GRUBBY vs HAPPY | Winners Final - Season 2 W3 Champions Tournament 

Took us to edge of universe on ur spaceship. Onto another metaphor

It's just a game but... @FollowGrubby you should've been broke him via a knee: Happy always uses the same tactic, the same heroes. It's something wrong with balance if a known tactic can't be destroyed.

It's funny you say Happy does same strategy every time when he actually changed these games, without destroyers x)

@@alexanderwim3139 no need to whine. As I remember, orc players used to use pretty much the same strategy for every matchup for quite a long time when Grubby was pro gamer. And Undeads were severely underpowered against orc.

Hey Mr Grubber, congrats on making it to the finals and it was a treat to watch you and Happy fight and some insane micro and kiting. I hope this increase the exposure of wc3 to all ages of gamers. Younger gamers need to appreciate that newer game isn't always better

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@@g.c.s.3720 Watch whole match,it will be funny for you:)

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Damn right Happy was microing like a goddamn manager

Yeah I remember playing myself as orcs a lot years ago and I just could press feast as every one. Normally never could react on those hippos running to their units. They were too focused on heroes or pressing active abilities on regular untis.

wtf lol

Maybe the opposite. He was too aggressive. He looses his calmness. His FS being killed in the first game is a big big mistake. Happy’s army was almost destroyed.

Mrschickert if you mean mean mentally and strategically. I say yes.

Yes, i think so. That ease is missing.

@@peterbrad9727 I wouldn't say it was almost destroyed. And even with just heroes the ud player is formidable if they are deece level and lot of Mana.

Happy is just next level. Sickest micro

his best performance vs Happy was with the hh build during their showmatch a few weeks ago.

@@perotal Yeah I saw it too, but the feeling I have is that Happy adjusted his strategy and made Grubby's HH strategy much less effective. I think you can play HHs as some alternate to the cookie cutter, but imo you have a pretty tight window to wrap the game up, otherwise HHs just become food to undead heros.

Its usually obvious when you're getting rushed. These guys don't fall for such easy tactics

BRUH ITS ALREADY OUT

they have a losers bracket so the semi-final is the winners final.

yes, a same tactis actually have been destroyed by fly,lyn or even 120 orc, because they know him well n outmicro him. but same tactis being practise over thousands times n maintain high winning rate means its quite stable n scary as well

@@Vincent44483 destroyed in which tournament in the last two years ?

@@jeangoffin6110 Happy lost against Lyn 9 mounth ago and more recent vs 120orc

@@jeangoffin6110 HSL 5months ago destroyed by 120 n fly orc, lyn orc. wgl last year by fly,

@@Vincent44483 Yes but this is so rare, look at the stats. I definitely think Orcs should be buffed in any way

ud not op happy just a pro player

Happy is oP

@@bestway6032 Well Undead actually is OP and Happy is the best Undead, they just aren't so glaringly broken against Orc.

@@SaveMeXenu dont try to have an excuse because you like grubby. a lot of pro players beat happy like moon and he play ne. hitman play orc sometimes and he never lose a match so its not because ud is op its because grubby is not the player he was. he lose often and hitman play orc too and never lose.

ud is not op. a lot of pro players can win against happy. grubby just have to play better.

Nick K 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Brazoncius Roxfort I have not seen anyone in the last year get 3-4 melee. It is all the same for each race mass range and something else

@@bestway6032 UD is OP. Infi, the current world champ, specifically said Undead is by far the strongest race.

@@SaveMeXenu if infi said it must be true. moon is the strongest ne player and he can beat any kind of player who play ud. your just mad because your a fan of grubby and he lose. grubby not really good anymore that the fact

sure!....

ToD is that you?

@@SaveMeXenu don't be mad at facts bro

@@SaveMeXenu yeah dont be mad at facts. you have to accept grubby not so good and its not because ud is op

Lol if you think Happy has a simple playstyle then you need to play and watch more warcraft.

There are alot of good UD players around and you can see that this race is slightly OP, but when u take happy's winrates in comparison and watch him playing, there is nothing "simple" about his playstyle...

@@maltemeyer7526 what you mean, 1 race 1 unit for every race/strat

@@tynao2029 ud not op grubby just have to play better

@@tynao2029 so by 1 race, you mean that happy wasnt in the top 10 as NE last season? With like 90-22 stats? I wonder what you even know...

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God damnit I dont understand why you always let your kodos stay on the battlefield after they have eaten, better get them far away, stay with one for aura. Not worth it loosing so much gold and time just to get an extra shitty attack from them. I dont understand this.

Kodos add a passive aura so if they stay in the backline they can alter a fight. Plus the threat of gobbling units can be used as another weapon. Perhaps their speed could be buffed a little but there is also speed scroll. Also, not all pros can deal with kodos easily. Its the UD race that can melt them easily, though.

@@Christoff070 They have endurance aura, they don't need a speed buff lol

@@perotal true but they need all the speed they can get

Go check race win rate on wc3 champions and you'll see that orc win more often in ud VS orc 😉 BTW games with more then 200 mmr difference between players are not counted so its good stats👌. You can't say orc is weak VS ud while orc is best ud counter LOL. It feels like you never played a 1v1.

Yes thats why undead won so many tournaments in those 16 years. Total of one WCG. Check how many orcs won. And check who was always but once, best ranked UD player. Once someone asked Grubby what to do against Orcs and UD and Grubby laughed and said: lose. Ha ha ha.

Chtchav 🤦‍♂️ It has nothing to do with balance. Many mistakes were done. Grubby simple needs more practice. Then it will be all about luck on drops. I would also suggest orcs to always make the deadly combo BM + SH against players like Happy.

@@Igorsov I think you're wrong. If we make 2 AI play against each other for a long time, at some point, one will be revealed to be the strongest. The 2 IA being equals, all comes to balance. It's impossible to make a perfect balanced game. My analysis of the game tells me that Ud is favored

Chtchav I am not wrong, I know that for sure. It’s all about your skill at that particular moment. Plus luck on drops. I was like you once, crying until I saw a player who could achieve something other players couldn’t. This is how life works. Hopefully Grubby him self can explain it to you guys in a separate video. You have to be at a pro level to understand it. UD won WCG only once out of what...10 WCGs? Orc and NE were always favorable. We only have 2 pro orcs who compete at the pro scene. They are Lyn and Focus. Grubby is there too, but he doesn’t practice and doesn’t care much about tournaments these days. He is more semi-pro now. He can always beat a pro player, but it won’t be regularly. If he practice more and play more tournaments, then he will get on top level once again. We also only have 2 good NE players Moon and Lawliet. Btw, Lyn beats Happy often.

@@Igorsov It seems you're emotionaly implied and it's important for you to defend The Emperor

Chtchav Not sure what it has to do with emotions. It for sure has nothing to do with defending Happy. However, It’s true that I only watch Happy’s games. Once you see Happy’s games, it’s hard to watch other guys. Something you don’t get is that Happy’s advantage is that he makes less mistakes than other players do. That’s how he wins. They call him ”the machine” for a reason, you know....Happy is the world’s strongest Undead at this moment. Other 2 players that I really enjoyed watching are Deadman (No longer with us) and Grubby. Korean and Chinese players are great too, but there are so many of them that I prefer to watch them during major tournaments. Moon, Th000, Lyn are legends.