Hand Rub to a Flawless Finish

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⚙️ SHOW NOTES - EPISODE #157: Fine finishing is truly an art. One of the most important steps in achieving a fine finish is “finishing the finish” where the applied finish is rubbed to a shimmering sheen. In this episode Tom shares the best practices he's learned the hard way, toward achieving honestly gorgeous hand-rubbed finished surfaces. No smoke and mirrors, we promise!
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@mikeatwell9959 Год назад

Having watched the original live session, and this edited session, this one keeps the best of the instruction without some extraneous questions.

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Thanks Mike, we are hoping it would be useful in that way! 👍

@camdives Год назад

This edited version is awesome as a refresher before I finally start the “finish the finish” process today, much appreciated Tom and Kris

@EpicWoodworking 3 месяца назад

Our pleasure Cam…I have to give the Camera Lady all the credit for the editing! 👀😎

@sewcrazylady Год назад

I love this! For us, it won't replace the live, but if we weren't able to watch live, this is a great alternative. Fantastic editing job Tom & Kris🙂

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

So glad you enjoyed it, the camera lady gets all the credit for the editing! 😎

@g.fortin3228 2 месяца назад

Incredible. I just got a lot more fussy. Thank you for demonstating these methods. It's better than reading an article..for visual people to remember the details.

@EpicWoodworking 2 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it! 👍

@poppamichael2197 Год назад

Another truly excellent presentation. This is the best discussion of the post-finishing process I have seen. The step-by-step and side-by-side comparisons were particularly helpful. Many, many thanks.

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Thanks Poppa, I enjoyed making it, thanks for watching! 👍😎

@bobbabcock3847 Год назад

I really like the new editing format a lot

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Thanks Bob, we have the Camera Lady to thank for that! 😎

@JohnDoesItAll 4 месяца назад

Great demonstration! Thank you😊

@fwtistsaprounis1067 4 месяца назад

Great video!! I’m trying to rub out with 0000 steel wool a table top from white oak but I have some issues. I used lacquer(3 coats of sealer and 2 nitro laquer). It’s silky smooth and I love the satin look but if I touch it with my nail I have scratches, actually they are lines in higher shine. Do I do something wrong?

@carlhanton Год назад

Love your videos and this was really excellent! You are a great teacher

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Thank you so much Carl, you made my day! So glad you enjoyed it too. 👍😎

@Mark-jd1fr Год назад

How many Waterlox coats did you apply?Time between coats?Did you sand between coats?How long did you let the surface cure before doing the rub out?Thanks

@gillesalbert277 Год назад

I live in New Brunswick Canada and Canada is coming more and more environmentally friendly so I switch to water bass lacquer so what is your recommendation to finish the finish I can build nice furniture but if the finish doesn’t look good we’ll you know it’s always been my problem, really enjoy you program thank you Gilles.

@walterrider9600 10 месяцев назад

thank you . do you throw the foam pads in the washer ? then let em air dry ?

@boblevey 3 месяца назад

Good video. Pretty much what I knew but I really liked how you broke it all down and your demonstration. We all ways used turtle wax in the spritzer bottle for our polished lacquers at the end after rubout etc 55 yrs at the trade. Thank you

@EpicWoodworking 3 месяца назад

Oh that’s a great idea, I have never heard or thought of using Turtle wax…but why not use it? I’ll check it out one of these days. 55 yrs, wow, I’m sure you know lots more things I could learn from. Thanks for watching 👍

@boblevey 3 месяца назад

@@EpicWoodworking it works great and not terribly pricy. Cheers

@rwoodard2 8 месяцев назад

Great video!! Can you use (or have you tried) a automotive clay bar for leveling? Automotive type use is to remove dirt and grit before polishing. Thanks.

@notlisted1493 Год назад

I like this guy.

@gabrielbrummell9652 Месяц назад

Hi, i started this process for a project that was finished using polyurethane. I can see a peeling effect when I started reaching the higher grits. I let the finish cure for over a month. Is there any way to fix this? Should I keep sanding through with a high grit like 3000 to remove them? I know in the video it said polyurethane cures in layers and I’m wondering if it’s the difference in layers that is appearing. Help!

@EpicWoodworking Месяц назад

Yes, I’m sorry to say it is likely you are seeing the layers of finish. When you say “peeling effect” the question of adherence of the varnish layer to the sealer coat below is also in question. A lot of these curing finishes recommend sanding to no finer than a certain grit between coats in order to provide enough “tooth” for the next coat to adhere properly. As I may have mentioned in the video, when rubbing out varnish finishes like these, some varnishes like Waterlox tung oil based, are more friendly to the process, and beginning with 1200 grit wet/dry to first level the finish works well. Polyurethane is a difficult varnish resin to rub out in this way due to its hardness so I have not much direct experience using polyurethane except for the few times I tried it years ago and moved toward more friendly varnishes as a result. Usually my approach when experiencing a “rub through” during the process (as I hope I mentioned during the video), is to scuff the surface again with the recommended grit paper and brush on another adequate coat. Then wait again before trying the process of rubbing out again…which is why it can be so disappointing to see a “rub through” during the process. I hope that helps a bit, all the best with the project! 👍😎

@lisamarie8700 Год назад

I just polished a poly surface with Rottenstone, and it definitely works better with lemon oil than with water! Still, not easy to get the shiny finish, as you said.

@mikeatwell9959 Год назад

hey Tom, could we follow this "finishing the finish" process with Arm-R-Seal? Or is Arm R Seal the wrong finish to use with this process. Thanks again for ALL your videos, guides, and teaching.

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Yes Mike, you can try it on Arm R Seal, but like I mentioned in the video, that finish contains polyurethane as part of the resin blend, making it a harder surface, less receptive to the rubbing out process, although possible. 👍

@randyhamblin7262 Год назад

Tom, what is the “varnish” that you used after the shellac and Waterlux? Also, which Waterlux product…the original finish, sealer/finish, etc.?

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Hi Randy, If you want to bring out the full chatoyance of a wood with lots of figure, you can omit the shellac and go right with the varnish, although you will still enjoy the chatoyance with the shellac. I always prefer to use the Waterlox original sheen to build the coats, and only move to the satin sheen for the last coat or two when a satin sheen is desired without having to rub out the finish. Hope that makes sense and is helpful.

@carlcarlssen4299 3 месяца назад

Wow amazing work. Im a new woodworker and the finishing process seems like an entire new hobby,lol. Kinda got overwhelmed with the steps. Have to rewatch the video a few times. Seems like there are several "final steps",lol.

@lucyhanks500 3 месяца назад

Yesterday I watched the new vikings churn out grandfather Albert as Mr Colin’s from pride and prejudice, I mean there must have been something interesting about reading through Collins dictionary with a ruler, like an inspection; and he thought I was funny despite not wanting to put 50pence in the electric meter. Mind, the slave trade must be dwindling if they’re tapping people that died 30 odd years ago. I wasn’t initially inclined to believe that anybody would actually enjoy watching their fleece float past on a tv whilst they’re robbed of life and sanity, but there’s been so much oppression I still don’t get the psychology of hanging people on for life with the privilege of their own reflection. Obviously I’m not deemed part of the local community, because I’m deemed offensive to peoples vanity; Like I’m a hindrance to them watching themselves. And of course I have to be reminded daily that I’m a person of no importance, which is a really lovely experience along with the funny atmosphere being emitted by media waves to mark where the poni is to any passing danger looking for a toilet, and I must remember a woman’s value.

@carlcarlssen4299 3 месяца назад

@@lucyhanks500 can you elaborate on the part about media waves being emitted? And what's the reference to the poni?

@peterradsliff527 3 месяца назад

I have followed your African Mahogany shellac process but now find that Watco and MinWax lacquer say to not apply it over shellac. You often talk about adding lacquer over shellac. Can you please comment on why you say it’s okay but the lacquer manufacturers say it is not?

@notlisted1493 Год назад

What is a varnish? Is that a shellac?

@magcolor 8 месяцев назад

👍👍👍👍👍👍

@ianboreham454 6 месяцев назад

I'm curious why you call it a levelling step. If you see shiny (low) spots and then sand those more, you'll be making them even lower. To level it, you'd need to sand the high spots instead of the low spots...

@EpicWoodworking 6 месяцев назад

Yes, I must not have said it well, I meant to express exactly as you described…it’s leveling because the areas around the low spots are brought down into plane. But only after enough finish or grain filler has filled in the low spots. Thanks for helping me clarify! 👍😎

@robertdurio8756 6 месяцев назад

You're kidding, right? Of course he's sanding the high spots.

@shawnpaulson4834 4 месяца назад

Nice! Thanks for sharing. Finishing is not my favorite part.

@jerseycornboy 3 месяца назад

use mineral oil for sandiing NOT water.

@JHall-jo9rm 2 месяца назад

I have mineral oil on hand for my finish and am nervous trying it - as I've been reading some so-so feedback on it. Have you used it on a lacquer finish?

@jerseycornboy 2 месяца назад

@@JHall-jo9rm I haven't used mineral on lacquer finish but all you have to do it lacquer another board to test it and see what happens. I use mineral oil a felt sanding block and 1200 grit paper to smooth out the finish

@richardhaas1989 Год назад

Tom's vocal is way too low. Please Normalize his track to -1db.

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Thanks Richard, we’re addressing it! 👍

@brianfarrier7 5 дней назад

Too long winded I'd forgotten half way through what the beginning was about

@EpicWoodworking 4 дня назад

Sorry it was too slow for you. This was recorded as a livestream so not the tighter “just the facts” video you’re used to.

@randyhamblin7262 Год назад

Tom, what is the “varnish” that you used after the shellac and Waterlux? Also, which Waterlux product…the original finish, sealer/finish, etc.?

@EpicWoodworking Год назад

Hi Randy, I used Waterlox original for the varnish. I like to build the varnish coats with the clearer original sheen, and only apply the satin sheen for the very last one or two coats if I desire the satin sheen look. You can also apply the Waterlox directly as the sealer coat, skipping the shellac, which with some higher figured woods can bring out more depth and chatoyance. Hope that helps! 👍😎