Gutted Plaid vs 1050HP Nitrous Charger and 1000HP Challenger! 1/4 mi! TWO Redeye Rematches! 4K UHD! 

Not that it matters much for the drag racing but have you seen the Plaid that got its software lock removed? They managed to get it going up to 217mph before they ran out of runway at the airport strip.

Does Dodge have a Governor set at 144?

@@BoBo-pe3kv not In the hellcats top speed is 208. Unless it's a widebody then top speed is 180

Uh yeah they can

Yeah it's crazy to think this is probably getting close to 400 drag strip runs on the Plaid without problems or maintenance issues. Previous non-Plaid one passed 1000 runs fine too, pretty solid reliability.

How many 10-second cars have made 1001 passes for under $40 in parts? (A key fob battery and a set of wiper blades!) We did it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q9opLnq54uY.html

@@mattbrew11 sorry but this just isn’t true. Low 9-second cars of all varieties are known for inconsistencies and part damage over their short life of usage. Comparing how many passes the Plaids have made, it’s no comparison.

Yeah, I hate to say it but these guys are just going to keep breaking stuff trying to keep up with the Plaid. Sure, there's always someone faster and you'll get beat from time to time... but do it 2 or 3 times and they're likely to need a trailer to get home after those wins!

The look on the red eye owners face after the race gets me every time

I find more hate for EV from ICE owners than the other way around.

So true. Lows 9's or faster in an ICE will need a team and deep pockets to keep it track worthy every week.

Actually eventually the Plaid would have to find a charger to go charge.

@@cruzancoconut tracks will start installing chargers at some point.

EV's have only 1/3 moving parts of ICE vehicles, electric motors last 10x that of ice and Tesla batteries holds 90% of the charge after 8years. 4680 will last at least 500k miles before replacement.

@@cruzancoconut eventually gas cars will run out of gas....lol your comment dont make any sense buddy

Finally got my car back yesturday!!! Took a while to get the parts in. Unfortunate event that night, but all part of racing.

These two modified Redeyes have actually run 5.90s (Challenger) and 6.00s (Charger), but the air must cooperate (low Density Altitude). And the track must be in great shape. And the fuel must be very high octane. And...

@@TeslaPlaidChannel blue audi r8

@@TeslaPlaidChannel and….. 😉 Looking forward to getting back out to BMP with the new surface!

@@TeslaPlaidChannel And you have direct drive with no losses. So for one of them (ICE) to develop the same power, they would need to dyno at the wheels the same number as your car. Conversely, the engine HP number would have to be, depending on the drivetrain losses, 1100-1200HP. At that point, many cars can be in the 9's, with prepped surface, without needing an extraordinary coincidence of perfect weather and track state. At that point, you would need to have a very good charge state too. Once both your car and the ICE car would dyno the same wheel number, of course you'd have the instant torque, but the ICE would have the torque multiplication provided by the gearbox, certainly more than your instant 905 ftlb, by probably one factor of magnitude. Tesla are visionaries and have revolutionized electric cars perception via performance over and again, mainly because the Automotive Engine Manufacturing had been without challenge performance-wise for many decades. Advances offered to customers in terms of engine power output were barely even seen or researched, the industry was telling customers "you have enough power output, we are not giving you more" for many decades. There is no good reason for which after so many years ICE would not be able to develop at this time 1000HP for a Honda Civic, except that there was no challenge on this level to the product. 4 cylinder turbocharged engines of small displacement were putting out in racing 1000 HP a long time ago. The technology transfer never took place. That NOBODY is making a consumer-grade offering vehicle in the $150,000 range with 1200HP on board and that people don't expect this out of the industry, is what can be surprising when you think about it. Now, with Tesla's challenge, the ICE industry is not even mobilizing to meet the challenge and better their product, but immediately folding and adopting electric technology. Except for ICE visionaries like Konigsegg, which work to redefine internal combustion engines.

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Maybe the most impressive part is how Tesla's stock parts take the beating you give it. An EV launching is a lot more graceful and not as hard on parts though, much finer control of the motors and no need to be at a high RPM already when you start sending power to the wheels.

👍Exactly! We are living in a rare moment of history.

@DannyG are you serious? I just went on a road trip with my kids in my plaid. Only cost me 20 bucks in charging and took 15 min per stop with 300+ mile range each stop. Enjoy your gas lmao

@DannyG I'm on my second tesla. I owned a model 3 performance for 3.5 years, I never had a single issue, never had to take it in for an oil change or spark plugs or air filter or fuel filter or tune-up or yada yada yada. Cost of ownership was the 8 dollars of electricity to fill it up. I'm on my second tesla, the plaid. Same deal, zero maintenance, just get in and enjoy 1100 hp. Thanks for trying. Plaid: 2, you: zero.

@DannyG I regularly accelerate on roads and get thumbs up and heads turned on the daily. Thanks for playing, plaid 3, you zero.

👍Not even sure that would help 🤪

That’s what I get for narrating when I should be racing 😳

Note to self. If I ever race Andrew, I’m requesting a Pro Tree.

And running 9's! What a great time for fast cars from the factory!

👍 More “narrating” than sleeping, but yeah 😃

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Yes !! You were Staged.... Have to pay Attention.... :)

The infamous Grand National going through transmissions like Joey Chestnut eating hot dogs.

To be quite fair, #1 the chargers been at this track for most of its miles, every since mid 500 miles. Now currently at 15k #2 Car spun and then regained traction causing the driveshaft and rear driver side knuckle to break. So in retrospect it’s quite reliable, wouldn’t have broke if it didn’t lose traction or lost traction completely😅

@@03creations34 It's not reliable by Tesla standards is the point..

Yep, was surprised we didn’t hit a 5.xx since we had 8 of 10 runs in the fives there at Showtime recently. But conditions vary, and we’ll likely hit some 5s this week. It seems that when cars get above 1000HP, there can be some real catastrophic failures. Like that GT-R recently: ~$50k! Ouch!

@@TeslaPlaidChannel A question for you. ANDREW... Ever think of open up a COMMENTS channel for Plaid and related articles and videos? I find many articles and videos that would be of interest and ses there really is no other channel that does this!

@@TeslaPlaidChannel $50k is almost half a Plaid! 😂

@@TurboV8boi Yep, that was just for his billet engine block 😳

These silver Tesla (OEM) caps came off of a *spare* set of Tesla 'Slipstream' wheels that we have for our other Tesla (2019 Model S Performance). Surely they have a part number and can be ordered somewhere?

I still enjoy hearing them, and it’s a great time for Motorsports to be able to run them against each other 👍

Actually, I have no idea who that is; never met him. Maybe just a Tesla fan? But when I saw the video and him jumping around, it was too good to ignore 👍

👍 Yet thankfully got the win this time. The Plaid's power bailed me out! 😃 Gotta stop narrating and start to focus on racing!

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Hey Andrew, I just watched the latest presentation from Brooks over at Drag Times. He mentioned about the closing of a dragstrip (Palm Springs?), AND the upgrades coming to this track!, guess the repaving you mentioned is part of that? He also said there will be new grand stands for the fans and more. Have you ever met Brooks? You two fellows seem to be just missing each other. Be cool to see you do some friendly racing sometime, your both record breakers! Although I know he and friends will 'rent' the track, and that could be expensive! Keep us informed, thanks (O:

Yep, sadly Palm Beach International Raceway (PBIR) closed a couple months ago. But there are two other dragstrips currently being built in Florida: "Lead Foot City" in Brooksville and another one in Callahan. And Bradenton Motorsports Park is re-opening next week already after their MAJOR upgrades including a newly laid concrete strip! Haven't met Brooks yet, but we are both guest speakers at a Tesla Conference in October, so we should surely meet by then-

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Thanks so much for the reply Andrew, and that is great news on the Tesla Conference! Looking forward to hearing more.

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Oooops, got my 'Palms' confused LOL

Dragstrips rarely allow cars to race bikes, especially on such nights. But we’ve raced two, starting with this modified Ninja: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tAJixB2MMOQ.html

And this modified GSX-R1000: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qSmLK4yh8MY.html

It turns out that those wind tunnels are very expensive to rent 💰 The white gutted Plaid we raced (Blake Fullers) had all of his panels taped up. See our two videos together from May 17 & 31

Seams...

Uncertain. The specs (especially the 600 mi range) have caused it to be “vapor” for 5 years now, and not sure when it’s ever going to become reality. A $50k deposit 5 years ago invested in Tesla stock instead would now buy several whole Roadsters. Hard to tie up money like that when there’s still not even a production location identified yet…

👍Yep, we had to downsize our house to afford it. And surprisingly these Redeyes are almost $100K, especially after modifications.

Like they say: “Don’t talk in your backswing”

This Plaid only has a few hundred passes, so it’s too early to say. But our 2019 Tesla S Performance ran mid 10s and did 1001 runs for ~$40 (a key fob battery and a set of wiper blades) 😃

The final 1/4 mile runs for 1001 time slips: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q9opLnq54uY.html

Probably $0.39 (3kWh of juice at $0.13/kWh), per run. Virtually none of the hundreds of points of wear or points of failure that an ICE has. No transmission, no differential, no serpentine/accessory belts or associated pumps and pulleys. No belt driven compressors or exhaust driven turbines. No alternator, no mechanical water pump, no power steering pump, no spark plugs, no coil packs, no ignition control module, no fuel injectors, no fuel pressure regulators, no fuel pumps, fuel filters or fuel injection control modules, no pistons, rings or wrist pins. No camshafts, cam followers, lifters, timing chains or timing gears. No rockers or push rods. No O2 or MAF sensors. No PCV valves. No head gaskets. None of the heat and vibration that destroys gaskets, vacuum hoses, water hoses, plastics and rubber products like pan gaskets, valve cover gaskets, front and rear oil seals. etc, etc, etc....

@@Tron-Jockey Exactly right 👍. And although our local electricity is right around 0.13/KWh, we rarely pay anything due to our solar panels 😃

I knew it was coming, that’s why I had the pink placard on the dash. But got distracted while narrating, and almost lost that race 😳

Same here 👍. Feels just like the 80's when ECUs took over engine management and then we had to wait for the aftermarket 'EPROM' companies to catch up...

You can't just slap a turbo on it. You are welcome to take a crack at it. Of course you are going to have to brush up on your space vector modulation control, field weakening, decrypting encrypted can bus signals, and figure out a way to download code from a protected soc and reverse engineer the hex. The you are going to have to figure out how to re-flash the chip using an encrypted key signing. I'll be anxiously awaiting your progress.

@@moki123g well," i did take a crack at it" . All of the fancy examples that you explain as insurmountable, are superfluous to a drag racer. At least with the electric motorcycle world of 5 years or so ago. My degree is mechanical engineering, but with some simple first semester physics, it wasn't hard to over-volt the motors and replace a few key electronics. Keep in mind, i ha e no idea what i am doing, only a decade or so of r c. Racing experience.. this is not voodoo !

What mods would you make to an inverter pair that are already running the latest silicon carbide MOSFETs (maxed out amperage) and a the Panasonic 1865T2 cell that is seeing near max c-rate in drag mode? It's already the fastest production car on earth and until somebody beats it I don't see a need to change anything. Otherwise you'll end up being pushed off the track like the Dodge in this video.

​@@TeslaPlaidChannel have you seen the recent video of a plaid s somehow unlocked through firmware that went 216mph? According to the video it turned 180mph in the 1/2 mile even having not launched as hard as he could of!

Petal???? :) It's not a Flower.... Pedal.....

After 3 seconds it should be going fast enough to not loose grip.

Over 30. (We’ve done 20, with plenty left to do a dozen more.) That’s far more than we’ve ever seen any ICE vehicle do. They usually do 4-5, maybe 7 at most (needing time to cool down between runs). This is mentioned in our next video, where we do 5 runs in 19 minutes, something the other 9-second cars would never dream of…

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Very interesting So that is 19 full power (consistent ET and traps) runs ?

Note: On any given night at the track, the lines in the staging lanes usually only allow 3-8 runs. Yet we’ve run six consecutive 9.30s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mJpPhL6SpUM.html We’ve also run three consecutive 9.20s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZeSPcq57LT4.html The time we did 20 consecutive runs was in our 2019 Model S Performance that runs mid-10s. The times drop off slightly, about a tenth of a second after each ~15% drop in battery charge. The Plaid uses a bit less than 3% per 1/4mile run, and we’ve run as low as 40% battery before, still running 9.61ET 👍

@@TeslaPlaidChannel Very good info I've been wondering this for months

I don’t recall offhand but I know that both of these Redeye owners go into their full build details here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GNFBfD02O04.html

EVs and ICEs are the same age lol

👍Reasonable question. (If it was me, the first thing I’d do is shutoff the ignition.) Perhaps he was afraid it wouldn’t start again? But in the end the failure was a broken driveshaft, so it wouldn’t really matter either way, as long as he didn’t rev it. This is exactly why carbon fiber driveshafts are becoming popular.

You mean like this one that wasn't an EDITED RUN so the Bugatti won? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BGMGUXPPErI.html

👍 Although I really enjoyed building engines back in the day (something more young people should do), life changes and backaches affect what’s more enjoyable. And there’s a deeper appreciation of the Plaid after going through so many struggles with broken parts 😃

The car doesn’t allow it. The traction control is very aggressive and checks for tire slip thousands of times per second. Power is immediately cut if any slippage. Hence no burnout. (Track mode allows for drifting but only when the front wheels are turned and above a certain speed.)

@DannyG you know that nothing near the level of modern EV motors and batteries were developed until recently. And you know that EV completely destroys ICE in straight line performance, in factory form. And you know that EV is the future, and that eventually, ICE vehicles will be niche only. At least, I hope you're not too stupid to realize all of these things. That's hoping for a lot from someone as irrational and limited as you, honestly. Maybe you really aren't that dumb, and you're just scared of the future where ICE is nearly irrelevant.

We used to do 8-9 in some months, but the editing time was just too much. We'll try to do at least one per week as long as the tracks are open (weather permitting)...

…and this AWD GT-R last month confirmed your points: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-udOYSnWeNcE.html (See the DRAG race after the roll race)

With drag radials and 800HP demon can launch faster than a AWD plaid, the plaid also builds it power slowly to not spin out its tires, so it takes it over 2 seconds to apply the full 1020HP, electric motors are limited by heat and RPMs just like gas engines, if you go full power and full speed to long its going to damage/destroy itself. If electric cars where cooled by liquid nitrogen the plaid could squeeze out 1500HP from its battery to its motors.

Just moved out of a blue state into Florida 👍

In my garage, I see electrical outlets, but I don't see a fuel pump 🤔

...a full tank (over 300 miles) is $10, and it's full every morning 👍

@@TeslaPlaidChannel, I was referring to topping off the charge at the track. It looks from the video like the track provides a fuel truck but not a charger station, since I recall you driving elsewhere to top off the charge one day, then driving back to the track to run. That really needs to change if the track wants to still be in business in another 5 years. BTW, I used to pit crew for a fueler. I have no use for IC vehicles. I bought my first electric vehicle in 1989. I drove one with lead-acid batteries to the top of Pikes Peak in 1991 before the road was fully paved and there was a race up the hill for EV's.

@@johnwest7993 👍 Agree. I’ve heard two local tracks in Central Florida talk about adding a Tesla charger (Orlando and the upcoming Lead Foot City track in Brooksville)

It’s showroom stock with 20 speakers and a full warranty? Please tell us about that…

“Don’t talk in your backswing” 😃 Still won the race. 👍 (And many viewers have asked for: “wait until the other car goes first and then barely pass at the finish line”. Ok, there it was!)

Yet the last thing we want to do is embarrass anyone. We are simply seeking good close races, like the ones we’ve had with these cars several times before 👍

Did he at least do 1 or 2 test runs. Why even show races like that.

@@dbrock1921 1:47 First NOS Test Pass for Redeye Charger 8:39 Second NOS Test Pass for Redeye Charger (Copied from the Index in the Description)

News flash: They both have automatic transmissions. They just point it straight and floor it. And in the Tesla? Point it straight and floor it 🤪

@@TeslaPlaidChannel I was referring to the Teslas launch control trickery, and the way the tri motors put the power to the wheels. Way more advanced to what these guys are running. My main point being they dont like it, and that's what comes across in the video to me. They dont seem to want to talk to you.

@X-Men Addict Actually, no one is happy when they didn’t win. But regular viewers will recognize both Mike and Doug from a dozen other precious races each. We’ve been hanging out talking cars and racing each other for years now, and they’ve always been very accommodating…

…and the recent races with GT-Rs show AWD vs AWD…

If true, Mike does a really good job of keeping it a secret...especially as he's invited us to events before, and to hang out in his trailer, etc...

Everyone prefers to win, but these guys are my track buddies 👍

@@TeslaPlaidChannel I hear ya I've had a lot of track friends through the years and when you're that close and losing it boils a little inside..lol it's the nature of the beast I've been on both sides lol

Nope. The ONLY GTR we ever DRAG RACED blew up his engine at the starting line 😕 That means I won. So the answer to your question is a resounding “no” 🤣

For your convenience, you can watch that “built GTR” lose here in the ONLY *drag* race we’ve ever had with our Plaid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-udOYSnWeNcE.html

We notice that GTR’s don’t seem to be able to LAUNCH? So ALL of our other races vs the Plaid have been ROLL races. What’s up with that? 🤔 Please explain why the only actual DRAG RACE resulted in the GTR’s engine blown and a $50k repair bill?

Built gtr's can't drag race. They all bog, spin or break. They are all roll racing queens.......🤭🤸

@@larryc1616 only the ones that r converted to rwd and not setup properly, and those are the ones u face…. Crippled…. Gtr has run 6s loozer and has the worldwide 60-130 time of 1.4s, what your tesla in the 9s GTFOH

Watch dozens of Tesla losses in one video alone; How wrong can you get? (Feeling it yet?) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qD3Kzg3AL3A.html

Only if you race them. Some of those Dodge minivans have been grocery getters for decades and still going.

@@randydicotti3975 after going through three or four automatic Transmissions. Lol

🤔So then why has DODGE already announced that the new Hellcats will be EVs instead? And Corvettes will be EVs too…

@@zooker7507 Just released was the ZR-1, which is rumored to be the last 100% V8 design. Next up is a hybrid V8 with electric motors in the front. Then the “e-Ray” which is 100% electric will come ‘soon’. Will GM ever go back? 🤔 Dodge says they won’t.

@@zooker7507 I believe the battery pack weighs 1200 lbs, taking up the entire floor...

At the Dragstrip, fast wins

Dodge already announced the next Chargers and Challengers are EVs in less than 2 years. Time to pay attention…

And even after all the MANY modifications to these Dodges, the *stock* Tesla sill won. Many Dodge fanboys will say “EVs suck” right until Dodge releases their EVs, then they will suddenly change their tune. Not because they will be better, but just because a they are Dodges 😃

@@TeslaPlaidChannel no, I’m not talking about dodge fan boys I’m talking about ev people thinking gas enthusiasts care about electric cars being faster. Eventually you’ll have electric corvette zr1s and mustang gt500s that will destroy a plaid. And you’ll still have people who will prefer an ice vehicle . It’s just preference. I’m telling you most people don’t care, but for some reason ev fAn boys think it’s a competition. It’s electric power, no shifting, no lag compared to turbo, supercharged or even na ice cars. Even the best autos are still shifting much less manual transmissions.