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Gruberova in Finale of ROBERTO DEVEREUX - Vienna State Opera 

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@twlldinbachdel
@twlldinbachdel 16 лет назад
Edita Gruberova has been singing for many years,I heard her live in the late 70's, she was brilliant. I enjoyed the end of Roberto Deveraux here,and still think she is very, very good, also a pleasure to watch.
@MisterSoprano
@MisterSoprano 16 лет назад
Now, I have seen this perfomace life, twice, in Vienna. Did not like the staging, BUT GRUBEROVA WAS OUTSTANDING - you just cannot say by listening to this video how great she was. Elisabeth has to versions of interpretation - like this one or more like Gencer+Caballe style. I like all of them,they are different-there was NEVER just one way of interpretation. And,btw.,Gruberova KNOWS what she's doing-acting a total mad queen as Elisabeth was after Robertos dead.
@baritonobelcantista
@baritonobelcantista 17 лет назад
WOW
@elisabetta611
@elisabetta611 17 лет назад
It's one thing to look at the way Donizetti's manipulated history. It's quite another to rob it of its last connections to what actually happened. And, since I do know my history, Elizabeth did speak Italian. Fluently, I might add. Elizabeth basically stopped living when Devereux was executed in 1601. That's what Donizetti used in his opera. There, DEAR.
@knurri8
@knurri8 16 лет назад
Grubi: In eines ihre viele glanzrollen! Sie IST einfach Eizabeth! Brava
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 16 лет назад
It's not a question if you agree or not, it's a matter of a generalised statement where a group of people are targeted not just because they did something trashy but also because they are European, which is a form of identity though it is not a race colour creed of religion... in the same way that Australian is. In this case it's up to me as a European and other Europeans to decide if we are offended.
@yglofmi
@yglofmi 14 лет назад
@opera75frfr je suis bien d'accord
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 16 лет назад
Yes, a generalised prejudice applied to one particular group of people, European directors in this case. As a European I find it offensive, if it was said about Australian directors you'd be offended too, I think, regardless of the this particular staging... which I do not intend to defend.
@elisabetta611
@elisabetta611 17 лет назад
And what is the opera based on again?
@MrGrub88
@MrGrub88 12 лет назад
ciao, curvarsi indietro permette di 'agganciare' meglio il fiato al diaframma...si fa per avere un appoggio migliore.....tutto è possibile, anche che la mitica Grub :-) quella sera non si sentisse troppo in forma e per ricercare meglio questo appoggio inarcava la schiena....molte vole ho visto la Gruberova fare questo....anche nel devereux del 2008 lo fa
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 17 лет назад
You are abviously bidloch reuturned with a new name. I thought we had agreed to differ, I'm not getting into this useless arguement with you again. You're not the only one who can read music! enjoy the holidays
@panpypoo
@panpypoo 13 лет назад
i movimenti delle " braccia". scusate.
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 17 лет назад
Well maybe know a lot about Donizetti, but it doessn't show! she should have known just by looking at the vocal extention of this part that it was too low for her rather high pitched soprano. Furthermore she interprets the part with very ugly sounds, ugly sounds that belong to twentieth century, they are simply out of place in Donizetti or any other composer of this period.... and it's not excused by any expressive needs
@MisterSoprano
@MisterSoprano 15 лет назад
I do know that, but she is not playing a history here. If the story does not follow the history, its Donizettis "mistake", not hers.
@panpypoo
@panpypoo 13 лет назад
ma i movimenti della signora Gruberova è giusto che sia così o aveva qualche difficoltà con l'abbigliamento oppure con la salute o ...non capisco. una diva come lei perché mai canta così curvata indietro? ciò è...inclinata indietro come se avesse gran mal di schiena e fosse bloccata così. ma non solo la postura,anche i movimenti delle bracce. tra l'altro questo non è unico filmato dove noto questa tendenza. qualcuno sa qualcosa del riguardo?
@elisabetta611
@elisabetta611 17 лет назад
The director and the singer obviously know nothing about Tudor history. I saw it live and wasn't surprised that the production was slammed by the critics.
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 17 лет назад
Heard her live, thank you! La Traviata many years ago in Venice, Though not ideal it was much better than this. In Donizetti you cannot create character by distorting the vocal line, it has no sense, honestly it has little sense in Verdi or Puccini either and you wouldn't accept it in Mozart, would you? If you want your Donizetti out of style, making excuses for the ugy sounds (which I am gald you hear) that's your choice. Anyhow we will have to agree to differ
@ransomcoates546
@ransomcoates546 3 года назад
Mistake to remove the chorus part. She needed all the cover she could get.
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 17 лет назад
Well they don't know much about Donizetti either by the looks of things, they know almost as little as Gruberova
@RoOodOoOloOmeg
@RoOodOoOloOmeg 14 лет назад
looks like the queen if Alice in wonderland.
@BEVER29
@BEVER29 12 лет назад
Bien sur il y a ceux qui s'abritent volontier derrière le "bon goût" et fustigent ce trash, cette "marginalité" d'approche. Une perception "idéaliste" du chant romantique italien se refuse à lui concéder sa part de "mauvais goût" et, par suite, à admettre qu'une artiste en assume l'expression. Le belcanto, fut il romantique, n'est jamais plus lui même qu' individualisé; "tripaille à l'air" incluse!
@LoMarRadio
@LoMarRadio 12 лет назад
Voce orrenda...che fosse in serata o no, adotta trucchi(che poi trucchi non sono se una persona ascolta bene) biechi come lo spostare indietro il corpo pre(secondo lei) prendere meglio l'attacco dell'acuto. Un gatto stretto fra un uscio..e dire che mi piaceva molto la Gruberova. Vociferante. Che abbia ancora voce ora è un dono naturale, non di certo grazie a una tecnica claudicante a dir poco. I pianissimi sono fissi, gli acuti gridati e l'acuto finale...beh..no comment..un urlo. Male!
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 17 лет назад
Nice racist generalisation thank you
@elisabetta611
@elisabetta611 17 лет назад
You challenged me, I replied in kind. I'm not one to shy away from challenges. I never called myself superior. I merely said why I dislike this production and its star.
@sebastianmelmoth685
@sebastianmelmoth685 5 лет назад
She clearly no longer has that top - why does she insist on inflicting it upon her audience? Just skip it. The rest of the performance is passable.
@carlvheerden
@carlvheerden 5 лет назад
One must also blame her management, the directors of the company, for letting her go on for so long. She had to step in to a more pedagogical role with companies a long time ago. Still adore her to the moon and back though!
@CzarDodon
@CzarDodon 17 лет назад
Merciful lord! what was all that about? Ok the director and the conductor have their share of the blame, but she is impossible, squally siren-like sounds often off pitch, vulgar in her interpretation to the point of being ridiculous, this is Donizetti not Ligeti, almost worthy of a drag queen.
@isinglouderthanu
@isinglouderthanu 17 лет назад
this is horrendous...
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