Halo Infinite Season 2: Are The Tech Issues Finally Fixed? PC, Xbox Series S/X Re-Tested! 

This is wild. Microsoft built Dx12. Built Windows and Xbox. And yet this game is in the state that it is in. Its absolutely mind blowing.

It’s really irritating how long the game has been allowed to exist in such a poorly optimized state. It took over half a year to fix fundamental presentation issues like the animation playback rate and even then-frame pacing is still buggy and facial animations still look so choppy

Imagine if this game was released in December 2020 as original planned. This game needed to be delayed by 2 years.

It looks like Halo Infinite's development is coming along... I can't wait for it to come out of alpha!

wish we had more weather effects in the campaign

I want 343 to implement FSR 2.0 in this game. I personally think the game will benefit from this a lot since FSR 2.0 also supports Dynamic/Adaptive resolution scaling that this game uses all the time to reach it's target fps. FSR 2.0 will greatly improve the image quality at lower resolutions, and will also improve image stability.

Let's talk about the elephant in the room first. Is the game still a CPU hog on PC? Does the frame rate go to hell once you get to the open world despite the game running at 30 fps on 9 year old jaguar cores on the Xbox one?

Whilst it's good they're fixing these technical issues, my problem with Halo Infinite is they still haven't delivered the content they said would be included when the game was originally supposed to launch in 2020.

The weapon animations like the sentinel turrets also remain 30fps unfortunately.

I cant quite wrap my head around how this game launched with the amount of issues it had much less how many of these issues are still around. I really wish we could get an inside view of what the hell was actually being done during all that time.

So the worlds most powerful console can finally run video correctly in its flagship title, thats a win I guess

Nice to see some of my pet peevs addressed, but that broken VRR & 30 fps facial animation still being there along with the frame stutters... really makes it hard to want to replay it on top of the lack of multiplayer modes. Maybe by 2023, the game will finally be done & we can enjoy a true AAA experience.

6 MONTHS after release they FINALLY fixed the broken sound on pc... Surround even works! Now if only they'd have Forge, Horde mode and coop campaign like they promised

Honestly, I still just really want an improved anti aliasing option. Whether or not you like TAA, it's fairly obvious infinite has a terrible implementation of it. It blurs absolutely everything (especially foliage) as soon as you start moving at all. This game has really nice and clean textures and assets, but it all looks really muddy and blobby in motion. I've resorted to rendering at native, upscaling to a dldsr resolution of 4k, and have dldsr downscale back to 1440p to get a relatively clear image, and it's still not as good as it should be

i was losing my mind trying to get this game running smoothly at 120 fps with VRR. i wish i had seen this video first. thanks for the work you guys do

I find it so weird that this game has these issues. It's basically the Xbox's flagship game series, and Microsoft have been in the forefront in the console space when it comes to features like VRR and such. Yet one their own most important games has VRR problems that no other game has.

I noted when I was testing the HD60 X with VRR, Halo Infinite in multiplayer would just constantly bounce between 120 and 60fps, which explains the judder. SUPER strange

I wish they would fix the FOV issue where Master Chief's legs won't appear above FOV 78 as well as correct the messed up FOV animations when looking down at the Chief's legs and torso.

Microsoft's flagship title shouldn't have been released half baked. End of the day it was Microsoft's decision to release this game as it was. Not a good look.

Loved the singleplayer, I enjoy the multiplayer. But there are fundamental problems 343 needs to adjust

The devs should be embarrassed at how badly the game is built on a technical level. It's really awful.

Apparently I’m running this game at 170fps but it still feels like it’s 60fps. The weapon animations feels like they below 60fps as well.

"The Sound of Silence" as a kazoo duet is the improper frame pacing song we didn't know we needed.

I really think Microsoft (and a lot of other studios) should pay DF for all the QA work they put in. It's absolutely mindboggling how game studios release their games sometimes. I mean they literally spend years of their life to build this thing just to release it with some shitty rendering of the introduction cutscene. Who in their right mind thinks that this is fine? The best strategy for playing games these days, seems to be waiting for a year after release, to actually have a good experience. Unless of course you play a game from a studio like Naughty Dog that actually cares about the state of the game they release.

the utter incompetence from 343 over the past decade has been baffling... constantly playing catch up with all their games

I was one of those guys who noticed Halo 3’s frame time issues. It broke my heart because I was such a die hard Halo 1 & 2 fan. I simply could never play Halo 3 for more than a couple minutes before it started hurting my eyes and brain. People thought I was crazy back then too. I used to describe it as “Halo 1 and 2 had perfectly smooth and perfectly stable 30fps performance. Halo 3 doesn’t. It’s stuttering all the time. Every single second.”

the vertices on the chief's hands, with that sort of quake 2 effect on those vertices / polygons bubbling everywhere. that issue is still there, and it is bothering me a lot, 18:14

Game is so dead on PC that Titanfall 2 has a higher peak concurrent playerbase lol....

The most needed fix is the issue where a large amount of people still can't even launch the game on game pass for PC.

I've had finished this game, is a good game, but the diference btw an xbox exclusive to a ps5 exclusive is huge.

Why is 343 not able to get this stuff right without having it pointed out to them? They are given endless time and money to produce these games and yet there always seem to be these crippling technical issues.

The singleplayer is still frametime microstutter galore (on PC at least) since launch, to the point making 100+ fps feel like sub-60. Seems they have zero intentions to fix it.

How are there so many technical issues - and this far out from release? Isn't this supposed to be the Xbox's flagship title?

Imagine that you are supported by a company that has the largest funds in the industry and a lot of time to develop 1 game but still can't afford to launch a polished game.

Biggest issue with the game right now for online play is the ping and the ability to not pick a server/region to play on. All my games are on 180+ ping and since they “fixed” geofilter I never touched the game since..

That grunt flying through the back had me dying 😂

How can a company that had a budget of 500 million dollars to invest in a game be so incompetent?

noice a day 1 patch 6 months after release

The 120hz frame pacing issue also happens in RE 7. I always have to lower my console refresh rate to 60hz or else its choppy on the series X.

343 needs a SERIOUS infusion of talent. because they are WEAK with Halo.

Hard to be optimistic for Xbox future when its flagship franchise is in this state :/

Halo infinite has worse explosions and physics than halo3 from 2007. 343 had 6 years, utterly incompetent devs...

Ok the kazoo cover of "sound of silence" killed me lmao

We need to talk about tree shadows in distance!!

I just tried to play this on my PC. Settings medium/high, 1440p with FPS always over 100. But it's just so jittery, it looks like 45fps.

This is gamepass for you. Just mediocre games with tons of flaws, slow development time, very slow reactions to improve game ... Netflix quality finally came to Gaming market. What does it even mean to fix the first cutscene of the game after 6 months later ? How, why ?

8:41 I just want to say how much I love Ransom Keep, one of my favorite songs in the game!

Came here one year later to say the 60fps@120hz problem still persists 😢

343i has no excuses, keep the smart hard working people and sack the others.Only one game and they still can't release it properly, it's laughable.

343 promissed Raytracing on the PC version. It would improve the very low quality lighting. But with VRR and frame pacing problems still excisting then 343 probably wont implement RT.

When playing on Ultrawide turning isn’t smooth at all and has been consistent since release. It’s playable but swapping between this and cod is just wild the difference

This is what happens when you build your studios around firing and re-hiring contract workers.

I really think they should let someone other than 343 try their hand at Halo. 343 just haven't been cutting it with the recent iterations

Yeah, it is great that they work on it. But it is not normal to release a game with so many technical issues, which are still not fixed even to this day.

14:10 had me laughing so bad rofl, the dramatic hello darkness my old friend

Can we talk about the horrible weird transparent 2fps bird thing that shows up at 18:40?

This just shows what a bad engine 343i has created. The game not only looks outdated, it also doesn't run properly on any platform. Frame pacing, framerate caps, VRR, nothing works. The fact that 343i even introduced a 30 fps mode shows that they don't know their own game. A high-tempo FPS at 30 fps? Ridiculous. The Slipspace Engine is a complete failure.

I think at this point Halo Infinite needs a rename. It's now Halo Kindashit.

I really laughed out loud with the IFPI (can we acronym it by now, right?) the Improper Frame Pacing hymn. Thank you

They left things reach a point where they now need to address issues for both the multiplayer and single player aspects of the game simultaneously, and this would be counter productive in an ordinary situation, let alone one as heated as this. They've completely missed the train now...

The recording of the tv screen was very effective, I never understood frame-time issues until now.

I would assume the 30fps mode on Series X is the one they would add ray tracing to, which they promised in a post launch update. In a single player game that isn't that difficult I think having a 30fps Ray tracing option is a good thing. If we were talking Elden Ring I'd probably take 60fps.

343 is incompetant. But cross gen support on so many platforms doesnt make it any easier. Cross gen needs to go.

You guys honestly need to use 1080p monitors for the S because it's always going to look poor on 4k displays. Because, yes, it looks like crap at 4k but that isn't really the case on 1080p screens. Not that anyone is going to read these comments on RU-vid... I'm basically just talking to myself here.

The Steam version has been broken for two weeks since season 2..couldn’t even boot. I tried it a few days ago and was able to play it again.

I honestly forgot a Halo game came out.

Something that looks really weird on the PC version is the Anti Aliasing. It makes the game look soooooo weird at 1080p.

IMPROPER FRAME PACING! I don't think I've ever laughed so hard watching a DF video before! Kudos to the editor!

14:04 Maaan every time you guys bring up improper frame pacing it's hilarious lmao. I would be interested in seeing a video where a developer explains the difficulties of fixing improper frame pacing because I would assume there are still some difficulties if so many AAA games are releasing with improper frame pacing still ha.

As someone on a high end PC with a 144hz monitor it blows my mind that the in-game framerate cap isn't fixed. External framerate caps and V-sync aren't good alternatives because they break the dynamic res scaler which would give me a locked 144 but can't. Lowest settings at 1440p, 80% res scale on a 3080Ti cannot do a locked 144 and like covered in this video, drops aren't covered by variable refresh reate

Thank God they fixed the elevated blacks. This problem made a terrible first impression on me as it does whenever it’s present.

Halo Infinite is a textbook example of how not to treat or release your flagship game.

I have a 7700k and a 2070 Super with 32 gb of Ram and I attempt to run this game at 1440p dynamically scaled to try hit a solid 60 and can’t, and anything above or below 60 is an uneven frame-paced eye ache. Much to my surprise the performance mode on my Xbox One X feels better with a mouse and keyboard than my PC does. I just stopped playing the PC version entirely as the experience is just frustrating.

Halo is an expensive joke now. If this was a Sony first party game you guys would be ripping it saying how unacceptable this is in this state.

Devs keep delaying games and still delivering unfinished products.

I enjoyed the presentation on PC at launch. For context, I'm a massive Halo fan, so my bias is strong. I played on a 32" 60Hz 4k monitor running from my laptop with an i7-96750H, RTX 2070 Max-Q, 16 GB RAM. I certainly wasn't blown away though. There as also mention of raytracing. I haven't heard it mentioned since launch though. They obviously need to get the fundamentals of the engine running properly before they can add this in (if ever). Will this game run for the 10 years as a live service? From current evidence, I seriously doubt it.

Halo: Infinite development

I've got a Legion 5 and from day one I couldn't play this game because it had visual issues where it was rending everything in HDR despite the laptop not being able to run games in HDR. It looked dire. Does anyone know if this has been fixed yet? It was my most anticipated multiplayer game and when it came out I was super disappointed that I couldn't play it.

14:09 this caught me off guard lmao😂

It is now Dec 2022, this game still runs like doo doo on my 12700k, 3070ti, 2k resolution. DLSS / FSR would be a game changer, but the devs are too big brain to add this. I'm glad I paid a buck for gamepass to play the game, so life is good.

Man this sucks. Good games with bad, weird performance is maddening. My Zen 2 RDNA system could run the game great, 1080p120hz but nooooo....

"seasons" in videogames looooool whatever.

That bit about the improper framepacing was hilarious.

i play it on a Xbox One S over a 720p TV... i don't notice any of the problems you mention here xD except for massive framerate drops at certain (not too common) points, but in general it's playable.

What is difficult to grasp, to me, is that everyone has had the knowledge of these things (improper frame pacing etc.) FOR LIKE A DECADE! Still, we constantly get games, that are programmed like... Well, shit, to use the exact word. Like From Software, I mean, I hate their games altogether... But I hate even more, the fact that they seem to be like totally one of the worst programmers in the known history... And I'm not even joking. Some of these things in Halo Infinite and in MCC are like a decade old bugs, and they're still not corrected?!? Though MCC is kinda close to perfect, now.... Finally... Anyway, how it can be so difficult to make a proper frame pacing, some people cannot even lock their game to 30Hz/fps. They're locked to 31 (Crysis, even the remastered versions were botched, and they had a different developer, but even they couldn't fix it. Like, what the hell!?!) xDDDD Then there's something like iD or Coalition, polished games and about everything fixed really fast.

Yeah, still not fixed on a lot of this stuff. Cut scene after Pelican Down is still a stuttery mess on Series X. Also had an issue with the Tac-Map (and all of the associated menus as well) running at about 20fps. A restart fixed it but I'm still watching it closely. Should never has released in this state.

that ‘the sound of silence’ riff killed me

14:28 Lol, couldn't resist laughing :)

Rip halo😢

From the lack of content Being developed on Xbox one A year delay Now VRR and other graphical issues I’m starting to think 343 doesn’t have the best engineers :( what a bummer… I would LOVE to see 343 showcase what the split space engine on Xbox series X\S fully. Is it the engine? Is it not what we thought it was? Is it the engineers that suck at coding ?

>wants 120fps mode on XSS >disappointed in the compromises Make up your mind.

I want to point out as well that all of this is just fixing objective technical issues with the game that shouldn't have been there at launch. I can't even imagine how long it will be by the time we get Ray Tracing or proper next gen update. And even then I'd be willing to bet all we'll get is some sort of RT reflections update that is barely noticeable and nothing else.

I really wish DF covered other game like they do shit games like this lol

This game needs an urgent 40fps mode.

Maybe it's the lack of motion blur but the uneven frame-pacing in the 30 FPS mode bothered me here in a way that no other improperly frame paced game ever did.

I'm pleasantly surprised how well this runs on my ancient 1080ti/5800X3D in 2023 - almost 10 fps more on average compared to benchmarks from the time of it's release (open world). So they have either optimized this a ton or I'm missing something obvious here. With a little tweaking, 1440p@60fps is entirely possible without losing much visual quality. Pascal cards fared much worse a while back, I think.

Sadly, still no optimization for AMD Polaris cards, so RX580 performs almost as bad as GTX1050, if not worse

not touching this game again till forge and co op are added

Game: (Improper frame pacing even at 60fps) Alex: Peace? No peace.

6:27 I didn't remember encountering this issue so I started a new game, the lighting bug is still there and appear when the framerate isn't limited in the game, I play with unlocked and rtss set to 72 and it's flickering, set the game to 60 max fps and it foesn't flicker