Halo Needs A Reeboot 

343 are not capable of doing this. They dont have the spirit.

I mean infinite was supposed to be effectively a reboot and made a lot of right calls… but 343 is the worst game developer in history so managed to botch it anyway.

When Infinite released and I played the story, I could tell it was just 343 throwing their toys out of the pram. Everyone said they didn't like the stuff in 4 and 5 so they removed it ALL. And off screen. Palmer and Locke: gone. The Created: gone. Evil Cortana: Gone and replaced. They even blew up the Infinity! That was the one thing we did like! They just threw it all out for a half assed CE remake that lacks the heart.

its crazy how they wanted this halo to be a reboot, when i first saw the trailer i didnt see the flood remembering this is supposed to be a reboot, but remember when bungie did that too and told NO ONE that the flood was actually in Combat Evolved. The flood was everything about halo it gave it that edgy feeling and not having it in a "reboot" hurts my soul. Imagine how cool they could make the flood these days with animations.

A halo reboot would unironically, put the series in a much worse state then the state it is in right now This decision would be a lose lose situation for everyone

Also finally someone who recognises the nostalgia bait for what it is! It is not fixing Halo, it's distracting us with shiny keys

This is why I’ve stopped playing or investing myself with 343/Ms Halo and you’re hella right. The fucking excuse for a narrative is so fucking convoluted and distorted it makes no fucking sense. In terms of a cohesive story.

Halo needs prequels, not a reboot. They CANNOT make their own original stories but there's so much established lore that would make fantastic games. Even Operation First strike, the events between CE and 2, would make a fantastic game. More prequels to force the writers and developers to learn the lore.

I agree with a lot of your points. I have no idea if it would ever actually happen. But if they do, they had better stay 100% faithful to the classic art style. I wasn't a fan at all of the story in 4 or 5, but one of the biggest disappointments from those games was how they butchered the art style.

343 were given a silver platter and took it and just threw it out. They always talked about wanting to put their own spin on the halo series but failed miserably. Let’s ignore the mainline series for a second and just think of the spin-offs they could have made. A game about the ancient forerunner-human war and you ultimately play as a forerunner fighting humans only to learn about the flood. You aren’t pissing anyone off because it’s a completely new story with completely new characters with no established lore to contradict. Or instead of making a movie about Locke prior to being a spartan you make a game and actually experience it for yourself so we can build a bond with the character and have some build up prior to guardians. We got halo wars 2 which was alright but it’s not an fps, not every halo fan is going to go play it because it’s not their style of gameplay. It’s all hypothetical and what not but like I said they could have done a lot and not damaged the main line games

I think they should reboot back to the end of halo 3 and remake halo 4 and 5 to be in line with the original bungie tone.

If Halo is rebooted, I’m thinking rewind the clock to post Halo 3.

Frank o Conner needs to be held accountable

I always thought it would be cool doing s story where you're either ODST or Red Team and you stumble upon a crashed forward unto dawn and discover chief still in cyro

Halo doesn't need a hard or soft reboot, it needs to reboot the sequel trilogy, cut out 4 through Infinite

Wouldn't a reset to after the Bungie era fix the problem? You could keep the banished and start with a covenant civil war. Alternatively, start with a Halo: Harvest game where the covenant are scary and not comic relief. Have reports of colonist disappearances, or something in the mines. Rely stations going down and everyone there is found dead. The game is cartoony comedy now but it started as a dark military sci-fi shooter with high-stakes. I agree that it can't really continue, the game story is broken.

Put these as a dream sequence and restart from the time chief slept in halo 3.

This is probably the best reboot idea that I have ever heard.

I feel like a halo reboot would be a tough Phill to sallow but if they do it right I think it could be a good in the long run I mean Gen alpha is the biggest generation in the world right now and probably 60% haven't played the original games. it would open the series up to people who weren't born around the time. It would also open the possibilities for new stories to be told that make sense in universe since the way bungie ended halo 3 couldn't really build off anything else and we could always revisit the old games at the end of the day. However, this move could also be the final nail in the coffin for the franchise if not exacted correctly which is why I'd be so anxious of it.

I don't trust 343 and Microsoft to reboot halo, and really I don't trust any other studio to make a reboot, I've heard people say give it to ID because of doom eternal but that style of shooter isn't halo. Best case scenario imo, disband 343 the brands reputation is irreparable at this point, rebuild a team with devs familiar with the bungie games, take things that worked in both 343 and bungies game, put higher focus on community features, nuke the 343 Canon from orbit and restart from 4. There was a way to make halo 4 work it just needed people who were actually familiar with the lore. As far as new people being introduced to the originals, MCC still exists, I'd argue more people play MCC than infinite

There is a Halo comic called the cradle of life it was a comic made by bungie to promote halo 3. It’s a story about an African tribesman seeing the portal to the ark being built. It seems that it was bungie that changed humanity no longer being forerunner.

Infinite should've been the reboot. Half of infinites problems are due to it needing to be a sequel to halo 5. The gameplay is the best since reach and the arstyle is the best since 3 so it's a shame that it was wasted being a sequel to 5

I only recently started playing Halo, so I haven't witnessed this confusion in the story, yet. But this is a neat idea to keep the story focused and in order, especially the thought of "man vs machine", that's a pretty cool way to move forward.

NO halo needs be given to someone else cause Microsoft and 343 have mishandled the franchise way to much to not be on purpose

Not a bad take. Honestly what should be done is 343 should make a global apology, for the god awful storytelling from h4-infinite. Announce that they’re not canon. And I would either try and bring back the main heads of halo’s story or have another studio like certain affinity take a crack at it. The main ceo was the creator of h2-H3’s multiplayer.

Remake/boot Formula: - Preserve the soul and storybeats of the golden era! - Give it all the bells/whistles of modern tech!

I wouldn’t be against the remake boot but I would be very cautious about it

Master Chief should've died in the end of Halo 3 as long he is the protagonist people are going to expect epic stories from him

I mean halo reach retconned the very first halo thing ever released; the Fall of Reach. So it’s not like bungie was entirely set on what they were doing.

I feel like Reboots of Reach through 3 would allow them to add adjustments to possibly make the games even better. For example, HALO 2 ended up being rushed and was supposed to have 2-3 more missions

I agree, I just dont trust them to reboot well they should give up or a new dev to reboot. We gave them trust they abused every time never again.

Halo Infinite WAS the reboot. But they did a lousy job of it.

Its my opinion that the halo story ended with halo 3, and there hasnt been a halo game since.

I can see them eventually moving on from John 117. And if that day does come they actually have the perfect way to do it: Jerome 092. With Jerome being on board the Spirit of Fire, they have multiple Spartan 2s that are technically much younger then John 117 and Blue Team. So you can have a reboot with much younger Spartan 2s.

It is very clear that 343's canon takes place in a separate, alternate universe which is poorly written and executed by an incompetent studio. A reboot post Halo 3 (both games and EU-wise) would be an ideal scenario. Humans are Forerunner, they have always been Forerunner and this has been made abundantly clear in Bungie's era. The rebooted series of games should build off of this fact, and maintain narrative consistency if several games are planned. Oh, and 343 shouldn't be the one to do it. Their mishandling of the franchise for the previous decade is evidence enough that they should be kept far away from any future projects.

So long as 343 has halo, I don't want it. If 343 loses halo, then yes.

This is kind of what Infinite was supposed to, the banished a new alien group to take the place of the covenant, the endless whatever they were supposed to be, heck I would have loved it if they brought back the flood. If you look at it you can see that the entire campaign was pretty much the 2nd level of CE ending on a cliffhanger so they could expand the story. The only problem is instead of releasing DLC or any sequel 343i decides to fire the entire campaign staff.

NO, what halo needs is a new developer

If we got a reboot of Halo I’d want them to remake Halo 2 using newer hardware to give us Bungie’s original vision. Halo 2’s third act would’ve been a vastly superior ending to the story than what we got in 3. Watch C3Sabertooth’s Halo 2 storyboard animations and you’ll agree. Truth’s plan actually made sense, the Arbiter went through a complete character arc, and the big reveal showing that humans are Forerunners would’ve been so much more impactful. 3 was fun, but the “story” was trash.

Love and respect your take/video definitely agree one hundred percent. One note I don’t agree with killing cheif anytime soon. Maybe we need less him and more from other in world characters.

After the incredible Doom Eternal, I think Microsoft should hand Halo over to id Software tbh.

Shayne, please shut up. We shut this idea down a few months ago, don’t start it up again. When Infinite launched, it was looking promising. It still is, with the promise of a new game. They’re definitely continuing with the endless now. We need to stop bringing up 4 and 5s blatant dropping of plot lines and enemies and focus on what Infinite’s trying to do. There are good things that 343i have introduced to Halo, don’t pretend there aren’t. And don’t pretend like a combat evolved remake would be good. It wouldn’t.

Agreed halo4 and 5 fucked any chances of a coherent story

Imagine how different the gaming world could be if bungie never got rid of halo if they always wanted it, imagine if they had love for it still. Shit hurts mane

Respectfully, I will have to disagree. A lot of people rightfully criticize 343 and their direction, but I actually enjoy this evolution they are going for. I agree that the true Halo ended with 3, ODST and Reach, but you can’t just be stationary. You will always need a new, creative direction. Given the track record of Halo 4-5, I think Infinite has shown that if they pay enough attention and give enough love, Halo can go in the right step.

Halo was already writing itself into a corner by Halo 3, and the problem rests in its name. As long as you have the name Halo, many decisions are going to be made around answering a Halo-Bomb Level Threat. The next step in the series should have been humanity accepting their roles as The Forerunners, and accepting the Mantle of Responsibility. Storylines this could include: 1. Repopulating the universe, and finding safe shelter planets for species affected by the flood and war with the covenant. 2. Building new Halo rings and stomping opposing threats who are against it. Eg rebellious human factions. 3A. Humanity setting up a race in the current galaxy to don the mantle of responsibility, possibly good factions from the covenant, while humanity takes its mantle of responsibility outside of the current galaxy. 3B. Exploring space outside of the current galaxy, into newer galaxies. Colonizing deep space and protecting New Colonies. 4. Civil War.

I somewhat agree, Leave all the Bungie era games alone, maybe a halo 3 anniversary but that's about it. Apart from that the only way forward would be either restarting after halo 3 or more spin off games. 343 struggle to pick a story line and stick to it and have continued to kill characters off.

Shayne… RoN, Halo…. You’re the perfect RU-vidr in my book! Keep it up!

With the way 343 changed halo to be more CoD as soon as they got the IP I don’t want to know what they’d do for a blank canvas. At least their campaigns had gotten better with HW 2 and Halo Infinite. The only reboot I’d be good with would be a 343 era reboot but keep the banished because that is a great concept and a good start for new a game(s) because humanity and the Elites are the weakest they have ever been and the banished are still at the strength that not even The Covenant could stop.

Just got to the end, I love the idea of the remasterboot’s of the first three games and pretty much screw the 343 era

to save halo we must activate the rings

I can't say I agree with your idea to remake-boot the series, I think it would be far too costly for Microsoft to ever consider it as well. I don't think the idea is poor though, and I'd like to offer up Dead Space as a good example of what you're talking about. By the time Dead Space 3 launched in 2013, the series had lost its way from horror to action shooter. Motive Studios 2023 remake of the game honored the original vision, while adding in gameplay benefits from later titles. They cut out the weaker moments, or revamped and expanded on them to create something that was celebrated and had people begging for a sequel remake in the same vein.

Yes, we just need halo to be remastered but on FULL VIRTUAL REALITY or likely... imageine Halo1 like Half Life Alyx

A reboot would honestly destroy the franchise, people would be more confused then they already are, the gold timeline would have too many loose ends and people would be stuck between games, it would split the fanbase more than ever, instead of taking time into writing the story over again, how about we all put our brains together and have 343 redo 4 and 5, it’s a stretch but why not, the reason halo is the way it is, is because now and days we are not hard enough on the people providing us these games

Before I watch the video, I just want to say that I personally believe that there needs to be a new long term spartan instead of just Master Chief, and I'm not saying that Chief needs to be retired, but I think they need to bounce around with different stories, I know they tried that with 5 and it sucked, but they also tried it with 2 with the Arbiter and it was dope. Maybe Chief could take on an apprentice spartan because of X circumstance and you play as Chief for most of the game but then you play as the new spartan after you begin to like his character, kind of like Ellie from TLoU1, and then after that game is over, the two spartans say their goodbyes and bounce between the characters like Treyarch and Infinity Ward do.

If Microsoft came to me and said they want to reboot halo and want to know how they should do it, I'd tell them this. Firstly, finish the story you have now, but have it end with how DC recently rebooted their animated movies. The universe has gone to shit and theres so little left the only way they can make things better is to restart time and hope that the new timeline will be better, but how would I start this reboot simple a Reach style game. Multiple Spartans with some being replaceable if you have a friend join you and with full customization with armor and voice. Id start it like ODST with you dropping into enemy fire with your Squad of 3 replaceable spartans and 4 non replaceable ones that makes it a team of 8 counting you being dropped into hell on earth basically, but instead of the the Covenant your fighting regular soldiers (the resistance) they have no over shields and you are basically wiping the floor with them for 1 whole misson and then the second misson would have you start to fight with the resistance again but while your fighting and tearing through a base a ship warps in stopping the fight as everyone is in schock and terror of what it is. The ship starts to spew out ghost and phantoms as the Covenant make their first ever appearance. From there, the story would basically be you fighting to survive and figure out how to fight these aliens and being given a proper challenge now. The game would be open world similar to Halo Infinite or a Far Cry game where there's outpost and you can take things down anyway you want but with some missons being linear and the 4 spartans you have that cant be replaced by your friends spartans dying by the end. Why would i make the reboot like this way because it would be a fresh start where even people who dont know its a reboot can hop in with this being first contact with the Covenant it would work as a jumping off point for new stories or if it was to fail it could just be set in the old timeline due to it being set early in the war. If i was to take gameplay inspiration from any games it would be Halo 5 and infinite, Halo 5 for just how you could slam into things and do a bit of a hover and infinite so it would have a classic yet new feel to somethings. Art style similiar to infinite as well. This idea probably isn't the best, but it's what i would do, and i would flesh it out more, but i dont have the time to do so

One thing we need is prequels from harvest to reach it would be interesting to see the chife in mark 4 then later change to mark 5 and maybe have the first game be fighting the insurrection than later the covonent and after 3 will be eather a short story to stop the remaining threat being the flood and small groups is pre covenant pirates and even insurrection and have some short cutscenes of chief going back to civilization and living a normal life

If you guys think about it, halo 3 is essentially the final game 🎮 in terms of storytelling stand point. Halo 4 thru halo infinite ♾️ is essentially the aftermath of halo main storyline. Basically halo 3 is like the MCU of Avenger endgame, movies afterwards is essentially the after thought. When I remember clearly, after halo 3 game, the bungie game studio made a fantastic decision to go back on the story timeline and have a story of different character hence Halo Reach and halo 3 ODST. So in my opinion, I completely agree with this video! They do need to make a reboot of halo, there is alot of potential for reboot content.

Here's my unpopular opinion, the original games hold a dear place in my heart, but I've never disliked 343's approach. Additionally, I very deeply enjoy the live action show that is currently 1.5 seasons deep. I think originalists are valid in their concerns, but I don't believe that stories can't evolve. I think a true Halo enjoyer is either going to join the company and impact the series/story themself, or just simply enjoy its continued existence.

A full reboot will ruin halo

I think Halo infinite’s story is pretty good. Not amazing, not peak halo, but good. Solid. The only thing I dislike are the endless, or rather there immunity to the halo rings but that could end up interesting if they come up with a good reason why. I guess the banished are “off-screen” but you have the Halo-wars game that flesh them out really well. I never played the games I just watched a plot summary/recap. There lore makes sense, they’re pretty cool, and they have a unique aesthetic separate from the covenant due to being brute lead. Overall I like the direction Halo is going now. I just wish they went there immediately after the end the covenant, instead of the didact and created direction. Halo infinite basically served as a soft-reboot, tied up the plot lines that were poorly written by off-screening them (I don’t care that that it happened off-screen, it was so bad), and introduced us to a much more interesting and reasonable (within the lore, like they make sense as a faction) enemy to be against. We have to see what comes after infinite. At the very least a conclusion to the banished story arc before we’re should start talking reboots. Overall I disagree.

This dude is SO good at this stuff he does like holy shit

343 industries don't deserve HALO *Periods*. They would make a whole different game besides the Halo and Halo War series. They made a bad narrative of the Halo universe and the main character.

i think they should start again from the end of halo 4. this is probably a unpopular oppinion but i do like halo 4, and i think it does a decent job with its story. i do think they should bring back the didact somehow to be the next big threat after the covenant. ALSO BRING BACK THE FLOOD and for the non story part of the games, they should just stick with infinites graphics and gameplay and only improve on them, becouse im a big fan of halo infinites gameplay and graphics

25 seconds in I already agree

Here is the thing I love this idea of the reboot, but to be completely honest this will never happen, Micorsoft does not care about player base just about milking the game. If they ever do this then I will be ecstatic. From what I heard though 343 is going to be dropped as devs for Halo, but I am not sure.

How about we don't reboot it. If we do, we retcon parts of HALO 4, all of 5, and make infinite, and the part of 4 that is kept sorta merge. Have brutes, jackles, grunts, buggers, hunters, and engineers make a new group that trys to not only enslave other species, but go for galaxy wide domination and wiping out anyone who refuses to join

True we need cortana and cheif back

not a reboot but spin off, the lore around reclaimer saga is so bast that making a reboot would be a huge step back.

Halo need a reboot to halo 4

3 was the last game in the series everyone knows that

Infinite sort of made me want a reboot. The way they approached the story felt simple and enjoyable to me. Up until Halo 3, I felt like everything was quite straightforward. Beyond that I am totally lost. If they were to make a reboot, there's a chance to implement some more depth to the story in small bites so that when the time for a new Halo 4 comes, you feel ready to explore further. But that's just wishful thinking I guess. With the way 343 handled Halo up to this point, I don't think my interest in it will ever be near the peaks it used to be at.

The points you make actually sound plausible, but only really in the vacuum of the parameters set in the video. There is a glaring problem with this take, which is by "remake-booting" the franchise there is a constant discourse and discussion on what is the "correct" canon. Look at star wars when Disney bought lucasfilm and all the prior media was made "Legends". People were seriously pissed off, and turned away from the franchise because of it. Look where SW is today. 343 finally did *something* right with Infinite's story. Yes it has its flaws and yes all the prior conflicts were fixed off-screen. But if they were to drop what they did with Infinite and start again I think it would be the last straw for many fans.

No we don't want remakes or reboots of something that is good. Overwhelmingly it'll be done worse. So no, no remake-boot or whatever of Halo CE - 3, it'll be worsened. CE - 3 are loved and very popular because of how they were made EXACTLY how they were made - flaws, cut content and everything else. You start adding cut content then you are just as destructive as 343. Just leave old, good things alone. If you're not as good as the original creators then don't even go there, because any change you make will damage the product in some way. A reboot post Halo 3 sure I'm all for that because Halo 4, 5 and Infinite destroyed so much that was good about Halo, so even a poor reboot can't do any further harm. We as a species need to just stop trying to change things. We're constantly changing or adding - just stop. Modern generations are almost entirely incapable of writing good stories, that's why we're still using books from the 1900s to make movies (I'm a millennial).

a man can dream

I would like a reboot but 343 is just not the dev team for this task, they are aimless and incompetent. I just cant trust 343 with halo

Why the HELL would you trust 343 to reboot from the very start? Do you honestly think 343 are capable of doing the Bungie games better than the originals? I wouldn't mind them retconning the stuff post H3, but starting over from the beginning would be a terrible idea. If the "new" Halo 1 isn't anything short of phenomenal, the series would be dead to me and many other fans. It's way too big of a risk, and I don't think 343 are capable enough to make it work, in fact, I don't think any developer could make it work.

No

Or maybe a new war were chife and maybe even Cortana have been lost for a vary long time for decades or even centuries since there lost in Randon uncharted space and it's basically a civil war with people and pre unsc soldiers even odst and new gen Spartans with new hybrid technology and weapons and veacles

I was with you until you started saying it needs a FULL reboot. The naysayers are right about one thing: that would be a COMPLETE DISASTER. OG fans would hate it and it wouldn’t draw in new audiences because it just wouldn’t be nearly as good as the originals. Partial reboot is the clear choice. The problem with your logic is you’re viewing it as a zero sum game. Like it’s some kind of half measure, but that’s not the case. What matters is how the reboot is PRESENTED to new audiences. A perfect recent example of this is the Fallout tv show. It’s great, well written, and it exists in the same continuity as the games. It’s presented from the perspective of the new characters. Normies are introduced to the world building at the same time as these characters in a natural, organic way. You cannot convince me that Halo is incapable of doing the same. Obviously it would have to discard Halo 5 and everything that comes after (Halo Wars 2 can be justified to stay), but a post Halo 3/4 setting can easily be fleshed out under competent writers. If it’s treated like a Marvel movie where you have to do homework just to understand who anyone is, then obviously it will fail, but your talking about it likes a forgone conclusion. I do not agree with your assessment here. Also… I understand this will put a target on my back from a big segment of the fanbase, but I DESPISE human Forerunners. I’ve always hated the idea. I don’t even care if it was retconned or not. At this point, the debate will never end no matter what evidence to the contrary is presented, but I just hope that IF a partial reboot happens, the Forerunners remain a separate species. I’m sorry but it’s such an ancient, cliched, and boring trope that ruins the mystique of the Forerunners. I’d much rather their connection to us remain mysterious.

I’d accept it 👍🏼

i agreed on your take in terms of remaking Halo 1 - 3. playing those games i always feel that whatever the game was was limited to the capabilities of hardware at the time. the story and lore was good, but bungie could only do this much. with how far we’ve come with tech, i really feel that Halo 1 - 3 could benefit from a remake too. same story, but more fleshed out. One good example was Halo 2 anniversary. graphics updated, cutscenes ramped up to a 1000 in quality and lore, with some improvements to gameplay. although it was still limited to tech at the time. the remake games could begin with the events before > fall of Reach, where we play other spartans/odsts before playing master chief’s story. more scenes, battles are mixed into the classic story. I’ve always imagined if a new gameplay type Halo game could go towards a mix of classic halo and star wars battlefront style of massive warzone type battles. mixing. i’m always in awe of how star wars battlefront makes you feel like you’re really part of a massive scale war while also still keeping a linear narrative. nonetheless, your take would still be really risky. i personally think 343 has gone too deep into a rabbit hole with what they’ve done so far up till infinite to really do a good retcon. the story has went too far into “what’s next?” that suddenly stopping what they’re doing would seem too jarring.

No JUST NO

I WANT NEW ALIENS😤😤

No duel wielding, no playable Elites and no awesome classic Halo weapons ... 343 are just incompetent

no it doesnt lmao it just needs to stick to its guns and choose a storyline to follow

HALO DIED AFTER HALO 3. (With the exception of ODST and Reach.)

Respectfully, I strongly disagree and fail to understand. The reason that these threads keep going unresolved is *because* 343 keeps doing soft reboots after fan backlash. Halo 5 was originally set to feature the Didact and tie up his story, or at least continue it. Halo infinite was yet another soft reboot. 343 needs to *stop* rebooting halo and stick to a story. I hope and believe that 343 will be continuing the story started with infinite, as I think the endless could be a very interesting.

No, it doesn't.

You lost me when you brought up the resident evil remakes, which strip the artstyle story and humor of all of its respective games. The resident evil remakes are TERRIBLE examples.

Halo is dead

Halo CE is the gold timeline and Bronze this vid though it has every valid point and things I hope come true 🤌🏼 halo needs some well deserved love

I agree 100% about Halo needing a reboot the story has just been such a mess and Infinite just feels terrible honestly even though they threw out the bad from 4 & 5 it just still sucked and felt lifeless ! I’m just worried that a Combat Evolved reboot would be a massive fail in 2024 lol they’d ruin it by shoehorning a bunch of unnecessary changes and identity politics. They can’t can’t even get resets/reboots right anymore

No