As a black guy in Atlanta. I really appreciate how you guys look at both sides of situations equally. I honestly didn't know they broke down a gate. Thanks for helping by using realistic examples that apply to all of us and being fair to all.
I lived in Atlanta in 1991. Was little but I remember going to watch the Braves play at old Fulton Country Stadium 😬 anyways, once they decided to break the private gate down, all bets are off and it's no longer a protest. I 100% believe they would have been looted, or worse, had they not been armed
95% of American gun owners have the same level of training as these folks. Hats off to them for taking a stand when no one would help them. That's our 2nd Amendment in action. It's easy to criticize because they were affluent white folks that spent 32 years restoring a run down mansion and they don't look tactical.
I have no problem with what they did. Ultimately they defended their property and no one got hurt. You cant "over-think" things in an emergency, you must act quickly.
Idk if its 95% i would guess more like 65% most of us gun owners live our guns and know how to use them these people with the pink polo are democrats and busy lawyer's they look untrained as hell
Nicholas Rodriguez 100% of “protestors” would still get mowed down by most hillbillies with guns, if said “protestors” decided to do dumb shit like step on private property with ill intent...
Glad you all addressed this situation from a reasonable perspective. Having a wife that stood shoulder to shoulder with her husband, regardless of how she handled the pistol, is priceless. Good bless them.
@@seanhazelwood3311 Still not a reason to stand on your lawn waving loaded firearms at the trespassers. Keep your firearms with you, and hot, but you don't point a gun at anything unless you plan to pull the trigger. I'm pretty sure a jury wouldn't side with you for shooting into a crowd of people who broke a gate to walk down your street and yell mean things at you in the middle of the afternoon. It seems to me that too many people are too quick to grab a gun and point it at someone for the any reason. Keep in mind, that these two wanna-be commandos took it upon themselves to escalate the situation, drawing all of the worst kind of attention to themselves, the second they decided to waltz out waving their guns at this crowd of trespassers. I don't know how they thought that was going to turn out, but it was THEM (the homeowners) who escalated the situation to lethal. Do you reach for your gun every time you see teens skateboarding someplace where there are signs up prohibiting skateboarding? Do you reach for a gun every time you see a smoker throw a burning cigarette butt out their car window? Do you reach for a gun every time a driver makes an illegal lane change, cutting you off, and then flips you the bird when you honk at them? There are times when deadly force is necessary, and then there are times when it isn't. There are grey areas where you might need to be prepared for it, just in case, but if you escalate the situation to deadly, regardless of the circumstances, then you're a dangerous idiot.
Moto Mo a mob of people breaks down a gate of a private development in the name of BLM or protests of that nature I’m grabbing my guns and doing the SAME damn thing 100 times out of 10. You’re out of your mind
Their property was damaged, they broke down the gate.The gate fairy is not gonna fix that for free, the "protestors" threatened to kill his family, his dog and burn down his house, whatever they were actually prepared to do the only reason they didn't is the homeowners were armed with firearms
@Kushman420tv post your address so you can put that to the test. Maybe you'll get lucky and get criminally vandalized every day. Nobody wants to see their hard work get destroyed and some people are willing to die to protect it. You think people should just be allowed to destroy what you build 😂 There is no point in even talking to somebody as stupid as you.
Totally OK to open carry on your property, especially when there are looters on the street. Not OK to point your gun at them unless there’s a real threat of harm.
@@manderson7173 reportedly protesters were heard saying they would burn the couples house down and kill their dog. If that is true any one of us would have done the same thing as these two.
@Bob Teaching firearms "etiquette" to children is the responsibility of a parent...not school teachers. If a parent can't be bothered to teach their children fundamentals of life, at home, then they aren't a parent and shouldn't have children. Full stop.
Log Splitta No that’s why Natural Rights exists. It predates and overrides written law. If you break a law to act within yourself natural rights, most any court will throw it out.
Very good, i never heard it put that way but i like the analogy a lot!!👍 I absolutely believe they had the right to be out there protecting there property with guns in hand, otherwise you know they would have (at least) busted windows and who knows maybe killed them if things escalated. I think it is totally ignorant to address the fact the woman maybe the man to was pointing there guns all over the place and at times at the crowd, at this point the rioters were already breaking the law and trespassing so who gives a shit. Think of it this way, the home owners had guns ""because of the rioters breaking onto private property"" they went out side ""because of the rioters breaking onto private property"" the home owners were absolutely scared and in fear of there lives ""because the rioters breaking onto private property"".....bottom line here if they did shoot and killed (if the rioter rushed them) it would have (should have been justified) the mayor, governor and the dumb cunt lawyer that wants to prosecute the home owners for doing nothing more than standing there ground should all be fired and kicked out of the state or better yet the country.
As a point, the mayor's house could not be accessed from that street. He lives four streets over and half a mile up the road. The gate had a "No Trespassing" sign on it.
Look at some of the closeups of her, that lady was scared as all hell, he’s in socks feet, no time to put shoes on, if he wasn’t scared he was damn close to it. I would not only have done the same thing but have done the same with way few less people coming on our property. Thirty miles from nearest town in some beautiful Idaho mountains. A sheriff’s deputy once told my wife after she reported some illegal hunters( that they did catch), that it is a 40min respond time to reach us with them running code ( lights&sirens). We are at the end of a1.5mi long drive way that is repeatedly posted private drive and no trespassing signs. Hell ya you are met/greeted by a armed home/property owner if we have no idea who you are or why your coming down our drive. Yes we know how to use firearms very well. I grew up with them using them, I am also retired military (Army Infantry) and have taught my family what I know. My wife has taken several classes (with my urging and blessings) and has passed new stuff on to our adult son and myself (I sure as hell don’t know everything) and we train at home and in home, We have enough property and a mountain backstop that allows us to do all the shooting we want. HAVE A GREAT INDEPENDENCE DAY
You bring the skills and the equipment you have when you get The Call. They weren't very skilled, but they were willing and brave, and a standard-capacity magazine in an AR-15 isn't something to laugh at.
@@jabbafo he like James Yeager(his former boss) & Patriot Nurse get amped up a few times 📈 but they have legitimate disputes. No You Tube gun channel host, hostess is 💯. Be realistic & open.
I love how well you both articulate every gun gripe. Especially when there's a political swing stuck in it. Thank you both for these. This one was fantastic as well. Bring back the ability of debate for sure and please revive patriotism.
Amen young men thanks for speaking out. Thanks for your service. I am a 71 year old Vietnam Vet and I am mad, don’t go after the flag around me please. I conducted a lot of burial services when I was a drill sergeant at Fort Polk. I handed that folded flag to the loved ones. I want my family to receive my flag when I die. Monument I hope they never go to the Wall or marine corp monument. Thanks for speaking out. God bless that couple, time to stand up.
Going to City Hall and going to someone’s house are totally different. It’s the difference between peacefully protesting and an angry mob. Boundaries are definitely being crossed, trespassing is a crime!
exactly where were at in history. bunch of white folk do this and some people dont bat an eye. put on a sheet and go put them uppity ni*gers in their place, aint nothing wrong with that, right? now some people go protesting on some of the shit going down, effecting their lives... cant have that, your inconvieniancing me! well, youre still not listening, but got your attenriin now. maybe try listening
@@fyrebatskymarshall1778 Did you just say that it’s ok for the KKK to put on sheets and terrorize people in their homes? What’s kind of sick weirdo are you?!?!
22:38 - According to the SCOTUS, the police are actually NOT required to help citizens in need, so people had best get their act together. If they don't, all our police may start acting like that coward during the Parkland shooting.
23:49 Respectfully, the 2nd Amendment does NOT “give you the right” to protect what’s yours. That is a God-given right, a Natural Right. The 2nd Amendment DOES codify it into law, so that our God-given rights (bestowed to you at birth), can be recognized, codified and protected legally.
Actually the second amendment doesn't give you the right to bear arms but guarantees that the government can not remove your god given right to bear arms. It assumes that you inherently have this right from birth and that it can not be taken away by the government.
@@firstorder2450 well damn someone needs to tell that to the government because my 2nd amendment has been taken away..Why ? Combat Veterans with PTSD. VA reports to ATF / FBI, your now on a list. That is after I defended the USA in Africa and Afghanistan, got a medical honorable discharge.
Unfortunately most people and politicians don't understand history or the constitution. We have become a weak nation due to politicians brainwashing of citizens to make them dependent on the government.
I think their reasons and what they did was fine, but man they were flashing muzzels at everyone including each other and the lady had to finger so far in the trigger guard
Blocking a street is arguable because it's ok if the protest is moving. If they are stagnant, it's illegal. There are so many thin lines when it comes to these things.
@Booge Nautilus I agree. I think that while racial injustice is very real and should be fought, smashing your local restaurants isn't going to make cops stop murdering kids. Take it to the problem.
Blocking a highway is perfectly peaceful. Painting a street is perfectly peaceful but there are much better uses of paint. Streets and highways are in the public property domain so blocking them is acceptable. Shouting is fine. Trespassing is not acceptable. Walking down the street or sidewalk is fine, walking on the grass/yard is trespassing.
@@philiporrell2936 lol and? All the other house so in the neighborhood are also still standing, and they didn't need to point loaded guns at a huge group of protesters. I'm pro second amendment, but what a painfully stupid argument lmao most of these protestors are far more american %75 of the bootlickers you see populating this comment section.
i quit watching the so called news on television a long time ago due to their spinning of the situation into their own personal narrative. it is my hope that you will continue your efforts to bring out the truth to the public and maybe help some individuals see the evil motivations of some politicians and news media.
That St Louis couple did the right thing. They drew the line and nobody got killed. I would have started popping grapes. My wife is a USMC vet and would not be far behind as she would have also had an AR. So in reality this couple should be commended.
The only thing I'm *really* concerned with regarding this situation in SL is the prosecutor now "investigating" the couple. In other words, she seems to be looking for anything she can charge them with to make a political statement. It's not right. Good vid guys.
@@zyxyx6754 Yes and no... It was her statement regarding the investigation that made it appear as if she was looking for something to charge them with, not clear them. We've all seen politically motivated prosecutions and can generally recognize them. This case is in some danger of becoming one of them...I hope not...but we'll see. So ill clarify: it isn't the act of investigation itself I'm concerned with, you're right, that's par for the course. It's the interviews I've watched with her regarding the investigation that got my attention and has me worried.
Zyxyx right... we need their last 20 years of social media statements, an audit of their spending trends over the last 10 years, and for good measure... they will review their high school records looking for ANYTHING that could be construed as “BAD”.
I don’t mean anyone here, but I remember watching a Paul Herrel video and he and his friends were out, and a group of people started shooting at them. His friend “joe” who had also been in the marines ended up throwing down his weapon and getting behind the truck for cover with Paul. So if someone out there with no training or has never been in a situation where they feel threatened thinks it’s okay to mock this couple and their handling of their firearms, maybe they ought to think again about how badass they think they are going to be when the poo hits the fan.
Blessing in disguise. I hadn’t been able to convince my conservative wife into touching a gun. She saw what happened to this couple, now she wants to go to the range with me.
"...saw what happened to this couple..." What exactly happened to them to make her want to shoot? People walked down their street yelling stuff? "Oh my god, Frank - THEY'VE GOT SPRAY PAINT!! GET THE GUNS!!!!" Maybe take it down a notch, Rambo.
@@Point_Particle you're right we don't know what that group of people wanted. Why not be able to protect themselves had it got violent, that's the logic the OP was trying to project with his comment. Try thinking outside the box, you might find it's not square...
@@Point_Particle Or maybe refrain from breaking and entering into someone's private property in a State with castle doctrine if you don't want firearms pointed at you. Pretty simple.
The homeowners display of force most likely saved lives here, their's. If they had cowered inside their home it would have emboldened the mob. The presence of ARMED resistance deescalated this situation, I have no doubt. Also who knows who was in the house that they could have been protecting? Their children? Their Grandchildren? Who knows. The homeowners did exactly what was required, they maybe could have done it better (prettier), but they got the job done peacefully and that is all that matters. I say well done to the homeowners.
They likely saved the lives of the Marxist scum the breached their property. By confronting them in the manner they did, they received the message and retreated from the property.
When you make a threat, whether its vocal or you're just trying to convince me with your actions, I will take you at your word, and do what I have to do ,to eliminate the threat, and I hope lives are not taken,but I could not guarantee that, so it's up to you to how you want to play, but remember play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
You missed that this couple moved into this area when it was a nearly abandoned area. They worked for twenty years to rebuild the house. Because of their work, this became a very high end neighborhood.
Anyone who is, is just an Elitist who thinks only people with training should have firearms. While everyone could always use more training, that should not be a bar for entry or self defense.
Which ones did? I don’t sub to many gun channels tbh. I find it hard to imagine that many would come down hard on them. They were exercising their 2A rights
@@SimplePhotoshopTutorials they're just elitist and jealous that someone that isnt them actually took a stand and did something instead of just tweeting about it.
@@SimplePhotoshopTutorials Exactly. Together we stand, Divided we fall. And they wanna keep us divided so that we dont get the idea to get rid of those in power.
I don't know why this is even a discussion. They were totally justified in defending themselves and, despite an apparent lack of training (which really means we internet operators are being picky) they did not hurt themselves or anyone else... BUT... They displayed the bravery, the commitment, and the equipment necessary to do what they "had to do" and the potential cost of their own lives. We should ALL take notes.
@@DumbleDoff I agree, but at this point, assuming were on the brink of civil war, there's no time... Every 2A defender is a defender we should support. NOT ridicule. This couple got a LOT of ridicule from E-Commandos. We can't expect everyone to be an elite operator. Safety is IMPORTANT, but morale and encouragement is vital to gathering our group.
Eric Chad, thank you very much. You just gave me an idea with all the bowl that they spread when we use it to fertilize our gardens be more than enough for every person in this world that fertilize the garden with.
That couple probably saved their neighborhood from getting trashed. Their gun handling wasn't text book , but they did what they had to do. Thank God for the 2nd amendment. 🇺🇸
Julian Jaimes ok millennial you mad that Karen and ken defended them selves with a big scary ar and a pistol also who the hell still using ok boomer in late 2020 you guys need to make up better insults.
Their statement was they were out back eating when the crowd burst through the gate . And was threatening to kill them burn their house down and kill their Dog . This was their first interview. So they stood and protected themselves and there property and their Dog the best they knew how to . And guess what . They Didn't get killed their house didn't get burned to the ground and their Dog still is alive. Imagine This is your Grandfather and your Grandmother . I am proud of them they did something that all these Democrat ran Cities couldn't they stood and protected Themselves . But the Democrat ran cities their Leader let them burn them down.
Every place you wrote "there", your context indicates that the correct spelling is "their". Toward the end, you wrote "the" where context indicates the correct word is "they". You took the time to write your viewpoint, and I took the time to read it. Unfortunately, the words used have diminished the point. Homophones matter.
@@JW...-oj5iw Well thank you for your English lesson . Le me see if I can write better in my first Language . Habe in lingua. Diaboli. Nemo sitiunt audire vocem tuam.
I am going to say I love what you and Chad brings to all of us that really need to know the things that the NEWS don't tell the truth about the things that are really happening in this GREAT COUNTRY and the NEWS really needs to tell us everything about the things that really is going on in this Country..... and I do mine everything......
@@drumyogi9281 yeah, I think so. St. Louis isn't going to let these losers get away with mobbing the city. Breaking the gate was violent, but nobody was willing to push far enough to warrant a deadly response, quite, even though it may have been legal.
Hey, I live on a cul de sac, and I dunno about being a commando, but I'm prepared for the hordes, should they ever appear. My personal space begins at my property line. I'm ex-military, so I've been trained on firearms that require the NFA stamp if I want to own one now. So I'll just have to muddle through with my AR and 12 ga. pump. Agree with you guys absolutely. Keep up the great work.
I'd say with all the Molotov cocktails people've been using to torch police cars and cities, the boundary is as far as one can reasonably throw a flaming bottle of gasoline at your home.
It's simple. An older couple, in a private gated community, is confronted by a crowd of "protesters". This couple had been watching the news for weeks, seeing how these crowds of "protesters" were acting. According to the couple, verbal threats against themselves/home/pets had been spoken by the "protesters". They saw that the gate to the street had been forcefully opened. The couple acted with the means and methods they had available. If a person or crowd breaks open my driveway gate and marches down my driveway with ill intent, I doubt that I would "show force" or issue a warning.
@deucedeuce22oz I was looking into owning a basic .22LR revolver for both fun and basic self-defense, but I couldn't afford it. Plus, I live in an area that is trouble-free, so it's not something I need to buy ASAP.
@deucedeuce22oz I was looking at revolvers in particular, for the fun factor. I don't think that a .22LR Glock would be particularly entertaining to shoot. The only ones who weren't cheap Spanish revolvers cost upwards of 500€, which is way off my budget (especially with the lockdown that ensued). Glocks aren't any cheaper, sadly.
The protesters are upset about dead people. You are upset about damaged property. There’s a LARGE difference there, sir. I’m not trying to argue with you, I’m just saying context matters
I'm right there with you both. Not just because i'm a big fan of your channel & love what you guys do, but because I agree with you. Folks don't have thick skin anymore. To that end, you can say what you want to me, but the moment things become physical, then that's it, you've just crossed the line & there's no turning back at that point. Folks like to spend their time glued to their phones instead of having actual conversations. As for the Missouri incident, I am also in agreement with what those 2 folks did. I could go for quite some time, but wonderful video & I love what you guys do. You just got yourself another fan, supporter, and subscriber here. Jeff from Killeen, TX
There is absolutely no evidence that has come to light that any death threats were made Before they grab their guns and went outside… and Karen started pointing her gun at individuals, and even walking towards them with her finger on the trigger. I think most of us would perceive that as a reasonable threat of serious bodily harm or death. I believe it’s totally OK to open carry to protect your property, but it’s not OK to point your guns at anyone unless there’s a reasonable threat...which did not exist here.
@@manderson7173 Not true, a mob which has been known to be violent broke through their gate. Thus effectively trespassing on a private street, which had signs saying it was private and for residents only. The breaking of a gate to gain entry to private property and a private street, is enough to constitute a reasonable threat.
@Jones It's not mine your your call to be upset about how others handle their firearms??? I strongly disagree. When people act like idiots with guns, people get hurt. If your neighbor walks out onto their front lawn, waves a gun around, and pulls the trigger, unintentionally, because he was ignoring fundamental firearm safety, you'd be 100% correct to be upset at your neighbor for his negligence. Especially if the round struck you or someone in your family, or even your property.
@@visionmovement This couple was notified that these very trespassers were responsible for deadly actions, or they had just seen stuff on TV, and lost their grip on reality?
One thing i love about where my parents live is there are signs half a mile before the gate saying "county maintenance ends here" Then private property signs at the gate. Best bug out spot if you want to live in a brick home.
That muzzle thing and finger on the trigger, they were fighting by God! Good for them!! They should be heroes not teased and made to be felt ashamed of.
Harold Smith Same here. I would have been on second floor with my registered full auto (yes, all 19 of them are NFA registered) and had all my mags ready to go. Let em fly.
The St. Louis City Attorney, Kim Gardner, has already said she is bringing charges against the couple! And, to my knowledge she has no intention of bringing any charges against the trespassers. @Iraqveteran8888
@steel marr no, you've got it all wrong. People are taking action. The people complaining will vote for the same spineless RINOs and expect that this time they'll do something about it. See, there's a plan.
The "NFA," needs to be repealed on the grounds of it being unconstitutional so that all of the other laws that have been enacted under the guise of "the government's right to regulate," is removed because it's presidence has been repealed on the grounds of it being unconstitutional! That way we can set the presidence for all unconstitutional past gun laws, and get all of them repealed, as did the abolishing of the prohibition of alcohol did.
There was never any message and I’m black. Most of us never followed them. That’s what the media wants folks to believe. It’s an extreme leftist group started by a white lesbian and her black lover. They care nothing of the black nuclear family or men. The phrase is accurate, the group is 🗑.
There's murder, and then there's mass murder. There's trespass, and then there's mass trespass. There is assault, and then there is mass assault. The defense must be appropriate to the threat. Automatics with high capacity mags are appropriate for mass threats.
I have zero issues with this couple. Being confronted with a mob of angry people that just broke down your gate had to be stressful. Lucky no one got shot. These couch commandos need to get a grip. As far as i'm concerned, mission accomplished!
The couple did not point or brandish. The TRESPASSERS came to their property and stood in front of their guns! You have every right to hold your gun on your property.
You can not point a gun at anyone if your life isn't in danger. That is considered assault in Missouri. The lady was definitely pointing her gun at people.
@@BigHomieTX682 And if you step in front of a bus is it the buses fault? I can hold my gun on my property and it is your common sense NOT to step in front of it!
@@melvinlambert4629 What type of dumb ass logic is that? Stepping front of a bus is nowhere near the same as having a gun pointed at you, moron. They are waving the guns around and you say it's their fault for stepping in front of the gun that waving around in front of them. You need to shut up because you are an idiot.
@@shakingmyhead7707 They were on private property. Yes. The neighborhood is private property. However, they were not on their property. They were on the way to the mayor's house. Had they not come out the house with their guns, none of this would have happened. Use common sense.
I'm so goddamn sick of hearing trigger discipline. She obviously didn't know what she was doing, and if I had 300 people on my front lawn threatening my life my finger would be on the trigger too.
First off I want to say thank you I do not watch the news but I do watch your guys's Channel the second thing I want to say i am proud to be an American. And I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all! Thank God for those who have died to keep me free and from harm. Amen
Thanks guys! Usually Gun Gripes aren't my thing but I feel like you both really let loose this video. Sounds like a lot of bottled up frustration, I can relate.