny asf💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Mom: remember to feed the computer!

And then it becomes conscious

Wow a TF2 emblem haver

Well, technically this was always a thing

I wonder if the Petri dishes will be capable of typing “I mitosed ur mom loser” in game chat…

Haha i can only imagine... *cries in TF2*

Imagine loosening to something with millions if not billions less neurons than you

Who would win? Experienced pro gamer with decades playing a variety of shooters vs. a neuron blob

For them, DOOM is _truly_ Eternal

@@TheCaptNonameincredibly underrated

And if they escape, DOOM shall be on us.@@TheCaptNoname

Pretty sure we have no idea wether they’re conscious or not.

DOOM IS LIFE

Makes you wonder, what we're doing for some 4th dimensional scientist using 3D spacetime instead of 2D glass discs for growth media.

Ya know, you bring up and interesting point. Imagine how these other neurons feel, they must think we’re quite audacious to do experiments like this

You gain conscousness just to reap and tear rhose demons

Crazy? I was crazy once.

@@KinuTheDragon They locked me in a rubber room. A rubber room with rat neurons. Rat neurons make me play doom.

bro😂

@@BB-wl4qz 😜

Lool!

If unnamed kid brother could play Doom succesfully in 1990s, there is nothing to wonder if a couple of rat's brain cells would play that game better! 🤤

Neuron Gaming

No frankenstine was about not being cruel to people who look different

But can Frankenstein's monster play Doom?

@@puppyqueen5688while yes, that’s a very surface level interpretation. Mary Shelley was a romantic who opposed the enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, and heroic era of medicine. Frankenstein was written as a ‘cautionary tale’ about the dangers of pushing science too far which was happening at the time. The monster is a physical representation of the horrors that happen when science is pushed too far, these horrors (the monster) eventually catching up with humanity (Frankenstein and his family being killed)

Well, it's _playing_ DOOM rather than _running_ DOOM. My brain can also play DOOM, but can't run it.

@@nathangamble125 quitter mindset

@@nathangamble125 you're technically running doom if you're thinking of doom.

​@@nathangamble125🤓

@@nathangamble125 nerd

Shesh, you've got my laugh

Logical next step

lmao

Are YOU faster than a bunch of rat neuron!?

Rat%

Same here but I only realized because I just saw your comment

I think making neurons run Doom would be far more difficult and impressive. But playing Doom is just the start.

Well if Neurons can run a human, shouldn’t be too much of a stretch to see if they can run doom as well 💀

Booooo. You suck

true.

No you didn't you taught them how to pilot a mech to press certain buttons that translate into certain actions and you choose what actions to do based on sensory signals based on light wavelengths (eyes) Very different

@@Tanystropheus10 Yes I did. It took me like 6 years to master this body. I'm amazed you've heard of my other endeavors. Are you perchance a fan?

@@AS-lv5fwteach me how to pilot a mech broh pls

This is less sentient than a small insect.

@@Kishmond *But can it play doom?*

@@Kishmond It's more sentient than a tardigrade?

@@nicolasherrera0yeah well giving the neurons positive output is like sex for them so they’re having a goddamn party.

@@Kishmond and? Would you trust an wasp smart enough to play doom? I think not.

I totally feel this, currently taking gen chem and my lab instructor is awful

Can't wait for down the line when it inevitably runs skyrim

But can it run crisis

I think you got doom confused with crisis. Doom can even run on a toaster

@@pumbi69 I play Doom on my TI-89 titanium

Well, it is know Doom can be play on anything... he just keep the trend going and true!

e1m1 starts playing (in my mind)

Can you?

@@The_OwO_Shogun yes

i think if you can play doom you can run doom because you're experiencing it which I think would mean you're simulating what you're experiencing in your head (to some degree)

The answer is yes.

you could say that neurons taught neurons, and these neurons taught other neurons how to play doom

Did you try firing the gun?

Can we play doom inside our eyes find out in 10-50 years

Can we play doom in our sleep?

Thats when the interdimensional gates to hell will open for real lmao

And the Divinity Machine will exist... Probably.

@@thespaceman8231 yes

This is already happening with machine learning, which is literally bruteforcing any possibility simultaneously by abusing the ridiculously INSANE computational power of hardware

@@Sam-hw4kj i know, but that’s a machine emulating the human ability to grow and learn. I’m talking about organic material severed from it’s original environment learning how to do the same kind of stuff on it’s own without any kind of assistance from the rest of the body it originated from. THAT sounds like brain-in-a-jar kind of stuff, which is exactly what this seems to be, minus the brain itself.

I'm thrilled by the idea

The first artificial intelligence made of flesh

That already happens, just with non-severed brain cells.

yea, why not choose a more peaceful game? Flappy Bird? Tetris? Pacman? Sim City?

​@@alexkhastellaris

​@@michazadkowski8516ah yes 'peaceful'

@@dgurevich1 it is peacefull after xenos are gone

most of the games you listed are singleplayer only one that's multiplayer is Tetris, and even then matches of that can get pretty sweaty all things considered@@alexkha

that’s basically the plot of Bladerunner lmao

It's conceptually uncanny

Yes

​@@subbot8077you mean psycho pass right

its not terrifying, its exciting

Too limited, someone ought to see if they can run Doom on a clockwork Babbage Engine.

Well, there are A FEW requirements...but...yeah.

If this is a homunculus, then so are things like ChatGPT and all the other AIs. Hell, our CPUs and GPUs probably count as well, with the amount of 'neurons' and 'connections' it has. This video really had me thinking on the nature of conciousness and humanness.

@dejavuism I'd say current AI tech isn't really anywhere close to complex enough to be considered conscious though. And while a GPU might have a lot of connections, I wouldn't consider it a homunculus either. I think the meat robot is close to the idea of a homunculus because of its organic nature, what with alchemical homunculi being artificial humans and all.

well, the capabilites lie in different areas, the brain is more complex and powerful than our ai, yes, but ai is seldom delusional or willfully ignorant id imagine too...Plus human error and all its nuances

@@DG-iw3yw I was about to [jokingly] say "uhh I'm pretty sure ChatGPT has been both delusional and willfully ignorant"... but if anything, that actually reinforces your point 😂 (and to the inevitable nerd that comes along to tell me that chatGPT wasn't _actually_ delusional or willfully ignorant: shut up. just.. shut up )

styropyro quote

Exactly, that was the exact thought I just had

no

Like and dislike (in this case) have nothing to do with emotion. At this level those are just chemical imputs.

no

@@vittoriozanchi2492 But isn't everything we experience some variety of chemical inputs lol

To be fair, we are basically neurons making controlled seizures (or shocks, heh) to a hunk of meat. Ennard controlling a corpse husk makes more sense now.

@@soupcangaming662just imagine how our flesh is miserable in gaming compared to naked neurones, while we have to see a threat, send a signal for our hand to contract index finger so that we shoot it, neurones basically see threats and shoot immediately

Test tube gaming

​@@amvora from the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..

That's literally how it already works when you're playing against your fellow humans lmao

xD

Too much skin and not enough brain?

@@orthotronyes

That's terrifying. Most people have "just enough skin"

@@catatoblob8598 you can harvest your own skin, just let it grow back each time

This man is grinding out meat robots and getting paid. The grind is real.

@@brutuschapman2508meat grinding

I didn't see anything that indicates this is a study

@@LightPink because there isn't, but when you're doing cutting edge research like that, even if you don't publish afterwards (and nothing point to them not doing that, this seems more than worthy enough), you're pushing the field forward.

@@SixWatt put ya head in the meat grinder 🤌

lol

Can’t wait to get the new doom port installed in my frontal cortex

No. Until we design the universe to play doom, we will never be finished.

They were so focused on seeing if it could run Doom they didn't stop to think should it run Doom

No, that would involve removing someone's brain and spinal cord and using that to play Doom.

Nevermind

@@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd your grammar is beyond my comprehension

Man made horrors are the best ones

I can't wait for the lab-grown brain to face off against a supercomputer.

@@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd I'm with you, man. This video was just kind of disturbing to me, when I think about the implications in the decade to come.

You might like playing Rain World then!

You might like playing Rain World then!

I mean that is the instinct of every computer engineer. Or Linux Brosnan that think they are computer engineer.

You might like playing rainworld then!

You might like playing Rain World then!

Putting here cuz no responses OP is factually wrong when he says that doom is only 2d. The game is legitimately 3 dimensional.

Imagine what governments around the world are doing in a deep dark lab somewhere

@@MortemRex Remaking old non threatening dog viruses into human-spread diseases?

@@Natsukashii-Records ☺️not the government silly! They would never do such an awful thing

@@BiggityBoggity8095 Okay can i have your truth about what you claim ?? Because i never played dooms but have digg into a lot a video that explain dooms ! And to what i know it is not 3d at all ! Only 2d image pre selected through the view of the player to only render a multi 2d image "collage" or paste together ! That why dooms can be play on a electronic pregnancy test of even electric thermometer ! And if you say well there is stair and level .... Well yes but it still in 2d ! When you use a elevator or a doors sometime the game teleport you to a another location in a 2d map ! what you see is only a 2d rendering and the clever trick of John carmack (wich is not is own idea there is a github explain the code to anyone with a goode levl in math ) is to only a reverse square formula to skip the impossible 3d rendering they were aiming to do ! Just think about it it was a time were Graphic card wasnt even at 1gig of ram for the randoms pc owner ! But i'll be more than happy to be wrong and learn a feww things about it ! But i'm sure the first 3d engine weren't 3d at all and use a trick to rendering false 3d ! You know that's why you can't have bullet impact on the wall or smoke grenade ... it's particule rendering or 3d object with own physic wich the game can copy and lie about but can not do by the way redering doom is ; Just like the video say the game is 2d :/

*mars

a bundle of neurons is not going to be formulating conscientious memories or thoughts or feelings.

@@SobeCrunkMonsterprove it

​@@Nobddylet me lower your neuron count to >2000 ,and see how much you remember

​@@chilling_at_pontiffThe number of cells has very little to do with their function. A dog's brain is way bigger than a rat's, but they aren't significantly smarter.

Hello future history teachers :D

doom is the way to go

how ominous, our doom starts in doom

Sci fi horrors beyond our comprehension coming soon 💀💀💀

Agreed.

Or you could take the best specimens and turn them against actual people to conquer the world.

​@@Dengar97they would only know how to play Quake, tho!

Ultimate war machine

@@Dengar97I don’t want to take the best specimens and turn them against actual people, Spider-Man!

And then release them into multiplayer

Yeah it would be pretty fucked up if that thing was actually sentient, if not I guess it’s fine

Read any Peter Watts?

There’s so much potential here, this development could usher in a new age. Giant mother brain computer mechs

imagine playing the next cod game in 2074 using a gaming pc with brain matter in it

you mean "psychopass"?

Make the rat make a program architecture capable of making architecture to create more rat programs

Imagine you just gain consciousness and you see your rat mother spinning into the void with a tpose

@@kentozapater8972 for all you know I’m actually spinning rat that’s been given RU-vid access

I USED THE RAT TO MAKE THE RAT

@@Partyturtle357 yes

This is what the neurons are experiencing "You have been selected to become Doomguy!" "Huh, what???"

@@Twekion what if neurons could learn to make RU-vid comments. anyone one of us could just be a pile of bottled robot flesh and no one would know

It's highly exaggerated. Most functioning, like the idea of aiming and firing is based on binary computer logic. Only dedicated decision-making might add a tiny bit to what otherwise would be a program with some RNG-trickery.

@@manuell3505 You missed the joke buddy 😅

@@armanazmiibnamin1108 And that is? Calling bs...

oh no a smart person

I find this stuff fascinating, i have one more year of high-school and plan on going into biomedical engineering, i feel i know what it's about pretty well but I'd love if you could spare the time to explain some of the things you and/or your colleagues do in as much detail you seem fit. Thanks in advance.

@@Jason-rp3jg no but they might actually do something with this idea instead of "can you run doom on a brain" (and j realise that theyre making the brain cells play doom instead of run it I used 'run doom' to emphasize the meme origin of this)

oh no I'm scared of what your ideas may be

@@jan-Sopija yeah like helping paralyzed people interact with the world in unique and useful ways. The applications of using cells with computers and stuff as well as modifying them are endless.

But can it run Doom?

Nice joke! 😂

Ever tried dmt?

@@Jakub98x how would I ever be able to afford that

@@Egg_fanatic I don't think it's unaffordable lol

😂

let me guess you dont play a lot of video games

I think that the explanations are quite excellent, therefore making them man-made horrors within my comprehension ://

I'm so sorry, hope you make it out of there

Noone expects Spanish Inquisition

Arriba España!

Sabes de algún canal o blog sobre ciencia neuronal o organoides neuronales en español? El tema me parece alucinante

Also, does using human neurons matter at this point, or is it more a matter of how many neurons you can cram into it?

@@Nerdnumberone I would assume human neurons are better at doing what they do because they need to organize in a more complex way in the brain and so they are better at creating useful connections... As for the pain thing I think that you would need to have a real brain to have the "pain problem": it would have to be really complex to begin suffering I think, and also if you tune the system right even if it had self consciousness (that I think is needed to suffer) you would not need to make it really suffer: it's enough to make an error create an unpleasant situation and a correct response a pleasant one I think, no need for pain

@@the_devolper all things suffer, on with the torture

@@coyotedomino brutal bro brutal.... Love it

A brain can't actually feel pain. It would need pain receptors.

He is going to release hell on earth

Well I can comprehend these horrors just fine, must be a skill issue 😎

I might even kiss them on one of their many mouths

>man-made >beyond comprehension Pick one.

@@sanstheblaster2626 RU-vid is man-made, yet its algorithms are not fully understood by anyone on the planet. Current LLMs like gpt 4 are also man-made, and their algorithms are not understood at all. Man-made =/= comprehensible

i wont be suprised if a single neuron can beat a team of game journalist in a game

@@defintlynoob4263 A single neuron is still more neurons than a team of game journalists, so...

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A bundle of rat neurons*

carmack is from the 5th dimension he already knew

Incorporeal entity John carmack knows everything.

"Arrooo" - Nixon's head

I’m gonna turn into a robobrain

lol

The brain in a vat is a philosophical thought experiment and while certainly interesting, shall remain as such for quite a while, as keeping a mammalian brain alive in vitro would require some substantial leaps in science - not even mentioning the ethical concerns. Grown neuronal networks have nothing compared to the highly specialized cell types, nuclei and networks (and much more) we possess.

​@@kekekessashut up im gonna be a cool robot

imagine training against a living trained clone of your cells in video games or cooping with one

@@Blueness1230 we both know thats a lie

I would settle for sperm races instead of horse races.

I want to do this

He's going to Prestige himself into a jar. Worse, he's going to convince his lab partners to join him.

@@Jason-rp3jg most people today would likely be uncomfortable with the notion of grafting a human brain permanently into a computer. Especially in this format, where it's freedom is so dramatically reduced.

​@@irmatrollIf he and his partners don't have the morality and self control to stop themselves from doing this. They need to be involuntarily hospitalized. They are not well, they need help because this is pure sociopathy and something no one should ever even consider. They have lost it. I hope they realize the consequences of their actions are vile and reprehensible so they can get the therapy and psychiatric help they desperately need.

​@@thechazz3230you can't stop science m8

In the next 1000 years humans will be the test choice

@@muguly4591we already are the test of choice.

@@ClancayCargo yeah but it's getting worse and worse and people are going to normalize it and then we're screwed

That or Skyrim

Doom is eternal

Black mirror for real

@@Fangyuan838you reminded me of the SOMA game, you should probably check it out if you haven’t. Touches upon storing your mind as a file.

Man made horrors beyond our comprehension - or wonders beyond our comprehension. It just depends on whether humanity continues to value human/sentient rights.

Sick. I don't believe experience is sacred if it even exists in some meaningful way. So bring it

Remember the AI replicators on StarGate SGI ???

Botlzmann brain-like paradox

Stop talking you electron stimulant I’m the one true vat of neurons

Literally mythought though 😂 tell me thats not what we are now 😂 they can attach the nuerons to a meat suit or a robot, we are biological technology, biological being what we can "natural" 😂

By subtracting where it is from where it isn't...

I think that it would not be that more difficult than what they are doing (obviously it is incredible in general)(I do not know basically anything on the subject apart from what they explained in the video): I think they would "just" have to make the thing bigger and write some more code that would still be similar, then I think, given that the smaller version works properly, that it should be able to play Minecraft, or at least perform relatively simple tasks in the game, like mining

human brains have neurons, so that's already happening 🤓

the neurons will "accidentally" install drop rate mods

@@TerraKnight27waiting for the day the neurons hire a rocket scientist to “debunk” their cheating scandal

Not sure how they could beat the set seed any% TAS of 20 seconds...

ME

Me! 🙋‍♀️

Literal years! So stoked

Me!!

**BORN TO DOOM**

just like me frfr

decino

You aren’t even thinking “about doom mechanics”. You’re just thinking the doom mechanics themselves

@@pisiwastaken1514 FORCED TO LEARN

yeah, guy might accidentally make doom slayer D:

Damn, sounds authentic.

Would we call that a meatsekai? 😆

Blended Rat: Blended Rat

That time I was put into a blender and transported into a video game world!