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@TheFirearmGuy 5 лет назад

Great commentary. There is something special about a gun that nobody else has

@shawnoandrew 5 лет назад

Every gun is a one if a kind to me even if it boils down to simply the serial number, lol.

@andrewbmaster1852 5 лет назад

Sometimes something is rare because it sucked.

@mrPauljacob 5 лет назад

That dude has a really good point .. Im gonna go check out his channel

@MSSmith1022 5 лет назад

I have a 22 that I would love to be able to do target shooting with, problem is that during a move the bolt, mag, and hood for the front sight came up missing. All the shops I have taken it to tell me to forget trying to fix it and just get rid of a very large paper weight. If any one has any idea where I can get at least a bolt and mag for a Winchester Model 69 I would love to find them.

@rob69270 5 лет назад

Every asshole that is trying to sell a rusted out Mosin Nagant for 700 dollars at a gun show needs to watch this.

@Dirtboxhor 5 лет назад

This guy is an ex submariner? Props to him. I was a TM/SS on SSN 762.

@PistolManiac100 5 лет назад

That little rust spot will just get bigger and bigger. Its like cancer, it has to be removed. But if its not that bad use a penny and some 3 in one.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

All I know is that I started collecting cool old guns in late 2017 and 2017 was too late to start collecting...

@iannesby 5 лет назад

You have to start somewhere, and everything will only get more expensive

@brettmcclain9289 5 лет назад

I think today is a good day to start collecting because a lot of the old people that owned the guns are dying off in mass. Their children are selling the guns off for fractions of the actual value in order to obtain drug money. I am able to frequently buy guns for 75% to 50% of the actual price at gun shows.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

@@brettmcclain9289 That is called luck. Most of the gun shows I go to sell for high prices and the condition of milsurps seem to be going down. I got lucky once when a batch of guns were sold to my local pawn shop as part of an estate sale, but that was a rare occasion. It is so easy for people to know what they have when you can take 10 minutes to Google it and set a price accordingly.

@patroit5192 5 лет назад

look at morphy auction house I was blown away at the starting auction prices.

@gadsdenjim8785 5 лет назад

redbeard 2006 it's not the "starting" prices that matter. It's what it SOLD for is the number you want to know and the only number that matters in any market.

@yvestorquest5760 5 лет назад

Mark is friggin amazing!!! He should write a book called "Zen and the Art Of Gun smithing". I could listen to his teachings and philosophy for years.

@dwightehowell8179 5 лет назад

If you don't occasionally clean and oil a gun it will rust/rot. End of story.

@gordonlawrence4749 5 лет назад

Unless it is caked in a type of gun grease like cosmoloine, they can last decades without detectable decomposition.

@ProthoPectore 5 лет назад

"we are the temporary custodians of a world our children inherit." -unknown

@wierdalien1 5 лет назад

@wood1155 and that is why we are/will kill the planet

@cutlerylover 5 лет назад

Every hobby has its "collectors" and its "users" and in every hobby you have people with the same passions telling each other how they should enjoy their man toys, lol, nope, never ends well, do whatever makes you happy, if that means destroying a piece of history because you enjoy it, or hanging onto a pristine hi-point do whatever floats your boat its your money...

@joemoment-o1275 5 лет назад

I get under "Those guys" skin easily. I have a pretty good knowledge of fire arms in general, I appreciate MOST guns. I haven't found one I'm "full auto" for...

@cutlerylover 5 лет назад

@UCIeSYCuoYhQNJD9TQ_l0Q6g It really just comes down to caring about what other people think, but in the world of hobbies half the fun is showing off your collection and sharing it with others so people put WAY too much thought into what will make them cool to other people in their hobby, lol...We all care what others think some more than others...

@themandan4000 5 лет назад

hey, i know you

@airbomb34 5 лет назад

Reality is you're gonna die and you don't get to take any of it with you so you may as well enjoy it while you can.

@jimmybare3026 5 лет назад

As long as you don't mix destroy in with enjoy. If it truly is collectible and valuable and you're unable to use it for its intended purpose without beating the hell out of it. I see there's a fad going on where they're taking mint condition old fender stratocasters and putting power Sanders on them to make them look like they've been played in 10000 gigs and then doubling or tripling the asking price. Maybe you ought to consider collecting old Fender stratocasters instead

@iannesby 5 лет назад

I collect guns but they aren't artifacts to me, the value is my enjoyment from their use. A gun I wont shoot or cant reload is not a gun for me.

@forbidenlotus3502 5 лет назад

I feel the same way.

@GreatMercenary 5 лет назад

If all guns were in modern production or at least parts would be available for everything, then I would see no problem with shooting a gun till it breaks. But that's not the case, so I don't feel the need to shoot my "rare" guns that much. It's better to not use something (especially when it'll never be made again) then to use it up so future generations can't appreciate what we have now.

@airbomb34 5 лет назад

Same. I'd have to shoot it if I own it. I'm not a museum.

@bitfreakazoid 5 лет назад

@rwsthedemonking What a completely stupid thing to say. People who buy guns that they "can't or won't shoot" are still gun people. Shooting isn't the only way to get enjoyment and value from a firearm. Not to mention that, 1; some firearms simply can't be fired anymore due to their condition, 2; some can't be fired because either the ammo is no longer made or extremely difficult/expensive to get and they don't reload, 3; you can't shoot every single gun you own, etc.

@montanamountainmen6104 5 лет назад

I knew a guy years ago , he bought a 1886 Winchester in near mint condition. He never shot it wanted it as a investment, he retired and went to sell the rifle. First thing a buyer asked, " Does it shoot", he said, " I don't know, had it 10 years never shot it" . Buyer said, " No way am I shelling out $5,000 for a gun that may not work". My friend looked gut shot.

@jeremy7818 5 лет назад

There is truly not enough smoking a cigar on camera anymore now that everything is offensive

@eamonnegan2591 5 лет назад

He should have an "Oliver Reed" mug as well (contains half vodka & half orange juice).

@npc-ej5yz 5 лет назад

completely agree sir. Demonize/criminalize guns and Gun Owners like they did with cigars and smoking...scray future I'm seeing

@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 5 лет назад

I'm offended by everything being offensive!

@stephenadsit3244 5 лет назад

So true, but I think his "died" on him....lol

@wierdalien1 5 лет назад

@@npc-ej5yz sure but you can chose not to shoot someone or yourself and still use a gun. If you choose to smoke around other people you are actively killing them. It might be slow but you are.

@merroldsams3197 6 месяцев назад

I am happy you are telling folks to keep their gun collations in good working condition. I have been telling young folks now days these guns need to be used, loved and cared for it is the only way they will keep their present value. Yes, I am now an old man (81) who hates the words, "collectors value." Which is only what the used gun can be sold for. Keep up the good work.

@balancedfordaylight1 5 лет назад

One of the biggest problems I find is finding competent gunsmiths and in particular gunsmiths that know how to work on milsurps or even that are knowlegeable about doing the maintanace, one thing I would like would be a database of resource for checking gunsmiths in my local area that work with milsurps and old school guns without having to resort to shipping guns

@Chiefshadow4 5 лет назад

I had a gunsmith totally fuck up a t53 receiever. Needed a scope mount mounted and he didnt clamp the mount flush to the receiver.

@pickeljarsforhillary102 5 лет назад

Or you find a guy and all he knows is ARs. It's like finding a mechanic that can only work on a Volkswagen Beetle. WTF.

@Privat3Kag3 5 лет назад

That's because most *Gunsmiths* havent been to school for it. They haven't been to a place to build their foundations to start properly. The same way alot of mechanics start working on their own, knowing Very little about everything outside of their own periphery of experience. The only gunsmiths you should ever trust, should have a reputation, or a certification. I've fixed plenty of hack job attempts.

@lonsmithwesson1661 5 лет назад

@@pickeljarsforhillary102 A better analogy is an "AR gunsmith" is someone who clames to be an auto mechanic but has only worked on lawn mowers.

@B65-s7b 5 лет назад

He looks like William Shatner a bit.

@grant133 5 лет назад

Mark is one of my personal heroes. Love the guy, really really respect his work. Anvil is the number 1 thing on my agenda when I see that a new episode has uploaded. I actually want to become a professional gunsmith. That's the main thing I wanna do with my life and I wanna thank Mark for helping to inspire me. You rock Mark! Keep working your magic.

@ArnoSchmidt70 5 лет назад

Mark is a really sharp guy!

@paulvenn4447 5 лет назад

Sharp ol Navy wit in droves

@chemech 5 лет назад

They don't pick the guys for nuclear submarine crews up off of street corners... the most mission critical aspect of a functioning boat is the crew. And no one wants to be doing something hairy in a submerged chunk of sewer pipe with someone he can't trust...

@brianlence459 5 лет назад

@@paulvenn4447 i bet he can fix almost anything, not just guns

@paulvenn4447 5 лет назад

@@brianlence459 Mark Novak the marriage counselor haha

@gb123-ej8wh 7 месяцев назад

Mark it’s funny you hit this topic because in England rebluing is regular maintenance and hurts nothing, and even helps value. Here for some reason people think that if you take a cheap milsurp that was incorrect and make a practical shooter out of it that you committed some form of sacrilege. I too have notice wood and glossy blue isn’t being made anymore. I hate it because shiny blue and highly polished Walnut is my favorite aesthetic but manufacturers don’t want to make that anymore.

@ponthis1 5 лет назад

Thank you Eric. .. and Damn Mark I like you! If I ever get the chance to sit down and have an adult beverage with you... I'm buying! You have real ethics!

@ColeDedhand 5 лет назад

I only regret that I have but one like to give for this video.

@Mrgunsngear 5 лет назад

great discussion!

@RebelSapper 5 лет назад

Oh boy... I have to disassemble them as soon as I get home. My last one was a 98K Yugo Capture Rifle. It hadn't been out of the stock so long the front band was totally galded to the wood. Well, I broke the front of the forced numbers matching stock off! I bought a laminated replacement and went shooting, what are you gonna do.

@elijahaitaok8624 5 лет назад

Ask you to invite someone to the range with it. Not I, I live in the frozen wastelands of Hoth and it costs an arm, a leg, and two kidneys to travel south

@tynado1173 5 лет назад

If this video doesn't make you want to clean your old guns I don't know what will

@45obiwan 5 лет назад

My '65 mustang stopped working in '63.

@filipkarlsson89 5 лет назад

Tom Nunya thats a ford problem

@GreatMercenary 5 лет назад

@Dodge Mustang I think it was just a joke. Everything has problems, the 66 Mustang I just got has a few problems but at least it runs. I do enjoy to drive it around, hopefully I still can when it becomes a 100 year old car.

@filipkarlsson89 5 лет назад

its a joke cause i am a holden(GM) fan and the rival is ford and for the last 40 years we have had a rivalry between the brands that runs deep.

@jasonhowell8 5 лет назад

Not possible. Now, if you said your '81 DeLorean stopped working in '63, I'd believe you. That flux capacitor can be a bitch, at times.

@ryanbehrmann3453 5 лет назад

I just inherited my grandfather’s rifles I had someone tell me I ruined the collectors value by getting his Mauser redone I told the guy I don’t plan on getting rid of it I plan on keeping it the family so collectors value I don’t care about. I’m also getting his 1960’s marlin 336 carbine in 35 Remington redone. I completely agree with everything you said in this video great job

@thomasdurkin8719 5 лет назад

Have you had a chance to use the Mauser? My 100 year old Swedish Mauser is a blast to use.

@ryanbehrmann3453 5 лет назад

Thomas Durkin not yet I’m still waiting on both guns to come back before I had them redone I wanted them checked to make sure they were safe to shoot

@joshuamacdonald4913 5 лет назад

I generally look for "repairable" or "serviceable" in a lot of my antiques for some of these reasons. I have seen a few enfields that have been put theough the ringer as hunting rifles and need a lot of love so that would be my target for a complete refinish rile. I have had a ww2 canadian trainer that was sporterized and the barrel painted that became a restore project.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

Collecting in 2019: Better buy that ratty Mosin Nagant for $399.99 before the value doubles in the next 5 years!

@kl3847 5 лет назад

I got a Mosin M39 in near mint condition for $450.00. That's the only Mosin I would pay that price for.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

@@kl3847 Yeah, I found a near mint M44 last year for $350 and am very happy with it. Is the M39 a Finnish gun with higher quality standards? They just look like M44s without a bayonet. I need to look into this...

@kl3847 5 лет назад

Yeah they're the gold standard of Mosins. I personally, think Mosins are only worth the collector's value, as any given Mauser will out preform even the M39.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

@Farley Moab There is the guy who shows up with "I remember you could buy a crate of 'em fer a quarter each!" I never knew those days and they are long gone anyway.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

@@kl3847 K98s, K31s, Swedish Mausers... All collectors guns now and all above $500 if they are in any kind of decent condition. I guess I could throw the SKS in there too because they are so close that in 1-2 years it will be very lucky to find them under the $500 mark.

@hamm6035 5 лет назад

I am what I describe as a shooter collector. There isn't a one that I wouldn't refinish if needed. If it is not in working order I repair it. I found a .22 that had been left in the barn. If it was in excellent condition a $500+ gun. Well nowhere near excellent mine got stripped, sanded, cold blue where needed, stained and sealed against the weather. A Romanian trainer stock was so chewed up it got sanded and a rattle can camo job. I shoot it all the time. I appreciate someone that has taken a 97 pump and completely refurbished it to like new or a 1 owner. Let the purest cry and stomp their feet. Love Anvil lots of great information there and Eric as always till the next post.

@rodgersmith1573 5 лет назад

I'm pretty much the same way. I have no interest in a 'wall hanger', non-firing replica, or anything of the sort. Old firearms have a VERY special place in my heart for some reason, but if it has been permanently disabled, is simply too brittle to even consider firing anymore, etc., I will pass. For example, I still use everything from the Tula 1940 SVT-40 to the C96 red 9 from '14-'16. Even the 1903 Siamese Mauser; Food for that horse is about as rare as hen's teeth, yet I've made sure it's at least still functional because I took my time and went through, making sure everything was good to go, inside and out. Another example being the CJ Hamilton & Sons model 39 .22 short, pump action, from my grandfather's gun cabinet. A firearm made by the Daisy air rifle company before it was the Daisy air rifle company, though they were fairly well known to be disassembled and discarded when the users could not re-assemble, I'm always on the lookout for a donor rifle to piece something together with simply because it's old and cool.

@hillsidehillside3095 5 лет назад

!!!! Gun Collecting !! OLD School 401K !!!!!

@kevinstafford4475 5 лет назад

Great video. This is something that has always bothered me about gun "collecting" in general. Seen so many firearms that are completely unshootable because the current thinking is that any type of upkeep or repairs "ruins the value" yet folks still expect top dollar for that firearm.

@thomasdurkin8719 5 лет назад

First thing I did when I picked up my Swedish Mauser that was made in 1918 was to pull it apart and clean it up. After that I felt confident to pick up some 6.5x55 ammo and fire it. It is a beautiful firearm and it still works well over 100 years later. It would be a shame to let it sit and collect dust. I may take it out to hunt a pig this year.

@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 5 лет назад

Let me know how the Democrat hunt goes!

@yyeezyy630 5 лет назад

I have a 1917 lee enfield mk 3 short that still works and a type 99 arisaka from ww2 that also still works old war rifles are built to take harsh conditions

@Strawberry92fs 4 года назад

I'm a simple Man. I see a video with Mark Novak in it, I click.

@Scott-K7sce 5 лет назад

great advice guys. i agree with ya' I do maintain my weapons regularly

@brianemery8945 5 лет назад

Mark is awesome. This guy knows his shyt!

@Choppincharlie 5 лет назад

As someone that’s been into guns since I was a kid and over a decade in the military and I’m now currently going to gunsmithing school I think this is a great point of view and something I’ll definitely take into account as a smith and collector.

@lucasvbishop 5 лет назад

Lol, got myself a Winchester model 1897 manufactured in 1909, excellent original condition. I take it out shooting all the time. Guns are made to be fired.

@thrice1888 5 лет назад

I agree with all of this! I never understood this “That rifle is rare and historic, so I’m going to let it rot into a pile of rust and splinters!”

@hammyh1165 5 лет назад

Mark speaks the truth. I believe collecting should be preservation / prevention of decay. A gun should be kept in usable shootable condition. All my collection of guns are shooters and if they need fixed it's done. It won't harm the value of mine as they're meant for using.

@dangerousfreedom2105 5 лет назад

I guess I'm not passionate enough to have a gun I can't fire.

@yyeezyy630 5 лет назад

Freedom4All it feels like a waste of money to me unless you find like a cheap decent looking double barrel shotgun for like 50$ that doesn't work and would look good above a fireplace it just seems pointless

@kingwiththeax6880 5 лет назад

Be the “tall blade of grass”! My father bought guns in the ‘60s with the intent to collect, then put them in the basement closet. 20 years ago I started taking them out of the cartons and cleaning and inspecting them. When he gave them to me a couple years ago, I tore them down and cleaned them inside and out and made sure they were in good order... then I took them out and shot them... and killed deer and shot rounds of sporting clays with them. And generally made them live again. And I have enjoyed them and valued them more than my father knew they could be enjoyed and valued. And they are still collectible and valuable... they are priceless to me. And my father is proud that he made good buys 60 years ago, and that I love them so much.

@JackOSUrulz 5 лет назад

Kingwiththeax very cool. I too had a dad that was a collector of sorts. Mainly .22 revolvers and shotguns. Nothing real fancy, just stuff he enjoyed. He did have a nice Inland M1 Carbine that looked nearly new, it was the best of his collection. I have them now, and they will never “leave” our family. He also had bought a little .22 High Standard Sentinel in 1967, and its still in the box with all the paperwork and receipt...although I did take it out and clean it, it’s never been fired aside from the factory.

@kingwiththeax6880 5 лет назад

JackOSUrulz, what a great M1 carbine! My wife’s patrrnal grandfather had an unfired, commercial M1 carbine that went to his son (my wife’s uncle). I always envied that gun. I don’t remember the maker. My dad passed a Savage 29B pump action .22 to me (with box and paperwork). He used it to carry it to school and shoot rats at the local dump after school and they paid him a nickel per rat. A few rats paid for his box of ammo. Times have changed...

@mattrowley1675 5 лет назад

Mark is the shit!!!

@kollinkirby8218 5 лет назад

This has me questioning what I should do with My great great grandpas 1873 Winchester. It has some worn out parts in the action. so to get it working parts would have to be changed out. I would probably never fire it if I had it repaired because it was a black powder gun. I do keep it clean and oiled but not scrubbed (patina). Should I get it repaired and not have it original family heirloom or repair it. .

@ragnarragnarsson3128 5 лет назад

I would consider replacing the worn parts if available, and keep the original parts in a safe place to maintain originality. Bring it up to shootable condition and load some rounds with a non corrosive black powder substitute like triple 7 or Black MZ I think it is called. Enjoy it. Always work up your loads starting on the low end. Also make sure there is no air gap between the powder and bullet. It could detonate rather than burn and wreck the gun. Fill the empty space with dry cream of wheat or some other filler. Lots of info on the website about bpcr. Cheers

@ragnarragnarsson3128 5 лет назад

I would not refinish the stock or metal. Keep the patina and just keep it oiled with ballistol

@CC-mm3bl 5 лет назад

"You bet your sweet bippy." Never heard that saying before, but that had me dying. lmao

@aaronramsey3696 5 лет назад

"It's degrees of suck." Haha. I so enjoy listening to Mark.

@halnywiatr 4 года назад

At car shows there are ribbons awarded to "Trailer Queens" and there are prizes for longest distance driven to the show. The guys having the most fun are the daily drivers.

@fdg5112 5 лет назад

Mark, GREAT VIDEOS! I love seeing how you restore firearms to usable condition! Could you do a video of DIY stuff? Or maybe a "To gunsmith or not"?

@tapanilofving4741 5 лет назад

Mark is the best human on this planet :)

@marcuschauvin7039 5 лет назад

I guess I am “Pattern collector”. I have one of a few great rifles and pistols, but I shoot them all! Even rebarreled a Yugo Mauser last year (2018). It looks original, super accurate now and a great deer and hog rifle for East Texas.

@spyderxtra777 5 лет назад

I buy guns strictly based on the fun to dollars ratio, you can keep your "collector" guns.

@Sausagehandlebars 5 лет назад

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@yyeezyy630 5 лет назад

spyderxtra777 I'll buy the collector guns and shoot them till they won't shoot anymore because they are the most fun guns to shoot

@spyderxtra777 5 лет назад

Till Wowler that thumb is still gray for me chief, but there, I’ll bump it up to 2 just for you 😘

@klonidier 4 года назад

Mark is doing his thing at his shop, graciously giving us his knowledge, and takes a hit off of his cigar at 3:03..... Sir, you are a legend! Thanks Eric for doing your thing and introducing us to so many great people.

@daleb1225 5 лет назад

I find it odd what your consideration of a collector is, in my opinion who cares, I consider myself a collector because I have a lot of them, its that simple. The rest of the things discussed about not passing along a gun that is dangerous or stopping rust seems like common sense. Maybe the conversations you are having in relation to collectors are at an ellette level but remember just like playing cards there are many levels of players and a few types of money but they all consider themself collectors, some are just better than others.

@SentinelIP 5 лет назад

Mark is 100% awesome, my neck hurts from nodding along to everything you guys were saying. Thank you both! Now all I want is a new number 4 Lee Enfield that I can love and shoot every month for the love of shooting the gun I first shot as a 13 year old cadet.

@johnmcmorris1170 5 лет назад

These guys are spot on. You don't have to be a "certified gunsmith" to take a vintage firearm out of its stock and inspect it and clean it. There a ton of resources available about basic "field stripping" any firearm so it can properly cleaned and inspected.

@rogerj412 5 лет назад

My 20 year old nephew has more sense when it comes to collecting guns than most people do. He owns a Mosin, a short Mauser, and a M1917 Enfield (Winchester manufactured). We shoot the snot out those rifles. No they will never be worth a ton of money but they are well kept and function damn near perfectly. My brother is cleaning up a long Mauser for me that my nephew bought me for my birthday. I can't wait to get it on a firing line and break it in.

@maxhumber6170 5 лет назад

More gunsmith vlogs!

@33journeyman 15 дней назад

Thank you Eric and Mark for addressing this subject matter in great detail. For those of you who are considering doing a preservation / conservation project on your favorite firearm please consider looking up Mark Novak of Anvil Gunsmithing. Case in point he did a 3 part series on a Winchester Model 71 that really demonstrates the Collector Ethos that they're talking about. His videos are clear and consise and more importantly prove that these trusted firearms can be absolutely restored and not be diminished in their value and worth to even those who collect Patina firearms. Again , thanks to both Mark and Eric in their collective knowledge for their dedication to this subject matter. Keep your guns running safely and ready to be enjoyed by future generations !

@richarddixon7276 5 лет назад

I 'm a Brit and the only time I will ever laugh at Mark is when He come's out with a deliberately comedic comment . keeping a weapon in good condition is nothing but good sense . Eric , Mark , Othias & Mae , Ian & Paul Harrell , I thank You all ! , My enjoyment of life is better because of Your video's . Thank You again !

@IraqiSniper107 5 лет назад

Mr. Fred Flintstone!

@RobertoDonatti 5 лет назад

Fantastic video!

@willwood487 10 месяцев назад

Excellent points. the whole reason I do what I do on my little channel

@derekwest2160 5 лет назад

Awesome video. Love you guys.

@derweibhai 5 лет назад

Between the two of you guys, this is the best video you guys have put out to date. Loved it!!!!

@bennettguns3809 3 года назад

Amen to this argument about collecting firearms! Gunshow sellers always think something is worth top dollar no matter the condition.

@bobsmalser8304 3 года назад

Dirt isn't patina. ;)

@wolfwind9658 5 лет назад

My Chinese Civil War used German made c96 that was rebored to 9mm is perfect to me. Because it is mine.

@madmac8757 5 лет назад

safety 1st 2nd an foremost if it aint safe it aint worth anything

@montanamountainmen6104 5 лет назад

If its a antique let it be, if its not restore it . Why not if you plan on keeping it. I collect firearms but also use them, no safe queens . Speaking of Mustangs, my mother in law got a new 1964 1/2 when she graduated high school. 30 years later after setting in the barn for years she restored it. Guy saw it in the driveway offered her $28,000 she took the money , laughed all the way to the bank.

@4351steve 5 лет назад

It would be great to have this discussion again and add Gun Jesus’, “Forgotten Weapons” take on this subject.

@dcarpenter4277 5 лет назад

Hey Eric and youtubers! Any books you would recommend on starting a good collection of WW1 to present firearms? From all sides of the war? Thanks in advance!

@mr1enrollment Год назад

Mark: do any of your videos show a Winchester 52 (B,C,D) ?

@marknovak8255 Год назад

No sir, however I'm open to suggestions

@mr1enrollment Год назад

@@marknovak8255 Suggested !

@eggbert191 5 лет назад

Eric did you show Mark that green Mosin you chopped up?

@nicholasdecastro9562 5 лет назад

G Lewis he did, and Mark actually had a fun time shooting it.

@emiliohernandez2790 9 месяцев назад

Im.just beyond madd ,pissed,irritated at myself...from my younger years...I loved guns...but sold all of them for one stupid reason or another....They are all worth...or not worth...they were made with quality even the surplus rifles i had no idea what i was holding when i had it in my hands...Ticks me off...I was young.and dumb...For selling such quality...Now its all plastic and run of the mill...But now i can't undo beyond dumb decisions...i hang on to everything !Great video guys!

@1917Enfield 5 лет назад

I have a fairly sizeable collection. Mostly Milsurps. When I get a new one home, the first thing I do is pull it apart. Inspect it, clean it and make sure there is no excess wear. Because they are all shooters. I will never be rich enough to own a gun that I won't shoot. I get under the stockline, I check the sear, the bolt face, the chamber and I borescope the bore. At the range I fire 3 rounds and inspect the brass. I look for flattened primers, bulges, cracks and burns. And when I get home they all get pulled apart and cleaned. Every time. I have way too much money invested in them to let them sit dirty. I do the maintenance. I do the repairs. I keep them in the same, if not better condition than when I bought them. Numrich loves me. I give less than a damn about their value other than what I paid for them. My worry is one of these 100 + year old firearms blowing up in my face. And when I am gone and my kids and grandkids get all these old guns, I don't want them blowing up in their faces either.

@archetypalculinarian 5 лет назад

What a great video. This is quality content. I’m not a collector, of much of anything, but everything said here makes perfect sense. Just a bit of protective and preventative maintenance makes all the difference.

@nakoawarrior3186 Год назад

I had a 30 carbine,......it shot like shit,......so I bought a Universal Arms 30 Carbine,.... it shot exactly the same,.. both did not meet my standards of accuracy. They were excellently made guns with a lousy cartridge. I sold them both for $200.00 I got rid of all my Military junkers in 1992,....so I could have gun's that were not worn out and abused. Yip I ruined the value of all of them they looked like brand new,.....Beautiful wood and blued steel,... one I did apple wood green and I put 6 coats of polly on them. Then I bought real guns,.. Winchester's from the 80's, Rugers, Taurus's, Gun's that don't blow hot gas back in your face. Collect family gun's that have been taken care of,.......all of my gun's are used for hunting rain or shine and they still look new. I have never seen a valuable Military junker, ever**** You want a like new used gun you buy Police trade in's from America,....they shoot them once or twice a year and ride around in a holster till their traded in,....might have some dings but practically new,...just broken in for cheap Baretta's,. HK-USP's, what ever they carried. I'm sure its the same with their shotgun's and rifles too they are not worn out like Military gun's. If you sell your gun at a pawn shop,....they give you $25.00 for it,.... then they sell it for $400.00, never do that,...sell it at a community gun show for $400.00 -VS- $25.00.

@Ws_minion 5 лет назад

Mark is an absolute legend. Very jealous of those privileged enough to be taught by him, what an experience that must be.

@ghostuscoyote 5 лет назад

Please make a video about how to clean/preserve old milsurps. I would LOVE a video on how to remove light rust and preserve the wooden stocks properly!

@doraran2138 5 лет назад

Imagine 2 earlier 20th Century Colt pistols. Imagine both guns with indisputable provenance to major US political figure. Imagine both those guns in a museum with a generous budget. Now imagine both those guns with a 1970's era blue-black, dip refinishing.That is the fate of an M1911 Colt Automatic and an M1917 Colt Revolver at the Truman Library in Independence, MO. "Bubbas" and "Fudds" are everywhere.

@donmurrin5269 3 года назад

An O'2 conversation in a oxygen deprived age. Words like stewardship and conserve. Do no harm. I'm a scrounging procurer. I never met an old gun. I couldn't find something to like about it. I'm binge-ing on old boy's rifles. Giving the attention required. To reflect the character and quality of these cute little marvels. Then bestow the finished pieces. To grandkids, nieces and nephews. And good kids that understand now....what the role and significance of ceremonial receivership of said piece implies. For the kids that aren't my blood. Well, the term Dutch Uncle is introduced to their ponderous growing minds.

@Frank-bf6gx 5 лет назад

Great video guys very informative i bought a broom handle c96 looked great but when i took the grips off not so great

@johnny32149 5 лет назад

Love his view point common sense and knowledge with a reasonable level of know how broken down for the common low level gun owner

@mattpeacock5208 2 года назад

OMG!!! You had a great uncle Umptyphratz too??? I thought I had the only uncle with that name! Wait a minute are you my long lost cousin?????

@jaydee5156 9 месяцев назад

I buy only what I like and I won't buy anything that I don't intend to shoot. Rare or vintage items may only come out for exercise once every year or two. It also gives me the opportunity to do maintenance. I take good care of the guns in my collection, but collectible value only means something after I'm gone. Quite a few were inherited, but all of the guns I've purchased besides were for my personal enjoyment and not what I can make on it at the next auction.

@TheIrishAmish 10 месяцев назад

Eric, SLOW DOWN. He talks so fast it’s irritating. And then Mark starts picking up his cadence.

@Shane-Singleton 5 лет назад

I like the way Mr. Novak explains things. Love watching his restorations and repairs on C&Rsenal.

@HircineDaWolf 3 года назад

cool didn't know you had these videos with mark, recently started watching him

@benrobertson7855 2 года назад

Hey.thanks ,you just got me to strip and oil my 1862 p53...was putting it off these last few days..I do it every Christmas regardless of if its been shot in that period. Thanks..from nz.

@alanincardona1879 2 года назад

Big gripe, that teeth grinding word " PATINA" yeah, oil encapsulated rust! Try explaining that to the collector. All you get is a wild eyed look if you mention conservation and how it should be done. " you will destroy the rusty finish" patina." That's when I give up. There not going to listen, and that firearm is going to die.

@enricomandragona163 6 месяцев назад

Hey Eric how's Mark's down the Rabbit hole 😂we go lol ..!! Great video. You guys need to get together and do another one 🕜

@williammills7778 4 года назад

Mark and Eric are great together on camera. One thing is for sure they are passionate about firearms. If you aren't already please consider supporting them on Patreon

@donmurrin5269 3 года назад

Provocative commentary. Motivating for me. I've recovered a ithaca Flues that was left in the outdoors. I need all new wood. And Beau Coup time. However stewardship is the plan.

@StarSwarm. 5 лет назад

I have an unfired Savage No 4 Mk1* still with cosmoline. It’s not wrapped or anything but definitely grappling with whether to shoot it or not. I’m normally someone who completely objects to the ‘safe queen’ principle but also think it’s important to preserve history. I’ll work it out. But remember... we don’t own our historic firearms... we’re merely temporary custodians.

@fredhill3565 5 лет назад

Thank you for your video on gun safe. I didn’t about the hot ammo shooting outside. Almost all the times I’ve shot outside it was cold.

@Shane-Singleton 5 лет назад

I'm a collector in the fact that i buy based on attributes beyond the functionality of the firearm for practical intended usage purposes. Such as my mil-surp stuff. I have a 30-06 hunting rifle. I bought it for practical purposes. The same function "could" be accomplished by a M1903. But I don't want my 1903 for that purposes. But I want to shoot it. I want to take care of it. I don't want to wear it out but I want to enjoy it. And if i ever need it to be refinished I want it done in a manor that the arsenal would have done it either phosphate or bluing and stock refurnishing depending on the weapon. Everybody has their own wants and desires for their "collection". I want mine to be an enjoyment of nostalgic function rather than just aesthetics. I don't have any holy grails or unique pieces. Most of my stuff isn't particularly valuable. But I love it. Maybe i'm a "user" rather than a "collector". It doesn't really matter much as i'm going to do as i'm going to do. I love my stuff. And I keep and maintain it in original configuration so future generations can do the same.

@richardturk7162 3 года назад

I agree with Mark. I traded for an early 1950 Russian SKS that was used but still had a shit ton of cosmoline in the stock and in the gun. No visible rust but I tore it down and found so much mung in the corners. Finally got all the cosmoline off the stock and in the gun and saved it from rotting away from the inside due to lack of maintenance A lot of it is in the white from wear but its historically a significant piece so I had to bring it back to life. It shoots very well and a pleasure to shoot. I recently bought a 1964 Winchester model 94 in 30 30 and 90% of the rifle is excellent but the receiver has the usual bluing issues the 64 and later guns had. I am torn on re bluing the receiver but it looks like grandpa's used deer rifle. I guess I will just keep the receiver oiled and keep an eye on it.

@patrickcolahan7499 2 года назад

You talk about buying a used, milsurp rifle and the first thing you do is disassemble it to inspect and clean. I do that with a brand new weapon. You may be shocked what I have found in brand new high quality weapons. Maintenance is maintenance. Lubricants get old, just like your car, you need to change it. Parts are under exceptional loads and strains, they are mechanical and will wear and will fail. Better to find it on the bench than in the field. Good discussion guys, thank you.

@jarek0737 2 года назад

Mark is right to a point, the only company I know that more recently was building rifles out of steel and walnut, and is still around is Zastava.. The only reason I enjoy there stuff is because well it is just that Steel and walnut, the only thing that is plastic was the butt plates on them. They are the Timex in the digital age, the only company still producing Mauser style actions on Walnut stocks..

@TheLastCockney 5 лет назад

That '65 Mustang will be a pile of rust but I'm pretty sure my '73 Land-Rover will still be running in 2169. Nothing stops old Landies (especially the brakes!).

@PhilG999 5 лет назад

All well said. But *I* have one gripe! Why in the HELL would you lay that cigar on the worktable? Any oil or other chemicals would ruin the taste! We have these things called "ashtrays". And the can of CRC next to it didn't give me a warm fuzzy either!