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These are my honest thoughts about The Wheel of Time Season 2 Episode 8: What Was Meant To Be. This is a reaction and a review! I'll get into what I liked (The Good), what I didn't like (The Bad & Ugly), what I LOVED (The Great & Surprising) and some speculation about what's to come!
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@fantasyfanatic6038 9 месяцев назад

I can't believe it, they've actually done it! I've never been this emotional watching an episode of TV!

@KeeperoftheChronicles 9 месяцев назад

Right?! When Matt blew the horn and had his awakening… it touched my book reader soul in a way that television has never done! I loved it so much.

@sortof3337 9 месяцев назад

@@KeeperoftheChronicles Yes me too. I literally cried. I was so scared for him he might have to use the knife and didn't know they would do in the tv show. also it kinda of reminded me of the first time he chanted when they were raining down on trollocks in book 1 which wasn't in the s1. felt so good.

@markweedon5678 9 месяцев назад

Yup! "Dovie'andi se tovya sagain!!!" I didn't realise till nearly 30secs later that I had tears coming down my face. Like the first time seeing Moiraine channel while Lan was fighting the trolleys in S1, but 10 fold! Amazing!!!

@fantasyfanatic6038 9 месяцев назад

@@markweedon5678 One of the best scenes I’ve ever seen on TV. And the music… UGHHHHHH. Perfection!

@lanmandragoran8072 9 месяцев назад

Agreed, so great

@JustXavier 9 месяцев назад

I like that an Aielman runs this channel.

@patpierce4854 9 месяцев назад

😁😁😁

@joeysaks6516 9 месяцев назад

He has earned much Ji while we incur much Toh

@geraldtsunge67 9 месяцев назад

😂😂😂... this got me

@JustXavier 9 месяцев назад

@@joeysaks6516 lol 😆

@JustXavier 9 месяцев назад

@@geraldtsunge67 I'm glad. When the thought hit me I couldn't stop smiling 😊

@athomenotavailable 9 месяцев назад

I like how Loial's line on how the heroes of this age are responsible of the legends of tomorrow, suits very well with Moiraine's independent realization that she can't just hope that a banner will appear by itself, she can do it herself.

@GardeniaBlossoms_ 9 месяцев назад

Yes! Lanfear did hint for her to fly the banner when it’s time before they separated. That’s why I think it was able to click to easily when Moraine was in the moment.

@kr12a2y 9 месяцев назад

I saw it as a mirror of the Perrin line in The Shadow Rising at the battle of the Two Rivers where he tells Loial that he already is a hero.

@davidbai3543 9 месяцев назад

The actress playing moghedein was spot on and the way she weaves spider webs was so thematic. I got chills watching her.

@anydaynow01 9 месяцев назад

Agreed, they nailed it with her, can't wait to meet the other forsaken!

@thetwistable 9 месяцев назад

Absolute chills, the way she speaks, the way she threatens Lanfear!!! superb!!

@MrDarchangelomni 9 месяцев назад

Moghedian always seemed to me as someone who was older in the books, granted 3000 years, but where someone like lanfear might be 3300 years old, moghedian seemed more like 3700, like a plump old widow spider.

@jeffdelapena7932 9 месяцев назад

She's terrifyingly look strong

@kristinamariya0522 9 месяцев назад

Which also explains why Ishamael hands were dusty as he dust it off while speaking with Lady Suroth, he must've released the other forsaken that time.

@sVieira151 9 месяцев назад

Ishamael having dust on his hands paints this really funny image of Ishy just strongman snapping the Cuendillar by hand 😆

@knighthawk3749 9 месяцев назад

He had to break them by hand because while cuendillar seals were physically weakened by the Dark One's influence, they were still immune to One Power.

@Krakenjack1 9 месяцев назад

Doesn't Elayne figure out how to create Cuendillar at some point and other lost ancient secrets ?

@sVieira151 9 месяцев назад

@@Krakenjack1 yup, though the cuendillar is actually Eg, though I think it personally feels more like an Elayne skill.

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

@@Krakenjack1 Yep - this is why Elayne's "I like to thinker with things" line back when we first met her was such a great nod to future events. (Though she actually learns how to identify and, later, create ter'angreal -- it's Egwene who learns the lost secret of weaving cuendillar.)

@HowieStephens 9 месяцев назад

Iirc Eg's ability with cuendillar is partly because of her particular affinity with Earth weaves

@jawbreaker9240 9 месяцев назад

Lol the scene where Rand confronts Turak and his guards! I was like “yeasss we gonna see some heron sword on heron sword fightinggggg… and nope.” It was like that scene in Indiana Jones where the crazy guy with the two swords comes out swing his swords all around while screaming and Indy just caps his ass. I literally lol’d.

@allanjones1321 9 месяцев назад

Was predictable and foreshadowed by Liandrin/Nynaeve. Why fight physical or fair - fight to win. Makes total sense to blow them away with the power.

@user-qx4ip8tv8i 9 месяцев назад

Also it would have felt weird, Turak was a blademaster, and Rand barely knows how to hold a sword on the right side, so he just had to use the power imo.

@peopleschampiii584 9 месяцев назад

@@user-qx4ip8tv8i rand barely knows how to fight because rafe ignored the SM and wanted to make a different story than the books...

@carolbriscoe9337 9 месяцев назад

If Rand had pulled the sword and engaged Turak I'd have been disappointed in Rafe. There's been no scenes of Lan & Rand training. Such a scene would have felt so forced, it would have made the entire Episode feel false.

@user-qx4ip8tv8i 9 месяцев назад

@@hellgast0 Why dont you keep you negative comments to yourself. 1) Rafe is not making the story alone, why does it make you guys feel so great to attack people personally, did your mothers not teach you any manners, is this how you like to be treated?? 2) Sword training is coming, it's been confirmed in interviews, just the storyline didnt provide it this season. Why are y'all so hung up on having a page by page adaptation, how boring would that be?? The important plot points are there or coming, just maybe not in the order you expect, and after all Amazon is saying 8x8 (if all are greenlit), so to make 15 bloody volumes fit, there needs to be some adaptation, just use your brain a bit on whats feasible - how large a cast can you carry over 8 seasons, how many locations can you build per season etc etc. Geez.

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

I love how Lanfear is such a delicious character, that we're wondering if the woman who casually murders people by popping their heads like grapes to steal their horse, is "really" Dark deep down inside :D

@Krakenjack1 9 месяцев назад

What I gathered so far is that she is willing to go against the dark one to help Rand but everyone else is just a stepping stone or obstacle. She only cares for Rand or his counterpart since they shared many lives together.

@SandyFischler 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, she's just removing obstacles to getting what she wants in the most expedient manner at her disposal. I wouldn't consider her evil, just amoral. Somewhat like Ishy. Which is what makes for a good villain. He was a bad guy, but I was really sorry to see him go. @@Krakenjack1

@danielmoore9777 9 месяцев назад

She’s not a good person…the debate is just whether she is a literal devil worshiper or not.

@mywallet7367 9 месяцев назад

@@SandyFischlerdefinitely evil.

@alucard9119 9 месяцев назад

@@Krakenjack1🎯🎯🎯

@samueltusitala5361 9 месяцев назад

I also love how the whole time egwene was ‘freeing herself’, she was so fearless and knew what she was doing, yet we could see that so many emotions were going through her head. The fact that she had finally killed her sul’dam, she was free, rennas gory death, AND THAT SHE LITERALLY FELT DEATH TWO TIMES OVER. And the fact that she had no time to process, was knocked out, yet she had enough strength to weave together, and continuously weave back a shield strong enough to hold back Ishamael like…. I love egwene so much

@Marvette_h 3 месяца назад

She was so cool and strong

@wolfmanj12 2 месяца назад

It was stupid

@GabrielEduardo 9 месяцев назад

This was Mat’s episode when he blew the horn I cried a little. It was beautiful to see him shine

@padanfain7466 9 месяцев назад

When he said 'I remember', and stood up tall I was bouncing up and down.

@_Asha_man 9 месяцев назад

I cried a lot! hahaha and I didn't even liked Matt in the untill that moment

@padanfain7466 9 месяцев назад

haha yeah I was waiting for more bolts to fly too. Have Lan knocking them out of the air or something. @Vishal-hf1mw

@GabrielEduardo 9 месяцев назад

@Vishal-hf1mw OMG yes and lan took the arrow with his hand but he was only one i dont even remember how he died.

@fasheema1983 9 месяцев назад

I cried toooo

@AndyLuu72 9 месяцев назад

I cried for Hopper(it's so hard to see it on screen even if I had expected to see it). I teared up with Mat. I squealed in excitement with Moghedien!!!! Overall, it's great. I'm excited for season 3!

@belaswhicker2033 9 месяцев назад

I’m a fan who watched the first season, fell in love with the characters, then read the series, and am currently rereading the books. I’m a fan of both the show and the books. I am so, so happy with the second season. The finale was beyond amazing! Now I can get back to my reading.

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

You read _and are rereading_ the _entire_ series _between the first and second seasons?!_ Holy crap, you're one hell of a reader --- I'm currently on my third read and have been so for months now (... though, in fairness, I'm currently in the midst of the Path of Daggers/Winter's Heart/Crossroads of Twilight doldrums :P )

@SkolesakeniKrdsherad-ne7ln 9 месяцев назад

Enjoy your reeding! In another turning of the wheel we can meet and discuss the books over some spiced wine.

@bishopbblack 9 месяцев назад

I've been watching the episodes alone right when they drop, then re-watching again the next day with my husband. I told him he'd know the exact moment that Hopper died (he's also a book reader, though more casual than I am) even though he wasn't watching with me, because of how I was going to react. I was right. This episode did not let me down, I loved it, but I've been dreading that Hopper moment all season.

@peacekrelia 9 месяцев назад

OMG I have done the same. I watched the episodes as soon as they dropped and then later in the day with my husband. We are both big fans of the series and we think that they have done an amazing job. :)

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

Hopper's story really only started after the incident at Hawkwings Statue - so I'm looking forward to dream Hopper big time

@Apollo9898LP 9 месяцев назад

Few things: Totally agree on Nyneave, was so sad to see her basically reduced to a prop all episode, especially because she and Elayn weren't the ones to save Egwene. On the subject of Flicker-Flicker, i'm not a book reader yet but just given what I know about how they've reordered events in this show, I could see them having Flicker-Flicker happen later in the series at a moment where Rand is dealing more with the weight of being the dragon and the price of his potential failure, so that scene hits home a bit more. IMO from what i've heard about it, it seems like an easy scene to move somewhere else. Also just as a side note: as a show-only watcher, i really had no trouble believing that Moraine could do the channeling she did this episode. Moraine is very powerful, we saw that in season 1 during the battle in the two-rivers, and she was able to give her full attention to just channeling since Lan was protecting her. Imo that scene worked, at least for me it did.

@theorcaswereright 9 месяцев назад

Agreed. With the way they introduced Traveling in this episode, I wouldn't be surprised if we get Flicker Flicker next season.

@zv8381 9 месяцев назад

I am a non-booker reader and I felt the same way about Moraines channeling....I thought she was pretty powerful like in season 1 with the trollicks....I hope I spelled those right 😮

@MajorReynolds92 9 месяцев назад

Im a book reader and I think it was fine to have her channel this way, yes it could be argued that it's stretching disbelief even for what we know of the magic in both the books and the show but i think its sufficiently balanced out by the long cast time and Rosamund's physical delivery, we're visually being informed that this is a really big attack with a windup and probably necessitates a lot of concentration on her part to perform, like i genuinely think the average audience member will generally understand what's happening with her here

@royalpanther6391 9 месяцев назад

It is said on WOT wiki that Moiraine, Siuan, and some few other aes sedais are the strongest Aes sedais of the present era. Except ofcourse caduane but they all think she dead.

@gilian2587 9 месяцев назад

@@zv8381 Not knowing how to spell 'Trolloc' or 'Moiraine' when you've never read the books is perfectly understandable.

@alananimus9145 9 месяцев назад

The Traveling we see in this episode is how true power traveling happens.

@thetwistable 9 месяцев назад

thats a neat distinction...we havent really seen anyone travel yet...Lanfear brings Matt to Falme but we dont see the act, and them Moghedian just dissappears into a shadow, that HAS to be the true power...for those that dont know it is the power that stems from the dark one as opposed to the One Power, which they tried to bore into and released the Dark One

@GlueGunsRoses 9 месяцев назад

Wasn't it the same type of traveling with Lanfear & Rand in the ways? (Or is it spelled waze?) After she pushed Lan & moraine out the door didn't Lanfear instantly travel to the city with Rand?

@alananimus9145 9 месяцев назад

@@GlueGunsRoses yes it was the same Lanfear used in the ways. It's how true power Traveling works in the books (see last battle)

@gerbertron3226 9 месяцев назад

Doubt they’ll make the distinction in the show

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

@@gerbertron3226I think they're going to have to make the distinction: the portals created via "standard" Travelling, with the One Power, are actually a fairly major element of later story arcs --- whole armies are moved through them. Nightcrawler-style bamfing just wont' work with a lot of the future scenes. Also, I will just add... "DEATH GATES" :D

@jaysemitchells497 9 месяцев назад

sad we didn't see the Dragon Banner itself, but tears came to my eyes seeing that Dragon!

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

I do think we saw the dragon that will adorn the Dragon Banner - and it looked both fanciful and cool

@Arianrhod3 9 месяцев назад

Such a heartfelt honest reaction. Thank you for being you! Take the time you need to not burn yourself out. We will be here!

@raynerstuelgalid 9 месяцев назад

I got angry and got whiplash with the inconsistencies of the character of "good" guys in this series. A few examples: 1. Moiraine (and other Aei Sedai) was so weak that she struggled with some battling Trollocs, then had the immense power to sink a great sea armada from afar? Come on writers, define their powers: don't tune them up and down as plot conveniences. 2. What are the warders? Are they toy boys? Junior lieutenants? Glorified enamored puppies? Strong men with agencies? Part of management or drone workers? Writers could not really define them in two whole seasons. 3. The characters of the five main protagonists vacillate from being like sniffling and lost high school kids to physically great fighters to people with taser-like powers to heroes with visions of high clarity to being uncertain, bumbling and weak idiots. Writers, define your characters well!

@UnravelingthePattern 9 месяцев назад

I kind of agree with you, though your third comment could be said about the book characters too.

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

I'm glad you're on board with Rand's takedown of Turak reminded me of Logain S1E4 and felt appropriate to me - and I liked it when Rand asked Elayne her name - no Daughter-heir

@user-qx4ip8tv8i 9 месяцев назад

Oh yes, I am so happy about that, when she said "Elayne" and then they kept showing her face I was thinking if she says "the Daughter Heir of Andor" now I'm gonna bite my pillow apart 🥴🥴but luckily she did not 😅

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

yes thankfully she did not - I think it sets up their liaison better than the books (falls in Garden etc) but kept her healing him - and love Blossoms. the way they framed her face -

@teagan_p_999 9 месяцев назад

Ya that seemed like growth from Elayne, especially after she let Loial go on and on. A little bit of modesty.

@eqarigon 9 месяцев назад

They focused on the heron marked blade in the episode Rand meets the Amyriln seat. They did a quick focus on the sword hilt.

@carla8687 9 месяцев назад

Yes I noticed that too and I'm surprised this gentleman missed it

@Kyrbi0 9 месяцев назад

Noticed the same

@dammygold4138 9 месяцев назад

I thought they always hinted at it too 🤷🏽‍♀️

@Kyles_Money 9 месяцев назад

Yep.

@lizmac739 9 месяцев назад

I thought I saw 2 herons together on the part of the strap for the sheath that is on Rands chest.

@kashbrown2898 9 месяцев назад

This episode was so amazing!!!! I was crying happy tears. What a great show!

@kbachelder 9 месяцев назад

Non book reader here...your videos (reactions, unraveleds, WOT 101, etc.) have helped to make me an even BIGGER fan of the show than I would have been if I was only watching the episodes. Your passion for the books and this world is infectious! I'm looking forward to all of your future videos. They are a great way to fill the time between seasons of the show. When I do a rewatch I always include watching your unraveled videos after each episode so I can get a deeper understanding of what's going on and what I may have missed. As a content creator around a TV show myself, I know how much time is needed to create timely content while the show is releasing episodes so please know how much all of your hard work is appreciated. Thank you again!!

@MajorReynolds92 9 месяцев назад

Before i consume this video, i want to take a moment and just absolutely simp for that moghedien scene, that delivery had such adorable psycho vibes and i loved every moment of it, im so looking forward to that actress's performance in season 3 Edit: i also very much liked how Mat dealt with the dagger, and from the writers perspective it's a perfect excuse for a precursor wespon to his Ashandarei; they're also doing a good job so far of having the Aiel veil their faces for killing

@Heidelmann 9 месяцев назад

The attention to detail when wrapping the dagger to the staff was interesting. Mat never touched the hilt even with 1 layer of cloth on it. At least from how it was edited

@bjokerud 9 месяцев назад

Moghedian was epic!

@YZedMB 9 месяцев назад

I'm worried that this IS the Ashandarei...I use to tie knives to sticks when I was 10. It didn't hold up to stabbing mattresses.... Agree on Moghedien,. With her and Lanfear, I'm not sure I can resist the Dark.

@SkolesakeniKrdsherad-ne7ln 9 месяцев назад

Ya same! Trying to tie anything to whatever doesn't really work in the long run... So that was a WEIRD solution. How they solved the dagger was a bit weird to, imo... ANYWAY, don't forget, Graendael was named earlier in the show. The "vessel of pleasure". Absolutely loved Ishamael to. So I'm more or less already a dark friend. It all comes down to who "the boys" are, and how they solve Mazrim Taim. If they do that right, I'll convert.@@YZedMB

@HowieStephens 9 месяцев назад

@@YZedMBI think it's more likely this is like a foreshadowing of the actual ashandarei, so when he gets it, viewers will go "Ohhhh like when he made that one with the dagger 😮"

@robbimcmillen6986 9 месяцев назад

We cried our eyes out seeing Hoper die! Thanks for explaining the many bits we were confused about ❤

@rouge6200 9 месяцев назад

I ugly cried in the Moiraine and Lan bond scene and mat blowing the horn. This episode was insane. My only criticism is the lack of Rand and Nyneave agency.

@SandyFischler 9 месяцев назад

I think they're letting each of the major characters pull focus so that the audience builds a relationship with them. This season was super heavy on Egwene and letting us see her be forged into who she will become. We finally got a glimpse of Mat and how his story is about to start developing. I'm laying odds that Aiel and Aviendha are very significant in Season 3. Rand is still a bystander in the story so far, it's all happening TO him, he's not driving the story as the Dragon leading to the Last Battle....yet.

@goblincavecrafting 9 месяцев назад

Me too! (with Lan and Moiraine’s scene). Their deep, platonic friendship means a lot to me, and I’m so glad to see that finally expressed again after so much… uh… turmoil, shall we say?!

@chicagodino 9 месяцев назад

I cried when Hopoer was killed and cheered when Perrin picked up the axe.

@tarisedai9573 9 месяцев назад

It's funny because I feel the opposite to you with the Snakes and Foxes thing. I think they're foreshadowing it rather than trying to write around it. I feel MORE confident it is going to happen. That being said, I think we'll only get ONE trip through a doorway, not two. I also think they foreshadowed it with the Mushroom Trip Tea - seeing Mat hanging framed by what looks like a red doorway .. I'm hopeful lol.

@questionsroxelane3643 9 месяцев назад

I also believe we'll have only 1 arch, though I dunno if it means only either the Fox or the Snakes or both at once.

@shauntempley9757 9 месяцев назад

Well should get one doorway, and one tower trip, where he meets both of them. That doorway trip has to be in Rhuidean. It is one of the places like Falme here. It is the third of three key locations in the prophecies, and the only one of the three described, not named. @@questionsroxelane3643

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

Gday - Sindhol or Otherland is a great homage to earlier stories, myths and legends - it would be a shame if it isn't included

@SkolesakeniKrdsherad-ne7ln 9 месяцев назад

We can always hope! The Snakes and Foxes, and everything around that, is maybe my favourite thing from the books. Possibly beaten the wolves and everything with that. With the Snakes and Foxes comes the Tower of Ghenjei too. But I fear they messed that up with making a certain aes sedai useless once already. And I can't think of that without being angered by HOW they named an episode Daes Dae'Mar without bringing back Thom!

@maddiebarrow5876 9 месяцев назад

Yes! We also had Mat missing an eye in Nynaeve's accepted vision, which I hope is foreshadowing rather than just a nod to the books. Agree that they could wrap it into a combined trip for the show

@jaysemitchells497 9 месяцев назад

Knowing that they filmed s2&s3 back to back I think making Nynaeve useless was on purpose, considering the Moghidiene ending. This season she grew to understand why she would want to learn from Aes Sedai + respect them, hopefully setting up some cool s3 stuff

@Saa_la 9 месяцев назад

Exactly my thoughts! And it gives the spotlight to Elayne (which we needed) and Egwene.

@carolbriscoe9337 9 месяцев назад

I think the sacrifice Ryma & her warder made to keep Elayne & Nynaeve safe from the suldame made a deep impression on Nynaeve. That and being told by Elayne that her methods were useless has made Nynaeve question herself. I'm sure she will bounce back & be her assertive self, but at this moment she's shaken.

@pete4096 9 месяцев назад

That's a really great idea. Thanks for putting it into perspective for me!

@proteuswest1084 9 месяцев назад

I also think it's very intentional. What she went through this season is overlooked and overshadowed by what we saw with Egwene. She lost a child, the person she confided in was Black Ajah and kidnapped her, and her inability to control the One Power led to Ryma's capture. She really hasn't been the same since her Accepted test. She had periods of time where she went through this type of stuff in the books, but I think a future confrontation may just break her out of her lack of confidence. :)

@Saa_la 9 месяцев назад

@@proteuswest1084 very well put. Now that you mention it, it only makes sense!

@michaelpecoraro486 9 месяцев назад

My theory is that Mat will have lost his "hero" memories when the other Heroes vanished, and wanting them back, asking for them to be filled in, will be part of the deal with the Foxes.

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

snap - jinx - that's what I thought - ah well WAFO lol

@Kattleyah 9 месяцев назад

By now I wonder if we even get them 😢

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

No. I'm confident that they have fully warped Mat's storyline past Rhuidean: He has his ashanderei, he has his skill with it, and he has his memories of past lives. Mat might still accompany Rand to Rhuidean, but I bet they moved all of Mat's stuff to now so they could spend that sequence focusing on Rand and the secrets he learns about the Aiel. I also do not think we will see the snakes and foxes in the show: Much like flicker-flicker, they're an easily "compartmentalized" plot that be safely removed without much affecting the larger story, and with so much story to tell, the writers are going to be looking for every opportunity to cut things.

@TheBeccabus 9 месяцев назад

I love this theory!!

@SkolesakeniKrdsherad-ne7ln 9 месяцев назад

I don't know. The complexity of the story with the snakes and foxes is difficult to capture on screen. It's not only Mat getting his memories and all back. The Tower of Ghenjei is linked to as well. I'm afraid the Snakes and Foxes will fall victim to "kill your darlings" to fit other more important and screen friendly things. But maybe there is a way to compress it! That might be. I hope they do Rhuidean right instead, but I can see them skip that as well..

@rainbowultra895 9 месяцев назад

Just want to say I really appreciate your positive outlook on the show. I am just so overjoyed that wheel of time finally got picked up and has a show. Yes it would be awesome for it to all be just as long and exactly like the books but we have to be happy with what we get and keep a positive outlook. And you, my friend, are doing that. And It's very refreshing coming from many of the other videos and comments that I've seen. I just hope everyone shows the show continued support so we will get a full series and no cancelations. That the scariest thing for me. So once again, thanks my man!

@justinsui4201 9 месяцев назад

I cried when mat sounded the horn, I cried when hopper died, this was such an emotional episode

9 месяцев назад

Same! 😭

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

I literally rolled my eyes when Mat said, “I remember!” I don’t think they could have shoved that into the story in a cheesier way. It felt on par with a CW series (and not a very good one). 🙄

@justinsui4201 9 месяцев назад

@@KnittyElf I'm a big fan of the CW Flash... so you can say I have very low standards

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

@@justinsui4201 lol

@pauljones33 9 месяцев назад

I never read the books and I truly enjoyed the show. I come here to understand some things from the shows and it gives me more than I would find. I believe people who read the books should always take a chill pills and just enjoy the adaptations in every show/movie they watch.

@Saa_la 9 месяцев назад

I feel like they're judging the adaptation rather than the show. As a book reader, I loved the show :)

@pauljones33 9 месяцев назад

@@Saa_la I agree and unfortunately most shows/movies are judged based on the books like the accuracy of it while I may agree to some of it based on the type of book but I always like to enjoy the show from the actors/actresses, special FX and scripts.

@phillylady 9 месяцев назад

I’m on book 5, and I must say there are tons I prefer with the adaptation. Actually like a lot of the main characters more than I do in the book.

@user-qx4ip8tv8i 9 месяцев назад

Masema was named in the Credits before - I hope he will be become what he is supposed to become 😁😁

@Saa_la 9 месяцев назад

They named him in the show too, and in the subtitles.

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

Did you see the look on his face when he beheld the Dragon bannered 'cross the sky in fire? He's gonna become what he's supposed to become :)

@idjles 9 месяцев назад

Perrin says “Masema “

@user-qx4ip8tv8i 9 месяцев назад

@@eunomiac Rewatched it and you are right, I didnt notice this in first round, but now I am hopeful 🤗

@Cristinas_watching 9 месяцев назад

Lauren, thanks for all that you do!! I’ve learned a lot here these past couple of seasons and rewatching videos as I read the books has been a bonus. Please don’t burn out! We have plenty of time during hiatus to unravel/discuss and theorize.

@Pysees868 9 месяцев назад

I really like your assessment of Nyneave. I do you instroduce in S1 as this great channler, full of raw power. To not knowing how to pull an arrow out of Elayne's leg?! It really felt they were clueless about what to do with her. Matt blowing the horn was sweeeet. I cheered like he score the winning basket. That run into battle, I wanted to join them 😄

@teagan_p_999 9 месяцев назад

Honestly yeah. Every TV show knows that you at least have to break the fletching off before you push it through...

@annmurphy2605 9 месяцев назад

My take was that Nyneave was pretty traumatized by her actions torturing the Suldame and then watching and feeling her die. It seemed like Nyneave was a bit shell shocked and unable to act for that reason.

@mcina001 9 месяцев назад

Wow Lauren. Almost at 35k. Congrat’s my friend! Well-deserved channel growth. OMG Hopper. 😭 😭 😭 That one shot with Hopper on the ground bleeding giving Perrin puppy-eyes, and then of Hopper soaring toward T’A’R. Oh man. I was watching a reaction video today, and my wife and daughter heard me sniffle. My wife said, “Hopper again?” 🤣

@feralart 9 месяцев назад

So satisfying! Though it hurt to see Hopper die, even though we knew it was coming. And Birgitte! We got Birgitte!

@tigraine5714 9 месяцев назад

I looked but did not find Birgitte in the credits. I certainly saw someone who looked like her.

@rhysfriesen 9 месяцев назад

@tigraine5714 that was definitely her next to Uno. I'm curious if they've actually cast her yet or if that was just a place holder actor in the mean time. I remember not expecting to see her again after reading the Great Hunt, it was a delightful surprise. Maybe the show is planning to pull off the same kind of surprise by not making a big deal of her in this episode.

@funkehfunkeh 9 месяцев назад

Yes but also spoilers

@Dondingo4 9 месяцев назад

@@rhysfriesen Definitely an extra in a bad wig for this episode, lol.

@rhysfriesen 9 месяцев назад

@@Dondingo4 hehe yes indeed. That hair was a bit shit :)

@lc7894 4 месяца назад

As a fan who started with the show (currently reading the books), it's so refreshing to hear such a dedicated primarily book fan as you talk positively about the show and give us some insights from the lore etc. I feel like all the book readers hating on the show are just pushing show-people away from reading the books and creating this sort of big conflict instead of everyone just celebrating that universe. I'm so happy you (& others of course) understand the adaptation can't be a perfect replica of the books and the writers are doing so many amazing things, including in the changes they chose to do. Thank you for all your work 🙏

@ebenhopwil1886 9 месяцев назад

I thought the episode was excellent. The stakes were so high from beginning to end. I totally teared up when Mat blew the horn. And I think we will still see the snakes and foxes.

@UnravelingthePattern 9 месяцев назад

Agreed!

@MrHulaine 9 месяцев назад

Not watched this video so I'll update it I've missed something, but I got the impression from the episode that the horn gave Mat his memories (cus of the whole yelling in old tongue), so not sure a) why they'd need snakes and foxes, and b) why they'd change how Mat got his memories if they plan on doing snakes and foxes anyway

@bobbob-mr3jc 9 месяцев назад

@@MrHulaine I don't think we will. Because they already gave his spear

@obsidian7644 9 месяцев назад

It got me too didn't expect it at all...they killed it best episode of the series.

@darkhoundslobber2028 9 месяцев назад

@@bobbob-mr3jcNo way Mat keeps using the 'Shadar Logoth dagger on a stick' as a weapon. That would be ridiculous, IMO. He'll have to get a proper ashanderei later in the show, methinks.

@Antares_451 9 месяцев назад

Nice review. Thank you.. As a none reader of the books, i was overcome with joy when Eugene got free. When she faced down Ishamael that was also 🔥.. Im so ready for season 3

@hahaimout1693 9 месяцев назад

Perrin going full John Wick berserk on Bornhald was PEAK satisfaction

@nickjunes 9 месяцев назад

I actually liked how Rand killed all those guys with the one power. I think he didn't get enough sword training yet to win a duel and it would have been silly for him to win a sword fight against an actual master. This also showed how much stronger it is to fight with the one power.

@HB-zt1ed 9 месяцев назад

but now I want to see Lan training him in sword fighting ... every damn episode of the next season !!

@sortof3337 9 месяцев назад

yup i also like rand using the power moment, it showed how powerful dragon is compared to others. also when in the begining poor shamael was threatening with his friends, lews was like i already got em and shamael was like please. not from the book, but it was excellent moment. they did a fine job i think, if they tried to emulate book, they would've had to do 23 episodes in each season i would've loved it but quality wouldn't have been there.

@grahamtpeterson 9 месяцев назад

@@HB-zt1ed We haven't gotten much Mad Rand yet. Maybe they're going to tie the sword training to fighting off madness... Plus he needs a new sword. Still not sure how a source heated iron sword, rather than Callandor, could turn a forsaken to dust.

@svenkropelinrieger1688 9 месяцев назад

@@grahamtpetersonNot we nor maybe Rand did know, what he channeld through (?) the sword. PS: Sorry, no native speaker

@grahamtpeterson 9 месяцев назад

@@svenkropelinrieger1688 True, they didn't explain his channeling or why Ishamael just stood there. Guessing they combined the fights from book two and book three for time. Rand definitely needs training that is shown on screen to help the audience understand what he is and isn't capable of. If for no other reason than helping the audience tell when he is getting more proficient at it. In general the fighting and magic systems feel super inconsistent in the show. Ie the dagger, which seemed to have similar effects as Rand's sword at the end, even though Matt doesn't channel.

@ColdCaseChronicles. 9 месяцев назад

They did Ingtar dirty! His redemption was so poignant in the books. Since they screwed him I will say it here: May you shelter in the palm of the Creator's hand, and may the last embrace of the mother welcome you home. I felt his redemption was so Important to Rand, it showed him that yes you can come back to the light.

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

true re Ingtars importance to Rand - at least he said "one man could hold 50 here" which I enjoyed

@bryansuminski7543 8 месяцев назад

@wotoholicaussie5086 and then died to fewer then 10

@wotoholicaussie5086 8 месяцев назад

@@bryansuminski7543 but surely it is the sentiment that counts not the "fewer than ten" cited

@bryansuminski7543 8 месяцев назад

@wotoholicaussie5086 it's a sentiment that doesn't mean anything. That line was only for book readers, but why would any of them even care when his story was completely nonexistent?

@wotoholicaussie5086 8 месяцев назад

@@bryansuminski7543 that's not relevant but thanks

@drlufly 9 месяцев назад

Lanfear already betrayed Ishy in episode 5, when she told Liandrie that "there are many paths to walk through the night", indicating that Liandrian should work for her instead of Ishy.

@devlin76 9 месяцев назад

And in the finale Ishamael says the same line to Padan Fain about Lanfear.

@Jrdn357 9 месяцев назад

I loved it. The only thing I really didn't like was how Egwene single-handedly kicked Ishamael's ass. She shouldn't have stood a chance against the weakest of the 13. It should have been Rand holding him back to protect his friends. I adore the episode as a whole, but that completely took me out of it, I actually laughed out loud. It just makes no sense to me, Rand is the only person on earth who could match him other than Rahvin, who I assume has been cut from the show.

@86617636 9 месяцев назад

100% agreed with you thoughts about Rand. Rand spent more time on his knees being shielded in the last two episodes than fighting anyone.

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

Yes. I was really hoping for a strong end to season 2, but I ended up rolling my eyes over and over. The worst was Mat’s “I remember!” line that was so cheesy and anticlimactic.

@Jrdn357 9 месяцев назад

@@KnittyElf I disagree, I thought the finale was fantastic except for Egwene somehow beating Ishamael. Mat's moments were the best, he really got to shine this episode, especially in that scene with the Heroes.. This finale was way better than season 1.

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

@@Jrdn357 I agree it was better than the season finale, but that’s because the season one finale was a 2/10 and this was a 4-5/10. Even ignoring the books, the writing for this episode was mediocre at best. It’s a real shame because that fantastic Egwene damane episode showed that they’re capable of better.

@Jrdn357 9 месяцев назад

@@KnittyElf I completely disagree, I thought everything was great except for Egwene beating Ishy when it should have been Rand. You seem to be in the vast minority if you think this episode was bad, the whole Battle of Falme was awesome, especially Mat with the Heroes.

@srely3786 9 месяцев назад

You had an amazing breakdown and review of this finale episode! Better than any other I have watched yet! You mentioned Masema and that was a detail I never noticed and was not mentioned by anyone else I have watched do a review on this episode as yet. Thank you for your excellent work! ❤❤

@dragonmag170 9 месяцев назад

Mat literally makes a spear that he then uses to magic his way out of a door I think that's confirmation enough that we will see the Finns

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

I think the opposite is true: They've time-warped Mat's plot _past_ his encounter with the snakes and foxes: He has his ashanderei, and he has his memories of past lives. The snakes and foxes are an easily-compartmentalized plot that can be cut from the show without greatly affecting the overall story, and with so much story to tell, I doubt the show-writers would have removed the _need_ for Mat to meet the snakes & foxes, only to include them anyways. Moiraine is the only other character to really be involved in the snakes & foxes arc, and I very much doubt the show is going to remove Rosamund Pike from the show for six seasons like they did in the books :P

@schwarz9199 9 месяцев назад

The fact they made his spear from a random stick and the dagger from Shadar Logath is so f’ed up a stupid to me.

@nigeldogg 9 месяцев назад

Season 2 much better than Season 1… hopefully they build on this and 3 is best yet 👏

@zyonhenderson67 9 месяцев назад

FR! So glad they changed the freaking directors. This was such a great episode and tied so many things together. The structure was a bit off but other than that it was 10/10!

@JinxedMagician 9 месяцев назад

I want a porno between egween nevyeen n Perrin In the next season. That will be a good twist n a great change from the novels.

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

The show is following the paths of the books in terms of quality: Book 1 was always a bit derivative; Book 2 was a _huge_ step up, and the quality kept increasing through to at least (in my opinion) Book 6 (which is my personal favourite, though I believe most people hold Book 4 as the best... which, coincidentally, is what season 3 will be adapting :) )

@zyonhenderson67 9 месяцев назад

@@eunomiac You didnt love Lord of Choas? Kneel or Be Knelt?

@eunomiac 9 месяцев назад

@@zyonhenderson67Huh-what? Lord of Chaos is book 6, which I said was my favourite of the series, particularly because of Dumai's Wells. ("Asha'man! _KILL!"_ )

@stevegillan 9 месяцев назад

I liked how you could see a difference in the fighting ability when Lan was bonded versus earlier in the season when he wasn't. Straight up catching arrows aimed at Moraine. As someone that read the books there is that boost when bonded. I am not sure that was how it was intended to come across, but that's how I took it to make up for the earlier stuff with him this season.

@dustinjones1907 9 месяцев назад

I just discovered your channel after watching the season 2 finale. Ive never read the books, having never even heard of them prior to the release of season 1, i just watched cause i love fantasy. But this 2nd season has made me decide to pick up the books. I also just want to commend you on your extremely realistic expectation of a tv adaptation of your favorite books. Your self awareness of why you feel disappointed and also understanding that your hopes and dreams can NEVER be realised on-screen is an absolute breath of fresh air. The fantasy community has such a bad habit of crapping all over everything and constantly criticizing instead of appreciating these adaptations for what they are. So, thank you!

@goblincavecrafting 9 месяцев назад

I love love *love* how fair and measured you are, even hot off the tail end of watching an emotionally charged episode like the finale. Your balance and level-headedness in critiquing and appreciating the immense task the show runners have had before them has helped me be more measured in my reactions to the show. I didn’t like an awful lot of how they handled things, both from a basic story-telling point of view and from an adaptation point of view, but I’ve been able to enjoy what I *did* enjoy *more* because of measured and respectful responses like yours. Anyway, take your time, and I look forward to hearing all your thoughts on this when you’ve caught your breath and had a well-deserved break. Thanks for all you’ve given us so far!!

@trumanb4758 9 месяцев назад

15:15 Couldn't agree more. When Mat said that he remembered who he was, my heart sank. for the very same reason, it looks like they've sidestepped the snakes and foxes. Still, also like you, I teared up, mainly out of relief that Mat's character remained somewhat intact after they did him so dirty. :)

@iChuckT 9 месяцев назад

Been waiting for the real Matt to show up. I was like, there’s my boy! 💪🏽

@greenlit802 9 месяцев назад

Compared to Amazons Ring of Power this is a master piece. And Moghedian was quite good. I liked her. I wish they would do 12 episodes next season.

@MarijuanaPaint 9 месяцев назад

That's not how people felt about the first season of WoT. I'm keeping my fingers crossed they can treat RoP in a similar fashion and turn the ship around the way they have with WoT.

@lauravarga7336 7 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for these reviews since i just found the show and loved binging it! And random comment, your hair (color and style) is GORGEOUS!!

@WheelUpTime 9 месяцев назад

I kept crying and crying then wiped my eyes and BAM they do something else im crying again. It was so fucking good. THE WHEEL OF MOFUCKIN TIME YALL.

@rhysfriesen 9 месяцев назад

It was Mat getting his polearm, for me. As soon as I saw him grab that pole I broke down. Donal Finn is CRUSHING it!!

@WheelUpTime 9 месяцев назад

when he had his moment of realisation and said "i remember" was the first breaking point for me! we have been blessed by donal. I was a barney stan from before season 1 but donal absolutely delivered everything possible@@rhysfriesen

@peopleschampiii584 9 месяцев назад

😂😂😂 that episode was garbage. Grow up

@rhysfriesen 9 месяцев назад

@WheelUpTime Barney was superb as troubled Mat. I remember seeing the possibility of him delivering full charisma Mat but Donal has the natural sparkle in his eyes and grin. I hope he'll get his hat in the show!

@leewang2902 9 месяцев назад

@@peopleschampiii584 I thought I was the only one thinking this episode is not good. They tried to tell too much in one episode resulting a chaotic storytelling and lame fighting scenes and weak endings for characters.

@DOLLOFDECORDIARIES 9 месяцев назад

I finally got the box set of the first 3 books😊You deserve all the support so excited to see where your channel goes💘 I

@threekats7610 9 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for this video! Watched you right after the show…I hope we don’t have to wait to long for season 3 😁

@UnravelingthePattern 9 месяцев назад

I hope so too!

@tatil8243 9 месяцев назад

I loved this recap! First one I watched on this channel :) I really like when you point out cinematic aspects as well, it makes me think back to the episode myself and see it through a different lense. On the point of Rand not having enough heroic moments: I agree, but I also think it's smart to give more of them to Egwene and Nyneave. We all know that as the dragon Rand will become the most impressive channeled of the bunch and I enjoy that the dynamic between the male and female side is building and slowly changing. Also love the girl power moments, ngl! Egwene freeing herself was such a good change and Rand recognizing that reminds the audience that he has respect for them. And in a world where he will outdo her in terms of power soon, that initial respect is important for his character.

@flemeth1010 9 месяцев назад

Take all the time you need, your videos are amazing, this is the reason why, I think, your channel is picking up rather than RU-vid algorithm. It doesn't matter how long we'll have to wait for more content, what matters is you have never disappointed. Thanks for your work and dedication :)

@donnahylton6931 9 месяцев назад

There was just no time for foxes and snakes in the season. I did not mind the way he regained his memories, it gave time for more exciting things to happen. This was satisfying to me. I only hope season 3 continues the quality and flow. I expect it is too late for 10 or 12 episodes to be made in season 3 and we watchers want more!

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

I found Mat’s “I remember!” line and most of that entire scene to be so cheesy. I literally rolled my eyes at it.

@Saa_la 9 месяцев назад

@@KnittyElf I think it was actually one the best lines of the episodes, delivered so well by Mat's actor.

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

@@Saa_la I have no issue with the actor, but the line itself felt incredibly forced. Mat wonders if he’s as bad as other people say he is for basically two full seasons. Then he blows the horn and suddenly is like, “Oh, I remember! I’m a hero of the horn! I’m good!” It felt as cheesy as that similar scene with Gandalf in The Rings of Power. To each their own, though, I guess. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Saa_la 9 месяцев назад

@@KnittyElf It's okay if the scene didn't work for you! To be honest, it could have been set up much better. Definitely worked for me though!

@ladyms7840 9 месяцев назад

I did love this. Hopper broke me. I cried out at the scream and kept crying minutes after the scene. I knew it would come but perrin in trouble snd knowing he would save him and the eyes, I died. But everyone acted wonderfully and the bond coming back was beautiful. All the weaves were great in this. S3 needs to comes snd be 10 episodes!

@sortof3337 9 месяцев назад

yup. esp as animal lover and book lover where they make special connection :( it's been a long time since wolf and men hunted together.

@bjokerud 9 месяцев назад

Good bro! Not many knows how much time and energy it takes to make these videoes. So keep it up! It's appreciated and inspirational. A thing I struggle with is the problems they keep giving themselves that requires screen time to fix. Moiraines "stilling" being the biggest. And also how they have the AUDACITY to tamper with the source material. Egwene healing a cindered Nynaeve in S1, and now fends of Ishamael until Perrin appears with a magic Uno shield. I mean wtf? They do so much right, but when they get it wrong OH BOY do they get it wrong

@GentleGiantJason 9 месяцев назад

In season two Rand’s sword has had a heron on the hilt. We’ve seen it before. Not sure if it was pointed out. I thought Rand got the burn from the one on the hilt.

@judysonnenberg6237 9 месяцев назад

He did get branded by the heron on the hilt. Lauren just hadn't seen the heron there; only on the blade and the scabbard.

@Heidelmann 9 месяцев назад

So both hands are indeed branded.

@gokbay3057 9 месяцев назад

@@judysonnenberg6237 I am pretty sure his hand got branded by the heron on the blade. It is on his right hand, and he was holding the blade with that hand.

@Zaberella 9 месяцев назад

Nynaeve's arc started off so strong this season and then it fizzled out in the end.

@dolareastar 9 месяцев назад

👏🏻 we have so much to talk about, thanks for all your S2 content so far.

@katbeatriz1362 9 месяцев назад

Love your videos. Thank you for taking the time to bring out a video so soon after the episode!

@anantc88 9 месяцев назад

I am so glad when Matt uses his wits to outsmart Padan Fain and puts his dagger on a stick. 😄😄 It's different from the book but I still liked it, and then Matt blowing the horn was just icing on cake!! The bad - Rand barely uses the sword forms and Ishy just stands there when he stabs him. Like, WTF?

@azeezatazeezzz 9 месяцев назад

I'd say ishy was just standing there because he actually WANTED Rand to stab him. He didn't want to live anymore anyway, and it's been like that for years. Thats why he said he found it beautiful to 'see nothing' after he was stabbed (indicating his long awaited death )

@anantc88 9 месяцев назад

@@azeezatazeezzz So explain me then what's with trying to gentle Rand or killing Rand and turning his friends to the dark? If Ishy had a death wish, he could just ask LanFear to do it for him. Besides, going by the lore, either it's the wheel or the dark one, Ishy will be revived again. So what's the point in seeking death? Rand, for now, doesn't know how to use balefire.

@azeezatazeezzz 9 месяцев назад

@@anantc88 revenge possibly. Rand being permanently cut off from the one power will be synonymous to him loosing a large part of himself and he'll feel in a 'almost alive almost dead state', and feel what ishameal felt but in a different version.

@trmartin6821 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for your informative reviews. I can tell that you're a genuine fan of the books and I appreciate your diplomacy while being critical of the show.

@linasuppa5887 9 месяцев назад

Love your content, please take your time at a pace that works for you, we'll all be here for it!!!

@ICE-je9cz 9 месяцев назад

The best part about watching the episode was being able to tune into your video about it! Keep up the fun and informative content! Thank you!

@neilcline1771 9 месяцев назад

I really do love the moments that are pure fan service to us book readers. Nynaeve saying “you’ll curse the day your mother first kissed your father,” and Mat giving the “it’s time to roll the dice” battle cry in the old tongue were both super awesome to watch.

@Charmedsas1 9 месяцев назад

It was Phenomenal!!!! OMG i was like this is the books but different, i was screaming, this was so freaking good!

@TG-Maverick22 6 месяцев назад

I am so glad that i found your channel. Your reviews and explainers are simply amazing. You are a true book fan. Please keep these videos coming. 10/10

@UnravelingthePattern 6 месяцев назад

Thank you! I've taken a bit of a break but plan on getting back to it in the new year!

@lccsw8001 8 месяцев назад

I love your work it explains so much and it helps as the show goes thank you 😊

@OlversEars 9 месяцев назад

Nice Lauren, I'm thinking Mat goes through only one door at this point. M had lots of research time to pick up on the past and prophesies. Flying dragon worked for me. Eggy killed it this Ep.

@elijahdb4244 9 месяцев назад

I think they are doing the best with what they have, yes in the final episode their were some points where Nynaeve could have stepped in and reinforced the shield or she could have done some healing. However, I did like the aspect that no one really understands the prophesies because so much time has past, they have become twisted and changed like when the dragon was supposed to proclaim himself yet it was actually someone else for him. Probably could have done with two more episodes but I still really enjoyed.

@j_kahn 9 месяцев назад

You give the absolute best reviews, analysis, deep dives, etc on this epic saga. Take care of yourself first, it’s so important. You are very appreciated!!! ❤❤❤

@davidgregory7564 9 месяцев назад

Glad to support your channel! Awesome season of RJs work.

@lunacascade1125 9 месяцев назад

I've been lurking your channel for a while. First time commenting and plan to join your channel and Patreon. Your reviews have increased the Love I have for This show!!! Thank you so much!. This episode is full speed ahead from the first minutes. IE!!! Not ashamed to say I CRIED😢

@zv8381 9 месяцев назад

I cried several times this episode....for hopper....for Matt...for Uno. I am glad I've never read the books... The expectations of the book readers are sometimes a bit much. It's an adaptation. I appreciate this channel because it is not negative.. Keep the reviews coming. ❤ Sit back and enjoy.

@fardareismai4495 9 месяцев назад

I totally get that, and honestly, you cried at all the same points I as a book fan did, so the same beats hit!

@nicodemus109 9 месяцев назад

Will you read the books? Don't know how to translate this from Swedish to English, but did the show give you a "bloodied tooth" to read the books? Bloodied tooth meaning - are you ready to learn/experience more.

@zv8381 9 месяцев назад

@nicodemus109 I'm sort of afraid 😨. Maybe AFTER the TV series. The story seems like it is well-written, and I am sure the books are stellar.

@Lukas-ht9xm 9 месяцев назад

@@zv8381 afraid because you think watching the show will be worse when you know the books? because if so i think you have nothing to worry about. you already have the right mindset, this is an adaptation. I've seen a lot of really negative reviews from book readers, and it always baffles me too. The books are incredibly deep, Jordan's writing is extremely descriptive, to an absurd degree sometimes. In one book he uses almost a full page to describe a dress which then is never mentioned again. Point being, i dont understand what some of these people expect, there's no possible way to include everything and since some things get completely cut, that means other things have to be altered. Anyway, as long as you keep the same mindset, I would 100% recommend reading them. After the show would mean in like 10 years. If nothing else read books 1 and 2, then you'll just be caught up and can still watch the show without having stupidly high expectations.

@nicodemus109 9 месяцев назад

@@zv8381 That is probably the best approach. The books are good, really really good actually. I've read and listened to them several times in both English and Swedish. The show is an adaptation so it is very different and I like it, but the books are just in a different league. Do enjoy when you get there :)

@walrusrider8993 9 месяцев назад

I love how much effort you put into these videos, I think its so impressive and adore the effort you put into them with details about the books contrasted with the show.

@markjusay4120 9 месяцев назад

Like I said on your previous video, this channel is the best at what it does. We'll continue supporting you and wait for your upcoming videos. In addition, You were quite on point with your predictions about episode 8 trailer. This season was certainly a lot better than the previous one. Though upon rewatching season 1, I quite enjoyed it a lot more compared to before. Also, excited seeing Nynaeve's rival arriving at the end of the episode. I'll be expecting a lot more from the next season.

@obsidian.... 9 месяцев назад

Such an amazing season 2 Finale! Thank God they nailed that 👍

@Berndr 9 месяцев назад

I thought this episode was the best so far and totally exceeded my expectations... I thought it was going to be paced too fast and overdramatic in a bad way ... but actually, it was great ... few things I did not like were so minor that are even not worth mentioning ... I loved ending with introducing another forsaken .... the scene with Moghedien was amazing!

@KnittyElf 9 месяцев назад

Really? I felt this was better than season one but one of the worst episodes of season two. The writing felt so rushed and even cheesy at times. I loved the episode where Egwene became a damane and was hoping to end the season on a high note, but it was a HUGE miss for me. :( edited to add: I agree about the scene with Moghedien. That was really good! It was one of the few things I liked about this awful episode.

@tj817 9 месяцев назад

Okay I just finished the finale and as a non book reader- just started the first book- it was great! I loved Egwene freeing herself and showing so much power. I hated whatever block Nyaneve has. It is frustrating I hated seeing Hopper die. I have no clue what a flicker flicker means until you explained it. I was pleased with Moiraine really tapping into such power and channeling from such a distance. I do think it was funny at how far away she dropped them off! Lancear is just great. I am currently rewatching season one as I am reading the first book and I actually like some of the changes they made in that first episode

@JSJay9 9 месяцев назад

New Subscriber! - I completely agree with your analysis on almost every point. You verbalized the "disappointed in what was missing, not with what was shown" - that is exactly how I feel. I want Matt to be more heroic, and I hope he transitions the same way that Perrin began to for this season. Best moment - Moraine and Lan bonding really fit with the intimacy of the bond. Quite a few "One-Power" power oddities: Ishmael being thwarted by Egwene, Moraine overly powerful from a distance, relatively weak Sanchean channelers, Rand far too experienced with the "Indian Jones" moment... I hope they line the "power" levels up better going forward.

@vananderson8400 9 месяцев назад

Great review and love the passion. I'm glad I haven't read the books because I thought the finale was incredible. For me, reading fantasy books afterward is always great entertainment while waiting for another season.

@surgetheband 9 месяцев назад

Great episode! I was also a big fan of pretty much every change they made from this books this episode

@stephaniespain9849 9 месяцев назад

I loved everything about it!! This season is so much better.

@astridyu6682 9 месяцев назад

I really appreciate how you genuinely respect the two entities as they are both works of art. Like, I haven't read the books yet and there's often a lot of adaptation hate. you genuinely critique each as their own respective tellings of this beautiful story. Such great analysis of writing, character logic, cinematography, and editing! Can't wait to see your future analyses!

@patriciamiller1523 9 месяцев назад

I loved Mat's arc finally! Rand's take down of Turac reminded me of Indiana Jones when he just shot the bad guy after much posturing ! The fact that they all just go poof with on blast. Cried so much over restoring the bond and Hopper dying

@milodebruin4821 9 месяцев назад

I thought the same thing... loved it

@thebreifcaseman269 9 месяцев назад

You stole this off another video..

@Saerwen_Celeste 9 месяцев назад

I thought Rand controlling so many weaves at one time to pop all the Seanchan and Turok was a little out of his depths.... but i guess it's ok, rules for channeling are loosey goosey in the show. I mean Egwene put up a forceshield to protect from Ishy, that was the only thing I really shook my head at and said "Ok well that's just stupid".

@patriciamiller1523 9 месяцев назад

I hadn't watched the video yet and when I did, I heard you say that it reminded you of Indiana Jones too! Was certainly that vibe. But upon reflection, I think it also reminded me of Rand last season practicing with his bow in episode 8. Rand is not a good swordsman. But he is an excellent archer. I re watched the scene and it looks like he used the one power as a flight of arrows which all hit the others dead on. And they all drop

@charleshills1408 9 месяцев назад

@@patriciamiller1523 the irony is in the books, by this time, Rand IS a good swordsman. But he's also spent an entire book training with Lan and learning it.

@alinanghel875 9 месяцев назад

Love this review! Thank you for doing this!

@suburbanhermit7 9 месяцев назад

The battle of Falme was incredible. It's the one time that the fast jumping of perspectives didn't bother me so much. I LOVED Moghedian! It was not at all how I imagined her, but she was so incredibly sinister and had the spider aspect down. Finally, Moiraine channeling on the beach was beautiful, powerful, and brilliant. Seeing her and Lan working together again, the complexity of her weaves, and the way it was shot were all perfect. I'm very hopeful that this momentum will continue into season 3, and the quality will continue.

@sdarms111doug9 9 месяцев назад

I'll only say one thing... it should have been a two-parter... I want more!

@SkolesakeniKrdsherad-ne7ln 9 месяцев назад

Agree...! WHY they insist on giving them only 8 episodes a season is terrible sense of business! I think this series could easily rival GoT if given the chance. But it simply can't be done with eight 1 hour episodes

@wotoholicaussie5086 9 месяцев назад

I'm glad your Happy - you deserve some happiness in your life - great stuff Lauren - thank you

@QuinntinBuss-hu2hq 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for another amazing video! I get that same book reader anxiety while watching the show and yup I was sad too when I saw the run time and then the opener. Especially because it wasn’t anything different, I would have been ok if they had given us a new one. Anyway just want to say I don’t think it’s an algorithm making your channel grow, it’s you. Take your time on videos. Got a ways to go until next season and we’ll all still be here to listen!

@siriusb22 9 месяцев назад

This season has been a major improvement on season 1. Im not as worried about the story changes as i was before. They made some bold choices but man they nailed the character beats. The pathos when matt blew the horn was beautiful. Knowing with proof he wasn't bad. Perryns transformation was handled so well also. Im so glad egwene freed herself. I will also say her hero moment with the shield was perfect. She wasn't going toe to toe with ishy but it still showed her strength in a sensible way that was right in her wheelhouse. The only thing that bugged me was the fast and lose way they have every aes sedai being a prodigious healer. It cheapens the talent. I loved this episode though. 8 forsaken is enough for tv.

@user-qx4ip8tv8i 9 месяцев назад

What I want to know: what happened to Ryma?? I was hoping we were going to see her again...

@robertford5614 9 месяцев назад

You do my favorite breakdowns of the Wheel of Time series, Loren. Thanks for your passion and hard work!

@wednesdaylysol5319 9 месяцев назад

Always love how positive you are without ignoring the shows flaws. I just got into reading the books (mostly, hell, chiefly from this channel) and I can see both sides. Too many people are sleeping on this show though! It’s a great example of an adaption like you said. Can’t wait for the unraveled episodes!

@kevinlstephenson6759 9 месяцев назад

The heron has been on the handle of Rands sword all of Season 2, You have to look close but it can be seen.

@thetwistable 9 месяцев назад

ah going to have to go back and rewatch then!! they missed it in season 1 and i feel like it should have been a couple of comments as they walk into an Inn for example...just to point it out to the viewers, season 1 though had alot to work through

@ArchlordZer0 9 месяцев назад

What kind of idiot grabs the blade, though? That's literally why there's a handle on the sword....

@hammerhiem75 9 месяцев назад

@@ArchlordZer0 That's how you actually do it in RL.... the top of teh blade isn't sharp, You push with the right hand above the guard, and guide with the left gripping the blade from above.

@ArchlordZer0 9 месяцев назад

@@hammerhiem75 Go rewatch the episode. Rand had a death grip on the sharp part of the blade. I've trained with a katana (professionally). I've never heard or seen anyone do anything like that.

@jamess.2491 9 месяцев назад

I'm actually hoping we do see Lanfear helping the heroes (or at least Rand) in the future, she was definitely the best character this season in my opinion. I'm not an Egwene fan tho so I can see those who are really liking her arc.

@zv8381 9 месяцев назад

Is it wrong that I like her? 😅