Dave casts his eye over the key details on the 2020/21 Trek Emonda, the latest iteration of the climbing bike from Trek. Check out our other channels: Instagram - @road.cc Twitter - @roadcc Facebook - / roadcc Web - road.cc
This seems like exactly the same KVF design from a few years ago upgraded with disc. The prices at 33% higher for the SL6 which used to be $2499 for the rim brake and now costs $3299 for this new design with disc brakes. Trek seems to alternate between oval tubes and the aero tube shapes every few years. In addition, all their bikes have gotten heavier with disc brakes. The old Emonda SLR6 to my recollection was 14.75 lbs and was in the $6000 range. I don't think you can find anything that low weight anymore without paying $10k or more.
Good review. I have last years SLR and love it. Wish it had the threaded BB.I ordered mine before rim brakes went away and I love them. These have absolutely silly stiffness for pedaling and handling agility is the best. Compared to a Tarmac I rented in Maui that felt like a heavier handling but still fairly stiff. Thanks for going into the aero changes.
i would love to see and ride the old madone 7 series compared to the new emonda slr , i think they are very similar by the looks of things , maybe someone can make such a video
Any more opinion on the harshness of the ride? I run 28c tires at around 65-70 PSI on my zipp rims. I figure with this set up the Emonda frame would feel less harsh - fair?
You should get a 1000 FPS camera and take these new bikes over a section of cobbles or through a big pot hole to show frame flex in those situations. Gives a representation of how comfortable it is, but more importantly looks cool like PinkBikes Drop to flat with mountain bikes, haha.
It does look like an old Madone. I have a 2012 Madone 5.2 lashed to my Kickr...and I have to say the frames look quite similar. Poor thing it just sits there bolted to the trainer while the new Domane gets to go outside.
That is exactly what I thought when I first saw it. I also have an old Madone, a 6.9 project one, and that also was a little bit aero, and very light, exactly like this new Emonda. Time for a new bike!
The SL6 is the price point at which you get carbon rims. Not that light though given the reputation of the emonda is it is featherweight. The size 56 is 17.71 lbs according to Trek. The SLR6 comes in at 16.0 lbs.
I bought two!! Trek bike at the Flea market in Washington DC....Trek Madone 4.1 red BLACK and White.. One Hundred Fifty bucks.....and Trek Madone 5.1 grey and black for also the same price..I bought the bikes 5 years apart still have them I love the Trek Madone 5.1 clv carbon....it has the triple Crank.... To tackled any road I want🤗⁉️...........I might switch parts to make one super bike☀️😅⁉️
Great colour, neat looking bike. Not sure about the claim of being their fastest "climbing" bike ever! Trek are making some cracking neat looking bikes though, thanks for the video happy peddling guys, stay safe all the best.
Regarding Treks comments about 'developing' the new OCL800 or whatever carbon over two years (similar to Specialized's claim) ... is it not more likely that Torray have put the work in and Trek are just using Torray's latest?
Hey im getting the sl5 and am worried if 56 would fit me ....i am just about 6 feet tall ...trek says 58 will fit , but people have said trek sizing always shows a size bigger ...as only 56 size is available i have ordered that ....would it fit me? i am just maybe a centimetre below 6 feet or touching 6 feet tall
This Trek uses a seatmast, not a seatpost. I asked a Trek dealer here in Brazil if it's possible to change and they told me Trek has different seatmast lenghts. I think there's no aftermarket options.
TCR all the way. You get a double sided powermeter on the pro models, and a lighter frame. Also for the average people 350w - 70kg rider. That's 5w/kg isn't really realistic imo.
I'd say it's no longer a pure climbing bike and more of an all rounder. I'd be more interested in the time saved coming off the Alp rather than going up it as its inconsequential as you'll need to be elite or pro to hold 350 watts anyway.
"I'd say it's no longer a pure climbing bike and more of an all rounder." Indeed, that's what was said in the video - and sounds like how the Trek-Segafredo team will be using it as well.
Very good project overall, but very disappointing the weight of OCLV500 frame, simply ridiculous that Trek has added almost 500g compared to the OCLV800 frame
@@andy_xtr3861 sure, next time you're going for a ride in a wind tunnel let me know. Also, I remember GCN did a video where they tested different gear (skinsuit, aero helmet, baggy clothes, etc) in a wind tunnel to figure out what was more aero. Iirc the difference between a bike from the 80s and a Pinarello F12 with deep section wheels was like 15W (this included the rider, who was in a more aero position on the Pinarello because it was his bike and had a more aggressive geometry/ position). So how much more aero do you think a new bike's going to be in comparison to last year's model? Its just marketing crap to sell you a new bike, which is fine, but it's kinda annoying how people actually believe it
“Fastest climbing bike ever” I think anyone who has a clue about physics would say that’s just marketing hype based on the 8.2kg weight. The aero statistics I would say are highly questionable too.
@@roadcc I'm with you on riders and team variables may affect outcome, but as they claimed that the SLR is their fastest climbing bike ever, the user of the bikes (esp. sponsored teams) needs to be able to prove that the claim is somehow true through results. Otherwise it's just gonna be another marketing gimmick
The new Emonda looks like an old Madone, because that is what it really is. Trek created this bike as an evolution of the old Madone which was a great bike except for its BB90, which had a slip fit bearing pressed directly into the frame. After some time the bearing seat wears down and causes creaks. Since there is no cup for the bearing, it is very difficult to get the bearing to stop moving. T47 in the new Emonda was designed to address this problem by a threaded BB, which allows for a bearing cup (which can be replaced) and different spindle sizes.
Saurabh Kulkarni let‘s be real. The claims of bike makers are absurd very often (7 watts faster at 50k or 90 seconds faster up Taiwan KOM at 350W... so 4+ hours at 350Watts that is). Nevertheless, if you only ride at 150W, is an aero bike really for you? Is a high end bike really for you? Maybe the lowest hanging fruit here is getting stronger on the bike.
@@yicheng1991 that's still disc-only and therefore pretty heavy now? Pretty ridiculous for Trek to release a 'KOM' bike which weight 6.7kgs where they had the same model a few years ago at 4.5kgs.
IF you have the money, and you like the hobby. Why not. Its like rich people taht cant drive buying ferraris. And to be honest, im a fat mediocre guy. 105kg. my max 15 min watt is 240W. I had a Trek domane SLR 6, ultegra DI2. Amazing bike and it was very fun =)
You know Trek are taking the piss out of thier customers when they wheel out a 2012 model, and slap disc breaks on it. Madone series 7 anyone?! Check it out!
Chris G while they may look similar, it also shows the advancements in tech since then. The frame is around 130g lighter, and fork + bar + stem add another 160g to the advantage of the new bike in addition. That is quite a bit of saving considering the new bike has fully integrated cabling, is more aerodynamic, and also Disc brake specific. It also goes to show, that the 2012 Madone Series 7 was a very good bike.
This bike was really easy to assemble ru-vid.comUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
Trek and other main brands only have a lifetime warranty for original purchaser if they really stood behind the bike it would have a lifetime warranty fullstop it would allow them to keep there value for longer.
If it is the "fastest climbing bike ever" does that mean it will be the bike that takes the Everesting record :-) I would say that the Cannondale...seems to have that "currently" oh wait...you mean it depends on the "engine" driving it up the hill...
@@mrnobodyplays147 i have a bike that is not a lightweight bike, has sram force and alloy wheels coming in at just under a kilo lighter than the emonda
Consumers would benefit mostly from lighter weight. So a heavier bike makes no sense, this is mostly marketing Mumbo Jumbo.... we won’t be riding at 40km/hr for an hour to enjoy the extra seconds of aero benefits.
Moan. 6.92kg bike is too heavy for a climbing bike. It’s a fat bike made for the team. My rim brake ‘17 Madone is a full pound lighter with pedals on. T47 is worth 0.25 lbs. ditch the disks.
Rubbish. They wanna make it aero and they slammed on the disc brakes???? Hahahahah Disc brakes really spoilt the look of the bicycles. it truly is the biggest gimmick in the history of bicycles. it is really sad.