Thanks for the info. I have a 2019 with two signatures so was confused whether or not I had the GT350R motor. After checking the sticker I confirmed I had a Gen 2 GT350R motor build on January 8th, 2019. Awesome car!
Bill - I'm considering buying a pre owned GT350 but have concerns about the engine reliability. How many miles do you have on your GT350? Any issues? Thank you
2016 gen 1. Daily driver, occasion canyon crushing. No oil consumption but I DID have to replace my power steering mechanism, clutch, and injectors so far. I love my car
Glad I found this video. Picked my 16’ up in September with 6500 miles and just had the major oil consumption issue. Luckily it was certified and had extended warranty so I’m getting a new engine.
I just picked up a 2016 certified, 1 year bumper to bumper….. can I have this checked now so I don’t miss it after my warranty is up? What do I need to do?
A 2016? How long are they honoring the engine warranty replacement? Obviously no mods including tuner changes to ECU are allowed. I was thinking to pick up a 2017 gt350!
Interesting and informative vid. I have a 2016 GT 350. I purchased the car used with a little more than two thousand miles on it. I now have close to 23K miles and my oil consumption is moderate. I use this vehicle as a daily driver. I run Mobile 5-50W. I check my oil level regularly based on comments similar to what you state in your video. However, I must be lucky because I have never added a quart of new oil every 500 miles since owning the car. Maybe every few thousand at best. This car has not been tracked so maybe that makes a big difference. My chassis was number 13 off the line so I had to get an early version of the Gen 1 Voodoo motor. Thanks again for your excellent feedback.
@@NanuGarage I like the color package of your ride. This is just an awesome, fun car. One of the best balanced hot rods I have had the pleasure to both own and drive. Enjoy yours to the max and keep the good vids coming.
I also have a 2016 Track Pack. Never had any oil consumption issues. I really don’t over-rev the car either. Usually shift at 4,500 rpm. Maybe I’m lucky also…
I love my 350. Bought it new. I have a gen2 motor now. 3qts in 500miles. It happened at 8k miles before that no issue. Now shes twin turbo. Hella happy. Love this car. Keep it up man.
Bought my 2017 gt350 in 2019 as a lemon, first owner blew the engine, I knew it had the upgraded cartridge oil filter, but nice to know Ford rebuy put a full gen2 in.
2020 Gen 2. Don’t track it, but frequently take it to 8000 rpm. No oil consumption. I can go 5000 miles between oil changes and no change on the dip stick. Get about 3/4” of oil in the passenger side catch can every 500 miles.
Good to know brother, great video, mine is 2018, according to label my engine was built April 12th 2018, I got a Gen 1, currently at 10,716 miles no oil consumption at all, mostly hard driven!
Dude that's awesome! I misread my engine date and it was actually 269 instead of 209. Mine was made on September 26th of 2017. Mine is driven hard too but unfortunately, mine consumes about a quart and a half per 500 miles (driving hard). I'm not worried about it right now, I just hope it doesn't get worse. I'm at 9600 miles so we are pretty close.
@@NanuGarage wow I’d say that’s kind of a lot, one quart and a half every 500? As a safety precaution I’d take it to the dealer have them do an oil consumption test, they should do it under warranty. Had a friend who had it done on his 2017 and it turned out ok. For what I’ve seen it is a hit or miss type of deal with these engines, personally I don’t know anyone with any oil consumptions, have a friend who has a 2017 pro charged 2017 GT350 Gen 1 at a 900hp no issues with his engine yet, (stock engine) actually he has a RU-vid channel it’s called prochargedbeast if I recall right. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nZ46QxXAtcA.html
@@Orangefurygt350 ok cool I have seen his youtube channel before. I'll take a look at the oil consumption more closely. I feel part of it because I put a super hard 500 miles, but I will see soon how much oil is left after 500 miles of moderate driving. Hopefully nothing wrong, but if something is then I look forward to that gen 2 lol.
Ditto. Mine is in the same time period and no substantial oil consumption. I don't drive the piss out of it (occasional track days, some spirited driving etc).
I got a 2016 avalanche grey 350 and another big problem with the gen1s was, the oil filter would come loose on its own. It would back its self our of the threads and yes this happen to me. You will just have to order the kit Ford sells for a new oil filter mount. And then you will be able to use the gen2 oil filters
I forgot to mention this too. Thanks for the information. I wasn’t aware that you could get a conversion kit for the new design. It sucks that your oil filter spun off. I’m glad you have the new design now.
Thanks man very helpful. I was wondering how to go about finding that sticker. I love it when people are informative on these how to videos. From one Indian to another, well done!
great video nanu my gen 1 blew due to oil pump seizing a during cold start so the top half of the block was completely dry when the pistons destroyed it from the inside
Awesome information since I am purchasing one that had the engine replaced already by Ford. It’s a 2017 and it made me nervous but the car only had 21,000 miles! I am confident in purchasing since they also have a manufacturer buy back guarantee! Ford is awesome!
Hey man, great video and breakdown. I Have a 2017 gt350 that let go in 2019 around 8 thousand miles. My dealership replaced the motor under warranty and the new motor doesn’t consume any oil. I popped the cover off and it reads KA 555 GT350R. So I guess I got the gen 2. Love the car, might keep it forever.
Question. I just bought a 2016 with 12k miles , 1 year bumper to bumper. What do I need to do now to make sure I don’t fall victim to this before my warranty is up? Ford certified as well.??
A A - I'm considering buying a pre owned GT350 but have concerns about the engine reliability. How many miles do you have on your 2nd motor GT350? Any issues? Thank you
Excellent vid. I have a 2017 which I track regularly. If the oil level is even slightly low, check engine light will come on. Add oil immediately or risk your motor! Also, if you track, don't be sloppy with downshifts, heel/toe, etc. Diff and tranny can overheat easily and car will go into 'limp mode'. Not good. Thanks, Nanu!
Thanks for this video! I recently bought a 2017 GT350 with 8K miles on it. It's odd as a 2017, the numbers on my block are: Rep 5.2L GT350R KA 555 AA EF0AA 21032220020 I guess that means I have a Gen2 engine right? Do you happen to know if the Gen2 has a different oil filter from Gen1? I'm gonna go check (Now that you showed us it's that easy) but curious if you know. Great video man!
I was putting 1 and 1/2 quart every 500 miles and Ford said that was normal!😮 I traded my 2017 Gt 350 with 40,000 miles for a Model Y performance. The only thing I miss is that wonderful v8 sound! I would love to get another one if it has a gen 2 motor 😊Thanks for the information. subscribed 😊
Back in the day your hi perf engines will use 1 - 1.5 qt per 800-1,000 miles. If you go thru 2-3qts in 300-500-600 miles you have an oil leak. A bad Oil filters is an issue , gasket leaks issues , oil seals issues ,etc etc.
So the oil in burning in the combustion chamber with the gas. So it clearance between the piston and the cylinder wall gap when the engine expands? Whoa. I still the 350 though. Still want one.
Very informative thank you… be careful tho … my 2017 ran great pulls hard no issue I only noticed very faint black smoke clouds at high rpms and I only have 10,900 miles on it currently and I was consuming 2-3 quarts every 1000 miles car has never been tracked just street driven all original tires from 2017 and oil changed by Ford every 1,500 miles ..so meaning car hasn’t been beat on and Ford bore scoped my block by pulling the plugs and found cylinder wall scratching and 4 out of 8 cylinders failed compression due to ring failure and scratching of the cylinder walls …it’s currently getting a gen 2 motor … again car ran completely fine …. After I bought it off the showroom floor and put 2000 miles on it roughly in the year of 2018 I finally heard the famous tick sound aka piston slap at the first 10 mins of warm up and Ford said that sound was normal at the time but obviously it was not … gen one motor is over priced junk … your car may sound and perform normal but there is a issue … again I was 2-3 quarts a 1000 miles daily driving … anything over a half of quart in 500 miles daily driving take it in and have them bore scope your cylinders
Good info. How about the oil filter differences? Sometime during the 2017 model year they went to a paper cartridge filter instead of a standard type oil filter. Also for '17 and earlier models with oil coolers, there was a recall for the oil cooler lines. Do you see much oil in the left side catch can? I get oil only in my right side can, but not much probably because of the low miles. One more thing, the gears in the stock oil pump are supposedly prone to cracking/failure. FORD PERFORMANCE has billet gears, but it isn't an easy job.
How can I tell if I have a supercharger on it? I bought it used but I don’t know if it’s gen 1 or 2. It’s a 2017. Idk if the previous owner got the gen 2 installed
So is a 2018 gonna be a gen 1? Or you can’t really tell by the year of the car? Looking at a 2018 gt350 in lead gray such a beautiful car but now I heard of this gen 1 motor problem so idk. Any other issues with the gt350 other than the oil consumption?
When the replace your motor under warranty, does the new motor have the signatures of the builders? I heard somewhere it does not. (BTW - I'm currently working with my dealer on a replacement, 1qt per 300mi)
The reason for oil consumption has everything to do with smog laws. Sending oil back into the crankcase via the pcv causes oil in the motor to get very frothy. Frothy oil sticks to low tension rings. Next time around, you have even frothier oil sticking to already stuck rings. This is what causes the the consumption to get worse over time. The fix is a catch can. Stop letting the oil get fed back into the crank case. Ford knows this, and that's why they sell catch cans that fit perfectly on our cars. The reason they don't come installed, SMOG LAWS! So yes, clean the carbon from your rings, install catch cans, and pay attention to your oil levels. Hopefully you haven't already been tricked into thinking gen.2 is a better thing for your car. Matching numbers are what matters.
Unfortunately not. 2019-2020 has the gen 2 motors. Some 2017's and all 18-20's however have the new oil filter design. They changed it from the metal canister filter to a plastic one that won't vibrate off or be damaged during removal.
As long as you have powertrain warranty you are fine. If you consume more than 1 quart per 500 miles ford will have you run a oil consumption test and and when they see how much your engine consumes you will be eligible for a Gen 2 motor.
@@NanuGarage I agree but a seller should be disclosing that because to me if that engine doesn’t match the original vin it’s a Shelby that shouldn’t even be looked at. And with that being said almost every engine that was replaced was replaced with a gen2. So yes if you have. A15-18 that would matter a little.
You mentioned in previous video that somebody had told you that some 2018 engines built later in the production year were equipped with Gen 2 engines. Did your research find any truth to that?
Yes, after many hours of research I haven't been able to find anything regarding 2018's having a gen 2 voodoo motors. Seems it was a mistake and that 2018 do not have gen 2's and it's only the 19-20's.
@@NanuGarage that’s ok we can just run the shit out of our 18s under warranty until they explode and get the Gen 2 replacement. Numbers won’t match, but I don’t give a damn about that. Take care 🤙🏾
@@keonilew8568 haha same here, I don't care about the numbers mismatching. I got a few years left on warranty so I'm gonna drive the car how I want and if I need a new motor I am gonna get it! You take care too brotha
I thought this guy stole my car then realoized he got black stripes I got dark blue stripes. My car does not consume much oil. about 1 quart per 3000 miles and I dont track it but of course I drive it hard, ya have too.
Rings in the 2015 to 2017 were looser. In 2018 Ford changed the rings to be tighter and burn less oil. In 2019 and 20 got the gen 2 block but people forget that in 2018 they got the tighter rings which burns less oil. Its not a Gen 1 to Gen 2 thing that fixed it. It was 2018.
The Gen 2 block was only used because of the Gt 500. It was saved on production costs why it was done. Made no sense to have two blocks...it wasnt NOT a reliability issue. To many regurgitated "experts" spewing their knowledge they don't have. Ford doesn't even acknowledge a Gen 1 or Gen 2 difference
God damn will this gen 1 gen 2 shit ever stop. Even gen 2 has a failure rate. Stop the bs. The reason and only reason of a gen 2 is because the gt500 predator came along. If the gt500 never came along we wouldn’t see a new block, revised heads etc. many many many more people have gen 1 with zero issues. There are way more gen 1 motors out there than gen 2. And yes even gen 2 motors have blown up and have oil issues.
I agree that many gen 1's are perfectly fine. The gen 2 still does fail, however, according to research I have done it has a significantly lower failure rate in comparison to the gen 1 motors. Just stating what the research says bro... Anyways thanks for tuning into one of my videos. Have a nice day.
