I think the extreme relic jobs should go away… mostly because they look ridiculous and are so easy to spot as imitations to the real thing. Light relic should be the standard if you are into that
Completely agree; when I get to order my Fender Custom Shops (one can hope), I would make it New Old Stock, DLX Closet Classic or at the worst Closet Classic.
Fender had a whole row of relic Strats at NAMM one year, and all of the wear marks were in the same spots. Kind of like the "tie dye" shirts they sell at Walmart. "Is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho"? Frank Zappa
This should be the number one “end it now”. Blues players kill me with this. I have guitars I bought new 25-30 years ago that still look new. Even 10 world tours would not do what some of these blues strats look like. Maybe if a forearm spiked band was worn while playing.
The trend in guitar (and bass) that should go away: RU-vid channels with, "experts," who are such experts that they bless the rest of us by telling us what to like, dislike, feel is cool or needed, or feel is just too uncool, unnecessary, or they just dislike it, no real reason, just don't like it. The RU-vid experts who are so fluffed up they have confused presenting their personal opinions with presenting facts, data, and useful information.
There is a local cover band dude in my area who is very vocal about guitar tone. A few years ago I learned he was basically deaf. Lesson learned about “experts “.
A 335 with active EMG's (battery mounted external), Floyd, and coil splits throwing down on Megadeth is basically being summoned by the memeverse as we speak
In the Henry J era, Gibson would mount the battery under the top, using the F-Holes for access, then sell a proprietary tool for $600 to change it. They would then proceed to sue every small machine shop in the country that produced the same tool for $16.
I personally dislike the sound of humbuckers for clean comping, split coils aren't as good as single coils but they are wayyyyyy better than a humbucker for me
I had a Micheal Kelley patriot and had owned it for literally about six months before a friend of mine realized it had split coils... He wasn't even a musician and thought he broke something when he pulled the tone knob lol.
I have a Carvin that was designed to have split coil h/buckers & the split sounds are very good. The volume drop is small & I use the split sound & switch to full buckers for a boost w/soloing.
Disagree on the coil splitting for sure, it doesn't sound like a strat sure but its a great option to have live to get more of that character for like a verse and then flick it over to a bucker for heavy choruses etc. Basically I think of it as a different character, not a true SC. If I didn't have that I'd need to add more to my pedalboard dance to differentiate the sections, which I don't wanna do.
Especially for rythem one guitar less to wag around. Besides must recorded bands cant duplicated the recorded sound they made any way Its grate for coverbands rythem player
Yes I look at it the same way. I have an Epiphone 335 with coil splitting and it doesn't sound like a Strat or Tele but it's a nice clear tone with its own unique character.
Coil splitting isn't necessarily to make it sound like a single coil. It's meant to drop the output, phase switching and getting different tones from the same pickup.
The Floyd has been in production for 40+ years. It’s hardly a fad. I had a guitar custom made last year. Had a Floyd fitted because after hundreds of gigs. I trust them.
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It’s all horses for courses. Floyd Rose’s are really only useful if you’re dive bombing like there’s no tomorrow, but they do it better than any other alternative. Piezo’s, Synth, and Split coils are useful if you’re playing live and you want different sounds. Personally I don’t need a looper, as I predominantly play guitar to record songs and like to play over more elaborate chord changes. Recently I bought a Boss VO-1, and have had tons of fun adding it to my songs to get Frampton/ELO/Nazareth sounds. Sometimes I just want to make a Basic Strat Blues tone song, sometimes I want to come up with something weird or out there and there is tech out there to make it happen. The guitar is a tool and you should use what works to get the job done.
I'm not a huge Floyd person, but I think they do provide a really good level of tuning stability (and yes it totally comes at a cost). I also think it's a great tremolo for subtle use - like with chords. You can do that on any trem, but Floyd's feel great for that IMO.
@@BenBreard I agree. Floyd Rose equiped guitars are very musical and have awesome tuning stability. They are not only for dive bombing like there is no tomorrow.
Yeah.They keep bringing back the Bigsby and such like dumb lookin barely functioning things and it's ridiculous.The zero edge trem on my Ibanez works pretty good though!
I’d add “Road worn” or “relic’d”. it’s like buying pre-cut jeans. If it happens naturally it’s cool but otherwise it’s like you’re trying to appear like your guitar has been seasoned by your many many gigs.
As long as you're not committing fraud by trying to pass it off as a genuine antique, there's no ethics issue, and it's just personal taste. One place where relicimg is legit is when you put new parts on an old guitar. That always looks weird. A bit of tarnish or scuff marks on a bridge or pickguard helps it blend in with what's already there. Then it's fun to try and get the new stuff to match.
I love my fender usa strat, ant going to change any thing about it. What's kina funny about the sales of a usa strat .is if you change any thing about it the value drops. But any geate picker never played a strat Just about changed every thing about the guitar.
I went through hundreds of guitars in my life, chasing after "the sound", and then I discovered something you can't buy in any store....... Good right hand technique It beats all the pickup swapping, tuners, bridges, strings, neck and body wood, pots, etc. Just simply applying the right amount of mechanical energy to the strings in the right spot along the length of those strings makes all the difference in the world! It brings out the magical qualities of Tweed amps, (it's why they usually sound better in more experienced hands), and it covers most of the EQ and drive problems that people blame on the gear. The marketing dept. of the guitar and accessory companies would rather not have you figure that out, for obvious rea$ons. Many moons ago, Mike Bloomfield stated that he could turn his Marshall stack and Les Paul to 10, and play at whisper quiet volume levels. I was intrigued by this idea, and I tried it. it's very difficult at first, but the payoff is phenomenal in terms of tone and dynamics. How many people out there have dialed in a great sound, handed the guitar to somebody else, and it sounds like a wildebeest caught in a barbed wire fence when the other person played it? That was my first clue. My ears said "lighten up on the right hand". Of course you have to watch what you say because artists are sensitive, and you don't want to be judgemental, but the laws of physics do prevail. They show no favoritism to anybody.
I find it hilarious how people will pay $1000 more for a “relic” yet will scoff at a genuine relic. Usually I find the genuine relics are relics for a reason, they are great guitars that were played a lot.
Patiently waiting for Fishman Fluence to go away, the need for a switch that adds 2% of bass and compression under the guise of ‘a different pickup sound’ feels rather like a problem they’ve manufactured.
@@ThundermanSze I mean if you plug in a different guitar with different pickups and don’t bother to change your amp settings then complain when it sounds too bright/too dark/too sharp/too muddy then you’re the problem, also all of those Bareknuckle pickups you referenced are typically designed for guitars that are tuned much lower such as 7 or 8 strings, so naturally they’re going to sound bright compared to a pickup geared towards players who play 6 string guitars in standard tuning.
@@ThundermanSze just to clarify I don’t own either, but have played guitars equipped with both and it’s a case of horses for courses, if you don’t like the sound then it’s probably just not right for what you want, but that doesn’t mean they’re trash 🤷🏻♂️
Someone owed me money several years ago, and couldn’t pay up, so they offered me a ‘78 SG. I agreed. He only owed me a few hundred dollars. He brings it by, and someone had put a Floyd Rose on it. Long story , shorter, he still owes me that money, 30 years later.
So why don’t you sell it for a few hundred dollars then? I bet you can find someone who would be really interested in an SG with a Floyd Rose for a couple of hundred. If it’s a Gibson that is.
@@mariodriessen9740 Well, that was 30 years ago. Long before Reverb, and I always hated selling shit before the internet made it easy. I WAS gonna take it, light it on fire, and wipe out the debt, but he didn’t like that idea. No biggie. He’s a local bartender now. His bosses have paid me back 10 times over by now.
Err, isn't an SG is too thin to put a Floyd Rose on, since it requires extensive back routing? Are you sure it wasn't a Kahler or another self contained system?
@@RastaSaiyaman Guitar player from Tesla has an SG with a Floyd Rose on it and it's an actual Floyd Rose and not the top mounted one. First and only SG I've seen with One.
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i am absolutely begging for this. enough coddling sound guys. big amps were fine for 50 years & suddenly lunchbox amps come out and I get shit for even a 2x12 combo.
Buying guitars online without having any idea how they sound or play just because some youtuber made a video about them. That's a guitar trend that should go away. Try before you buy.
I completely agree. I will add big manufacturers (esp. Fender and Gibson) selling direct to the customer. This has had a devastating impact on small music stores and it’s just not fair to them. For Gibson it has probably been a major source of all the hate they get for their quality control.
I think digital amps are fine and especially useful for beginners. But yeah my first guitar had a Floyd rose and I honestly have no idea how I didn't give up playing guitar there and then.
Honestly curious, why the floyd hate? 1 of my 3 guitars has a Floyd, and I love it. Always in tune, and string changes are not nearly as hard as detractors say. If set up properly, no problems. But to each their own.
@@briank6789 I have many guitars and many of them with Floyd Rose bridges. If people knew how to use them--they are great. If they don't like the floating aspect, they can just block them for dive only and still have the benefits of the microtuners at the bridge--similar to the microtuner bridges made by Gibson for their tuning issues. LOVE Floyd Rose bridges!
Coil Splitting isn't meant to make it sound like a single coil. It is there for dropping output (like a coil tap on a single coil), for phase switching, and getting different tones without swapping guitars
The comedy and improv is getting exponentially better! This has become both my favorite guitar vlog AND stand up (sitting down, rather) vlog! Keep at it! ⚡️
Sometimes splitting the coils lets you play a cleaner sound out of an amp without having to lower the guitar volume. I never thought of it as trying to get a Strat sound.
I have an Ephiphone SG Pro that never gets used on humbucker mode.They need to be split right, and putting out around 13k full on, and the result is very Tele bridge.
BAxter, for once I fully agree with everything you said… Hell, I even owned a “The Greg” amp… and after a year or so I got rid of it. Last time I ever buy something based on a Greg Koch demo (not that he’s a bad demo man, but, really… he can make a tomato soup can on a string sound fabulous). I eventually sold it (at a big loss) without ever playing through it. Back in ‘14 I bought a Gibson Les Paul Traditional plus which had those gawd awful push-push pots to do too many unneeded stuff. When the pots failed (as they ALL did), I had them replaced with 4 CTS pots and a pair of orange drop caps. Now, it’s a proper Les Paul (and don’t tell me that Les modded his guitars, but, then he was Les Paul, and I’m not…). I once bought into the hype and put some money down on a Mesa Boogie 25 watt Mark 5 head and cab. A couple of days later, some idiot sales droid at a large chain (no names here, but their initials are GC) sold it to someone else. Oops… I used the deposit money (and a manager-approved discount) to purchase a very nice post-HenryJ Les Paul 60’s Standard (with a top to die for…). Anyways, I’ve discovered that too much choice is worst than not enough choice. Too much choice gets in the way of the music.
I think piezo sounds okay with the right setup and I quite like the tone of an electric/piezo blend. If I’m playing full acoustic stuff then obviously I’d switch. Also, I think fanned frets will be niche but they won’t ever die because it’s extremely useful for extended range guitars, it does feel good to have a very slight fan on a 6 string though.
5:28 Great pick! I had a MIDI Fender Strat with a Roland GR-33 synth. The worst part was that, to sell the GR-33, I had to the sell the Strat as well (it was a great guitar). Even finding a buyer for the combo was super-tough
EMG does make a LOT of different guitar pickups, really good pickups, passive and active. They also make a lot of great bass pickups. Their best asset is their top notch customer service and technical support.
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Also zero noise. Played several venues where my passive pickups, even humbuckers, pick up noise. Change batteries like once a year and I have never had a single person complain my bass didn't sound right. Had more people say it sounded great.
Lol some mentions "Highlander" I immediately start singing "here we are,born to be kings.We're the prince's of the universe,yaaa!!!"Queen:Princes of the universe,BABY!!!🤘😜👍
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I assume they won't because it's (probably) cheaper than applying a finish. I also prefer it over a satin finish. Whether you like the look or not is a different story.
I remember when effects processors were marketed more aggressively, between digitech, zoom, Yamaha, and Boss, they always had a new model with more foot switches. They always sounded the same to me though and I always went back to stomp boxes. Maybe it’s time to give one a try again I’ve got a far strat with a coil split. The split humbucker sounds ok but has lower output than other settings so it only works if you’re setup for that pickup setting alone, so I don’t use it much. The humbucker sounds way better and I can switch to the middle to get single coil sound
I agree with all of these. I don't like active pickups and don't use them but EMGs are out and Fishman is in. And they look like passive pickups so they're a little more common than you think.
re-split coils ... mostly agree. However, one of my more recent purchases included the Fishman Fluence PU with "3 voicings" that are comparable to single coil, PAF, and higher gain HB. I find all 3 sounds quite usable.
Might be nice if you work at a DAW all the time. I’ve chewed the headstock on my tele knocking mugs, and sundry off my desk. Of course letting smokes burn down and scorch it doesn’t do the headstock any favors either…..
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Nice one gents - agree with almost everything you said. Just discovered channel and subbed. Just waiting to hear you slag off Line 6 super complex amps and crazy multi-effects pedals. Separate pedals, simple guitar sounds, old school rocks. Plus, chemistry between you two guys is awesome to watch.
Super unpopular opinion: Bigsby's. I've now made the mistake of buying a guitar with them twice. They're big and awkward, and add weight to the guitar. They're a bit of a pain to restring. And for all the hassle I almost never use them.
As someone who owns a jp15 i feel personally attacked by this video. Active pickups, stereo output, piezo pickups, and coil tap (although it only works in the middle position). And it still is my favorite guitar in my collection. Thank god it doesn't have a floyd though.
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Baxter I also have a stereo ES345 I got a stereo cord and changed the stereo straight end to a mono. Works great. Also have a y cord if I want to play through two amps. Great discussion
I'm presently in a band where one of the guitar players utilizes at least 3 of those no knows that you guys talked about the the piezo pickup ( Which actually dates back to the late 70s when Yamaha began building electric grand pianos), the guitar synthesizer and the highly complex rig. With one axe to grind, he's got 3 different channels come channels coming from the synthesizer, the acoustic pick up and his Helix. I have occasionally fantasized getting a stereo guitar and having one of the 2 outputs swapped out for the Piezo pickup myself. At least, you didn't single out the pickup selection method pioneered by Brian May. On the other hand, that is one feature that doesn't seem to have become a trend yet, even though Brian has regained in notoriety during this 3rd wave of Queen's popularity
I have a Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder with active EMG pickups and a Floyd Rose. Holds tune brilliantly and it's excellent for 80's hair metal. No regrets and I have no problem recommending them to others.
To quote Struck, “Concise writing is vigorous.” Apply to effects. If you can’t get your best tone and sound without effects, it won’t sound better with effects, no matter many you use
No one is setting up a bunch of effects to find their best tone. They are doing it to have a wide variety of tones available. Sometimes that phaser swirl is fun and inspiring. Sometimes a heavy fuzz is called for. It's a palette of colors to choose from.
@@rstuartcpa According to That Pedal Show, an Electric Mistress flanger is the Police effect. (And to be fair on your first point, I should say I'm a thoroughly mediocre player myself. But I do enjoy the fun of having all of the sounds to choose from.)
JBE Two Tone Humbucker offers a Single Coil Sound Worthy of consideration. I did a HH Tele Troublemaker and can tell you it Does NOT Split Coils, it has one stacked upon another and has a rich tone you could appreciate
Coil splitting is totally dependent on the guitar and electronics. My Taylor T3 and Steinberger coil splits are basically useless. My Ibanez guitars are much more useful and the coil splits sound great, which adds to the versatility. Acoustic bevels can add a lot of comfort to large and/or deep acoustics. I don’t need them on smaller acoustics, but I wouldn’t complain about having one. Over the years, I’ve noticed high options about acoustic guitars despite most guitarists not spending much time on them. Spend a LOT of time on acoustics and there’s much more benefit.
Ironically, I grew up with Floyds in the 80’s, shunned them for vintage bridges and hard tails for 30 years, and now am BACK to Floyds for tuning stability, expressiveness, and… FUN.
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Not really. Just playing faster, picking differently, or sometimes using more gain and compression.By that measure, there's a ton of music that falls squarely in between. I'm thinking that the distinction you're choosing to get so hung up on represents a dated sub genre that is rightfully dead for good,- i.e., - guitarists only certain guitarists listen to.
I have the EOB Stratocaster, though I guess it's now a EOB Partscaster. I didn't like the V profile neck so I replaced it with a C profile neck, then I replaced the Texas Special middle pickup with a SD Duckbucker and then I replaced the saddles with Graph Tech saddles. I regret nothing and I love it!
I have a Gibson ES-347. I’m not really sure if it’s a coil tap, or a coil split on that thing. I only know that I love the sound and I use it a lot. Does it sound like a strat? No! Do I want it to sound like a strat? No! I just want it to sound good and that’s exactly what it does. 😊
PRS does it differently....technically...it's both coils in parallel with one coil with a registered to ground to lower its output...the result is both coils on but with a dominant coil voiced and 70% of the output instead of half
For the stereo issue you could use a standard guitar chord and replace one end with a stereo plug. If you soldered the center wire to the two center terminals (not the ground one) you should now have a mono output. Hope this helps.
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Absolutely love mine. Want crazy About the look at first but it's grown on me. The feel is amazing because it doesn't have 7 lbs of clear on it. I get why people like unfinished necks now.
I laugh the guys that won’t buy a guitar because they don’t like the shape of the headstock too lol I’m the opposite…how the neck feels and how it sounds is what matters to me.
I love how Baxter slips in a move or TV recommendation or review in every video, and I agree with Johnathon if you want to sound like you are playing a start just pick one up. Kudos men!!!!
I actually love the split coils on my semi-hollow. I feel I can conjure up some pretty good tones. Does it make it sound exactly like a Strat? No, but I like the sounds I can produce.
Finally! Someone other than a Koch employee or signature artist mentioned Koch amps.....lmao I have the Jupiter 45 hybrid. Trying to find an unbias review is about impossible. It's been a good amp and you don't lose much at low volume with the design. Alrighty, I'm done rambling....lol
I’ve used the Koch Pedaltone for many years together with 2 AC30’s and a JCM2000 head plus 4x12” cab. Perfect sound and at least 50% of it was the Koch. The only reason why I don’t use it anymore is that everything got stolen. 😖
@@mariodriessen9740 The Jupiter has been fabulous. I can see keeping it for many years. But, I'm totally guilty of going on a trade and swap spree.....lol Great amp, none the less.
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Split coils are a thing and I hope they don't go away. Sure, they don't sound like a strat, but it is definitely a different useful sound available to you. Again, with my looping... very useful play a backing loop with split coils, then go full humbucking to play over top of it.
Fender sucks with this because if you want a nitro finish but you don’t want to pay $2500, you only option is road worn. Their vintera series; road worn versions are nitro, unrelic’ed versions are poly.
Did I really watch 18 minutes and not once did they acknowledge the elephant in the fad guitar world? Relic guitars. Listen, I know you guys are fans but it's not here to stay. (Please don't let it be here to stay) 🤣
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A lot of good points. I still have the Roland GR-30 and the GK pickups on a few guitars but none have been modified ever. I say velcro on pedals and boards will be the next thing to go.
Funny your comments with respect to Floyds. I've got a large collection of guitars with std Fender trems, Gotoh 510s etc. I just decided last month that I needed a Floyd-equipped one in the fleet and bought a Schecter Sun Vallet SS. I then quickly bought an Ibanez with a Floyd(ish) shortly thereafter - I can't put them down. Awesome. So horses for courses!
Ah yes, relics. Those guitars made specifically to make you look like a player who's been there and done that without having to do anything at all. The guitarist equivalent of stolen valor.
Man, you had me at active pick-up's and straight on into Floyd Rose, and so on... I don't go around looking for thing's I want to hear, but...SUBBED, guys! Advice and confirmtion bias from two guys w/ equally excellent taste (some of us just "get it"). Although, I have to say the L.R Baggs Piezo I had installed in my last acoustic was fantastic...but it was $350 CAD before our mountain of sales tax, then installation...Either way, I felt I got what I paid for - The sound of an Acoustic guitar! :)
@@BasementGuitarSuperstar mine sounds gr8 or I wouldn’t get called back for sessions and gigs. I just can’t afford a wall of axes. I’d rather have a guitar that does many things well than 1 thing perfect. My experience is most can’t tell the tiny difference. Also by only having one I know it’s quirks inside and out. And I’m pretty severely disabled so getting multiples to my likings is a PIA anyway.😎
@@thomaslthomas1506 awesome. Yeah, guitars with coil splits are super handy and the technology now is soo good that it makes sense to have at least one guitar with coil splits. My favorite guitar i own is a Chapman ML3 Modern. It has coil splits and imho sounds fantastic on both settings
Oh the irony. My new setup (Aug 2021) is a midi-equipped Schecter with vintage output EMG's, a sustainer and a Floyd Rose. I can do everything except drop tune and for that I have a Line6 Variax JTV-89F or a Parker Fly w/ midi (shown in my avatar) that also has the acoustic-like piezo pickups in the bridge. I play through a Rocktron talk box for certain songs (and audience reaction is ALWAYS off the charts). This range of sounds is needed for my cover band. Granted, this is more complexity than most players need and still suits my ADD musical tastes. What I cannot deal with is pedals; which are for all intents, one sound per box in a live setting. The Kemper stage suits my needs. yet, sometimes, I like to rock out with a Les Paul through a 50-watt head.
Hey, not sure if you know but the reason you may not have seen emgs in the past year is that the EMG shop burnt in the California fires over a year ago. They released a statement about slowed production, so not so much they are gone, just less production on them, which also means no guitar manufacturers getting them to put in their guitars
Great list...Haha Although I am not fond of the separate GK3 pick up, I still love and use the Roland GR 55! One of the best guitar synths to hit the market.Even after all these years, still great for the studio and live jam sessions! Cheers
I love my Ibanez collection, but tired of active "batteries in guitars." I just can't get a true, passive P bass tone on an Ibanez. I finally got a real Fender P bass. The further the preamp is from the guitar, the better the tone?
I hate modern effect pedals with knobs that have like 1600 different functions. Or switches that you have to hold longer, or shorter, or even double click…, I HATE THEM!!! My brain is not made for that stuff. I want pedals that you buy because it has one good sound and that’s all it does. Aw, my brain hurts…
I thought I was the only one. I have few pedals that I haven't used to their full potential. If the pedal has multifunction knobs and switches, I'm lost...
Right there with you guys…and it’s not that I’m bad with tech or anything. It’s just that some pedals have to much almost as far as options and settings. Nice and simple is what I look for. I see new pedals all the time and some look so awesome. But realistically, I’ll probably use less then 10% of what those pedals can do even. And for beginners, it must seem pretty daunting trying to figure all those pedals and the settings you can use on them.
I have a FSR Tele with dual DiMarzio’s, the coil tap for the bridge sounds incredible. I usually split when using the bridge and hum with the neck. It’s a very specific guitar and pickup config though, so I agree in principle that coil taps are a gimmick most of the time.
I put a Floyd Rose style bridge on my last build. Its got flip flop paint, Floyd Rose style bridge, string locks and locking tuners . It has a PRS like headstock , birds eye maple fret board, mahogany neck and 2 piece mahogany body. its kind of an inspired by Strat/PRS type body
A trend that should go away? There are 3 things that really should be abandoned on but one guitar. Strat bodys, Strat bodys and last but not least ..Strat bodys.
@@mariodriessen9740 I think I solved it. We will glue all the faux Strats together in a long chain then lean that chain against Mars. We will give it to NASA who will send a Stratonaut up the ladder :-)
I don't think he started using them till the 80s or 80s. I could be very wrong though. I do know his signature LP had coil split options and and phase switching. But i think most his classic recordings were played on a 59 that was mostly stock other than a slimmer neck
I've following your witty and funny videos for a while now, and that pink Strat behind you grabs my attention, is it a Hendrix Strat? Keep up the good work boys 🤘🤘
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A few points, floyd rose tremolo and other floating systems are awesome so long as you learn how to get them right, more of a pro level tool than a beginner feature, coil split is great so long as you are aiming to get a different tone, not so great if you want to exactly emulate a strat. Piezo pickups are awesome for once again tone shifting, does it turn your jp7 into a Martin? No, does it add sparkle to your top end? Yes. Active pickups? Maybe you want that extra heat in your signal chain.
Relic’d guitars can go away. Seriously, paying someone to abuse your new guitar is beyond me . You wouldn’t pay someone beat your new car up. But I’ll keep my active pickups! Great episode.
