Hall of Fame or Hall of Shame? Roger Clemens' Controversial Impact on Baseball

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Hall of Fame or Hall of Shame? Roger Clemens' Controversial Impact on Baseball
Any true baseball fan would remember how the talented Roger Clemens totally embodied his nickname! He dominated baseball for years, intimidating hitters with his blazing fastball and accumulating amazing numbers wherever he went. But then this rocket ship came back down to earth. He found himself ensnared in the key controversy of his era in Major League Baseball: PED use.
But was this true? Was this dominant athlete a legend for the ages or did he cheat his way through years of baseball brilliance?
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@iskander0725 4 месяца назад

Semi-controversial take, it doesn't matter at this point. Bud Selig is enshrined in the HoF. Nobody, I mean nobody, benefitted more from the Rocket being fueled by a little more than Rocket Fuel. He benefitted the most from all those guys. The media that voted him into the HoF needs to vote all those legends into the Hall, as well. There is no Bud Selig "saving" baseball, the media said that a lot in my day, there is no more baseball on the same level, I'd bet, period today. Those juicers juiced baseball to prominence again. It doesn't matter what Clemens or any of them did. They saved baseball.

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

This is a great point. Thank you for the comment

@marcyfan-tz4wj 4 месяца назад

no one has to like clemons personally to realize that he was a very dominant pitcher for 23 seasons. the idea of enshrining the guy who looked the other way regarding steroid use (bud selig) in MLB HOF and leaving clemons out is ridiculous.

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

@@marcyfan-tz4wj so true. Thank you for sharing!

@stingrey1571 4 месяца назад

by biggest issue with the steroid era has been the media role in it. who voted rocket to 7 cy youngs? the very same people who are now denying him into the HOF.

@joshuakramer9833 4 месяца назад

Let's not forget that Big Papi himself tested positive for steroids. But because he's likable, he gets into the HoF

@zackinwald9581 4 месяца назад

The fact that the Hall of Fame has kept him out as a disgrace. Roger Clemmons was the greatest of his era and never failed a drug test 💯

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

They should either put all the guys suspected of PED use in or leave them out. Currently Jeff Bagwell, Ivan Rodriguez and David Ortiz are in but Bonds, Clemens and A Rod are out. I suspect it has more to do with their personalities than anything else.

@TiagoGomez-hb9te 28 дней назад

@@BBUYTTV Same thoughts...

@davemccall1134 4 месяца назад

In my opinion the HOF is a museum that acknowledges only the best who played in MLB. Or those who made a significant historical impact on the game. It is not a shrine to honor the most honorable, ethical or those who had a strong moral compass. If that was true, half of the HOF would be empty. We'll never fully know who used a PED or how many players used PED'S

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

I agree with your point. It isn't possible to know who was using and who wasn't. If a player made a meaningful impact on the game, they should be in. Thank you for your comment.

@jonnyt16 4 месяца назад

Good video. Roger Clemens was one of few names that really stood out to me during my childhood AND adulthood. I forgot he played for the Blue Jays. One thing, I would have liked to have seen him challenge Barry Bonds more - I believe he walked him 6 out of the 8 times they faced. The Rocket truly had an incredible career.

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

The way their careers played out was very similar with eye popping numbers and the swirl of controversy over PED use. Thank you for the comment!

@jonnyt16 4 месяца назад

@@BBUYTTV Totally agree. They were in the big leagues together for almost exactly the same years. Both forever legends but both forever tainted as well. I wish they faced each other more than just 8 times!

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

@@jonnyt16 that would have been fun to watch!

@dscott132113 3 дня назад

This guy was my idol growing up. I read the articles about his workouts and did them with my father in high school. He should be in the hall of fame. There should be no question about it. It’s really sad that he now has to pretend he doesn’t care because we all know he does. I hope before he dies he is put in.

@BBUYTTV 3 дня назад

I think he should be in as well

@johncassani6780 4 месяца назад

As a Sox fan since 1986, I loved Clemens as a kid. But, he was mostly bad for his last 4 seasons with the Sox. He showed some glimmers of hope toward the end of 96, especially in his second 20K game, which was his final win in a Sox uniform. It was only slightly controversial that the Sox didn’t resign him. The fact that he went on to dominate with Toronto made is hate him. Looking back, the Red Sox were mismanaged from the late 80s on. They didn’t ever adequately replace Jim Rice or Dwight Evans, nor Wade Boggs, end never having a reliable number one catcher until getting Varitek.

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

Good points. It was a rough almost two decades between the 86 series loss and the first World Series title in 2004. Thank you for the comment!

@k.s.nichols4060 2 месяца назад

So weird. What could have happened in Toronto that made Clemens dominant again?

@BBUYTTV 2 месяца назад

@@k.s.nichols4060 it’s a mystery ;)

@derekvietro784 4 месяца назад

Jose canseco is awesome the only honest player out there!!!!

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

He definitely had the guts to say what was really going on. Thank you for the comment.

@georgesouthwick7000 4 месяца назад

The really sad thing about these steroid users is most of them would have made it into the Hall of Fame without using steroids.

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

I agree. They didn’t need to use and were already superstars on the path to the hall of fame

@kevintate768 3 месяца назад

I tore my labrum and had a bicep tenodesis done in September and even today I am still recovering from that surgery. He should be in both halls!

@BBUYTTV 3 месяца назад

Oh boy that is a rough injury. I hope you heal up quick. I agree he should be in the hall. Thank you for the comment.

@spittindatruthaboutrecords9421 4 дня назад

This isnt a popularity contest its the hall of fame , And the fact that the HR KIng and a 7 time CY Young award winner isnt in is crazy!!!!!

@BBUYTTV 4 дня назад

It’s definitely strange. You can add the all time hits leader as well

@caddieguy6510 2 месяца назад

Canseco said that he didnt believe Clemens took steroids and on top of that he never failed a drug test. Could have easily been a sting operation against him but it doesnt matter now, all in the past

@BBUYTTV 2 месяца назад

I would say Canseco isn't exactly the most reliable witness. A lot of smoke around Clemens though. Thank you for the comment.

@BoomBoom77156 2 месяца назад

@@BBUYTTVwhen it came to steroids and who he knew who took it , Canseco was pretty reliable on that front

@BBUYTTV 2 месяца назад

@@BoomBoom77156 I agree but who knows? He lied about many other things.

@theman1412 4 месяца назад

Nice recap

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!

@dukedematteo1995 Месяц назад

Roger Clemens is the best pitcher of the live ball era. Stat wise, no one else is really that close. He has 30 more WAR than Maddux or Johnson. And 20 more than Seaver. The most Cy Youngs (7). And really should be about 10 by today's standards. A 144 ERA+ over 5000 innings. And the highest WAR7 of the liveball era. He has 100 WAR between the age of 21 and 35, in 3200 innings. By far the quickest to that mark. As for the inevitable steroid complaints....I don't think many people actually read the document that tied Clemens to PEDs; the Mitchell Report. In it, his former trainer claims Roger used PEDs in the second halves of 1999, 2000, and 2001. That's it. He makes no mention of any steroid use during his last 2 years in NY or the next 3 seasons in Houston, where he won a Cy Young and an ERA title. Which makes perfect sense, Clemens, like many players back then saw the writing on the wall, and knew the PED party was over with the 2003 survey testing, and acted accordingly. All in all a mere 6% of his 24 yr career has been tied to PEDs. All when he was past his prime in his late 30s. All of this was done at the height of the steroid era when considerable percentages of the MLB used, when there was no testing, no discipline and frankly no consequences to using. Roger was a product of his era, and of the context and culture of the league.

@BBUYTTV Месяц назад

Great analysis. Thanks!

@Bobby-Dingers 4 месяца назад

Pete Rose deserves to be in the hof

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

I agree. Keeping the all time hits leader out just doesn’t make any sense

@user-tm7me1ef9l 2 месяца назад

I went to UT, and I am a life-long fan. I became a Yankees fan in 1958 and continued to love the Yankees until Jeter retired. I never liked Roger Clemens. I believe that anyone who cheated should not be in the HOF. It is unfair to those who did it the right way.

@BBUYTTV 2 месяца назад

Definitely a valid opinion. I struggle with that sometimes because you will never be able to tell who was on it and who wasn’t. Thank you for the comment!

@user-tm7me1ef9l 2 месяца назад

Thanks for the video. I don't know that Clemens cheated. I don't know that Bonds did, or Sosa, or McGwire. But there seems to be some evidence regarding each of them. I was a Robinson Cano fan, and was greatly disappointed when I read that he cheated.@@BBUYTTV

@BBUYTTV 2 месяца назад

@@user-tm7me1ef9l thanks!

@ticnatz 4 месяца назад

Clemens et. al. belongs in the Hall, but maybe not until he has passed on (sorta like Rose)....

@CubaDugout 4 месяца назад

Is the narrator calling each of the teams by the singular? Red Sock, New York Yankee, Cleveland Indian…sounds a bit off to me.

@SECRETCINEMALOSANGELES 4 месяца назад

Fame

@floridianman 4 месяца назад

Hall of Fame 🏆

@yoholmes273 4 месяца назад

💯 % a HOFer .

@BBUYTTV 4 месяца назад

I agree

@stvinney 2 месяца назад

Without the guys taking the juice you might not see fans return to baseball If you remember they weren't enthralled by 2 natural atletes going head to head in a race for history. Plus almost all of those guys that regularly come up in conversation for the hof would've been in the hall had they not taken steroids Clemens was a hof before So was Bonds You just have to look at the stats and use your brain Btw I think both Bonds and Clemens are aholes I don't care about their feelings But this is common sense They were both great

@BBUYTTV 2 месяца назад

They were definitely both talented players. I agree that steroids probably helped bring back the fans. The steroid issue is a tricky one because we will never know who used and who didn’t for sure