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Yeah, He missed the gear and got hung in neutral.... You can get hung in between every gear... He failed to follow through with his foot. You could hear it hitting the rev limiter. It can absolutely be done.
Although it might have been a little mistake. When that thing goes on water there is so much resistant on that band. The second there a gear is disengages the resistance slows everything down very, very fast. Which also means it will be harder to shift because it’s not like your cruising down the street on asphalt and can just limp into next gear. He needs to be super fast and use a lot more force to get it done. It probably can be done but don’t underestimate it.
Missed shift or it couldn't spin the track 🤔, why not flat shift with no clutch into 3rd it wouldn't bog when shifting as much possibly hard to know I ain't ever driven a snow bike on a lake 😂
you hit neutral.... You got hung in between 2nd and 3rd...... either start in 3rd next time or just practice shifting and make sure you don't miss this time. Or maybe 3rd was too high torque and it caused the clutches to slip? but I think he just missed the gear. It happens, that's just the worst time you want it to happen. lol
I actually didnt watch all of it but I was judging by the sound lol but yeah I'd get going in 4th or 5th first then hit the water you'd skim at 100 but f any ideas of changin gears on the water thats a serious kick to the sack waitin to happen
@@mattyfresh9698 This is what you need. It temporarily cuts the power for a mili-second and allows it to shift flawlessly without a clutch. I've used these and they work great. Makes it sound like an indy car. FULL THROTTLE SHIFTING WITHOUT A CLUTCH. www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bazzaz-qs4-quick-shifter-suzuki-gsxr1000gsx1300r-hayabusa?kclid=5c3fec98-b2e6-4c37-8bfb-b3b2af7ed62f&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9IHV4sez3gIVA49pCh0dmwZ8EAQYBSABEgIJbPD_BwE 1
@@mattyfresh9698 my stock 2004 GSXR 1000 would do 83 mph in first gear, 120 something mph in second gear. I know they probably have this thing geared down to run the track in snow, but still..
Yleiset kilju-ohjeet Näissä ohjeissa selitetään kiljun valmistus pääpiireteissään, sekä karvalakkimallin valmistus. Kirjoitan tärkeimmät asiat punaisella Tarvikkeet: Tarvitset ainakin: Käymisastia, johon kansi: (tässä tapauksessa 10L sankko, voidaan myös soveltaa, mutta raaka-ainemäärät huomioitava) Hiivaa: 2 palaa leivontahiivaa, tai 25g kuivahiivaa. Myös ns. "Super Hiivaa" voidaan käyttää, jolloin noin 1/2 pussia hiivaa ja hiivaravinteita Sokeria: n. 2kg, mieluiten glukoosia, tai taloussokeria Seuraavat välineet eivät ole pakollisia, mutta ne helpottavat ja parantavat lopputulosta Vesilukko: myydään suurissa vähittäistavarakaupoissa ja kotiviinin erikoisliikkeissä (hinta noin 1-2€) Lappo: myydään yleiskaupoissa/rautakaupoissa, kuten K-Rauta, Tarjoustalo, Halpahalli Valmistaminen: Päivä 1. 1. Ota 10L vetoinen käymisastia, laske sinne hanasta 8L kädenlämpöistä,- eli n. 38°C vettä 2. Lisää veden sekaan sokeri sekoittaen 3. Odota, että vesi on noin 30-34 asteista (palahiiva kuolee 36 asteessa, kuivahiiva kestää 42 astetta, mutta 45 sekin kuolee varmasti) 4. Lisää astiaan hiivat, sekoita 5. Tee astian kanteen yksi reikä, halkaisijaltaan noin 1,5cm (Jos tätä kohtaa ei tehdä, käymisastian sisällä muodostuu noin 80L hiilidioksidia ja muita kaasuja ja astia räjähtää paineen seurauksena) älä tee liian suurta reikää; käyminen on an-aerobinen prosessi, joten liika hapen määrä astian sisällä aiheuttaa etikoitumisen ja kiljun pilaantumisen. Jos sinulla on vesilukko, kiinnitä se tähän reikään, tiivistä vesilukon ja kannen reijän välinen alue kuuma,- tai pikaliimalla. Kaada vesilukko noin puolilleen vettä. Nyt odotellaan 7-12 päivää (jos käytit Super Hiivaa, niin 3-7 päivää) Tällä ajalla voi vaikka kerätä kavereistaan porukan nauttimaan kiljua, sitä päivää varten, kun se valmistuu :). Päivä 7-12 (tai 3-7). 1. Tähän vaiheeseen päästään, kun vesilukosta ei enään pulputa, kuin pari satunnaista kuplaa minuutissa, tai kannen avattuasi neste on kirkasta ja ei vaahtoa 2. Ota suuri lusikka/kauha, sekä pulloja tai laseja joihin haluat annostella valmiin kiljun 3. Ota lusikalla/kauhalla hyvin varovasti kiljua aluksi pinnasta, sitten keskiväliltä, mutta kun nestettä on enään noin 3cm pohjan korkeudesta, niin et ennään koske siihen, koska se on hiivasakkaa, joka pilaa kiljun maun. Jos sinulla on lappo:nosta astia varovasti korkeammalle, kuin pullo/lasi mihin aijot kiljun siirtää. Pistä lapon pää astiassa olevan kiljun pinnalle, ota pullo/lasi valmiiksi viereesi, imaise voimakkaasti lapon päästä. Kun teet näin, kiljun pitäisi imeytyä lappoon ja sitten sitten siirrät nopeasti lapon pään pulloon/lasiin. Kiljua alkaa siirtyä nopeasti lapon välillä . Varo ettei käymisastiassa oleva pää missään vaiheessa mene liian lähelle (noin 3cm) lähelle pohjaa, koska muuten sakka sekoittuu kiljun ja joudut odottamaan sen tasaantumista tuskallisen hitaat 5-7 tuntia :S. Tällä ohjeella saat itsellesi n. 8L kiljua. Tämän kiljun kirkkaus on parhaimmillaan luokkaa 5/10 (kelvollinen)
Daaaamn guys i was so thrilled to see the 3rd gear. I bet that it would easily go with it, maybe even the 4th. Only issue is that is there enough room for "exit water" between carpet and swingarm and all the other..things. That there would not be excessive resistanse. Allright u got few options for another try: shift without clutch, use quick shifter or start from further away from land and if needed slide the clutch with allready 3rd gear. Anyway, good luck for another try. Veri fääst, big bools, big goals
@@gadsdenjim8785 why would you want more top speed ? they can not get out of first gear , ,they need to lower the gearing and start in second , to eliminate the issue of neutral when shifting up under load ,
Or with how close they were they could just go up one tooth on front and stay in second gear, would still beat the record and wouldn't change ratio enough to bog. We're talking about less than 1 mph
you need to sit as far back as you can when shifting so the front ski doesn't hit the water. that's why when we do it on snowmobiles we pull the front suspension up.
You gotta speedshift. Don't let off throttle. Maybe, don't even use clutch... Just shift. So the track doesn't stop for that quick second in between gears
Are these guys Polish? Eastern European? Guy had no presence of mind to make CERTAIN the darn thing shifted a gear? 1 gear! The shift of his life! I expect a sequel: Polish guys learns to shift dogbox
Wait you sunk it twice than, because you made a video that suzuki gsxr 1000 is the best bike in the world and in that video it sunk but it was a different video, so after being at the botom of the lake twice it still works or was it only once?
(please like so that the guys can see it) Dont know if this is a really bad idea, however, would it be possible to launch the bike further back on land and get it up to third before you even hit the water? Maybe you could build a slowly decending ramp to to get a more soft transition from land to water? So that you dont just flip over due to the diffrence in friction. I think Guy Martin did something like that when he tried to ride a normal dirtbike on water. Great attempt though!! @stuntfreaksteam
Some old guy sitting on a dock fishing while sipping good booze and smoking his prescription is wondering why do kids theses days get all the fun toys?
he hit a false neutral. technically you can hit neutral between every gear. he was bouncing off the rev limiter cause it was in neutral not because he downshifted.
Chunky Panda WHAT? Warped cylinders? Anybody ever heard of a warped cylinder? Hydrolocked=bent or broken connecting rod. Please educate me how does an engine that ingested water, warp the cylinders. Sunk a few snowmachines waterskipping and never had a problem pull spark plugs drain everything turn over motor or blow out with compressed air replace fluids and spark plugs and back on water in less than an hour. Water skip, sink, rinse and repeat!
Like the other guy said start out in 3rd next time we're practice shooting from 2nd and 3rd but when you let out that clutch and third all it did was spend the belt if you would have went from a second and shift it normal and letting the third easy track would have probably had time to grab the water and keep purporting you through the water hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say not being mean or anything like that
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There is no reason why it wouldnt shift. He just cant shift. You don't need a quick shifter installed. Just blip the throttle down a bit then back up real quick while shifting up without using the clutch. It goes right into gear immediately. Practice doing it before going onto the water. I actually can't believe he screwed that up. Wasn't expecting that.
Did he kill it before he sucked up any water? ..that's a shitty feeling when you know you're sinking.. Are there any sprockets you can go up or down with to take some torque out of 2nd gear and speed it up or vice versa to 3 gear? Man, when it bogged down, it happened fast. Huh? Would he have been able to save it had he down shifted back into 2nd gear in time? ..or is it a commitment thing and there's no going back?
Why? Bikes have more power, it's just getting the shifting of gears right, to match a desirable full load on the engine at just the right rpm to achieve the highest top speed possible. That bike will do over 180 mph stock off the show room floor, 83 in first gear and 120 in second, that's way too high of gearing to run a track in snow let alone water. They obviously have it geared down but still..
It's more a problem of suspension and track. A Summit 850 154+ would dominate this bike. You can make a race bike "work" as a snowmobile but it has too much torque, unpractical gearing, no CVT (beyond the ratios), not enough rear suspension travel and the track is too small. I mean it's a nice project from a hobbyist point of view but practically speaking this will never outperform a snowmobile on water or snow. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iRonRtbnI9A.html
@@DickCheneyXX I don't know if you're getting the point here, I think their goal along with what I want to see is to get the fastest speed across the water possible. My point was about the impractical gearing, but I'm sure lower gearing can be worked out. In the video he hit false neutral while shifting between gears, the high load from the track in the water was probably a lot to do with that. They need to install a Quickshifter and try again, it might just work then. Yes, a cvt might make sense in concept, but they have limitations also, like they have limitations on top speed potential, they get hot and slip, there's a lot less power loss with a mechanical gear box. I don't see any issue with the suspension, a stock GSXR 1000 has around 5 inches of travel on both ends, this should be enough, what it the problem with this, these bikes have very high-tec and well engineered suspensions, they are probably vastly superior to what's on any sled out there. I guess it could possibly be too stiff and harsh for bumps or waves out on the lake, but revalving and maybe a set of softer springs can solve that, it would take some testing and trial-and-error to find the best setup, hell It probably needs to be stiffer, The Wave Runner doesn't have any suspension! It looks like they scavenged a complete track setup off another sled and retrofitted it to the bike and so it may have the rear suspension from whatever sled they took it from ( maybe it was from the sled in your video link, it would have been a good candidate) I also beg to differ a wider track wouldn't allow a higher top speed on the water as it might offer more resistance, again testing and trial-and-error is needed. I did a little research on the Ski-Doo example you provided and it looks like it falls short in almost every way other than the concept of a constant velocity transmission. The bike they are using in this video is a second-generation GSXR 1000, those were only made 2003 and 2004, that bike stock made over a 150 hp at the rear tire. Some modern 1000cc bikes today with some mods are pushing past the 200 rear wheel hp mark. The specs on the Ski-Doo sled say a dry weight of 439 lbs, very similar to my 2004 GSXR 1000 with a full tank of gas weighs 441 lbs. I bet the track adds a bit. I couldn't find any info on horsepower specs on the Ski-Doo. If anyting my bike was lacking in low-end torque, under 5000 RPM there's virtually no power at all, it's all at high rpm, it's definitely probably a challenge to keep it revved up and in the powerband out in the water. The most that I can find on the top speed on the Ski-Doo from others on the Internet is that it's around the 90 to 100 mph zone. I'm pretty damn sure after they get all the bugs worked out, the bike can do well over 100mph on the water, I bet others could do over 120. So you see, the sled falls short in almost every way for this job, they just don't have enough power or speed capabilities to beat the bike.
Walker Forsyth really? The new 800/850cc 2 strokes are all 165-175hp now, now the track, skip a 16" wide 154" track along water, or a 120" 13" or 14 wide track just turns into a knife, old 340cc sleds can waterskip for miles with 40hp, the underside of the tub, bulkhead and everything is rounded to be able to surface when you pound through deep snow, a bigger track on a sled doesn't turn into more drag, it turns into a bigger area, staying on top instead of trenching in the water requires alott less hp, 600cc 2 stroke 120kmhr records on RU-vid idk where they think it's a record
i thought jet skies where limited to like 59 or 69mph by the US Coast Guard? obviously this ski isnt one of the big boys. also, why not hit the water in 2nd...?
