Hades II - The Titan of Time 

What’s Greek mythology fiction without a bit of familicde.

Ain't Chronos and Kronos two different titans ?

@@kaelbeuk1 in some myths they’re not the same but in most of the myths they’re the same being

@@Than_a_Toast Figures.

@@Than_a_Toast so what you’re saying is they can be perceived as different because of timey wimey shenanigans? 🧐

The8BitDrummer loved your comment btw

Oooh I'm timing!

and now melinoe is an old woman

You jest yet it's 90% of Chrono's dialoge

​@@myhairhasamindofitsownNightmarecels seething over Timepilled Timemaxxers

yeah really, nobody badmouths my boy and lives! 😤😤😤

Wait that's the exact dialogue I had in my first win, too 😂 We fight to uphold our brother's honor!

Same here lol, I was pissed and just massacred him

@@carmacksanderson3937 Same lol. No Old-Grandpa can imprison OUR boy!

Imagine if in the final version, we can eventually unlock Zag and play through the game with him and his equipment.

It really takes you out of the loop, eh?

Hi Jerod!! Can't wait to see you drum over this on stream!

I cant wait either, I think it shifts between 4/4 and 6/8?

@@notyourbuisness4052 Those two are the main ones but i think some parts are also in 3/4

@@notyourbuisness4052 the clocks at the beginning (00:00) are in 3/4, the motif that gets repeated a bunch of times throughout the song, first heard right after the clocks (00:07) has two measures of 3/4, then two measures of 4/4, then a measure of 2/4. we get a short pre-verse (00:13) in 4/4 before the verse (00:17) goes into 7/4 for all of it's duration. the motif is heard again, and we get a pre-chorus in 3/4 (0:47), and then we go into the chorus, which is in 4/4 (0:54)

Isn't he a Titan, not a God?

WHAT

"Hang on, I'ma just pause and take a sip of water real qui-" *"No."* "Wha- WOAHWOAHWOAHOKAYTHENICANDOITLATER!"

Ahh but you fail to realise Chronos *presses windows button* That I’m simply of a higher reality than you

The Price Of Silence

Not toilet, but my face.

@@user-ft5vi4qe3vWhat

well granddaughter says "yes, I can pause and pee, fuck you"

my friend said that Cronos looks a bit like Elon Musk when you leave Erebus

“Hourglass Figure” I’m cackling 💀

his hourglass figure is actually how I figured out he was Chronos the first time you meet him after beating Hecate.

I also like his more shrivelled look since he was basicaly a dismembered corpse before ressurrecting himself. Plus the obsidian skin with golden cracks like a Kintsugi was *chefs kiss*

@@GameJoltTobi”bro has a snatched waist.. this is chronos.”

That scythe is why they had to send a girl to kill him

Gaia if you go by the mythology

Wish it looked more like a sickle (the curved blade from lim and Oros). That’s chronos’ signature weapon

@@FunnyshovelmanHis signature weapon is actually a scythe

@@Sir_Crow basically every google search I see says it’s a sickle, that curved blade

So a Tory.

Why'd you feel the need to put white in there, racist

He's literally black.

That or he might reset your skill tree or just hide behind goons so he can slowly regain health.

@@Frostydog-99 I think he might fuck up your controls or smth like that

@@elver2218 maybe but it just dawned on me that maybe after you die to Kronos you play thru a memory (similar to botw) of how Kronos imprisoned and took over the house of hades

Chronos has the capability to unpause the Game if You pause during the boss fight

Maybe he can even stop time midfight 👀

what leitmo- OIOOOOHHHHHHHHH

"You have your father's Leitmotif or rather... my leitmotif" - Kronos probably

You know, it kinda fit him

It's pretty impressive how many Time puns are in this game and how well they work

@@phaerlax you could say they work most of the *time*

Gotta be quick to pull one over on Grandfather Time.

on the contrary, I think the second phase makes sense for the song to be much slower in pace when you have to consider that he is pulling out all these telegraphed yet big damaging moves, you have to be more careful and less frantic

I guess like son, like father 😂

@@MV96_ frfr

​@@MV96_Melinoë is a daughter

​@@lock_checker4342 they meant Chronos is just like Hades (2 health bars)

@joaoluizkfsantos8392 ah I gotcha now LUL

It's the amen break

@@jacobsiron6929 AND the amen break!!

PREPARE THYSELF

Duking it out becomes a very viable solution to arguments when you are immortal and nothing can harm you permanently.

For context, it’s following the biggest fear of fathers in Ancient Greece, which is being overthrown by your child. In Greece, you were bound to your parents (mostly your father cuz patriarchy) and you answered to them till they died. So killing them was practically one of the worst crimes you could commit, and fathers were deathly worried about it happening to them, hence why we see this reflected in the mythology. Chronos straight up ate his kids because he was paranoid they’d overthrow him.

​@@blipwibble6977 to add to this, not only does this happen very often in mythology (character being told "your child will be your downfall"), but the very steps that character takes to prevent it just so happen to be the same steps that lead to the inevitability of that downfall. See the story of Oedipus: his parents hear the prophecy that he would slay his father and take his mother as his queen, so they leave him stranded on a mountain as a baby and break his foot, other people adopt him, he hears this prophecy, leaves his (unknowingly) foster parents, and goes on to fulfill the prophecy, all the while not knowing that the man he killed at the crossroads was his father, and the queen he took was his mother.

i mean, both sets of gods (titans and olympians) resulted from their respective fathers (uranus and chronos) being control freaks who wanted to maintain their own power and ending up creating the circumstances of their own destruction in trying to stop their kids from surpassing them. so, yeah, kinda

I kinda like more the first phase if anything I'd reverse the themes of each phase

God. That second phase feels soo good. Especially with Chronos ''clock'' attack sound.

@@parasitone0814 I think its meant to be a reverse in how things go honestly, Hades' (the character) fight was meant to get more frantic and intense as it goes on, pumping you up with pressure that could make you create multiple tiny mistakes that can cascade into a failure. While Chronos' fight is meant to be more calculated and anxiety-inducing, as a single hit could wipe your run, despite all your efforts to overpower and clear through everything on your way to him

And that then spilled into Oceanus for its themes as well.

Took his own voice from 2017, he sounds exactly like Pyre's narrator (which fits, considering Pyre's narrator was also a leading figure of it's tyrannic government)

I really felt the clock tickling me with this one

The intense fight also helps set that feeling.

Supergiant is amazing at motifs, from audio to visual to narrative. Chronos' sigil being everywhere is another neat thing. And all the Time puns being delivered very seriously

where is his motif?

@@banksnakes first time right around 0:10, it's the tune that plays when you lose every time

I personally love how the repeating motif at 0:17 (at least to me, intentionally or not) feels *almost* like a reversed version of the Hades/Death theme from the first game. It's not exact for sure, but I do think the idea of the music feeling like it's rewinding is intentional because of the contour of the notes going upwards when the Hades motif was so notable for going downwards

@@phaerlaxit’s also very similar to the thing some clocks chime at the hour mark

It took me way too long to notice but I love that the kintsugi veins are likely from when he was last cut to pieces by the Olympians; genuinely an amazing way to incorporate that piece of mythology into his design.

@@voidspace662 Its also why he seems to be so obsessed with gold having literal bags shoot coins minted with his symbol at you, its probably what keeps him together and is a material that is unable to corroded by time

ULTRAKILL collab when

Chronos when Melinoë starts throwing obols into the air:​@@jacobkern2060

I was looking for a comment about this lol its definitely n trophy lol

I literally screamed this the second time i got this encounter

"You're in MY house, you little frog! GIVE ME THE FATES!"

Dude, I was doing the same. This is such an awesome fight theme

I am cackling like a madman reading this 🤣🤣🤣

I got to Second phase first time and then got him quarter hp I had a pretty good set up but he did 999 damage to me on one attack I was guttered lol

@@notbeersies8204 yeah that attack caught me off guard the first time too

Makes sense. If there were vocals, they'd probably rapped rather than sung.

​​@@jacobkern2060 if JT teach me something,it that you can combine male rap and female singing.

The longer the Titan of Time is left on the Underworld, the stronger he will become.

real

I thought the exact same, sounds exactly like a mish-mash of Hades & Crash Bandicoot

THANK GOD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE TO THINK THAT Both are time themed, so it makes sense they'd pull similar inspirations

absolute masterpiece -- they did it again, who would've thought

It reminds me of how the Memory tracks and Castle Bleck use ticking clock sounds, as well as the latter’s constantly changing time signature.

I think its the synth with a sort of "wah pedal" effect on it at 0:46. IIRC that game uses similar effects a decent amount.

@@jabronijackpot I had to take a moment to giggle a lot over the term “wah pedal”.

@@corrinflakes9659 I didn't know how else to describe it ok 😭

Never before have I heard a Take this bad. Kiddo, The game îs not a masterpiece, this word has lost its meaning. The game is very repetitive and bland. Very few enemies. Bland bossess, The boos are very bad atm since everyone just goes for aphrodite attack or special and zeus cast. And The game is just "beat the final boss over and over again to unlock 3 more lines of dialogue". How îs this a masterpiece. What a bad take.

Also a lietmotif îs The easiest thing to do. Make a jibgkensound, then repeat it. Wow what a masterpiece

@@mihaimercenarul7467 tell that to the rest of the internet bozo

@@haydenwithers5528 bozo? What? How old are you, child? Bozo, really? Next time, try to come with an argument other than "omg omg omg a similar song omg omg such a masterpiece, omg".

@@mihaimercenarul7467 knew I recognized you, what a sad existance you must have if you spend so much time replying to people with what is essentially "Um AcKcHyUaLly YoU'rE wRoNg, GaMe BaD. imagine getting a game where the *main point is to die, get stronger, and go again*, and complaining about repetition. Maybe use different weapons? Aspects?Boons? Hammer upgrades? Literally all of these change how you have to play. How about the fact theres 2 paths to go with COMPLETELY different areas, enemies and bosses. Also in what universe are the boons bad? Ever tried hera? Apollo? Hephaestus? Litterally every God has good boons. The fact you are the *only* person I have seen be negative about this game in any way almost makes me think you're not a real person

You're not the only one :D

It's the amen breaks

Oh no, instead of EM4 we're gonna get Chronos Prime

@@wrydfell3932 EM4 is Chronos Prime

Might be not the last version as this is still not 1.0, but also the sound is different for almost all the tracks which are near Chronos' boss fight, they almost sound like "old" game music, might be connected to this I honestly don't know :)

As a fellow pokemon fan, I'm curious which ones come to mind for you cos I can't think of a theme it resembles, but that's probs cos I'm stoopid😶

​@@kag2576 Guiltily, too many come to mind 😅 maybe the general scheme of legendary themes really just got me reminded of em. But the ones that come to mind off the top of my head are: Dialga/Palkia, Giratina, Xerneas/Yveltal, Solgaleo/Lunala, DM/DW Necrozma-- just the general vibes of those ones. Futhermore, I can also say it reminds me of some of the more recent rival themes and evil team themes (i.e., Lysandre and maybe Gladion?) But deffo the Legendary themes especially the Gen 4 ones, I think. But this is mostly only on the first phase hahahah