Anvil 078: #4 Mk.1 Truck Gun Carbine Part 1 

Keep it going Mark, you deserve your own network!!

It's also great that they chose an appropriate donor rifle instead of just grabbing the nearest Enfield.

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Can do, if you already have the parts

@@marknovak8255 I wish. But I got two projects that you can work some magic on. Can you reline a barrel, or should I go with a specialist like John Taylor or Redman's?

Got a pallet of them just a bit north in Canada if you like.

He did a video a a bit ago where he tells you how to contact him so he definitely sees your message.

@@blackirish781 I'll message him when I can pay for it. Lol It'll be a while.

Your dead right, I had a savage with 2 groove barrel and it shot great!

In my humble opinion the National Firearms Act of 1934 is a direct violation of the 2nd Amendment.

@@BillB23 always has been, sadly the SCOTUS didn't kill it when it would have been easy...

Mitchell Hoffarth Amen!!!!!

I've often thought that Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms would be a great name for a country store.

@@BillB23 Bob's Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Entertainment.

And, don't forget some smelling salts!

YES

That setup got the last 3 inches of the bore running true to the muzzle device. I'll take it...there were other things going on here that we didn't talk about, or were edited out. But you get that

Former nuclear submariner. :)

You have to if your gona be a gunsmith

Noticed the same here.. no.4 hand on a sigar ?

Exactly, as a truck gun in Montana it just needs to be minute of bear at a distance of "Oh Shit" and it is pent accurate enough

@@micahreid5553 Permission to use the above accuracy specification on my customers....That's great!

Agree. It pained me to watch this.

Chinese short rifle?

@@googlepissoff5776 www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/01/16/m1917-carbine/ Here's an article from Othias

A lot of them are going back to their Enfields unofficially. the new Tikkas aren't holding up as well in the extreme climates. When they bring the cold Tikkas inside moisture is building up on them and then it freezes again locking the actions in place. there was so much slop in the Enfield actions that the frost wasn't an issue.

Like we said, this design is not all that precise, but it is TOUGH

LOTS of woop

The barrel was that out of round. All the dancing in the back was necessary to have the last 3 inches of the bore running true.

Especially breaking the rule to have no more stick out than 2.5 x the diameter of what you're turning.

@@stevendupre2792 is that rule for the chuck or the steadi rest?

@@ScottKenny1978 Either, or. Its for any stick out. I also know he's full of it about having the barrel indicated because he has no way of knowing that the OD of the barrel (where its riding on the steady rest) is also concentric with the ID.

@@stevendupre2792 so, when the barrel is a corkscrew, how do you determine bore concentricity? The only way I can think of involves stuffing a soft copper rod that is land diameter into the bore and making sure it doesn't wobble as you rotate the barreled action.

msuitepyon they supposedly had some chopped down lee Enfields for tunnelers. Supposedly

Or he was thinking of the cut down ones from new hope the desert junkers use

Good one. 👍

@@gabemando7823 sounds like an armourer's job and not a real military adoption

Slaughter Round if I recall they had evidence of them after the war, not during, and they were from the German’s perspective, hence the supposedly

Burned up an UNREAL amount of TIME..................and that is the point I've been trying to make. Thanks, my hats is off to YOU

It's what he had, and he wanted a #5 sorta lookalike

I had a Mauser rechamber in a 308 I love the hell out of it

A Mauser action would be a better use of time but... chopped enfield is pretty unique so it’s got some cool factor

A mauser 98 in 9.3x62 shortened down into a k88/g91 size, with a stutzen stock and mannlicher fore-end.. recoil would be pretty stout..

I'd dig a short Enfield in .280/30 but I hate cock on close actions so I'm probably going to get a K31 or Mauser 98, UK sucks so not like I can practically own all of them :(

Spending a lot of money for something that's going to get beat to crap, yes. But fascinating to see Mark's thinking.

I have a No4 Mk1 in bad shape that imp refurbishing so I can understand where he’s coming from so as much as I hate to see a mil surp barrel chop, it’s understandable.

May I add...the M1917 has the best of all 3 and none of the vices.......

My opinion: the Springfield is the best of all 3. I have handled all 3 of them but only own a Mauser and Springfield (by choice). The Springfield has action speed and smoothness comparable with the Enfield, but action strength comparable with the Mauser upon which it's based. There's a lot of things about the Enfield I simply don't like. The problem is the original gun did not possess sufficient action strength (different from external ruggedness), and this limited the power of .303. And because Britain didn't want to change cartridges or fully retire the earliest guns, this removed incentive to make future guns more robust which, in turn, precluded any significant loading improvements on the existing cartridge. It was a never-ending circle-jerk that ultimately crippled Britain's small arms development for over 50 years. Had the original rifle been stronger, the cartridge could have either been more powerful to start with or refit with improved powders later on. You look at the Mauser, the 1903, the Mosin. All of these were sufficiently strong actions that they were able to fire significantly more punishing rounds than they originally released with. Then you see the Enfield, limited to its slow-burning powders in order to keep bolt thrust under control.

@@WardenWolf It may be technically right what you say about the strength of the Enfield system, but did it make the Enfield a worse infantry weapon? The higher power of 8x57, 7,62x54R or .30-06 may be a technical advantage and give you theoretically a higher range. But lying in a trench or attacking enemy-occupied villages, typically fighting at distances between 20 and 200 meters what difference does it make? I think the lower powered cartridge is even an advantage since the lower recoil puts less stress on the soldier and makes follow-up shots easier. The development of infantry weapons and calibers pretty much prooves that. But then, machine guns are a completely different pair of shoes...

@@WardenWolf Well the British did indeed look at changing the cartridge and the rifle prior to WWI. If the war had not started the British would have continued the development of the Pattern 14 rifle in a different cartridge. The large amount of .303 left over after the Great War (and financial crisis) led them to improving the old standby they had. The US 1903 was a Mauser (the US paid royalties for patent infringement to Mauser). The Pattern 14 was the British interpretation of the Mauser. The US Model 1917 was the US conversion of the British interpretation of the Mauser. So yes, they did decide the Mauser design was superior.

Sounds like you have the basics for a nice truck gun. Got a lathe? The missing extractor spring is a couple bucks from Numrich...

None of my indicators have enough range for THIS barrel!

There's a HUGE difference between a Gunsmith and a "parts changer"!

No, he was thinking of an Obrez Moisin.

Sexy equipment, for sure

It makes sense. Except legally, in both the USA Canada, barrel length is measured from the back end of the forcing cone and does not include the cylinder. He put out a correction on that in a later episode.

I did most of the engineering on that trench carbine also

I love the idea of a 1917 carbine. Wondering also if it is possible to carbine a Remington 81 (acknowledging springs would have to be balanced or changed), or does that business in the middle of the barrel prevent that?

@@kenibnanak5554 I would suggest you contact Mark via email. I'll tell you upfront. These kind of projects are not cheap or fast. I am willing to wait and pay for quality work. I can tell you that shortening a long recoil system rifle like the Model 81 is a whole lot more effort than doing it to a bolt rifle.

Ken: It can be done, I've seen short SBR 8s and 81s down to even 10 inch barrels. They look sweet, especially with the FBI extended mags. Go check out the forum on "The Great Model 8 and 81" Its a website devoted to Browning's springpole rifles. A couple people have done what you are looking for. There is info and even pics concerning that conversion on the website. Not too many people into Model 8s and 81s anymore, I absolutely love my 35Rem and 300Sav 81s.

Me too. Handed down from Grandpa. It's got a few dents, dings, and scratches. But the inside is immaculate. Dad said last it was shot was the mid eighties with only 3 rounds because that's all they had.

Yep

Ive seen a obrez 303 british. Really bad ass looking. Id be abit shy to fire that weapon 1 handed hahaha must be fun shooting that beast.