RonnyChem It's implied that the alien 'locusts' kill lesser species on the brink of space travel so they can't compete with them in the future. It's honestly a smart, if insanely evil, societal choice.
I know for a fact I saw Independence Day Resurgence in the theaters, and at the time I thought it was bland and forgettable. Rewatching this review in 2021 I can honestly say I've actually forgotten everything about it. They discuss things that happen in the movie, and I have no idea what they are referencing. It's like I never saw it- and I remember movies I watched 30 years ago.
I’m kinda in the same boat as you. I think the only thing I vividly remember is the nice alien’s ship getting blown up and the nice aliens saying it was easy to learn our “primitive language”.
if I remember right, it's from a couple years ago. he made it because he said he hadn't been paid for the first independence day movie and he making it known by "fucking" the people who owed him.
I can't believe Mike didn't notice. The compositing in this is shockingly bad. If someone told me it was shot on a budget of $60 or $70 million, I would believe them because it feels like a lower budget effort trying to ape a $200 million blockbuster.
"We had 20 years to prepare. So did they." It took the aliens 20 years to download and install McAfee Antivirus software? They must have an ISP that sucks even worse than Time Warner.
In their defense, the aliens are a drone species. They would never have had to have firewalls or antivirus software because nobody would ever have created those in the first place. They all just do what they are told, they aren't sitting around hacking peoples computers.
They should have just come and stolen McAfee himself. He would have fit right in with them and they might have kept him alive longer foe us to enjoy his wacky nature longer
Much like with Gillian and the "What's your number?" debacle, it's ok to like garbage. Sometimes something just appeals to you and that's that. You know it's bad and you shouldn't like it, and Mike stuck to his guns on this one instead of passing it off like he hated it.
If molten lava powered their ships, why are they even bothering with the people that beat them the first time and gotten it from one of the other 100 trillion to the tenth power uninhabited planets in the galaxy?
Mike "Surprise, I'm a jew!" Stocklazki is not my hero, don't be ridiculous. And isn't it possible.... just A LITTLE possible... that all the new sets, props and cameras are a result of Didney funding the show in exchange for favorable reviews of their products? Like that soulless husk of a movie "Star Wars: WE WUZ DIVERSE N SHIEET"? Sure, it's possible he's being honest. But I'm not gonna be in denial about people selling the fuck out when they suddenly start recommending objectively bad movies.
well it kind of is. we've made no real progress with clean energy. instead we've made things worse with fracking. but sjws are too busy arguing about imaginary problems like "rape culture".
CheetosForBreakfast On the bright side, WARCRAFT is now the first video game movie to make at least $400 million worldwide (would have been higher if they marketed the movie better and didn't cut out 40 minutes out of the movie though)
Mike and Jay are both really big on structure. Essentially they view film something like architecture, scenes in a movie are building blocks used to establish characterization, arcs, and plot. They tend to dislike movies that lack essential structural components, or have unnecessary components added in. A movie also has a purpose, (to use our structure metaphor, like building a mall vs. a house), so how a movie is built, and what materials are appropriate to use depends a lot on the purpose. In addition I think, Mike in particular tends to favor good writing and tone, while Jay tends to appreciate actor's performances and atmosphere more. They can both be easily won over by camp and schlock but it's pretty rare that they will call it a good movie, they will still say its bad. If we apply all this knowledge to the question of why Mike liked this movie. He saw it as a dumb summer blockbuster, meaning we're not looking for realism or complexity in characters or plot. The main job of an action movie for someone like Mike is to not bore him. Make the characters good enough to root for, put them in a difficult situation, pump the gas a little (but not so much that people can't figure out what's going on) and Mike is basically happy with this type of movie. While Jay also appreciates not being bored by (parts of) this movie, I think the lazy CGI effects, and lack of strong performances by the actors (which often has a lot to do with directing too) failed to suspend his disbelief and leave him drooling in dumb action bliss like Mike.
This show is a constant balancing act between objective criticism and acknowledged subjective opinion based on factors outside of the movie, so learn how to subconsciously analyze language and enjoy the ride!
The line deliveries in Resurgence were so lifeless. Yeah the first one was dumb but at least Pullman, Hirsch, and Goldblum gave it the ol' college try with the "we will not go quietly into the night!" speech, "YOU KNEW THEN! AND YOU DID NOTHING!", and "Time's up!" And yeah Will Smith was missing from Resurgence but every actor who returned seems like the last 20 years have really taken their toll on how much they care. And I suppose who can blame them?
To save our mother Earth from any alien attack From vicious giant insects that have once again come back We'll unleash all our forces We won't cut them any slack! The EDF deploys
Our soldiers are prepared for any alien threats The navy launches ships, the air force send their jets And nothing can withstand our fixed bayonets The EDF deploys!
Our forces have now dwindled and we pull back to regroup The enemy has multiplied and formed a massive group We better beat these bugs before we're all turned to soup The EDF deploys!
When I was in fifth grade I wrote an ID sequel about the aliens that were left behind becoming like terrorists. They should have made that into a multimillion dollar film.
Dylan Murphy I don't quite get what you're implying, i know he does it, i was referring to the start where he was listing off bastardizations of the movie title, i was just saying that not saying Regurgitation was a missed opportunity. You're not a very smart person, are you?
markiangooley And there is this thing called nuclear fusion. It builds up and breaks down molecules creating different elements. We are working on building something similar to that right now so if an advance species can't figure that out then they aren't an advance species.
There's also an enourmous amount of uranium and gold, those elements are not easy to get in the plain universe and Earth's core has them already melted for whoever wants to suck them.
Nick Rose The artificial intelligence ball mentioned they destroyed countless civilizations, so they destroy countless planets, they just can't get enough of what they are looking for but whatever it is... apparently they get it in planets that sustain intelligent species, planets like Earth and Earth is just one more of their sources but the humans probed to be something to be careful about, like if we humans discover a chicken that knows how to use guns for killing humans, that would be threatful.
Not to mention the vast majority of asteroids and big ass chunks of rock in space are made up of those elements and a lot more exotic elements as well. I guess it could be argued that at the point a civilization have world ships, planet cracking for resources isn't that far fetched.
I can't be the only one who comes here every day just to watch the "WHY DID I BUY THIS BOAT?" part over and over because it brings joy into my otherwise meaningless life, can I?
LOL REALLY!?!? You think Matrix Reloaded is as bad as THOSE movies!?! 🤦🏾♂️ For the life of me I will never understand why the Matrix sequels are so reviled. It’s actually really unfair cause they’re one of the few blockbuster franchises that at least tries to be smart. But no, I guess everyone’s satisfied with shit like TFA. And people wonder why movies are in such a shitty place right now
I walked out of lone ranger. And avengers. But avengers was bc as soon as they did the assemble circle backs to each other trailer scene and they were like wahoooo then two more monster robot alien catepillars came out the hole and boom.... The screen went off. And my broke ass said boom got the whole movie theyre obviously gonna start winning now and can get my money back lets go.
Ah, Independence Day. The 1962 cult classic football docudrama where Harrison Ford's downtrodden Mrs. Robinson says to Gandalf the Green: "I have come to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." Truly a wonderful directorial debut from Steven Cubic.
They had twenty years to unravel the mystery of alien shielding and were still stymied by alien shielding. I saw it last night and wished I was watching Star Wars Phantom Menace.
It's a video of Randy Quaid ranting about Rupert Murdoch, then making his wife wear a picture of Rupert Murdoch on her face while he pounds her from behind.
Aliens really need that solar technology. Sucking magma is so inefficient way to extract energy when there's a nuclear energy freely floating in the space.
I trusted his taste just fine up until he praised Jurassic World, at which point I became skeptical that he sold out. A dozen reviews later, I only trust Jay now, which sucks, because I'm a Sci-Fi guy and he's not.
Mike's taste in film never ceases to puzzle me. Like, I can't quite tell where shlock begins and ends for him and what is it that makes him love some kinds of shlock movies but not others.
I suppose if I was continually forced to dig through the freshest pile squeezed out of Hollywood's arse for movies to review then I too would eventually find things in there to like. Stockholm syndrome and all, you know.
I've come back to recant my position. I watched some of this movie last night--I was scrubbing through it to see what looked interesting. What I saw was so dumb that it was enjoyable. Can't say enough how brilliantly dumb it was to just make the queen basically a giant regular alien, so that the end of the film is just a chase between Cthulhu and a yellow school bus. Of course, like I said, I skipped the boring dialogue scenes, so take this with a grain of salt. It comes off like self-parody. Whether that's what Emmerich was going for or not is another story. Maybe this is his Bride of Frankenstein. The latent homosexuality is definitely there.
Or the girl holding up the "welcome to Earth" sign before getting blasted, or Harvey Fierstein saying "aliens are invading, I've gotta call my mother" or Brent Spiner in Area 51, so much schlock.
That’s crowd pleasing shlock. Mike hates stuff that is simply put into a movie to make the audience clap. He seems to prefer shlock that is completely off the rails.
4:40 I always thought that was the smartest way to handle copyright issues. Image if everyone just put a big sign up like that. It becomes a greater negative for the studio to be striking everything.
Wow, I'm so surprised Mike and Jay didn't trash it completely. I really felt that Resurgence had no charisma at ALL. Say what you want about ID4, but the characters certainly had charisma and clear motivations. In this one nobody (not even The Goldblum in my opinion) had any charm or visible character motivations. Charlotte Gainsbourg's (which I'm sad Mike and Jay didn't mention) character is literally directly saying what other characters' motivatons are because they didn't know how to portray them properly. All characters are incredibly BLAND. Oh, and the only character who has an arc is ironically the accountant-turned-rifleman, who is one of the WRITERS... Really bad film - sad to not agree with Mike and Jay.
He still didn't pick it apart as much as I feel it deserves. I tend to agree more with Jay over Mike, but he sadly has a tendency soften his opinions when they aren't in agreement with Mike. In the end he went with "meh" instead of criticizing it as much as he started out insinuating. No more than that. :)
Agreed I definetly thought they were going to tear it a new asshole lol. Imo it was a 2hr cringefest with literally no redeeming qualities. They acting was weird and stilted the "epic" moments (especially the speeches) were all flaccid and even the cgi looked awful. How is that shit even possible with a summer blockbuster in 2016!? Wish I watched Finding Dory instead. Seriously xD
Starwhackers. He believed he was being hunted down by celebrity killers. It was like an illuminati thing. Not sure if he's still crazy. That was from a few years ago.
The premise reminds me of XCOM 2. XCOM: Enemy Unknown was a game about fighting extraterrestrial invaders. XCOM 2 is based on the premise that the player failed in the first game and the aliens won (as opposed to the "victory" end game). XCOM 2 then has the player fighting a guerrilla war against the new alien overlords 20 years after they took over.
I was looking for this comment and I'm glad I finally stumbled across it after I gave up on looking for it. I'm even happier to see it because I did a playthrough of the first one but my team fell apart right before the end. I didn't want to play 2 without beating EU, but I also wasn't really feeling like restarting EU; now it seems fitting to just move on to 2, though.
But this is the total opposite of Xcom 2. In ID4: Ressurgence the humans WON and used the alien technology to rapidly advance their own technology. If anything ID4:R is the version where you win Xcom 1 and then the aliens come back to find out what happened to the first invasion force.
+ Bing Bong "I can't believe you fools buy the official narrative. Don't you know that The Beatles was actually a collective of nineteen people and six chimpanzees in suits." By the way, there are actually people who think that The Beatles is a collective of dozens of imposters. It is as stupid as it sounds.
+Bing Bong OK, even if the deniers are wrong, why even say that then, as if to lump anyone who questions authority is an idiot? You're acting...kind of suspicious...
Every scene was either totally CG, or 5 actors in front of a green screen on a sound stage, with everything matted in after the fact. I bet even some of the tiny indoor sets were green screen.
Who cares about medical school costs? They are paid for with loans that a medical doctor can fully repay from just two years of working. Specialists can repay those loans in a single year.
I will say I appreciated how Mike was self aware of his own needing to check with a doctor about this movie. He argues his points well. I don't agree with most of them. But the fact that he was really aware that he should have hated this film and he didn't kinda resonated with me.
Man, you guys are awesome. I grew up in Wisconsin and holy hell, you guys should be our state senators. This was a hilarious episode. I mean, you guys broke new ground, years ago, with the prequel reviews and to this day you still have a unique voice. I'm so glad that you guys give me something to look forward to...whether it's Jack and RIch or you and Rob. And PLEASE, PLEASE, let me die at 90 years old having just watched another, new Best of the Worst. You guys are awesome.
If there’s any time a movie doesn’t need character motives it’s alien invasion movies. Who knows why aliens do what they do? That’s part of why it’s a disturbing scenario
What pissed me off about this movie was the fact that the queen has a personal sheild that survived an advanced high powered nuclear bomb literally going off in her face, then all it takes is the fire from three jet-fighters to destroy her shield generator.
So FOX DOESN'T want people posting their promotional material in every single place they can, thus fulfilling the WHOLE POINT OF CREATING PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL? Jesus christ
I had the pleasure of making a white fish bagel sandwich for Brent Spiner about 20 years ago, on Beverly Boulevard, around the corner from Canter's deli. He didn't fart once. He did act a little like Data.
You know it always warms my heart to see that nice people are willing to help get the mentally challenged work.....and I'm not talking about the movie.
