This needs to be a $15 - $20 option from the manufacturer. Cheap enough for the consumer to afford, expensive enough for the manufacturer to make a small profit.
Hey Karl, great video of how to make this rig a more solid rig. I just got the new csl pedals with load cell and was using a wheel stand. I just ordered the art cockpit with the xl seat and used your discount code. Thanks for saving me 35 bucks. Im going to follow this video once I get my new rig and brace it just like you did. Now all I need is the fanatec wheel. I am all in for sim racing now and I partially blame you Karl. Sim racing is too much fun. Thanks for making such in depth videos. Cheers.
I love how you have taken a budget rig and made it work better than its initial design. I have a desk setup, but have been considering a rig for my man cave. I am more partial to the round tubular metal rigs. But, You have me thinking about this style rig.
Recently upgraded to a DD wheel and the increased force was making my ART jump all over the place. Remembered watching this video when I was first shopping for a cockpit. I added bars on the sides and it worked wonders. Going to add the cross bracing next, thanks a ton Karl!
I was super worried about the wobble, but after this video you convinced me to pull the trigger. Not only did I get the discount from your link but it stacked with the Black Friday 10% off, cant complain! Thanks from the west coast of the US! haha
Great video, thanks for this easy fix, I just got through setting up the ART and will receive the wheel and peddles today, I made a venture out into my wood shop being a wood working and found some strips of walnut will that will work nicely for those braces, being it's a hard wood they should be hardy enough to do the job. One other thing that I did was to add Johnson Paste Wax to the table rails to help them slide up and down better. JPW is a great lubricant and will last forever without any mess. I just dipped my finger down into the can and wiped it around inside of the upright tubes and used a paper towel to wipe it on all sides of both rails and it slides up and down nicely no binding.
Update, I have a short stature so I found that leaving the wheel mount down inside of the rails at it's lowest position fit myself nicely, By doing so there's no wobble up and down but side to side there is, so it looks like I may only need support for side to side movement.
The cross bars are a good idea! You could also use a plate wide enough for 4 bolt holes. Then you could probably mount more things to it. I really enjoy watching your videos. You always explain things perfectly. Well done!
I know i came late but your videos just convinced me to buy the ART cockpit. Great videos the ones you do. Just liked and followed. Too bad prices went up in these two years.
Hey Karl, Thanks for all the clear reviews, been looking for an entry level cockpit to get started with sim racing for a while now and there is so much to choose from, it's nuts... Settled on the GT Omega ART Cheers and keep up the good work!
Hello Karl I can honestly say thank you for the information on your video as I have the art cockpit and did have a thrustmaster tx then upgraded to a simagic alpha with your ideas for the braces it's fine for even the simagic great helpful video 👍
Actually for the side to side movement elimination at the bottom of the upright tubes for the monitor mount these tubes are directly over top of the bottom horizontal tube that ties the two sides together. You can use 4 flat "L" braces to tie these uprights on both the front side and rear side of the horizontal crosstube which will eliminate all of the side to side flex in the wheel stand uprights as it basically ties these parts together as one solid assembly rather than the stock assembly which only uses a single bolt on the outside of the horizontal lower bar acting as the anchor. Really simple, only cost a few dollars to buy the brackets and drill a few holes to mount with sheet metal screws and eliminates the play inherent to the original assembly. If you just look at the design it is really easy to see how this is such a good addition even if you still want to do the X crossbar addition higher up as well.
dude btw i have a G920 now with the shifter its amazing ive learned how to drift in FH4 and set it up for roblox and beamng drive im getting asseto corsa and carx drift racing online and more games for xmas this year i cant wait :D
I have a replica of this rig with a csl dd 8nm and I love it. Racing now a year on it, but it is flexing allot. Just put some bike straps on it to test it out. In the future I will buy the support bars, single screen mount and make a cross bar. The straps are a temporary thing because I noticed it puts allot of stress on the rig. Also the straps are in a cross in between my legs, it's hard to get in and out.
hey Karl! love the vids man! I just bought the new fanatec dd pro gt and this exact rig to go with it, based on your reviews!! they should be delivered this week and im beyond stoked! i started with a G29 and an amazon wheel stand, sold that, and now im in $1500 deep, so yes, this hobby, is a very slippery slope hahaha. Im very handy like you, and ill be doing these upgrades to the rig as soon as it arrives. Cheers from Atlanta Georgia! thanks for the vids and keep up the good work!
@@donaldlaury7193 well I’ve had the completed rig for about 2 weeks now and it’s incredible! The 5nm power pack is the perfect amount of feedback for me. I will be getting the load cell brake pedal and the csr Xbox wheel soon so I can play on ps5, series x, and pc. Absolutely no complaints though and once you go direct drive, you never go back. I also built a heavy duty platform with 5 inch caster wheels for the gt omega art because my tv is above my fire place so I needed it up off the ground a bit and having the mobility is awesome. My place isn’t enormous so being able to wheel it into my laundry room and get it out of the way is crucial. But anytime someone comes over and sees the rig, it’s the first thing they wanna do haha it’s fun for hours.
13:33 With those massive muscles you've got I got really scared at this part thinking the steering wheel was gonna explode in a million pieces! I was shouting "Don't break it!"
While I don't have a GT Omega cockpit, your improvements helped me realize that my wheel stand wants side-to-side bracing; thanks for championing budget sim racing!
ive got a art aswell, alot of flex when using a csl dd 8nm and the shifter / handbrake mount is just awul, i reinforced it all with square tubing inside of another so its still adjustable works like a charm now
Just did this, could only get 5mm thick steel from my local hardware store rather than 6mm but it has made a huge difference. I race in VR so i can't see a difference but the wheel definitely feels like its got an extra nm or so now those forces aren't just being lost in flex. Great idea.
Same here. I already bought wheel n peddles. Just need to buy chair and frame. I’m probably gonna buy the Sr6 seat setup from the Omega website. I’m probably gonna buy it tomorrow, after I call them . Itching to use my first ever racing wheel 😁
I was looking at the Thrustmaster TS-PC wheel and T-LCM pedals but everything seems to be unavailable. I’ve looked at countless rigs but nothing jumps out. I wanted to try my VR headset in a racing game but looks like I’ll be waiting a while! Good luck with your setup 👍🏻
have you considered the Logitech g29 wheel and peddle set? If so, it’s on Amazon U.K. usually £300 but reduced to £215 right now. I bought a set but I’m not setting it up until I get my racing seat and from for GtOmega website. Whatever you decide, hope it goes well. I actually didn’t look at loads of rigs, as I find it hard to decide. I’ve never owned a racing wheel setup, so I’m sure I’ll be happy with what I’m buying from GtOmega store.
I’ve owned a rig before and I paired it with a Fanatec Forza CSR wheel and elite pedals (which had a load cell). I found the rig uncomfortable and ironically I was slower in Forza with a wheel versus a joypad. It’s the old Thrustmaster vs Fanatec debate. I’d like to try before I buy but that’s not possible. I don’t think the Logitech offering would be bad, but I’ve owned the Fanatec in the past so I’m looking for something premium. I’ll keep researching and see where it takes me.
They should implement these in the package, can't cost much, don't weigh much but add so much stability, great solution. I would want black ones though.
Great video. After racing since 1997 in PlayStation i recently upgraded from a table and built a wooden rig under two hours including purchase of materials and assembly. After testing on ACC and GT Sport i found the rig to be very stable. It's not entirely completed as i intend to build a pedal box to mount the pedals similar to a real car for more immersion.
@@KarlGosling I posted a video on my channel of gameplay GT Sport time trial at Tsukuba with improvement after the brake pedal mod on g29. I was able to measure the brake input on Dirt Rally 2.0 which showed 75% brake application after the Modification. I'll probably post a short vid on that as well. For comparison on Dirt Rally I competed two stages on World Series out of three and was able to massively improve performance over my friend after the pedal mod so it made a difference and I'm now better able to trail brake with the g29 evidence with my latest GT Sport video with gr3 Viper at Spa Fia Nations race against faster opposition where i qualified 11th and finished P6. with a one stop strategy. Finally able to tire save on G29. Massive thanks for the cheap brake modification tip.
another excellent modification there karl,my rig is almost a mirror image of this set up,apart from the moving device ,i have all other mods the same,and i will now add this strenghtning mod also,i have the wind and four trancducers fitted.cheers karl.
For anyone watching this GT Omega released a reinforcement similar to what Karl made, it bolts on the monitor bars as well. I ordered it to see if it really helps with the slight wobble and flex the stand has
@@TheSteleaf it is not too bad to be honest, very little flex . Untill i upgrade to an 8020 rig i am more than happy with it. Hope it helps. Cheers buddy.
Hi Karl, thanks for the videos on the Art rig, helped me make the decision to buy one. Like you I’ll be getting the monitor mount and going slightly over spec - I’m mounting a 55” Samsung Qled to it, so I plan to replace the vertical bars with longer sections. Do you happen to know what size the vertical square sections are that make up the monitor mount? Thanks, Dave
Just ordered the fanatec DD 8NM base. Do you know if the wheel plate has the proper mounting holes for fanatec or should I be prepared to drill some holes?
This is a good example of how to solve the biggest problem with good thinking DIY. But I'm searching for a way to reinforce pedal tray for this cockpit. I'm upgrading my pedals to Sprints and I know there will be a lot of flex if I don't do something.
You know those adjustment bolts used on child gates that allow you too fit them in varying widths of gap? yeah, i used two of those for my Art pedal plates, they were perfect, no flex at all 👍
I got at Art cockpit and a TS-PC already, and I just have to do this mod! Excellent video! Can you provide links to the specific products you bought on Ebay for the braces? I cant seem to find something similar.
Really enjoying your videos, and thanks for the GT Omega promo code! I already have this rig and planning to upgrade to Logitech G Pro (DD with 11nm force). Do you think it will hold up with this mod?
You have to be an engineer right? The terminology you use and your understanding of physics. How does the GT Omega Art compare to the GT Track from next level? Or a better comparison would be the GT Omega Prime vs the GT Track.
Hey, nice review. Unfortunately the ebay link is not working anymore, where is the best place to take them bars from? I am in the UK. Thanks in advance
Great video. I just watched this as I have flex issues with my X Rocker wheel stand. Your mods canbe used on my rig. Can I ask what the black ducting is used for as that looks great.
I've been looking on the GT Omega website, as I am interested in buying this rig. It looks like they now offer a support system add on using these mounting holes, so it appears they are aware of this issue. The part is currently priced at £31.46 for the pair of supports.
Yeah I watched that video recently. Hopefully they will come back in stock soon as I would like to get this rig with the supports. I think I will use your idea for the horizontal cross bracing as that seems like a useful improvement.@@KarlGosling
I am considering purchasing the Omega ART cockpit and doing the flex removal mods you are talking about. In your opinion, do you think it would support a DD wheel with these modifications? Nice videos BTW, super informative
@@KarlGosling awesome, thanks for the info. Currently running CSW 2.5 but thinking of going either DD1 or simucube 2 Pro in the future. I picked this rig because it splits apart and I can store it in the closet when not in use for a while, unless there is another rig you can suggest like that. thanks for the info
@@elliotlevine8792 I used it with CSL DD w/ boost kit (8 Nm) and now a Simagic Alpha Mini (10-13 Nm) without any issues. It might flex when you crash into a wall at 250 kph but at that point it just adds to the realism
@@racdude01 I didnt add any bracing to it, though I did add a couple of small pieces of flat metal to raise the rear of the pedals up. If anything, that makes it less stiff because the pedal plate is no longer between the sides of the rig (it's "floating")
I was hoping to get the Titan, but sees to be out of stock. Do you think, with this mod, the Art would be stable enough for a Fanatec CSL Elite wheel base and loadcell break pedal? I appreciate your time, love the channel!
Great Video. Do you think its worth spending the extra £100 or so on the titan over the ART with these mods. I plan on moving to a Moza R9 down the line, and the other half is not sold on the aluminium profile look.
@@KarlGosling Thanks for the help on this, your videos are some of the best I have seen for honest race sim equipment reviews. Went for the TITAN in the end with your discount!
So it would still tip side to side after these upgrades with a direct drive wheel? That's a bummer, because I have the Omega and am about to get a direct drive wheel.
I know you've sold this one I think but can you remember if you could directly bolt Heusinkveld pedals to the plate or should I get the mounting plate from Heusinkveld
Hi Karl, I’ve watched another review on the Art cockpit and they have said there is some flex between the seat half and the wheel / pedal half of the cockpit! (I.e when you push hard on brake pedal the middle section of the cockpit on the floor lifts up) have you noticed this or not due to your motion platform? Love the vids by the way!
I've never experienced this even before my motion platform, but I can see why you might, I think it might be because I'm on castors and the weight is distributed differently? Thanks mate! :)
Hi Karl, i know this is very late to the party but i was hoping if you might have had a chance to put DD wheel on this braced rig, if so how did the stability hold up?
Thank you very much. Can I ask, how did you mount your V3 pedals? I bought an ART last week but am struggling to get my pedals mounted and keeping them still.
I'd have to check but I think only two bolts lined up with the pre-drilled slots so I then used two cable ties at the other end, once done up tight they do not move at all, the rubber feet really help a lot too.
Karl, on a laminate floor, if you had to choose between the GT mat or casters, which would you go for please? My rig is sure to damage my floor, unless I choose one or other ;-) cheers
Hello Karl, was wondering, is this the only way that the ART is viable? I want to get the ART and the monitor bracket but I am no good at things like this, hopefully you see this. Thank you in advance
Sorry mate the link is just a courtesy shortcut to get you to ebay, depending on your individual setup (wheel deck height and monitor stand) you'll need different length steel to make the side braces and different length bolts for the cross brace, so you just need to measure up and get what you need mate.