I feel that the Hannibal wasp is better for killing infantry and land vehicles, while the ONI wasp is better at taking out the Hannibal wasp. I always feel at a disadvantage when I'm in a Hannibal wasp and the enemy is in an ONI wasp.
I think that ONI wasp is easier to use and can be effective when used by most people, but the Hannibal wasp takes more skill while being more devastating in the right hands.
I think all Hannibal vehicles have much higher skill ceiling than others. Ive seen guys wreck shop in Fiesta with Hannibal Mantises and Scorpions even with all the crazy req weapons.
I think they have different play styles. The Hannibal has lower armor, higher speed, faster shields, and arcing bombs, meant for quick bombing runs. The ONI Wasp is just a beefed up Wasp and should be used accordingly.
In infinite I made the wasp be basically the f15 jet fighters from today, extremely fast with 100 rounds per second 2 mini guns, I know it's op as hell, I decreased the damage it does to vehicles by a lot to make ghosts and banshees have a chance at taking out the wasp even though their velocity is quite considerably slower otherwise the wasp shreds infantry and even chieftain ultras within seconds
@@piat4975 those actually don't differ, they have brittle_glass as the main glass multiplier in the globals section so no, what makes the dif is that the Hannibal has a increased transfer damage to the cockpit section causing you death, also the fact that the rockets are quite strong against infantry
paranormal canada I can see that, find some cover to hover behind, watch your radar and deal accordingly, the bomb drops seem to work well against infantry, and the gause canon works well against everything lol
I use it on bombing runs against enemy armory. Better shield = less overall damage and cluster bombs kills spartan inside. Railguns kill high priority players with say, a railgun.
I thought ONI would be better for defense, they have more straightforward weapons, have tougher armor so they don't always need to retreat (But won't always last longer) And are just generally better for people who need something solid The Hannibal one is more ment for terrorizing an area for quite a while, Fly in, drop bombs, retreat and recover shields, repeat And their obsurd weapons would not need to be used to defend something incase said weapons don't attack the way you're trying to (You're much more likely to miss a hannibal bomb shot than a oni missile one due to it's arc) Which can result in a weaker defense
Sword of Malnok oni is more of a eye in the sky to help the team with ground and air targets nearby while Hannibal is a attack craft taking out anything in it's way
@@Xx-Darkcrimson-xX Hannibal is good for fighting ground forces as its alot harder to pick them off early with a Plasma Pistol due to the faster speed. They also merc slow vehicles like tanks with those Ion Bombs Blast Radius, they are just garbage in air. If you think ONI vs Hannibal is bad for the Hannibal you should see what it looks like when its Hannibal vs Ultra Banshee. Just rip that Wasp. Or goddness forbid someone actuslly gets a Phateon on the field. It wpuld just be better to cordinate plasma pistol and spartan laser fire than to waste a Wasp. Hannibal Wasp is good for flushing out camping spots though as most players run like he'll from the bombs no matter what
Hopefully this covers any uncertainties about the Hannibal/ONI Wasps. Also, “Vehicle Destruction” data for ALL STANDARD vehicles using Hannibal Gauss Repeaters and ONI missiles is in the video description box. I recommend you check it out! I gotta say, this is probably the most evenly matched vehicle pair released by 343i and it was really fun testing them head to head! Hannibal/ONI tips: For the Hannibal Wasp: keep some distance to your enemy and use the accurate gauss repeaters, use the increased speed/evasiveness to dodge damage, swoop in and carpet-bomb the shit out of people with the ion field bombs. For the ONI Wasp: get close (but maintain a smart distance) to increase HEDP machine gun accuracy, keep your distance to land/air vehicles and use the lock-on missiles to kick ass (complement with HEDP round bursts). Until next time Spartans!
Aozolai I think the Hannibal wasp is better for taking bases like garages and armouries and I think oni is better for taking down Spartans and other vehicles in open areas
I say Hannibal definitely is way better, but whoever the pilot was in the showdown wasn't using it at it's maximum effectiveness. Against a banshee or another wasp, you should get closer with the Hannibal wasp and get on top/fly sort of around them/above them and use the ion field missiles. Taking out the shields of a wasp with the gauss rounds then using an ion field missile barrage at the right location will kill the driver and generally leave the wasp still alive. And it's a quick take down. It takes lot of maneuverability but Hannibal wasp is much much better.
Another solid vid. Covered all realistic combat situations with those vehicles! I'd def say ONI has a slight advantage with homing missiles and HEDP rounds. Hannibal does have a stronger cannon with it being Gauss but because of charge time between each shot, if ONI pilot is skilled he'll know distance is his friend and wrong timing is the enemy. Heaps of space in the air to move; unless Hannibal pilot is so pro at timing and landing ION hits lol they'll win. Other than that ONI wasp has more advantages of winning air to air combat.
Aozolai Actually Hannibal might win if you don't charge guass repeaters to full. You can charge it until there is only 1 circle and release. Holding it is like the railgun - aiming.
I was kind of hoping the ONI Wasp missiles would be a bit more...special/stronger... I was also surprised that the Hannibal Wasp Gauss guns didn't have any splash damage at all. But overall great video. I think I (very slightly) prefer the ONI Wasp because that chaingun is ferocious. The sleek black heavy armor is cool too.
In infinite I made the rockets the wasp fires be muuuuuch stronger, from a mere 150 damage and like 20 for impact I increased the splash damage to 500 and impact also 500,it basically destroys light vehicles such as the banshee mongoose gongoose wasp ghost warthog razorback and chopper
@@PTPalmer_NPC in infinite I set them to 800 world unit witch is about 1.5km per second, that to the standard pistol in real life witch usually travels at around 700m per second.
So if you have to give Halo 5 credit for anything, it is that the new (not old but redesigned) vehicles look amazing. Also I really want this in Halo Wars 2 to replace the Hornet for one hero.
Plingket youre correct, oni is more a supremcy fighter(to gain air support) the hannibal is more close air support( for strafe runs on the battelfield, not a heavy bomber cuz it lacks the fire power for it, but the fast shooting gauss guns and arcing bombs are ideal for fast fly bys
@@detachsoup6061 Makes sense, especially with the stronger & faster recharging shields combined with its overall better evasion and speed. Hannibal is not meant for prolonged combat, just long enough for a hit and run without taking hits to armour, and then wait for shields to recover to repeat the process. Plus the the way it lobs the ion bombs plus their delayed detonation is good for either setting up quick traps or attacking from behind cover (or as you've noted carpet bombing).
Yes, now i can start working on my map. Large map bigger then a warzone map where each team has 3 mantis, 2 wasps, and one tank. One team is Hannibal while the other team is Oni, as Hannibal is blue and Oni is red. RED VS BLUE :D ;) :P Also the main area i plan to have the mantis fight each other will be on a bunch of destructible pillar bridges that will go over a giant ravine and the map will take place at night during a fucking intense snow storm.
Thing is the Hannibal wasp is not good against the Oni, as the Hannibal only can only actually get it with its main guns, while as the Oni can use its main gun and lock-on missiles.
with a small blast radius and slower bullet speed then the regular wasp. meanwhile the hanibals cannons are scanhit. as soon as they fire they hit.and you can kill multiple things with one blast of those cannons. sides i shredded the mythic hunters with the hanibal wasp.
to me it seems like the Hannibal wasp is a assault on ground based vehicles first and foremost. the experience I've had with the other to wasp has been primarily damaging to aircraft banshee usersare especially annoyed by it
This is true, but for most air to air engagements, I do believe the ONI would be the preferred option. As far as ground attack goes, you would want the hannibal any day of the week.
I see many people complaining about the ion field bombs, I personally do believe they are good, if you treat them as longer lasting plasma grenades they work just fine, the Hannibal wasp is faster to keep up with other vehicles such as warthogs and ghost better so it can launch the field bombs ahead or directly on target. Also for the aerial showdown between the two wasps the Hannibal isn't at as much of a disadvantage as it feels, if you simply get closer to your target you can stick the bombs since the hannibal like previously mentioned is faster the Oni can't escape.
hey Aozolai luv ur vids they have helped me maximize the most of my vehicle reqs to get the most skills. I have a request for the gungoose. At the moment im trying to complete the gungoose commendation but want ur input as to what gungoose is supreme? thanx in advance and u have just earned a new sub 👍
ONI Wasp is an up-armored version of the standard UNSC Wasp with a better machine gun where the Hannibal Wasp is a product developed by private military.
This actually looks like neat balancing. The Oni has homing projectiles but the Hannible has greater evasion and even shield strength and recharge time, not by enough to make a difference against those homing missiles but it probably would to a pistol user on the ground presented with a moving target.
I like the ONI Wasp because there is more armor, lock-on missiles, explosive rounds, and a faster rate of fire. but a downside to a faster ROF, is the overheat time is faster, so you must learn to control your fire to deal maximum damage.
Do you plan on covering the grenade launchers and sentinel beam? A tip video on the sentinel beam would be cool. It feels kinda week sometimes, but I wonder if I am using it in the wrong situations. Also, any thoughts on the new morph scope? Not sure what the advantage of it is, even though I kinda like it.
Wish H5 was able to make more use out of this crazy sandbox. There should've been more playlists with these variations. They don't really seem to fit H5 as well, it's hard to place but something about it feels off because of how hyperlethal and mobile everything is. By no means would I want these to bleed over into every aspect of a halo game but it's a cool idea that deserves more than a mode like warzone and the REQ system. It'd be nice to have a BTB Heavies with normal vehicles but also another Heavies with variations. I know they're in some modes but stuff like Fiesta doesn't do it justice.
Seems one is better for each situation. I would rather have the Hannibal Wasp for firefight because of its more powerful cannon and the spread of damage from its grenades, but in normal warzone it's hard to argue with the machine gun/upgraded missiles combo for killing spartans
Great video is always Azolai, I think Hannibal Wasp is quite better than the Oni, and would you like to do the random weapon challenge in Warzone, that'd be funny :)
It's a tie, now here's my version The Oni wasp is the regular version of the wasp but cools down very fast, and it's really easy to destroy, also is not that fast The Hannibal wasp is unique, it doesn't have rockets or a rapid fire rate, but it does have a very strong Lasers or what ever they are and they have a fast cool down, the bombs it fires kills anyone that it impacts on, but it doesn't go off if it didn't hit anyone So if you want to know what is the best wasp ( my opinion ) is the Hannibal Wasp If you have anything g to say, well say it, I have my ears open
The Hannibal's better shields(unfortunately weaker body, but ya know, gotta balance), quicker build, and spread-shot close-drop bombs... It's more akin to a bomber class vehicle, swoop in quick and low, drop the payload and get out. I like the Hannibal a bit more, but overall they're both pretty cool.
The way I see it: - ONI Wasp: General purpose, straight upgrade to normal Wasp, decent against infantry and all vehicle types. - Hannibal Wasp: Absolutely destroys infantry, good against ground vehicles, high survivability due to increased shield recharge and movement speed, falls a bit short against air vehicles.
I like the ONI Wasp because Missiles can lock on and it takes more damage and generally looks kind of better the other Only thing that's going 3 with that is it's speed
Oni is a great anti air fighter and supremcy fighter, hannibal looks more like close air support bomber, i can see that the gauss guns and ion boms are ideal for straffe runs on the battle field
I've noticed a pattern with these vids you often show the kill time for vehicles when you fire trhe weapon until it over heats and has to cool down wouldn't it be quicker for most of them to fire in shorter burst to avoid the CD?.
I would prefer the Hannibal wasp for ground troops as you can see the grenades it sends out and it hits the ground, but the Oni wasp it can lock onto ground and air vehicles.
I believe a slight error. The Ion Bombs will concentrate on a red reticled target. Blue reticle = wide spread Red reticle = tight spread Otherwise, thanks for doing the science.
Hannibal for all vehicles, but ONI is better for air fights because the Hannibal grenades are harder to hit with but if you know how to aim then the ONI wasp is dead.
Oni: Anti-Vehicle Use It's a req point cheaper, can maintain a safe distance and hit with rockets that lock on. More reliable hits against an enemy vehicle. Machine guns can handle infantry and are ready immediately. Hannibal: Anti-Infantry Better for cutting down a spartan or covering an area with its carpet time attack, more reliable kills against Spartans, but lacks a vehicle to vehicle heavy hitter. Cannons are good but can be outgunned.
I seriously think they should put the falcon with and without the front turret and wuth the grenade launcher turrets on the side and maybe even a hannibal and ONI one where the hannaibal has a gauss front turret and the gauss turrets on the side and for the ONI the side guns have explosive ammo and the front gun shoots full auto instead of a 5 round burst and also they can passengers riding it. like if you or try and show this to big channels and maybe 343 will listen
So what's the deal with Hannibal and ONI? Hannibal's more about high speed, high damage, and low armor, while ONI is more about...I guess just being a somewhat better version of the base vehicle?
In my opinion, the Morph scope is too high of a req level. By choosing Morph scope AR's, BR's, DMR's etc., you are passing up weapon attachments (long barrel, laser targeter, etc.) that actually improve your weapon. Not worth it for me, except to mess around with.
I believe the ONI Wasp to be the superior vehicle ENTIRELY on the merit that it is more versatile and combat-responsive. Lemme explain. Those guns need no charge up and are explosive, those rockets lock onto everything. You are not as agile as your Hannibal counterpart nor as fast, but you are no doubt more durable and can dish out a more _consistent_ beating. ONI: Consistent / long term damage output. Good for firefights of Attrition. Hannibal: Sporadic fire but extremely high burst damage. Good for hit and run tactics (You ain't gettin hit easy). If I were outfitting a hangar with one of the two I'd pick the ONI Wasp because it is simply more reliable and is more forgiving of user error. But the Hannibal Wasp is no joke. Not in the slightest.
You know the hannibal can fire the repeaters before the whole charge is up, like the railgun. Once the outer circle has reached the inner one you can fire. I think that might have an effect on a lot of your data here
Yes, you are correct. However, I prefer holding the charge to better aim the gauss repeaters, at least at the distances I showed in this video. Anyway, only the time-to-kill would be slightly decreased by not holding to full charge. More or less, it depends on how well the player can aim and their preference.
dude weld them together thus making a prefab but hannibal wasp will be the one to fly and shoot while oni will not be the to move because its gonna be turret and missile on the back
The Hannibal is probably better for infantry because of the plasma bombs which does lots of splash. Also if the Hannibal pilot is good at dodging missiles then the Hannibal will usually win
Both of them are very good and fun vehicles to use and very effective but the only problem is that they are too overpowered for early in game so maybe 343 should ramp the energy price of the oni wasp from 4 to 5 and the Hannibal wasp from 5 to 7, it's just that since they being added to the game I been loosing more games than winning and me using a phaeton hellios ended up getting out gunned by 2 oni wasps and 1 Hannibal wasp is just stupid but yet again I see why they added the anti air wraith to kinda counter measure that issue but still they need to ramp up the prices a lot
Although this video is a bit dated, I'm gonna put my 2 cents in. I feel like the hannibal wasp is better for ground targets while the ONI wasp is better for dogfighting
I like ONI’s wasp better becuase tho the hanable might be milatary made but the ONI wasp is more leathal due to its rockets it’s fire and explosive rounds it fires.
