Lots of good information on this video. I bought one of these a long time ago but the arrangement of one of the included valve was such that it wouldn't work properly and I never used it. Will try upgrading the valves and see if that helps. One suggestion if you don't mind....check your audio. I had to turn the volume up full in order to hear your narration but when the music started, it shook the pictures off the wall!!! Thanks again
Thanks for the info. I have a new one that I will modify. The existing parts suck. What grit and type media were you using and what size tip? Compressor size? Thanks again
First time on your channel. Really impressive. Most impressed with how you reply to questions. I'm new to all of this. Here's my dumb question... Did you replace/uograde with same size components (to get better quality) or did you increase the size of them, as well? What size components after the upgrade and what size hoses? Looking forward to watching more of your videos. Thanks so much!
Thanks for watching! I replaced the ball valves with one size up to 1/2” and the necessary fittings to adapt them. I did this do better quality and to be able ti clear clogs easier if and when needed with the bigger valve. Sometimes larger pieces of media make it into a new bag from the manufacturer so this helps with that. I also put quick connect fittings on the air hose that T’s off from the main supply down to the media valve to be able to remove the bottom assembly easier if there’s a major clog (I’ve managed to get silicon plugs in my blast pot from recycling my media out of my cabinet without sifting it before refilling) The blast hose I added is the same size ID but it is a better quality hose that lasts longer and is more flexible making it easier to handle.
Great video, I learned a few things. One thing none of the videos I have watched explain exactly how they are controlling the flow through the system. HF instructions say the abrasive valve and trigger valve should always be either full open or closed, otherwise you blow a hole in the side of the valve. Are you only controlling the flow with the throttle valve? I seem to get way too much media in the beginning and I can empty my 40 lb pot rather fast. I have been using the abrasive valve to try and control that which isn't right but I can't seem to get the right mix for very long. Am I just using too much pressure? Where is your throttle valve when things are working well for you? 25%, 50% 75%, 100% ? I'd appreciate any advise. Thanks
So the air supply valve on the back of the tank is always wide open and same with the valve at the nozzle when in use. You’ll only only want to have the nozzle valve all the way open or closed or it will wear through quickly. The media valve on the bottom of the tank is where I control the media and haven’t had any issues with wearing on that valve. I typically have that one open to probably 20-30% when I’m blasting in my cabinet at around 50psi I will have it open a little more when open air blasting at around 90psi
Perfect timing I just got my 110lb pot from harbor freight today! Was already thinking about doing the ameriblaster kit. How does that kit compare to the mods you did to it in this video? Also what media do you use and how much cfm is your compressor putting out?
I’ve never used an ameriblaster kit but I haven’t had any issues yet using this set up. I prefer the blast nozzle I’m using over his since it seems to be a lot shorter which helps out a lot in the cabinet. The ball valves I’m using are only $10 so I don’t mind replacing them when I have to which isn’t very often. I’m using a Quincy qt54 which puts out about 15cfm and green diamond 30/60 for media.
Just gave his site a quick look over. His lower manifold seems like a decent bolt on set up but my main reason to swapping everything was to have a full 1/2” from bottom of the tank to the nozzle and to ditch the lower 3/8 ball valve. And he may sell a custom hose length but I’d recommend 10’. That extra 2’ made a big difference with the things I blast. Definitely trash the hose it came with and replace it with a quality one asap. They are a lot more flexible and easier to work with.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating appreciate it! I will be trying out this mod you did and see how this works out for me as it will probably be way cheaper than that ameriblaster kit. I will also be buying that nozzle you’re running. Where did you get your hose? I wish they sold green diamond media in my area but they don’t!
@@perknowitzki7158 awesome, I think you’ll be happy with it! I don’t regret doing it to mine. sandblaster-parts.com/blogs/product-information/tagged/sandblaster-parts Here’s the link to the site but it’s not letting me search products for some reason. May have to call and order now but I paid $34 for a 10’ piece of 1/2” ID x 15/16” OD about a year ago. Seems to be a good hose for the money. Been running it for a good amount of time and haven’t had any blow outs yet.
Hey I just got my blast pot going, with all the upgrades accept I’m using the gun/hose that comes with it but I still am having clogging issues. I am going to order the gun you recommended, but what hose are you running?
Are you using clean media or seeing any moisture in your air lines? I don’t remember where the hose came from it’s been a few years now since I ordered it.
Thanks for sharing this. How much CFM is you compressor pumping out and are you using the 1/8" nozzle that your link points to? What media and grit size do you use? Sorry about all the questions, but you seem to have a good system. Thanks for another informative video!
Yes I use the 1/8 nozzle. Compressor is right at 15cfm. It’s a Quincy qt54. Has no issues keeping up with the 1/8 nozzle. Actually shuts off for a good amount of time while continuous blasting on 3/8 air hose. I either need a shorter run from my compressor or bigger diameter or a combo of both. But no issues with it keeping up with the 1/8 nozzle.
Other than the audio on the non-pov shots, this is an excellent explanation. Did you ever come up with a cost breakdown for all the fittings? 👌Nice work.
I purchased a mic to try to solve the audio issues but it wasn’t all that great. I do a couple sound test and edit them out to kind of get the mic adjusted on the iPhone until I can get a better mic. I never added it up but to do everything included the 3/8s couplers (that you don’t have to do) I think was roughly $80. It’s been worth it in my opinion.
The wheels are off of a wagon I got from harbor freight. I misplaced the receipt with the fitting sizes. But you’ll just need to find the sizes of the existing parts and threaded hole in the bottom and you can get all the fittings you need to make it work.
How long cam you blast between refill? I got the smaller 40lb and I feel like by the time I got it dialed in im out-of media lol. 110 is on sale at Canadian Harbour freight princess auto so thinking about upgrading
Im having some problems with my blast pot and haven’t gotten a use out of it yet. Im running black diamond media and my gun is getting clogged, what size should I upgrade the blast gun to?
I use this blast nozzle with a 1/8” tip. amzn.to/3PptGWU You could also try to sift your media before putting it into the tank if you’re finding large pieces.
30/60 green diamond. Feed air is 90 psi and regulator was probably set around 60 psi. I’ll make a shop video soon and cover it, but I just drilled a hole through the cabinet and ran the blast hose through with a grommet to protect the hose.
My blast set up doesn’t seem to touch powder it is a bottom feed set up would a pressure pot solve my issues it got rid of the gloss so I thought i would try coating over it but my Eastwood dual voltage wasn’t getting full coverage would the rc1 make that an non issue or is it important to get the the part bare again I am using hf aluminum oxide if that info helps I plan on getting the rc1 soon anyways but I don’t know if I should get a decent stripper first
Unless you have a large compressor and blast pot, most beginner blasting setups aren’t going to do much to powder. Mine will take it off but it’s slow and not worth it. I would recommend getting a chemical stripper to get the part down to bare metal before recoating. The RC-1 will definitely help with multiple coats but I suggest taking the old coating off first.
These modifications supply more than enough media for my 15cfm air supply. That would be helpful to clear potential clogs. (I've managed to get small powder coat plugs in my tank from recycling media in my blast cabinet)
@@royalcoatspowdercoating Im lucky have 60cfm looking to upgrade my pressure tank and has deadman straight gun on it but blocks up at bottom outlet,pain in the ass to clear as you know, been using syphon gun out of bucket works ok for a while.
Correct. Media goes to the bottom of the cabinet. Then I just drain and refill the blast pot. The refill down time is significantly less than the blasting time with the siphon fed systems that come in the cabinets.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I think I will add the blaster to the bottom of my cabinet connected with 2" valve. Then I could open the valve to refill from the cabinet. Works great in my head, LOL
Hey, got mine connected. Works great. But the dust ic crazy thick. I have the harbor freight dust collector on the back of the cabinet. Dust was not an issue befor with the cabinet. You have any issue with dust?
I use this pot for my cabinet and for open air blasting. I left my siphon feed gun in the cabinet when I made the switch thinking I would still use it from time to time but I haven’t touched it since I made the switch. Definitely worth the purchase considering how much time is saved blasting.
@@dieselwilson9767 I drilled a hole in the cabinet next to the original hole for the air line from the foot petal to the siphon feed gun and put a grommet in. The original set up has a small gap between the air line and grommet also so this is no different.
I’d suggest a minimum 60 gal tank and 10+ cfm compressor. More is always better though. There is a short clip of it running on a small 8 gal air compressor in this video Cost To Start Powder Coating ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6MaYiSlAjhg.html
So I bought this tank to blast peeling paint from ceader shake siding. I am using walnuts. I started with 12 grit, and right of the bat it clogged. Then I went to 24 grit, and that came out for a few seconds then clogged. I’m at 125psi and a 5.1 cfm with a 200 gallon tank. Is there a specific tip I should upgrade to?
@@royalcoatspowdercoating thank you, will be ordering one today. Do you have a video on how you typically set up your tank? As far as valves etc where you typically do your adjustments?
The biggest "Hack" with these is your air - if you hear someone say these are rubbish, won't blast, block, use too much sand, blah blah - it's their air. These need a ton of air to work well - if your air supply is good, you don't need to change anything. If you have a 200l compressor with a 3hp motor, it won't run this. Won't. Will not. Nope... If you have a smaller compressor, it won't have a hope in hell of running this - you will be frustrated & dissapointed, the results will be rubbish, it will devour a world of blast media for crap results & you WILL curse it as a P.O.S.. These need wide-open hoses - 1/2" I.D minimum. These need dry air - very dry air. A wall-mounted $30 "air dryer" won't cut the mustard. You need to build a condensor loop - YT shows how. That will give bone-dry air. As a rough guide, you're going to need 400l of air-storage at 100 psi for that ^ to work properly. I've done it both ways for a living, this isn't "Imagination" or some-such. 200l additional storage is edge-iffy-minimum if you're running a 3hp 200l "home" compressor - this ^ will still tear the backside out of that 3hp compressor trying to keep up. Upside, the blaster will suddenly amaze you - no clogs (none) - you'll use 1/10 of the sand you were using - paint & rust will vanish at a speed you could never have imagined. You will suddenly regard this ^^ as one of your favorite tools. If you fix your air. Loads. Then some more. Another Upside - by fixing your air, all your other air-tools will also suddenly transform into what you thought they would be when you bought them - you will start enjoying using them instead of wondering wtf is wrong with this P.O.S now?? It's the air. More. More is gooder.
At minimum what would you recommend for an air compressor for this blaster. I already know that a 125psi - 2hp - 8gal is not enough for the glass bead I am using with this system for pool tile cleaning. It won't push anything through the hose/tool.
@@jackbaker4133 I blast a lot - my set up is a 3hp 220v 200l compressor feeding its own tank & a second 200l tank off the old compressor I had that died. So 400l storage, a cooling loop (just 1/2" qualpex run up & down a wall with drains on the bottoms of the loops (for water) plus high-flow airlines. Runs the blaster no problem, but the compressor is working hard - I'm ok with that, it's what I got it to do -work. The 400l storage is key, otherwise you just don't have enough air in the system & the blaster will work rubbish. Mine works great off this system & gets an awful lot of use for what is a "DIY" set-up really. Hope that helps.
What air pressure are you running in? I did all the upgrades and it still seems to clog. I did see the guy that put a sander on it to vibrate it. Do you have problems with it clogging
Typically 40-60psi. Two main things will cause clogs, moisture and large pieces of media that made there way into the bag or debris in recycled media. If mine clogs it is due to the recycled media or a piece too large from the bag. Are you using any filtration in your air lines?
I spent about $70 on the hose a believe. It was a long time ago and I don’t remember the site for it. I spent about $50 on fittings and new air line on the pot. The wheels and pipe to raise it up was something I had around the shop. The nozzle was $50. I use the 1/8” nozzle. Here is the link amzn.to/3KbCwDP
How exciting. Watching someone tape wrap a myraid of fittings rather than preinstalling and describing the process. Not much faith in those watching the videos, and it's a negative from an entertainment perspective. Had to you fast forward altogether too much to get through this video.